Post No. 11,359
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Part Ten
(I wrote about Big Bang and Big Crunch theories in Tamil Sangam Literature yesterday. Please see five more of my articles on the same subject. Links are given at the end of this article)
The concept of Five Elements (பஞ்சபூதம்) is found in the oldest part of Pura Nanuru (naanuuru). The poem was composed by Tamil Poet Mr Nagarajan ( in Tamil Mudi Naaga raayar). He must be a great Sanskrit scholar. He not only mentioned the Four Vedas and Three Fires of Brahmins (Agavaniyam, Gargapatyam and Dakshinagniyam) but also translated the Kumarasambhava Sloka of Kalidasa which described the Himalayas and the saints . This proved Kalidasa lived before Sangam age. Sangam Tamil poets used 200 images of Kalidasa. Pancha bhuta was also copied from Taitriya Upanishad (see the link below for my year 2014 article)
Comparing the grandeur or the force of Five Elements Air, Sky, Earth, Water and Fire with the king’s power is found throughout Sanskrit literature. They were older than Sangam Tamil poems of First to Third Century CE.
Mr Nagarajan in Puram verse 2 sings about the glory of Chera/Kerala King Uthiyan Cheralathan. He was also praised as one “who provided BIG food” for the Pandavas and Kauravas (lot of people took it for actual feeding. But the word Big Food (Perunchoru பெருஞ்சோறு in Tamil) means big feast given in memory of the dead. This is proved by the usage of the word in other poems. The same poet describes a beautiful scene in Kanyakumari which was ruled by the Cheras at that time. One can see the Sun Rise and Sun Set from Kanyakumari. Even today tourists rush to that town in Tamil Nadu to see both as well as Sunset and Moonrise on Purnima days. In short poem 2 of Puram gives lot of rare information. I Have used it for my linguistic research as well. The slow J=Y change around the world shows the Hindu migration to different parts of the world (see my article on J=Y change for full details)
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More Pancha Bhuta references:
Pari. 3-4; 3-66; 3-77. Pari.13-18; 24-15
Mathur. -line 453; Puram-2- 1; 20-1; 51-1;55-15
Pathitr- 14-1; Kurun.3-1.
Tol -305; Murukku. Line 254
The strange coincidence is, all the poets use the Pancha Bhuta matter in the very beginning of the poems.
Post Sangam book – Tiruk Kural 271
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Tamil Discoveries
Ancient Tamils were far advanced in science; Like Sanskrit poets, they described the earth as round, globular, circular throughout Sangam poems. Like Sanskrit poets they always described ‘Earth wearing sea as clothe’ (sea clad) meaning that three fourths of earth is surrounded by water (I have already written about it. So, I am not going to repeat it).
There are two remarkable poems here:
Pura Nanuru (naanuuru) verse 20 by Kurmkoziyur Kizar (kilaar).
He used an epithet for sky meaning space without air; vacuum.
So Hindus knew that beyond the atmospheric layer of earth the space is vacuum without air. The words used in Tamil வறிது நிலை இய காயம் Varithu nilai iya kaayam. Later he talks about Bird omens; he also used one Sanskrit phrase Land Eating. Sanskrit poets described Kings as Bhubuk=Eaters of Land. That means they capture other lands.
The second point is What happened after the Big Bang? is in Pari. 13-18/23
The order is repeated by several poets : Space- Wind/star dust-Fire- water- land; in the Big Crunch it disappears in reverse order
Land devoured by water—Badavagni/Horse shaped fire/Vadamuka Agni spreads everywhere—stormy wind blows—everything disappears into Space- that which happens in Black Hole.
If you study Uuzi part (end of the world/Armageddon) posted yesterday and this Pancha Bhuta part, you will easily understand Big Bang, Big Crunch, Black hole knowledge of Tamil Hindus.
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Tamil Reference:
இதோ புறநானூற்றுப் பாடல் 2
மண் திணிந்த நிலனும்
நிலம் ஏந்திய விசும்பும்
விசும்பு தைவரு வளியும்
வளித்தலைஇய தீயும்
தீ முரணிய நீரும், என்றாங்கு
ஐம்பெரும் பூதத்து இயற்கை போலப்
போற்றார்ப் பொறுத்தலும், சூழ்ச்சியது அகலமும்
வலியும், தெறலும், அளியும் உடையோய்
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குறுங்கோழியூர் கிழாரும் :
பிறர் மண் உண்ணும் செம்மல்; நின் நாட்டு
வயறு மகளிர் வேட்டு உணின் அல்லது
பகைவர் உண்ணா அரு மண்ணினையே
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ஒன்றனில் போற்றிய விசும்பும் நீயே; 18 space
இரண்டின் உணரும் வளியும் நீயே; wind/star dust
மூன்றின் உணரும் தீயும் நீயே; fire
நான்கின் உணரும் நீரும் நீயே; water
ஐந்துடன் முற்றிய நிலனும் நீயே: land/earth
அதனால், நின் மருங்கின்று மூ ஏழ் உலகமும் 23
Who discovered Five Elements/Pancha Bhuta?
https://tamilandvedas.com › who-disc…
24 Dec 2014 — The concept of Five Elements, known as Pancha Bhuta in Indian languages, is found in Greek and Babylonian cultures.
Creation: Vedic Hymn and Babylonian Hymn – Tamil and Vedas
https://tamilandvedas.com › 2013/08/06 › creation-vedi…
6 Aug 2013 — (Translation by Wendy Doniger O’Flaherty. From the Book “The Rig Veda – Anthology” ). Hundreds of people have translated this hymn and commented …
creation in the Veda | Tamil and Vedas
https://tamilandvedas.com › tag › creation-in-the-veda
22 Sept 2017 — Creation Hymn: Nasadiya Sukta. The following remarkable passage from the Rig Veda (10-129) describes the creation of the universe.
பஞ்சபூதங்களைக் கண்டுபிடித்தது யார்?
https://tamilandvedas.com › பஞ்ச…
25 Dec 2014 — Research paper written by London Swaminathan Research article No.1515; Dated 25 December 2014. நிலம், நீர், தீ, வளி …
Feet are ruled by Brahma, Heart is ruled by Rudra (Post No.3511) Posed on 3 January 2017
Big Bang in the Rig Veda! (Post No.4235) 22September 2017
BIG BANG AND BIG CRUNCH IN KAMBA RAMAYANA (Post No.5307) Posted on 10 August 2017
To be continued………………….
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