You can tell Lies in Five Places:Mahabharata

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Written  by London swaminathan

Post No.2257

Date: 19 October 2015

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SINLESS UNTRUTH

Earlier I wrote about the views of the greatest philosopher Adi Shnakara and the Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar on lying. Both Shankara and Valluvar allow us to tell lies under certain circumstances (See at the bottom of this article.)

Na narmayuktam vachanam hinasti na strishu raajan na vivaahakaale

Praanaatyayee sarvadhanaapahaare panchaanrutaanyaahurapaatakaani

–Mahabharata (Adi Parva) 82-16

It is said that if you tell lies under the following five circumstances, it is not considered a sin:

Strii: You can tell a lie to women

Narmayukti: As jokes

Vivaahakaala: During marriage (to bring a boy and a girl together)

Praanaatyaya: When your life is threatened

Dhanaapahaara: Loss of wealth.

Vyasa wrote Mahabharata in the beginning of Kaliyuga; he knew that lies can’t be avoided completely. But the end justifies the means. So if anything leads to a good end or a beneficial effect, then lying is justified.

Some simple examples:

A husband tells a small lie to his wife when he overpaid for the thing he got it for his wife such as flowers or sarees or gold ornaments. Men are not as shrewd as women in bargaining.

A lot of us crack jokes with children, women and friends and naturally we tell them lies to see the suspense or disappointment in their faces. We, in western countries, tell lot of lies to our children about Santa Claus bringing all the Christmas gifts through the chimney.

To bring a boy and girl together, a lot of lies are told. In Tamil there is a proverb that says ‘you can tell 1000 lies for a marriage to happen’. The boy is told that the girl looks like a film actress. When he sees her he realises that it is not true. Then all extra information is fed: though she is not that beautiful you will not get such a girl because she sings like koel (cuckoo) and cooks like Nala or Bhima (which is also not true). The girl is also told that the boy is like Manmatha (Cupid) and he earns a big fat salary, which may not be true.

To save one’s life, lying is allowed. If a robber is chasing a good man and he hides in our house, naturally we will tell him a lie to save the good man.

If someone tries to rob you off everything and your family will be ruined because of that, you can tell a lie to save whatever money you can save.

satyameva

Following is my article posted in 2014

When can you tell a lie? Adi Shankara’s Advice

By London Swaminathan
Post No. 838 Date. 13-02-2014

Tamil poet Thiruvalluvar and India’s greatest philosopher Adi Shankara give us guidelines about lying. Both of them allow us to tell lies if they can bring immense good. We have some anecdotes in Mahabharata where in there was a dilemma to tell the truth or not.

We are taught by the Vedas ‘satyam vatha’=speak the truth. That is the first command. The emblem of Government of India and the Government of Tamil Nadu has the Upanishad dictate ‘Satyameve Jayate’= truth alone triumphs. There is no contradiction in it when we say we are allowed to tell lies for the good of the humanity. Bhagavad Gita and other Hindu scriptures lists Honesty and Truth as very important qualities.

Upanishads has a beautiful story about a boy named ‘Truth Seeker’ =Satyakaman. When he came to Gautama for learning the Vedas he asked his caste and clan. He said that his mother’s name was Jabala. He asked him to go back to his mum to find the name of his father. She plainly told him that she did not know it. He went straight to Gautama and told what his mum said to him. Immediately he accepted him as a student saying this was the quality of a Brahmana. The meaning is whoever speaks truth, he is a Brahmana.

In spite of these high moral standards, Shankara and Valluvar allow us to tell a lie if it can do some good. In Tamil, there is a proverb that ‘one can do a marriage by telling one thousand lies’. We can easily read between the lines. Uniting two people in marriage is a good thing. So ignore minor things. Very often they ask ‘Is the boy handsome? The answer we get is ‘Yes he is very handsome’ Is the girl beautiful? Yes the girl is very beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beauty in body is different form beauty in behaviour. So what they say is true.

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Story of Kausika

Sometimes truth may be worse than a lie. There is a beautiful story in the greatest and the longest epic in the world Mahabaharata. Kaushika was a Brahmana who made a vow of always speaking the truth. One day robbers were chasing a group of travellers in the forest. When they passed by Kaushika, he also noticed them. The robbers came to Kaushika and asked him whether he had seen the travellers. He told them where the travellers were hiding. The robbers went there, tortured and robbed the travellers. Kaushika had to go to hell for speaking the truth.

That is why Valluvar puts a sub clause when he said ‘yes, lying is allowed’:
Even untruth might attain the value of truth, if it is productive of UNMIXED GOOD, without the least blemish (Tirukkural 392)

Valluvar probably knew the story of Kaushika in Mahabharata. So he makes it clear in one of the verses:
“If one’s speech does not wrong any living creature, while being factually correct, that is truthfulness (Kural 291)”

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Shankara’s View

Adi Shankara in the Prasna Uttara Ratna Malika (Gem Garland of Questions and Answers) hymn says
There are 67 verses in question and answer format. In the 46th verse he puts one question ‘Who is not to be trusted?’ The answer is ‘one who as a rule utters lies’.
In the next verse (47), one of the questions is ‘on what occasions even a lie is sinless?’ ‘That which is uttered for the sake of protecting righteousness (Dharma)’.
One should not harm anyone while telling a truth and one can tell a lie if it can bring some good to someone.

Plato’s View

SM Diaz in his commentary on Tirukkural adds:
“The eminent Greek philosopher Plato, of a date prior to Thiruvalluvar , has discussed in his Republic, the concept of the Noble Lie, which statesmen may use under certain circumstances as an instrument of state-craft or education. G.C.Field who discusses this matter in his book entitled The Philosophy of Plato quotes as example, Mr Churchill’s ‘ terminological inexactitudes’, used during World War II, as a means of deceiving the enemy, in the national interest.”
“ In the Mahabharata, Dharmaputra’s true statement, drowned in noise and made to appear false, in order to produce a certain good result, was also considered to come under this category. In Tamil Nadu the proverb that Even a thousand lies would be worthwhile to bring about a marriage, is based on the same principle of Plato’s Noble Lie.”

“Shakespeare projected an allied thought when he wrote,
If I do lie and do

No harm by it, though the Gods hear, I hope they will pardon it.
But this does not satisfy Valluvar’s acid test. Only truth should be accompanied by harmlessness; untruth should be productive of positive good to qualify for being classed with truth. Untruth which is just harmless may be fun but not truth.”

Aswaththama Hatha: Narova Kunjarova: (Aswaththama dead; whether man or elephant)
Krishna had arranged to have an elephant named Aswatthma sacrificed in the battle. Yudhistra confirmed that Aswatthma had been killed adding in a lower tone Aswaththama ‘the elephant’ or man which had been killed. This news shattered Aswatthma ‘s father Drona who threw down his arms in despair. Un armed Drona was killed by Dhristadymna . Like story of Kausika, this is also from the Mahabharata.

(In Indian coins and stamps, the National Emblem with the words TRUTH ALOE TRIUMPHS + Satyameva Jayate is is inscribed)

–Subham–

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