TAMIL POET EXPLODES DRAVIDIAN MYTH! (Post No.5275)

Written by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

Date: 31 JULY 2018

 

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Post No. 5275

 

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Famous Tamil poet Kamban in his epic work Kamba Ramayana explodes several Dravidian myths; Dravidian politicians and half- baked Dravidian ‘scholars’ are fooling the Tamil community for long by projecting the womaniser Ravana as a Dravidian. They say Aryan Rama killed Dravidian Ravana; They even celebrate Ravana Jayanti on Rama Navami day or Desersa Festival. But according to the famous poet Kamban, who wrote Ramayana in Tamil, Ravana was a Brahmin!

My mum wants Rama’s Skull for Tarpana!

Here is the proof from Tamil verses of Kamban:-

When Ravana lost his important commanders in the battle against Rama, Karan’s son came forward and said to Ravana:

“How is it my father (Ravana), you didn’t send me

Against who killed my father (Karan)?

Did you not know I am available

Alas, that you should have that sorrow!”

 

“My tearful mother, plunged in sorrow

Will not part with her wedding-string

Before offering obsequies to her husband

In the skull of the one who killed him!

You whom the vultures love as their feeder

Be pleased, said he, to send me to the fight.”

 

Wedding string= Mangala sutra, Thaali in Tamil.

The message is clear: Demons also do Tarpana and Tithi to the departed soul. So Karan’s wife was waiting to do using Rama’s skull as a vessel!

 

In another place, when Vibhishana asked his brother Kumbakarna to come to Rama’s side, he refused to join Rama’s army because he did eat Ravana’s food all through his life and he did not want to see Ravana dying before his eyes.  He added, “My dear brother Vibhishana! You continue to be in Rama’s side, so that you can do Tarpana (water offering to departed soul) to all your brothers including me”.

So they all believed in the funeral tites like other Hindus.

Rama encourages Karan’s son to fight him saying,

 

“The hero (rama) heard what the sinner (karan’s son) said

Are you Khara’s son come here

To avenge your long-standing grievance?

That indeed is a son’s duty

You spoke well, Sir”, he said,

His shoulders well fitted for fame”

–Yuddha Kanda, Kamba Ramayana

Here also Rama  appreciates son’s duty to demon Khara.

Here is another proof:

“Such is the strength of these men.

I will tell you now what I know of Ravana

He is the son of the son of Brahma

And raised himself through penance

By the boons he obtained from Brahma and Siva”

 

-Yuddha Kanda

 

Kamban repeats three facts in hundreds of places:

  1. Ravana is Brahma’s grandson, thus emphasizing that he is a Brahmana.

This is confirmed in several Tamil sthala puranas, where Rama was said to have got rid of his sins of killing Brahmins (Ravana and his son’s).

 

  1. Ravana and his son Indrajit got all the powers from Hindu gods through penance!

 

  1. They all did water obsequies to the departed souls like any other Hindu.

All these explode the Dravidian propaganda about Ravana.

 

Kamban lived 1000 years before our time. What Kamban said was  already said by Valmiki and others.

One more verse from the chapter of ‘Vibhishana takes refuge’ in Yuddha Kanda:

“The son of Brahma’s grandson

A good soul, truthful and virtuous,

has come here to take refuge

With the scion of solar race

The Lord of the world, and so live:

 

This is about Ravana’s brother Vibhishana.

 

Any one reading Kamba Ramayana or other scriptures will find umpteen references to Ravana and his brothers as Brahmins.

Then how come they are called demons?

They did not follow a disciplined life and more over violated all the rules laid for Brahmins. They got all the benefits and powers of penance, but abused them!

Even today we see people who abuse religious powers even when they are at the top posts.

 

–Subham–

 

 

 

WORLD’S FIRST EXILE GOVERNMENT FROM RAMAYANA (Post No.5272)

 

A FEW SCENES FROM RAMAYANA DRAMA

Written by London swaminathan

Date: 30 JULY 2018

 

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Post No. 5272

 

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Though there are thousands of Ramayanas in South East Asia South Asia, some in full and some are in parts, some are in poetry and some are skits, dreams or prose, Kamaba Ramayana in Tamil stands next to Valmiki Ramayana in Sanskrit.

Kamban himself said that he followed Valmiki. But yet we see some new episodes or new interpretations in Kamaban. We might have missed the originals in Valmiki or Kamaban might have used them from the other two Ramayanas he mentioned in the very beginning. But he named only one author Valmiki.

 

In the Yuddha Kanada of Kamba Ramayana we see some important verses which reflect the Indian thinking.

When Rama met Guha, a forest chieftain, the head of the hunters. he declared him as his fifth among the Ayodhya brothers, and he mentioned Sugreeva as the sixth and Vibhishana as the seventh. This is the spirit of Universal Brotherhood. Others only spoke about in all other literatures and scriptures of the world But Rama was the only one who took concrete steps in this direction.

 

The Yuddha kanda highlights another point; Rama is the oldest king we know of who formed an exile government in India. After Vibhisana’s surrender, he declared him the King of Sri Lanka and asked Sugreeva and Lakshmana to crown him on the spot.

 

Following verses are from the mouth of great Tamil poet Kamban (translated by P S Sundaram, published by Government of Tamil Nadu):

SIX BROTHERS OF RAMA!!!

We are Seven Now!

“we became” said, Rama “five with Guha;

Then with Sun’s son bcame six;

Now with you who have joined us

With your heartfelt love, we are seven!

Your father sending me to the forest

Has multiplied his progeny!

–Yuddha Kanada, Chapter- Vibhishana Takes Refuge.

 

In one breath Rama made Vibhishana as his own brother and reconfirmed it by saying Dasaratha  – aslo Vibhishana’s father?

Sun’s son= Sugreeva

 

xxx

In the earlier verses, Kamban described the Exile Government:

Grace flowing from him, he looked

At Vibhishana and said to his joy,

“so long as the fourteen worlds

And my name shall endure

This Lanka in the sea with all

Its Rakshasas is yours—“

 

SHOE CROWN

What is there to say my Lord?

You have taken me, a cur, as a brother

Myservitude has made me great”.

And all his doubts and fears removed

He crowned himself with Rama’s shoes.

 

Rama’s Command

 

“The Rama told Lakshmana

Prince, that all may realise

That the wealth of Lanka’s King

Is now Vibhishana’s

You and Sugreeva shoud take out

A procession round the army camp”

 

Then they mounted on a sandal wood chariot

The one with his infinite virtues

Crowned with Rama’s sandals

Sugreeva carrying him, and lauding,

“He has attained Indra’s wealth”

And going round that army camp.”

 

 

These verses clearly show that Rama made a quick decision to form an exile Government of Sri Lanka on Indian soil and Vibhishana only took Rama’s shows as crown.

XXX

TAMIL KING WITH SIVA’S SANDALS ON HEAD!

This is also nothing new. Seran Senguttuva, the mighty Tamil King of Kerala took, Siva’s sandals on his head according to the Tamil epic Silappadikaram!

 

First Seran Senguttuvan went to Agnihotra Sala for prayers. Then he went to Siva’s temple before his expedition to the Himalayas. He bore the feet of the Lord on his head as a mark of respect to Him. At this time the priests of the temple of Atakamatam, the local Vishnu temple, gave him the prasadam (garland of flowers) which he wore on his shoulders.

(Aataka maatama= Anatha Padmanabha Swami Temple of Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala)

 

–SUBHAM–

 

RAMAYANA IN ARTS OF ASIA BY GARRETT KAM (Post No.5166)

 

RAMAYANA IN ARTS OF ASIA BY GARRETT KAM (Post No.5166)


Written by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

 

Date: 30 JUNE 2018

 

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Post No. 5166

 

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Ramayana in the Arts of Asia is a wonderful book with lot of information with particular reference to South East Asia. Author Garrett Kam is a scholar in the art history. I have found some useful information and pictures which I have never seen in any other book on Ramayana.

 

Ramayana character names change in all languages This is very useful for researchers. With is as a guide we can figure out the names of Hindu Gods in different countries. The pictures from private collections and museums are not available in other books. The display of important points in boxes is very attractive. I am just reproducing some pages which shows the Ramayana names in different cultures. Please enlarge the pages and read.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nagapasa binds Rama and Lakshmana.

 

Everyone must buy this Encyclopaedia on Ramayana.

 

–subham–

RAMAYANA SCULPTURES IN THAILAND (Post No.5158)

 

compiled by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

 

Date: 28 JUNE 2018

 

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Post No. 5158

 

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RAMAYANA sculptures in Cambodia are well known; but sculptures describing the scenes of Ramayana in Thailand are not known to many. Some of the sculptures were even interpreted earlier as scenes from Buddha Jataka stories. Now we know they are from Ramayana.

Mostly sculptures of Hindu gods are found in the temples of Prasat Phnom Rung and Prasat Phimai. Other sculptures of Hindu Gods are kept in Bangkok Museum.

Following book (Palace of the Gods by Smithi Siribhadra and Elizabeth Moore)  give some pictures with explanation:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

— SUBHAM —

 

 

 

DATE OF RAMAYANA 5100 BCE (Post No.5100)

Written by London swaminathan

Date: 11 JUNE 2018

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Post No. 5100

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I was reading the book ‘Dating the Era of Lord Ram’ by Pushkar Bhatnagar, 2004, Rs.395

He has concluded that Rama lived around 5100 BCE on the astronomical evidence in the Valmiki Ramayana. First let me give his conclusions and then his introduction. It is a book with sixty colour star maps.  His conclusions are

 

The archaeological evidence suggesting the date of Saraswati Sindhu region sites up to 8000 BCE,

astronomical dating of some of the verses of the Rig Veda to 6500 BCE,

the Astronomical dating of Ramayana at around  5100 BCE,

date of composition of the last Mandala of the Rig Veda around 5000 BCE,

strong evidences suggesting the traditional date of 3137 BCE as the date of Mahabharata,

probable date of Puranas well after the beginning of the Kaliyuga and the drying up of the Saraswati River around 1900 BCE

makes highly agreeable and logically acceptable timeline of our civilization.

 

His introduction in the book gives the following interesting details:

“The Ramayana clearly mentions that a lunar eclipse had occurred on the day Hanuman visited Lanka in search of Sita. On examination of the sequence of events narrated in the book

(Ramayana) I had concluded that it was the full moon day of either the month of Margasirsh (Maarkazi in Tamil) or Paush (Thai in Tamil)of the last year of exile (5076 BCE). However, I had no means to verify whether a lunar eclipse had actually occurred about 7000 years or not.

 

My belief and understanding was that the software I was using  did not have the capability of  showing the occurrence of lunar eclipse. I browsed the web for any other software. These efforts bore no fruit. For almost five years I had desperately wished and prayed that somehow I could verify and demonstrate the occurrence of Lunar eclipse so that my findings become complete in all respects.

 

Since no solution could be found to this puzzle and being completely helpless in this regard, I submitted my manuscript to the publishers for publication in the month of October 2003. (He just mentioned that he could not verify the lunar eclipse in the manuscript).

After a few days, I read in the newspapers that a lunar eclipse was to occur on the morning of 9 November 2003 and it would be visible from India. Late in the evening of 8th, without any specific hope of finding a solution, intuitively I felt like examining the position of the sun and the moon during the eclipse due to occur the next day, though the software. My intention was to compare the positions of the sun and the moon during the eclipse of 9 th. However as soon as I entered the time of the occurrence of the eclipse in the software I was surprised to find that the software was displaying the occurrence of the eclipse very precisely. Without wasting a moment, I entered the date 12 September 5076 BCE. (full moon day of lunar month Margasirsh, which according to me the day Hanuman visited Lanka.

 

With a pounding heart, I started examining the position of the moon. And then came the stamp of Divine confirmation! The software demonstrated that a lunar eclipse had indeed occurred that evening – exactly at the time when it had been described in the Ramayana. I could not believe five year long hopelessness was transformed into triumph in just a matter of five minutes! “

-Pushkar Bhatnagar10 May 2004

pushkarbhatnagar@hotmail.com

This shows the author’s long and sincere research into the date of Ramayana.

–Subham–

 

304 Ramayana sculptures in two Thai temples alone! (Post No.5040)

WRITTEN by London Swaminathan 

Date: 23 May 2018

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Post No. 5040

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HINDU GODS IN THAILAND-1

Thailand has got lot of Hindu sculptures from Ganesh to Kubera. Vedic gods Indra, Yama, Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma are also found in different places. Ramayana scenes are in the panels in many temples. We see them more from the Khmer period.

 

Art in Thailand is divided  seven different periods:

Dvaravati period – 6th to 11th century CE

Srivijaya period – 8th to 13 th century

Lobpuri period – 11th to 13th century CE

Sukothai period 13th to 14th century CE

Ayuththaya period 17th to 18th century CE

Thonburi – 1767 to 1782

Bangkok  1782-  to date

It is from the Lobpuri period Rama story begins to appear. It was the period when Khmer influence spread from Cambodia.

The best Ramayana sculptures and paintings are in

1.Prasad Panom Rung temple

2.Pimai temple

3.Emerald Buddha- Wat Phra Keao

4.Wat Phra Jetubon

5.Vihata of Wat Nang Phya

 

 

During the Lobpuri period small figures of bronze Hanuman idols used as standards on top of wooden poles.

Sukhothai period provides very few Ramayana sculptures

Since the Burmese burnt down the libraries, temples etc. in 1767, a lot of sculptures were destroyed in Ayuththaya (Ayodhya) period.

In the Thonburi and Bangkok periods kings themselves were great scholars , we have very good paintings in the temple of Emerald Buddha- Wat Phra Keao.

The bas reliefs  as many as 152 in number, found in Wat Phra Jetubon, the funerary temple of the present ruling dynasty, depicts the central episodes of the Ramayana story.

The mural paintings in the Vihara of Wat Nang Phya in Phitsnulok in Nothern Thailand and the 152 marble panels give the complete story of Ramayana. Apart from these there are wooden panels depicting scenes from Ramayana.

Wat Po Vihara also has some Ramayana sculptures. The significance of these Thai sculptures is showing the unknown characters of original Valmiki Ramayana.

 

‘Ramayana is song of human heart, it has a romantic kind of charm for the people of Thailand and gives them unbounded joy and happiness even in the present times when the glory of the east is being fast shadowed by the glamour of the west’ – Sathya Vrata Shastri

 

The National Museum of Thailand in Bangkok has a couple of interesting pieces of art connected with the story of Rama. just in front of it in the open stands a majestic figure of Rama with a  bow in hand symbolising  as it does the love of Thais  for that great hero. Inside the building the most noteworthy object, among others is a wooden screen painted in gold and lacquer, a relic of the period of the first king of the present dynasty. On one side of it is depicted the scene of Indrajit  who transforms himself  into Indra and shoots arrows that turn out to be Nagas/ snakes and on the other Ravana’s death (From Sathya Vrata Shastri’s  book)

 

 

In the second part, I will give the details of the sculptures of other Hindu gods.

-to be continued

–Subham-

STRANGE STORIES ABOUT RAMA’S SONS -THAI RAMAYANA-3 (Post No.5023)

STRANGE STORIES ABOUT RAMA’S SONS KUSA AND LAVA-THAI  RAMAYANA-3 (Post No.5023)

 

WRITTEN by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 18 May 2018

 

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Post No. 5023

 

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Thai Ramayana ‘Ramakien’ differs with Valmiki Ramayana in the birth story of Kusa and Lava. They were the twin sons of Rama and Sita according to Valamiki. But ‘Ramakien’ of Thailand and Ananda Ramayana of India differ very much. It is an interesting animal story.

 

A son was born to Sita and he was named Mongkut. But her second son was created by a miracle by sage Vajmrga (Valmiki). One day Sita went into the forest to gather fruits after leaving her son Mongkut with the sage. She was enjoying nature and saw a family of monkeys. She told the monkey mothers to be careful with their babies otherwise they may fall from the trees. Monkey mothers laughed at her and said to her that they were better than Sita who left her child with the sage who closed his eyes for meditation. Sita was shocked to hear this and rushed back to the sage’s ashram and brought back her child.

 

In the meantime, sage opened his eyes after meditation and found the child was missing. Thinking that Sita would feel sad, he created another child by miracle. When Sita came back he explained what happened and advised her that the second son will be the playmate of her first son. He gave it the name Lava.

This Thai versions is somewhat similar to Ananda Ramayana:

It is in the Janmakanda section (Canto 4, verses 21-86).

Sita had only one son and he was named Kusa because sage Valmii sprinkled holy water on the baby with Kusa grass.  Rama came by Pushpaka Vimana (aeroplane) and did the birth rites with some brahmins and went back to Ayodhya by the Vimana. He told them not to reveal the news to anyone. Sita’s father Janaka also came but he stayed even after Rama left.

 

One day she went to the river to take bath and saw a monkey mother with five baby monkeys. She left her baby with the sage Valmiki. When she saw the mother monkey carrying five of its litter, she felt very guilty for not taking her baby. Sita rushed back to the hermitage of Valmiki and took her baby. At that time, Valmiki with his disciples went to the riverside. When Valmiki came back to his hermitage, he was surprised to see Sita’s son missing. So he created a double of her first son. He gave the second son to Sita and named him Lava, because he was created with Lava/wool. Both the children grew up together at the hermitage and their parents showered love and affection on them.

 

Kathasarit sagara, slightly differed from this version and said Lava was her first son and Kusa was the second son who was created by Valmiki’s miraculous power.

 

One can understand the deep impact of Ramayana  on a vast geographical area and long span of  time. Valmiki’s original version was distorted here and there in course of 2000 or 3000 years. Ramayana is in Buddhist and Jain literature as well.

 

Sita’s ‘infidelity’!

Hindus never like one woman staying with another man who is not her brother or father. So there are lot of stories about the infidelity of Sita.

 

In Thai Ramayana Adul, a demoness daughter of Surpanakha wanted to take revenge upon Rama, because his brother Lakshmana cut off Surpankaha’s nose. Adul was working as a servant maid in the palace of Rama under a different disguise. She asked  Sita to draw the figure of Ravana and when she drew the picture out of fun, Rama saw that. The demoness used that opportunity to betray Sita and Rama wanted to kill his wife Sita. He assigned the task of killing Sita deep inside the forest to Lakshmana. And Lakshmana took her to the jungle, but his mind didn’t allow him to commit the ghostly act. So he showed her the hermitage of Valmiki and took back the heart of a deer and showed it to Rama as a proof of killing Sita. Rama came to know that Sita was alive after a very long time. In the original Ramayana of Valmiki she was simply banished from the country because a washer man suspected her chastity.

 

Tribal Folk song!

Ramayana is the only epic in the world which has penetrated the deepest parts on earth in the oldest time. Even tribal communities have different versions of Ramayana episodes in their folk songs. That shows Ramayana might have happened several thousand years ago.  The folk song in the tribal Bundelghund region says when Sita visited the forest she drew a portrait of Ravana at the behest of her friends. They insisted her to draw the figure to see How Ravana looked like. This happened long after the death of Ravana and Sita’s joining her husband. Sita did it with the cowdung.  As she was making the figure up to waist, there appeared Rama and suspected Sita’s fidelity. Then he ordered her expulsion.

 

There are over 3000 versions or more of Ramayana. Every time I go to British Library in London, I see a new Ramayana episode or many episodes in very old Tamil Books. In 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature there are two episodes which are not found anywhere else in the world. In the Alvar/ Tamil Vaishnavite saints’ poems we see new episodes about squirrels helping in the bridge work. In the Pali and Prakirit language literature we see newer versions.

 

The most attractive story of Rama and Sita stand for the purest qualities and virtues on earth. No other literature of the ancient world has made such an impact anywhere on earth. After the founding of ISKCON and other organisations, story of Rama and Krishna and the Mantra ‘Hare Rama’ have been echoing in the nook and corner of the world.

Please read also my articles on Vivekananda’s lecture on Sita and Sangam literature poems on Rama and Sita.

Long Live Rama’s Name!

–Subham–

RAVANA’S SOUL IN A RECEPTACLE; STRANGE THAI RAMAYANA -2 (Post No.5020)

RAVANA’S SOUL IN A RECEPTACLE; STRANGE THAI RAMAYANA -2 (Post No.5020)

WRITTEN by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 17 May 2018

 

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Post No. 5020

 

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I posted the first part yesterday under the title

SITA DAUGHTER OF RAVANA! STRANGE THAI RAMAYANA-1

 

Episode of Ravana’s Soul/Heart

Ramakien repeats one strange thing in more than one place- that is the soul of a person is kept away from his body. Ravana’s soul was also kept in a receptacle separately and was left with Goputra. When Rama’s weapons did not work with Ravana Vibhishana revealed the secret of Ravana’s soul.

Goputra was his preceptor. Hanuman was given the task of finding Ravana’s soul or heart and crush it. So he went with Angada to the ASHRAMA of Goputra and told him that he was fed up with Rama and so he wanted to join the army of Ravana.  Goputra believed the words of Hanuman like a simpleton. Taking both of them, Goputra went to Ravana’s place with the receptacle. Hanuman and Angada accompanied with some secret plan. When they reached the palace gate Goputra remembered if they went inside the palace the soul will fly back to Ravana. So he left it with Angada. Hanauman suddenly came back to Angada under the excuse of giving him some safety first instructions. At that time Hanuman created a fake heart/ soul and took the real soul and asked Angada to bury it under the sea. Then Rama easily killed Ravana.

Episode of Mahipala Debasura

Mahipala Debasura was Ravana’s best friend. Without knowing Ravana’s death, he came to Ravana’s palace to see him. Having heard about Ravana’s death, he became angry and laid a siege around Lanka. At that time, Vibhishana was ruling Lanka. Rama realising that Vibishana may not have enough strength to tackle all the troubles, sent an arrow to Vibhisana every week. Using that arrow Vibhishana sent an SOS message to Rama. He sent Hanuman to help Vibishana. Since Hanuman was ruling nearby kingdom Nabapuri with the name Phya Anujit came to Lanka and fought with Mahipala. When Hanuman tore the body of Mahipala it united into one. Then Vibishana revealed him the secret of killing him. At his behest Hanuman tore the chest of Mahipala and he died.

Episode of Insurrection in Lanka

After Ravana’s death Mandodari became one of the queens of Vibishana. At that time she was already pregnant and gave birth to a son. He was named Varanisura. His governor told him the story of his father Ravana and Varanisura decided to take revenge upon Vibhishana. His governor gave him the new name Bainasuri vangsh. With the intention of taking revenge he sought the help of Chakravarti, the ruler of Malivan. He was Ravana’s friend. They invaded Lanka and put Vibishana behind the bars. Hanuman with his son Ashurapad came to Kishkinda and got the help of Sugreeva. They went to Ayodhya to get the help of Rama. All of them marched to Lanka, killed Baina surivangsh and released Vibhishana.

 

If we compare other episodes of Valmiki Ramayana with Ramakiyan, there are only minor differences in the Thai Ramakiyan.

Who is Sita?

Sita was the daughter of Mandodari and Ravana, but abandoned in a forest as soon as she was born. King of Mithila found her and raised her. Ravana came and abducted her without knowing it was his daughter. When he tried to touch her his skin burnt and then couldn’t touch her. So there are so many versions of Ramayana in Ramakien as well as palatial murals in Bangkok and other places in Thailand.

 

There are some differences in the birth of Rama’s sons and Sita’s infidelity etc. It is an unending story. Beautiful sculptures and murals of Ramayana are in Bangkok and other places. We will look at them separately.

to be continued……………

–Subham–

 

SITA DAUGHTER OF RAVANA! STRANGE THAI RAMAYANA-1 (Post No.5017)

SITA DAUGHTER OF RAVANA! STRANGE THAI RAMAYANA-1 (Post No.5017)

WRITTEN by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 16 May 2018

 

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Post No. 5017

 

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Ramayana has influenced Thailand in its culture, language and arts. But the Thai Ramayana has got many strange things in it. It may look funny for some and blasphemous for others. It may be due to the fact that the original Thai Ramayana was destroyed in a fire accident in the 18th century and then several hands added new materials to it little by little. Three versions are available now.

 

In India every temple has got some story behind the Murtis/idols of the temple which is nothing but a mixture of local legends and the original epics. Names of Rishis and saints belonging to different periods are freely used, but all with the good intention of increasing the greatness of the temple.

 

In Thailand also Rama and Sita are greatly respected but with the distortion of the original Ramayana which is over 2000 years old. Two facts will startle any Hindu in India who has read Ramayana:

1.Sita is the daughter of Ravana and Mandothari and Ravana abducted and married her without knowing the fact.

  1. Hanuman is not a chaste god but married many women and had children. In Valmiki Ramayana he is a Brahmachari; a celibate.
  2. Apart from Ravana, there was another demon with 1000 more heads.

4.The names of the Ramayana characters are distorted beyond recognition.

5.Thais believed Ramayana happened in Thai soil.

6.Thais don’t know Valmiki or the word Ramayana. They know only Ramakien (may be Ramakirti or Rama Khyana).

Manich Jumsai, an authority on Ramakien says, “The Thai version was adapted to Thai sentiments. The story is so made and adapted to that Thai character that no Thai thinks of it a thing originated from foreign origin. It is impossible to convince an average Thai that the incidents connected with Rama story did not take place in Thailand.

Strange names

Kucchi= Manthara (Kubja=Kubji=Kuchi)

Svaahaa= Anjanaa

Kallaacanaa= Ahalyaa

Kaakanaasuraa= Tadakaa

Khukhan= Guhan

Mongkut= Kusa (Rama’s son)

Vajmrga=Vaalmiiki

Satrud= Satrughna

Khrut= Garuda

Lak= Lakshmana

Pulastya= Lastian

Bibhek= Vibhishana

Chiuha= Vidyukkja

Monto=Mandodari

Totskan= Ravana (Dasa kantha)

 

The following have distorted spelling but easily recognisable:

Siidaa (Sita Devi),Phaali (Vaali), Sukrip= Sugreevan, Intharachit (Indrajit), Kumphakhan (Kumbakarna)

 

New names which are not identifiable:

Benchakai, Maiyaraab, Maalivaggabrahmaa, Suvannamachchaaa, Machchaanu, Mahaapaal, Debaasura and Unraaj

 

Here is the story:-

It is not divided into cantos but divided into three parts .

The Benchaki episode, the Maiyaraab episode and several other episodes are new; not found in the Valmiki Ramayana

Benchakaai Episode; Hanuman had a son!

Ravana ordered Banshakaai, a demoness to take  the form of Sita, feign dead and float down the river near Rama to dupe him. After Hanuman and Sugreeva captured her she revealed her identity. Rama forgave her when he came to know it was Vibhishana’s daughter and asked Hanuman to take her out of Lanka. Hanuman made love to her and she bore him a son called Asuraphad.

 

Hanuman’s Second Son

When building the bridge and Hanuman and civil engineer Nilan had a fight and so Rama punished both. Nilan was sent to Sugreevan as servant and Hanuman was ordered to finish the bridge work in seven days. When all stones he put disappeared he went down the sea and met a beauty Suvannamachchaa (Suvarna Matsya= Gold Fish); Hanuman fell in love with her and they had a son;  his name was Machchaanu (Fish).

 

Maiyaraab episode

Ravana asked his friend Maiyaraab, King of Patala (under water world). Maiyaraab went to Rama’s camp, sprinkled sleeping powder and brought unconscious Rama to Patala. Sugreevan found it and sent Hanuman to rescue him. He sought his son Macchaanu help him.

 

 

Episode of Maalivaggabrahmaa

 

When demons fell one after another at Rama’s arrow, Ravana got worried and asked his grandfather Maalivaraja Brahma to pronounce an impartial judgement in the case. He accused Rama of great many things. Brahma listened to both the sides in the no man’s land (battle field) in the presence of Devas and found Ravana guilty. Thus Ravana’s plan got totally misfired.

 

–to be continued………………

 

SANSKRIT WONDERS IN THAILAND! (Post No.4987)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 7 May 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 21-23 (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 4987

 

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There are lot of Sanskrit words in Thai language. It is a linguistic wonder. The language resembles Chines in structure with mono syllables and intonation. But vocabulary wise it is under the influence of Sanskrit. No one knows how and why!

Tamil words and Sanskrit words change when it goes to foreign lands.  A Sri Lankan Tamil write Thurkai for Goddess Durga. Malaysian Tamils write Tamayanti for Damayanti. When Sanskrit migrated to Turkey and Syria 3400 years ago the Mitanni civilization wrote Tushratta for Dasaratha, Pratartana for Pratardhana. Mauritian Tamils write Murde mootoo for Maruthamuthu. Further they go from the mainland India, stranger becomes the spellings of names and words.

 

A lot of place names in Thailand ends in Buri. It is the corrupted form of Puri, Pura. Ramayana characters took strange names in Thai vocabulary.

I give below just 12 place names for comparison—

Lop Buri- Lavapuri

Ayutthaya – Ayodhya

Nakhon Raatchasiimaa- Nagara Raja simha

Nakhon Patham- Nagara Prathama

Nakhon si Thammaraat- Nagara Sri Dharma raja

(look Nagara comes first unlike in Indian languages. Those who do research in Indus Valley Script must know all these peculiarities. In Middle eastern languages also such changes are common)

Pishtnulok- Vishnuloka

U Bon -Utpala

Sawankhalok – Swarga Loka

Surin-Surendrapuri

Yasothorn- Yasodhara

Prathet- Pradesa

Chonnabod- Janapada

Not only place names plant names, animal names, Ramayana characters – all are distorted beyond recognition.

If anyone wants to decipher languages like Indus script one should study languages like Thai.

In Tamil, Sanskrit and English the ‘Day’ comes as suffix (Sun Day, Mon Day etc.) In Thai Day will come first i.e prefix!

Van adit – Aditya Vara- Sun Day- jnayitru Kizamai

Van Can – Candra/soma Vara- Mon Day- Thingat Kizamai etc.

 

But the month names look like Malayala/Sanskrit months

Mesayon- Mesa Masa – Mesaayana

Praphaakhom- Vrshabaagama- Rishaba masa

mithunayon -mithuna masa

karkadaakhom- karkada masa

simhaakhom  etc.

 

Caste Names take strange shapes!

Brahmana- phraam

Kshatriya – Kasat

Vaisya – phait

Sudra- suud

Deva and Devi becomes Theva and Thevi like Sri Lankan, Malaysian and South African Tamil!

So far we saw only the difference in spellings or the sounds. Even meanings change.

Once I had some argument with my in laws who are from Kerala. When I mentioned a plant name he recognised something else. He described it differently. When we differed in two three plant names I googled and found out both are right. In Tamil what I said has a different name in malayalam and that word is used for a different plant in Tamil

 

Like the plant names other words also have different meanings unlike Sanskrit. So one must be very careful in deriving the meaning. Foreigners who studied Vedas did big blunders in translating them into English. For the word ASURA in the Rig Veda 40 different scholars have given forty different explanations.

44 Sanskrit Inscriptions!

Sanskrit inscriptions are the longest in the world! Rudradaman’s (130 CE) Junagad (Gujarat) inscription is one of the oldest and longest inscriptions in beautiful Sanskrit.

In Thailand over 40 Sanskrit inscriptions are found. They are dated from sixth century CE. There is a one word inscription ‘Lingesvaram’

in one place. But the longest one at Pranchinburi has 128 stanzas with 412 lines. Majority of the inscriptions are in between the two extremes.

A few of them are in beautiful Sanskrit poetry format with a good number of similes.   Most of them are about building shrines or stupas.

 

Dr Satyavrat Sastri of Delhi University went and stayed there for two years. He did detailed research on these inscriptions; he has explained the metres, the grammar, similes and style found in the inscriptions.

 

Source Book: Sanskrit and Indian culture in Thailand by Satya Vrat Shastri,Delhi,1982

I have taken some of the points from his book and presented here with my inputs.

My old article:-

Hindu Wonders in a Muslim Country! | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/2012/05/12/hindu-wonders-in-a-muslim-country/

12 May 2012 – Many of us know that Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world, but many of us do not know the fourth largest Hindu population is in Indonesia! This is the country which has highest number of Hindus outside Indian subcontinent (next to Nepal and Bangladesh). It is a countrywith 17000 islands…

 

–Subham–