DON’T HATE YOURSELF AND OTHERS- MANU, BUDDHA, CHANAKYA & VALLUVAR AGREE! (Post 4631)

DON’T HATE YOURSELF AND OTHERS- MANU, BUDDHA, CHANAKYA & VALLUVAR AGREE! (Post 4631)

 

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Date: 18 JANUARY 2018

 

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Post No. 4631

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Hatred to oneself leads to death;

to another person loss of wealth;

to the king to destruction and

to a Brahmin to the destruction of the family

–Chanakya Niti, chapter 10, sloka 11

aatmadveshaad bhavenmrtyuh paradveshaad dhanakshyah

rajadveshaad bhavennaaso brahmadveshaat kulakshayah

 

We know that if someone hates oneself, it leads to one’s suicide; if one hates others it leads to conflicts and clashes resulting in destruction of life or property.

 

The message is any form of hatred creates problems.

Buddha in Buddhist Veda Dhammapada and Tiruvalluvar in Tamil Veda Tirukkural deal with this topic. It shows the importance of the topic.

The opposite of hatred is Love.

 

Chanakya dealt with hatred in only one couplet/ sloka.

 

Tamil poet Tiru valLuvar deals with this topic in ten couplets!

 

Valluvar says,

Out of hatred arise all evils; out of love comes the glory that is called discreteness- Kural 860

“The evil of hatred is the grief of griefs. If it is rooted out, you can enjoy the joy of joys (854)

Nip in the bud the feeling of hostility and you prosper well. FOr one is fast ruined by fomenting hatred – Kural 858

 

Buddha said,
For hate is not conquered by hate; hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal (Dhammapada1-5)

 

Valluvar said,
The best punishment for those who do evil to you, is to shame them by returning good for evil (Kural 314).

 

Manu hates Hatred!

Manu, the author of the world’s first book on law—Manu Smrti deals with hatred in more places than the Buddha.

 

In the very beginning he says law book is ‘only for those who are without passion or hatred’!

 

“Learn the religion that is constantly followed by learned men, good men who have neither passion nor hatred”- Manu 2-1

“If someone speaks wrongly and someone questions wrongly, one of them will die or incur other’s hatred “ 2-11

“By obstructing his sensory powers, destroying passion and hatred, and doing no violence to living beings, he becomes fit for immortality”- 6-60

 

“The man who is deluded to hate the king will certainly be destroyed, for the king quickly makes up his mind to destroy him” – Manu 7-12

 

“ A husband should wait for one year for a wife  who hates him; but after a year, he should take away her inheritance and not live with her”- 9-77

“Satva Guna is traditionally regarded as knowledge, Rajo Guna as hatred and passion, Tamo Guna as darkness and ignorance”– Manu 12-26

Duryodhana was an embodiment of hatred and jealousy; Yudhishthira was a symbol of love and righteousness. Duryodhana destroyed himself; Yudhishthira survived! This is a lesson from the Mahabharata.

If you want to live without problems, don’t hate anyone.

 

–subham–

 

 

 

Manu’s Most Beautiful 12 Couplets (Post No.4504)

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Date: 16 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4504

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All the Hindu scriptures we have today, except Vedic literature and Bhagavd Gita, are updated versions. Hindus always update their scriptures and so there is scope for interpolations. For instance, Narendra Modi became the 14th Prime Minster of India on 26 May 2014. Pauraniks will write it in a different language:

 

“In the Kaliyuga there will come a man with the name of Indra from the land of Somnathji and he would rule India from Indraprastha for long. He is fond of a flower that grows in water. He would not be from the Brahmana or Kshatria castes. He would paint the land with saffron colour. He will be flying high in yantra Pakshis (mechanical birds)”

 

Even the events that had already happened, they would put in future tense as if it was written in 1000 CE or before. It is a style or genre.

 

In the same way lot of materials are added to Manu Smrti during the time of Brahmin rule- the Sunga Dynasty. All those were put in the mouth of Manu or Bruhu. Lot of things against shudras were added. But how can one know which is new which is old. It is very easy if one reads the whole book without any bias. Most of the anti-shudra materials are at the end of the chapters. So any one could have added them easily or amended them easily. Another touch stone is there. We can easily find out what sort of man Manu was by reading the full book.

 

Here is a proof to show that he was genuinely a man of honesty and integrity. In the second chapter, there are 12 slokas or couplets which show that he held Vedas in high esteem. After upholding the Vedas he gives free hand to every one. He says if anyone has doubts or conflicts of interest they can always follow the tradition that is followed by the elders. Then one can follow what gives one real pleasure. This means one should not act against his or her conscience.

 

All adults know what is right and wrong; all of us know which gives one permanent happiness that which never affects others. If something gives us happiness, but pricks our conscience then that is not true happiness. If one cannot do a thing in public, then it is not happiness. So he give the four marks to identify the Dharma or right things or righteousness:

Here are the first 12 Slokas of Second Chapter of Manava Dharma Shastra or Manu Smrti, the Hindu Law Book, in fact the oldest Law book in the world:

 

1. Learn that sacred law which is followed by men learned in the Veda and assented to in their hearts by the virtuous, who are ever exempt from hatred and inordinate affection (passion).

 

2. To act solely from a desire for rewards is not laudable, yet an exemption from that desire is not to be found in this world: for on that desire is grounded the study of the Veda and the performance of the actions, prescribed by the Veda.

 

3. The desire for rewards, indeed, has its root in the conception that an act can yield them, and in consequence of that conception sacrifices are performed; vows and the laws prescribing restraints are all stated to be kept through the idea that they will bear fruit.

 

4. Not a single act here below appears ever to be done by a man free from desire; for whatever man does, it is the result of the impulse of desire.

 

5. He who persists in discharging these prescribed duties in the right manner, reaches the deathless state and even in this life obtains the fulfilment of all the desires that he may have conceived.

 

6. The whole Veda is the first source of the sacred law, next the tradition and the virtuous conduct of those who know the Veda further, also the customs of holy men, and finally self-satisfaction.

 

7. Whatever law has been ordained for any person by Manu, that has been fully declared in the Veda: for that sage was omniscient.

 

8. But a learned man after fully scrutinising all this with the eye of knowledge, should, in accordance with the authority of the revealed texts, be intent on the performance of his duties.

 

9. For that man who obeys the law prescribed in the revealed texts and in the sacred tradition, gains fame in this world and after death unsurpassable bliss.

 

10. But by Sruti (revelation) is meant the Veda, and by Smriti (tradition) the Institutes of the sacred law: those two must not be called into question in any matter, since from those two the sacred law shone forth.

 

11. Every twice-born man, who, relying on the Institutes of dialectics, treats with contempt those two sources (of the law), must be cast out by the virtuous, as an atheist and a scorner of the Veda.

 

12. The Veda, the sacred tradition, the customs of virtuous men, and one’s own pleasure, they declare to be visibly the fourfold means of defining the sacred law.

 

My Views:-

Most beautiful points are

1.Four fold Mark of Religion

Vedas, Law Book, Customs of virtuous men, One’s own pleasure (Self Satisfaction)

 

2.No one acts without desire. If anyone does anything without desire, one reaches the highest stage

3.Good men are those who have neither hatred nor passion.

The rules Manu insists for the twice born are very strict. If someone follows those strict rules, the concessions he gives to learned Brahmins are justified.

Two recent things that happened in the British courts point in this direction.

(1).A girl who is an Oxford University student hit her boy friend in drunken state. But the judge spared her the prison sentence saying that since she was very studious having higher education, he did not want to send her to prison.

Here we see those who have knowledge are given concessions.

(2). The second incident was about a doctor. Because of his status the judge exempted him from coming to the witness box.

(3). In the Soviet Union, even the most dictatorial government in the world did not send Sakharov, the father of nuclear science, to concentration camps. He was given lot of concessions.

This is the reason that Buddha and Manu said even if the Brahmins kill their own father and mother, destroy a king and the kingdom no sin would touch them.(Please read my earlier articles on this topic)

 

–Subham–

 

MANU IN TAMIL VEDA TIRUKKURAL: Rev GU Pope and Father Beschi compare -1 ( Post No.4459)

MANU IN TAMIL VEDA TIRUKKURAL: Rev GU Pope and Father Beschi compare -1 ( Post No.4459)


Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 4 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4459

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Rev. G U Pope, a Tamil scholar and Christian preacher published The Sacred Kural of Tiruvalluva Nayanar in 1886 with his English translation. Throughout the book he had used his predecessors’ views. He had used Italian Jesuit priest Constantine Joseph Beschi’s Latin translation of Tirukkural, the Tamil Veda and also the translation of Ellis. They have compared some of the Kural couplets with the Manu Smrti, also known as Manava Dharma Shastra.

I will give their list below:

 

 

Role of a King

Valluvar says in his Kural Couplets,

The world clings to the feet of the great leader who wields his sceptre with love for his subjects (Kural 544)

The leader saves his subjects from enemies and flawlessly punishes wrong doers (549)

The judge gives capital punishment to wicked killers like removing weeds from a flourishing field (550)

 

 

Manu says in the Seventh Chapter,

  1. Let him be ever ready to strike, his prowess constantly displayed, and his secrets constantly concealed, and let him constantly explore the weaknesses of his foe.
  2. Of him who is always ready to strike, the whole world stands in awe; let him therefore make all creatures subject to himself even by the employment of force.
  3. Having fully considered the purpose, (his) power, and the place and the time, he assumes by turns many (different) shapes for the complete attainment of justice.
  4. The (man), who in his exceeding folly hates him, will doubtlessly perish; for the king quickly makes up his mind to destroy such (a man).

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Oppression of a Tyrant

Valluvar says in his Kural Couplets,

The leader who does not injure and adopt proper measures each day – his kingdom will perish day by day (Kural 553)

 

Let them that want their greatness to continue begin with sternness and punish within measure (562).

 

Manu says in the Seventh Chapter,

  1. Having fully considered the time and the place (of the offence), the strength and the knowledge (of the offender), let him justly inflict that (punishment) on men who act unjustly.

 

  1. Let the king, having carefully considered (each) affair, be both sharp and gentle; for a king who is both sharp and gentle is highly respected.

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Espionage

Valluvar says,

Kural Couplets 581-590

The reports given by one spy must be tested and verified through another spy (Kural 588)

The spies must be sent one by one, apart; if three spies agree, the information shall be confirmed (589)

Able spies watch keenly the officers, kinsmen and the enemies and all for information (584)

 

Manu says in the Seventh Chapter

  1. Let that (man) always personally visit by turns all those (other officials); let him properly explore their behaviour in their districts through spies (appointed to) each.
  2. For the servants of the king, who are appointed to protect (the people), generally become knaves who seize the property of others; let him protect his subjects against such (men).
  3. On the whole eightfold business and the five classes (of spies), on the goodwill or enmity and the conduct of the circle (of neighbours he must) carefully (reflect).

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KILL ANYONE, NO SIN IF YOU ARE A BRAHMIN: MANU AND BUDDHA SAY! (Post No.4402)

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Date: 16 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4402

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KILL ANYONE, NO SIN IF YOU ARE A BRAHMIN: MANU AND BUDDHA SAY! (Post No.4402)

Manu said that if anyone can recite the Rig Veda, even if he destroys the three worlds, he incurs no sin!

Buddha said that even if a Brahmin killed a king, his father and mother, he incurs no sin! It may look strange. But one must read between the lines.

 

What is the message they want to give us?

A true Brahmin who has mastered Rig veda can’t think of anything like hurting anyone; leave alone destroying the three worlds.

A true Brahmin, according to Buddha, is equal to a saint, i.e. one with saintly virtues. So, he can’t think of hurting anyone.

 

Tamil poet Tiru Valluvar also said that “A Brahmin is kind to all creatures” (Kural 30)

 

MANU ON RV

“A Brahmin by retaining Rig Veda (RV) in his memory incurs no guilt, though he should destroy the three worlds”– 11-261

Manu on the Veda

“The Veda is the eternal eye of the ancestors, gods and humans; the teachings of the Veda are impossible to master and impossible to measure; this is an established fact”–Manu 12-94

The same verse is translated by Monier Williams as follows:-

“The Veda is of patriarchs and men

And even of gods, a very eye eternal

Giving unerring light; it is beyond

All finite faculties, nor can be proved

By force of human argument—this is

A positive conclusion”–  Manu 12-94

 

 

Buddha Says:–

 

“And a saint, a Brahmin, is pure from past sins; even if he had killed his father and mother, had murdered two noble kings, and had ravaged a whole kingdom and its people”

–Buddha in Dhammapada, Sloka 294

 

Because he has put away evil, he is called a Brahmin; because he lives in peace, he is called a ‘samana’; because he leaves all sins behind, he is called a ‘Pabbajita’, a pilgrim.

–Buddha in Dhammapada, Sloka 388

Ons should never hurt a Brahmin; and a Brahmin should never return evil for evil

–Buddha in Dhammapada, Sloka 389

 

It is important that we should never quote anything out of context; more important is that we should understand the meaning behind the words.

Foreigners who quoted Vedic hymns always used them out of context and took literary meaning. So we must be careful when we read anything written by foreign and non-Hindu hands.

–Subham, Subham-

Manu and Longfellow: Great Men think Alike (Post No.4074)

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Post No. 4074

 
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Tamil saint Tiru Jnana Sambandar says we can lead a good life on the earth; there is no paucity of good things (good ways)here (mannil Nalla vannam Vaazalaam…..)

 

Manu said this first in the Manava Dharma Sastra:

“On the path on which his fathers and grandfathers have walked, on that path of good man let him walk, and he will not go wrong” 4-178

H W LONGFELLOW (1807-1882) said,

 

A PSALM OF LIFE

WHAT THE HEART OF THE YOUNG MAN
SAID TO THE PSALMIST

 

Art is long, and Time is fleeting,
And our hearts, though stout and brave,
Still, like muffled drums, are beating
Funeral marches to the grave.

In the world’s broad field of battle,
In the bivouac of Life,
Be not like dumb, driven cattle !
Be a hero in the strife !

Trust no Future, howe’er pleasant !
Let the dead Past bury its dead !
Act,— act in the living Present !
Heart within, and God overhead !

    Lives of great men all remind us
We can make our lives sublime,
And, departing, leave behind us
Footprints on the sands of time ;

    Footprints, that perhaps another,
Sailing o’er life’s solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
Seeing, shall take heart again.

Let us, then, be up and doing,
With a heart for any fate ;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
Learn to labor and to wait.

 

Bhagavad Gita 3-21

Whatever a great man does, the same is done by others as well. Whatever standard he sets, the world follows.

Dr Radhakrishnanan comments on this sloka:

“The Gita points out that the great men are the path makers who blaze the trail that other men follow. The light generally come through individuals who are in advance of society They see the light shining on the mountain heights while their fellows sleeps in the valley below”.

 

Swami Chinmayananda says,

“The moral rejuvenation of a society in any period of history can take place only because of the example set up by the leaders of that nation. Students can be disciplined only when teachers are well behaved; the minor officials cannot be kind and honest when the rulers of the country are corrupt and tyrants. Children’s behaviour depends entirely upon , and is ever controlled by, the standard of purity and culture of their parents.

–Subham–

 

 

ABOUT SIN: from Tamil and Sanskrit Literature! (Post No.3653)

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Post No. 3653

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A sin committed does not, like a cow, bear fruit soon; one sees it sons and grandsons, it not in oneself; a sin necessarily bears consequences like a heavy (indigestible) meal in the belly –Mahabharata 1-75-2

naa dharmas carito raajan sadyah phalati gaur iva

putresu vaa naptrsu vaa n aced aatmani pasyati

phalaty eva dhruvam paapam gurubhuktam ivo dare

-Mbh 1-75-2

 

Tamil Veda Tirukkural on Sin

 

There may be forgiveness for any sin but not for ingratitude (Tirukkural 110)

 

For those who harmed the cows, who did abortions, who harmed Brahmins, there is atonement; but for those who have been ungrateful, there is no atonement- Alathur Kizar in Purnanauru verse 34

 

Harming Brahmins is a sin: Puram34, 43

 

 

Deeds forbidden by the wise – who dare to do them? –even if they succeed, suffer grief and troubles (Tirukkural 658)

 

Though he sees his mother starving, let him not do those actions which are condemned by the wise (Tirukkural 656)

 

Never do a wrong for which you repent afterwards. Once done repeat it not (Tirukkural 655)

 

All profits, that make others weep, depart with tears. Even if lost, blessings flow from good deeds(Tirukkural 659)

 

Even in adversity, men gifted with an unfaltering vision, never do actions that are disgraceful (Tirukkural 654)

 

Picture 2 of Hell

 

Manu on Sins

 

Five Great Sins/ Pancha mahaapaataka

 

Killing of Brahmana- Brahmahatya

Consuming liquor- suraapaanam

Stealing- Steyam

Misbehaving with teacher’s wife- Gurvanga naagamah

Having association with the above – Samsargi

 

Brahmahatyaa suraapaanamsteyam gurvanganaagamah

Mahanti paatakaanyaahustasamsargi cha panchamah

–Manu smrti 11-54

 

If one mainly practises virtue [punya] and to a lesser extent vice [påpa], one obtains bliss in a heavenly realm, clothed with those very elements. 12:20.

 

But if one primarily practices vice and less virtue, one suffers, deserted by the elements, the torments inflicted by Yama. Having endured those torments of Yama, one again enters, free from taint, those very five elements, each in due proportion. 12:21-22.

 

He who has committed an offence and has repented, is freed from that offence, but he is purified only by [the resolution of] ceasing [to sin and thinking] ‘I will do so no more.’11:231.

 

He who, having either unintentionally or intentionally committed a reprehensible deed, desires to be freed from [the blame of it, must not commit it a second time. 11:233.

 

Having thus considered in his mind what results will arise from his deeds after death, one should always be good in thoughts, speech, and actions. 11:232.

 

The penances for transgressions [made public] have been thus declared according to the law; learn next the penances for secret [transgressions]. 11:248.

 

Sixteen suppressions of the breath [Prå±åyama] accompanied by [the recitation of] the Vyåhritis and of the syllable Om, purify, if they are repeated daily, after a month even the murderer of a learned priest. 11:249.

 

Even a drinker of [the spirituous liquor called] Sura becomes pure, if he mutters the hymn [seen] by Kutsa, ‘Removing by thy splendour our guilt, O Agni,’ &c., [that seen] by Vasishtha, ‘With their hymns the Vasishthas woke the Dawn,’ &c., the Mahitra [hymn] and [the verses called] Suddhavatis. 11:250.

 

Even he who has stolen gold, instantly becomes free from guilt, if he once mutters [the hymn beginning with the words] ‘The middlemost brother of this beautiful, ancient Hotri-priest’ and the Sivasaºkalpa sûkta. 11:251.

 

But if one fasts for three days, bathing thrice a day, and reciting [while standing in water] the Aghamarshana sûkta (Rig Veda10-190), is [likewise] freed from all offences causing loss of caste. 11:260. 5

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Sin in Bhagavad Gita

 

What pleasure can be ours, O Krishna, after we have slain the sons of Dhritarashtra? Only SIN will accrue to us if we kill these malignant.

Alas, what a great SIN have resolved to commit in striving to slay our own people through our greed for the pleasures of the kingdom.1-36, 45

 

But if thou doest not this lawful battle, then thou wilt fail thy duty and glory and will incur SIN.

Treating alike pleasure and pain,gain and loss, victory and defeat, then get ready for battle. Thus thou shall not incur SIN. 2-33, 38

But by what is a man impelled to commit sin, as if by force, even against his will, O Krishna? 3-36

The All pervading Spirit does not take on the SIN or the merit of any. Wisdom is enveloped by ignorance; thereby creatures are bewildered. 5-15

But those men of virtuous deeds in whom SIN has come to an end, freed from the delusion of dulaities, worship Me steadfast in their vows. 7-28

The gateway of this hell leading to the ruin of the soul is threefold, lust, anger and greed. Therefore, these three one should abandon 16-21

 

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Man is never punished FOR his sins but BY his sins. To dissipate our energies through the sense organs is the vulgar hobby of the thoughtless mortal.

–Swami Chinmayananda

Sin and mercury are hard to digest- Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

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Five Karma Candaalaah

 

Five lowest category of people are:

Atheist – naastikah

Wicked -pisunah

Ungrateful- krtaghnah

Sinner- dirgha dosakah

By birth- janmatah

Naastikah pisunashchaiva krtaghno diirghadosakah

Chatwaarah karmachandaalaa janmataschaapi panchamah

 

–Subham–

 

 

Manu’s Beautiful Definition of Dharma!(Post No. 3564)

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Post No.3564

 

 

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What are the sources of Dharma?

Veda- Four Vedas

Smrti – Law Books

Sadaacaara – Good Conduct

Priyamaatmanah – What is pleasing to mind

vedah smrtih sadaacaarah sasya ca priyamaatmanah

etat caturvidham praahuh sakshaaddharmasya lakshanam

–Manu Smrtih 2-12

 

Manu, the first law giver in the world has defined righteousness. As always believed Vedas and Smrtis (law books) are the source of Dharma. It is very difficult to translate the word ‘Dharma’ in English. But Tamils succeeded in Tamilizing that Sanskrit word as ARAM (Dharam in Hindi). The most interesting point of this definition is WHAT IS PLEASING TO MIND!

 

Does it mean that anyone can do anything that which pleases one’s mind? No. It must be a good conduct. Why did he add this after giving three sources? That is because Dharma also changes according to time, location and the circumstances. So, when one in doubt he does what pleases his mind  without violating the other three factors i.e. Vedas, Smrtis (law books) and accepted good conduct. I will give you one example.

 

Brahmin priests get enormous number of Dhotis (Veshti) in a year by performing various rituals. But they don’t get enough money to pay for their house rent, bills and travel etc. When they met Kanchi Paramacharya, he suggested that if there are too many dhotis involved in a ceremony, they can get money with a small thread representing Vesti/dhoti.

 

So, when someone is in doubt about following certain rules, one can always consult the saints or elders living at that time. Sri Sathya Sai Baba made Gayatri a universal mantra, available to everyone. He did not insist initiation or caste or sacred thread to recite Gayatri, the most powerful mantra in the three Vedas. This is applicable to Baba devotees, because they have already fallen in a divine, religious grew. So, nothing could go wrong if they are in the grew.

 

In the very first verse of the Second Chapter of Manu Smrti, Manu says, “Learn Dharma that is constantly followed and assented to in the heart by learned men, good men who have neither HATRED or PASSION – Manu 2-1

 

Narada Smrti says that the Four Feet of Dharma are

Jnaanam – Knowledge

Dhyaanam – Contemplation of Inner Self

Sama – Control of Mind

Dama- Control of Sense Organs

 

catushpaadaa hi dharmasya jnaanam dhyaanam samo damah

–Narada smrtih 1-8

Valluvar’s Definition

 

“That which should be done is virtue;

That which should be avoided is vice

–Tiruk Kural 4-40

 

Tiruvalluvar, author of the Tamil Veda, Tirukkural, also defines Dharma in ten couplets.

He says, “What brings more glory to man than righteousness? It gives prosperity (on earth) and also happiness (in heaven)- Kural 41

 

Do good deeds unceasingly, as far as you are able, by thought word and deed 43

Do the deeds of charity now without postponing them to your old age; for they will be unfailing help to you in the hour of death- 46

Buddha on Righteousness!

 

Gautama Buddha explains Dharma (righteousness) in 17 couplets in Dhammapada (Path of Dharma). He said nothing new. All are already in the Gita and Upanishads.

“A man is not great because he is a warrior and kills other men; but because he hurts not any living being, he in truth is called a great man” (269)

“A man is not on the path of Dharma if he settles matters in a violent haste (256)

“He in whom three sins (envy, greed and deceit) are uprooted and who is wise and has love, he is in truth a man of honour”(263)

 

Is short, everything said by Buddha is already in Mahabharata.

 

Long Live Dharma!

–Subham–

 

மாப்பிள்ளைக்கும் பெண்ணுக்கும் வழிவிடுங்கள்: மனு கட்டளை (Post No.3292)

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Post No.3292

 

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மனு தர்ம சாத்திரத்தில் ஏராளமான சுவையான விஷயங்கள் இருக்கின்றன.

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முன்னொரு கட்டுரையில் மனிதனுக்கு கிருத யுகத்தில் 400 வயது, பெண்ணின் வாய் எப்போதுமே சுத்தமானது, பெரிய ரிஷிகளைப் பார்த்து ஒருவர் என்னருமை சின்னப் பையன்களா என்று சொன்னது சரிதான், 36 ஆண்டு, 18 ஆண்டு பிரம்மச்சர்யம், திதியில் மாமிசம் சேர்ப்பது, பெண்களை நன்றாகக் கவனிக்காவிடில் அந்தக் குடும்பம் வேருடன் அழியும் , கீழ்ஜாதிக்காரன் படித்திருந்தால் அவனிடம் கைகட்டி வாய்பொத்தி கல்வி கற்க வேண்டும், ஆயிரம் தந்தைக்கு ஒரு தாய் சமம் — முதலிய பல விஷயங்களைக் கொடுத்திருந்தேன். அவைகளை இந்த பிளாக்கில் படிக்கலாம். இப்போது வேறு சில சுவையான  விஷயங்களைச் சொல்லுகிறேன்.

 

யார் யாருக்கு விலகி வழிவிட வேண்டும் என்று மனு சொல்லுகிறார்:-

 

ஒருவனுடன் 10 ஆண்டு வசித்தால் அவனை நண்பனாகக் கருத வேண்டும்.

ஒரு கலைஞனுடன் 5 ஆண்டு வசித்தால் அவனை நண்பனாகக் கருத வேண்டும்.

வேதம் அறிந்த ஒருவனுடன் 3 ஆண்டு வசித்தால் அவனை நண்பனாகக் கருத வேண்டும்.

சொந்தக்காரர்களை சிறிது காலத்துக்குள்ளேயே நண்பனாகக் கருத வேண்டும்.

 

ஒருவனுக்கு மரியாதை கொடுக்க பின்வரும் விஷயங்களை கருத்திற்கொள்க:-பணமுள்ளவனுக்கு மரியாதை கொடு; அதைவிட நண்பனுக்கும்,அதைவிட வயதுக்கும், அதைவிட நல்ல பணிசெய்பவனுக்கும்,   அதைவிட கல்விகற்றவனுக்கும் மரியாதை கொடுக்க வேண்டும்.

 

வேலைக்கரன் ஆனாலும் 90 வயதைக் கடந்து விட்டால் மரியாதை கொடுக்க வேண்டும்.

 

எதிரே வண்டியில் வருபவர்களுக்கும், 90 வயதைக் கடந்தவர்களுக்கும், நோயாளிக்கும், சுமை  தூக்குவோருக்கும், பெண்களுக்கும், வேத பண்டிதனுக்கும், மாப்பிள்ளைக்கும், அரசனுக்கும் விலகி நின்று வழிவிட வேண்டும். இவர்கள் எல்லோரும் வந்தால், அரசனுக்கும் வேத பண்டிதனுக்குமே முதல் மரியாதை.

 

அரசனும் வேத பண்டிதனும் ஒரே நேரத்தில் எதிரே வந்து விட்டால், வேத பண்டிதனுக்கே முதலில் வழிவிட வேண்டும்.

 

பெண்களுக்கும் வயதானோருக்கும் ஜாதி வேறு பாடின்றி மரியாதை கொடுக்கப்படுவது அந்தக்காலத்தில் பெண்களுக்கும் வயதுக்கும் இருந்த மரியாதையைக் காட்டுகிறது. மனு எவ்வளவு அளவு மனிதபிமானம் உடையவர், நல்ல சிந்தனை உடையவர் என்பதை இந்த இரண்டாம் அத்தியாய ஸ்லோகங்கள் (133- 139) காட்டுகின்றன.

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வீட்டிற்கு வந்த விருந்தாளிகள் வைஸ்யர்கள், சூத்திரகளாக இருந்தாலும் அவர்களை விருந்தினராக கருதி உணவளிக்க வேண்டும்

 

நண்பர்கள் வந்தால் மனையுடன் உட்கார்ந்து சாப்பிடலாம். விருந்தினர்கள் சாப்பிட்டவுடன் கர்ப்பிணிப் பெண்களையும், சிறு பெண்களையும் , புதுமணத் தம்பதிகளையும், நோயாளிகளையும் சாப்பிடச் சொல்ல வேண்டும்.

குடும்பத்திலுள்ள அத்தனை பேரும் சாப்பிட்ட பின்னரே கணவனும் மனைவியும் சாப்பிடலாம். (Manu 3- 111 to 118)

 

கர்ப்பிணிப் பெண்கள், கன்யாப் பெண்கள் மீது மனுவுக்கு எவ்வளவு மதிப்பு பாருங்கள்.

 

–Subham–

 

 

How many Law Books Hindus have? Why? (Post No.3102)

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Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 29 August 2016

 

Time uploaded in London: 13-41

 

Post No.3102

 

Pictures are taken from various sources; thanks for the pictures.

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India is the most civilized country in the world? How do we know it? What is the proof?

 

The proof lies in the OLD Law Books Hindus own. Law books are called ‘Smritis’ in Sanskrit.

Manu’s Law Book, known as Manu Smriti or Manava Dharma Sastra, is famous and notorious! Famous because that is the oldest law book, older than the Hammurabi Code of 2600 BCE. The subjects it deals with in 12 chapters in approximately 2700 couplets are wholesome and enormous. Manu has been referred to in the oldest book in the world- The Rig Veda. What we have today is only the latest updated version, because Narada Smriti says the original Manu Smriti contained 100,000 couplets like Mahabharata. It is notorious because of its caustic remarks about the lowest caste of India – the Shudras, which are later additions or interpolations. One who reads the whole book will come to this conclusion.

 

Is it the only law book that Hindus follow? No. Because the cunning and divisive foreigners translated this first to use against the Hindus, the world came to know about it. They knew that most of the Hindus are simpletons and believe whatever written in English by a white skinned man. They also knew Hindus are chatter boxes and talk about anything in the world without reading a single book in full. They also knew that Hindus are very catholic in their outlook and take whatever given to them without knowing that they are actually ‘time bombs’.

The Vedas are called Shruti i.e. that which is heard by the seers. They receive it like we receive different broadcasts or stations on radio. Next in order to Shruti in authority comes the SMRITI i.e. that which is remembered.

So let me tell you how many law books we have and why?

 

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(1).Manu Smriti (12 Chapters: 1.Origin of the Universe, 2.Duties of the Student, 3. Duties of the householder, 4.duties of the Snataka, 5.Food, impurities, Women 6.Forest dweller, Ascetic, 7.Duties of a King, 8.Administration of Civil and Criminal law, 9.Laws for husband and wife, laws of inheritance, Royal duties 10.rules of Four castes 11. Laws on penances, 12.Transmigration and Supreme Bliss.

(2).Yajnavalkya Smriti consists of 3 chapters (Adyayas) containing 1010 couplets (slokas): 1.Achara (conduct), 2.Vyavahara (Civil Law), 3.Prayaschita (Penance)

(3).Vishnu Smriti

(4).Narada Smriti

(5). Shankha Smriti

(6).Likhita Smriti

(7).Parasara Smriti

 

(8).Apastamba sutra

(9).Gautama sutra

(10).Vasishta sutra

(11).Baudhayana sutra

 

These books deal with Dharma (moral conduct rules). But there are books on economics such as Artha Shastra of Kautilya, Brihaspati Shastra, Sukra Niti which deals with punishments for economic offences. Several of the Law Books are lost.

There is a couplet in Sanskrit which says,

“The Laws of Manu are declared for the Krita Yuga, those of Yajnavalkya for the Treta Yuga; those of Shanka and Likhita are recommended for the Dwapara Yuga, those of Parashara are remembered for the Kali yuga (current yuga)”

Krute tu maavaa: proktaas tretaayaam yaajnavalkyajaa:

Dwaapare shankkalikhitaa: kalua paraasaraa: smrutaa:

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Manu smriti says:

“The Veda is known as Shruti, the Dharmashastras as Smriti: these should not be doubted (but carefully consulted and considered) in all matters, for from them Dharma arose.”

Shrutistu vedo vinjeyo dharmasaastram tu vai smruti:

Te sarvaartheshvamiimaasye tabhyaam dharmo hi nirbabhau

Manu 2-10

 

What do they indicate:

1.A community needs different codes of conduct to suit the needs of people living in different areas at different times

2.Change is inevitable; so introduce new books or update the old version; this is used by the foreigners to give a false date for each book.

3.Whenever Hindus met elders or seers they introduced themselves with their names, part of the Veda they are mastering and the Law Book/ Dharmasutra they are following. (For instance, I bow to the elders at my house saying I recite Yajur Veda and follow Apastamba Sutra)

4.Since no country in the world has so many law books during a span of 3000 years, and since nobody recites to his elders what law book he is following we have to accept that Hindus are more civilized and advanced in the area of codifying laws.

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–subham–

மனு ஸ்மிருதியில் மூன்று மர்மங்கள் – பகுதி 3 (Post No.3048)

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Research Article Written by london swaminathan
Date: 10th August 2016
Post No. 3048
Time uploaded in London :– 17-12
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மனு ஸ்மிருதியில் அதிசயச் செய்திகள்! – Part 3

உலகின் முதல் சட்டப் புத்தகமாகிய மனு ஸ்ம்ருதி யாருக்காக எழுதப்பட்டது, எப்போது எழுதப்பட்டது என்பதெல்லாம் அந்த நூலிலேயே நேரடியாகவும், மறைமுகமாகவும் சொல்லப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இதில் மூன்று மர்மங்கள் இருக்கின்றன: கங்கை நதி மர்மம், சரஸ்வதி நதி மர்மம், கறுப்பு மான் மர்மம்.
ஒவ்வொன்றாகக் காண்போம்.

மனு சொல்கிறார்:–
இரண்டு தெய்வீக நதிகளான சரஸ்வதி, த்ரிஷத்வதி ஆகியவற்றின் இடையே இறைவனால் உருவாக்கப்பட்ட பூமி பிரம்மாவர்த்தம் எனப்படும் (வேத பூமி)
மனு 2-17
வேத பூமியை அடுத்துள்ள குரு, மத்ஸ்ய, பாஞ்சால, சூரசேன நாடுகள் பிரம்மரிஷி தேசம் எனப்படும்.
மனு 2-19

 

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எனது கருத்து:–

ஜீவ நதியான சரஸ்வதியைக் குறிப்பிடுவதால் அவர் நீண்ட நெடுங்காலத்துக்கு முன் வாழ்ந்திருக்க வேண்டும். சரஸ்வதி ஆறு வற்றிப் போய் 5000 ஆண்டுகள் ஆகிவிட்டன. மேலும் கங்கை நதியை விட்டுவிட்டு வேறு இரண்டு நதிகளை தெய்வீக நதிகள் என்று சொல்லுவதிலிருந்து இந்த நூல் வேத கால நூல் என்று தெரிகிறது. மேலும் ஒரு அதிசயமான ஒற்றுமை அவர் சொல்லும் பூமிகள், சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரீக பூமியாகும். ஆக வேத காலமும், சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரீகமும் ஒன்று என்று கருத இடமுண்டு.

கீழைக்கடல் முதல் மேலைக் கடல் வரையுள்ள, இரண்டு மலைகளுக்கு (இமயமும்,விந்தியமும்) இடைப்பட்ட பூமி, ஆர்யாவர்த்தம் எனப்படும்.
மனு 2-22

(ஆர்ய என்ற சொல் பழந்தமிழ் இலக்கியத்திலும், சம்ஸ்கிருத நூல்களிலும் பண்பாடுடைய மக்கள், வடக்கில் இமய மலையில் வாழும் தவசீலர்கள் என்ற பொருளிலேயே பயன்படுத்தப் பட்டுள்ளது. இது கு றித்த எனது முந்தைய ஆராய்ச்சிக் கட்டுரைகளைக் காண்க)

எங்கு கிருஷ்ண மிருகம் எனப்படும் கறுப்பு மான்ன்கள் காணப்படுகின்றனவோ அந்த இடமெல்லாம் யாக யக்ஞங்கள் செய்வதற்குரிய பூமி. அதற்கப்பாலுள்ள இடமெல்லாம் மிலேச்சர் (வெளிநாட்டுக்காரர், பண்பாடற்றவர்) பூமி.
மனு 2-23

வெளிநாட்டினர் சதி:–
மனு ஸ்மிருதியை மொழிபெயர்த்த வெளிநாட்டுச் சதிகாரகளும், அரைவேக்காடுகளும் வேண்டும் என்றே ஆரிய, மிலேச்ச என்ற சொற்களை அப்படியே வைத்துக்கொண்டனர். ஏனெனில் இரண்டுக்கும் இப்போது கெட்ட, தவறான பொருள் கையாளப்படுகிறது. இதை வைத்து மக்களைக் குழப்பலாம் என்பது அவர்கள் செய்த சதி.
மிலேச்ச (யவன) என்பதை அராபியர், ரோமானியர், கிரேக்கர் என்ற பொருளிலேயே 2000 ஆண்டுப் பழமையான பழந்தமிழ் இலக்கியமும் அதற்கு முந்தைய சம்ஸ்கிருத இலக்கியமும் பயன்படுத்துவதை உரைகளிலும், முதல் நூல்களிலும் காணலாம் (மிலேச்ச/ யவனர் பற்றிய எனது முந்தைய ஆய்வுக்கட்டுரைகளில் ஆதாரங்கள் உள).

 

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கங்கை நதி மர்மம்

சங்க இலக்கியத்தில் கங்கயின் புனிதத்தை தமிழர்கள் போற்றுவர். இது 2000 ஆண்டுக்கு முந்தியது. ஆனால் மனுவோ கங்கையின் புனிதம் பற்றிப் பேசாமல் சரஸ்வதி நதியின் புனிதத்தைப் போற்றுகிறார். ஏன்?

சரஸ்வதி வற்றி, மறைந்து போன பின்னர்தான் கங்கையின் புகழ் பரவத் தொடங்கியது என்று கொள்ளலாம் அல்லது உலகின் முதல் நீரியல் விஞ்ஞானி, எஞ்சினீயர் பகீரதன் கங்கையை, இப்போதுள்ள கங்கைச் சமவெளிக்குப் திசை திருப்பிய பின்னர் அதன் புகழ் பரவி இருக்கலாம். அதற்கும் முந்தையது சரஸ்வதியும் வேத காலமும்.

பகீரதன் யார்?
ரிக் வேதம் குறிப்பிடும் வைவஸ்வத மனு எட்டாவது மனு. அவருக்கு அடுத்து வந்தவன் இக்ஷ்வாகு. அவனுடைய சூரிய குலத்தில் 54 ஆவது மன்னன் பகீரதன். மாபெரும் பொறியியல் வல்லுநன். பல மன்னர்கள், கங்கையை திசை திருப்பி நீர்ப்ப சனம் செய்ய முயன்றனர்; தோல்வியுற்றனர். ஆனல் பகீரதன் தனது எஞ்சினீயரிங் திறமையால கங்கையத் திசை திருப்பினான். இந்தியாவின் பழங்கால எஞ்சினீயர்கள் என்ற எனது ஆராய்ச்சிக் கட்டுரையில் முழு விவரம் காண்க.

இந்த பகீரதன் இட்சுவாகுவுக்கு 2000 ஆண்டுகளுக்குப் பின்னர் வந்தவன். அப்போதுதான் கங்கையின் பெருமை உலகிற்குத் தெரிந்தது என்றும் கொள்ளலாம். ஆக மனு , கங்கயின் பெயரைச் சொல்லா ததன் மர்மம் துலங்கிவிட்டது. மனுச் சக்ரவர்த்தி, பல்லாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன் வாழ்ந்தவன். இட்சுவாகுவோ சிந்து சம்வெளிக்கும் முன்னர் வாழ்ந்தவன். அதியமானை கரும்பு கொண்டுவந்தவனின் வழித்தோன்றல் என்று அவ்வையார் புகழ்வது ஏன்? என்ற எனது ஆராய்ச்சிக் கட்டுரையில் இது பற்றி விளக்கியுள்ளேன்.

 

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இரலை என்றும் கலைமான் என்றும் போற்றப்படும் கறுப்புமானுக்கு மனு கொடுக்கும் முக்கியத்துவம் வியப்புக்குரியது. அது இருக்கு மிடத்தில்தான் இந்துக்கள் வாழலாம் என்கிறார். ஆனால் கறுப்பு மானோ இன்றும் இந்தியா, நேபாளம் ஆகிய இடங்களில் உள்ளது ஆக தமிழ் நாடும் யாக பூமியே, வேத பூமியே. பல் யாக சாலை முது குடுமிப் பெருவழுதி, ராஜசூயம் வேட்ட பெரு நற்கிள்ளி முதலிய தமிழ் மன்னர்கள் இதற்கு எடு த்துக்காட்டு.

இதைவிட அதிசயம்! சிந்து சமவெளியில் இந்த வகை மானின் எலும்புகள் கா ப்படுகின்றன. வேத கால முனிவர்கள் இதை ஆஸ்ரமங்களில் வளர்த்ததை புற நானூறும், காளிதாசன் காவியங்களும் விதந்து
ஓதுகின்றன. ஆகவே சிந்து சமவெளியில் வேத முனிவர்கள் ஆசிரமங்களை வைத்து மான்களை வளர்த்தமையும் வெள்ளிடை மலையென விளங்கும்!
–Subham–