DATE OF RIG VEDA THROUGH SOLAR ECLIPSE-3000 BCE (Post No.4470)

Compiled by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 8 DECEMBER 2017 

 

Time uploaded in London-  8–14 am

 

 

Post No. 4470

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SRI UMAPADA SEN OF CALCUTTA HAS ESTABLISHED THE DATE OF RIG VEDA AROUND 3000 BCE IN HIS BOOK THE RIGVEDIC ERA. HE SUPPORTS THE VIEW OF A. LUDWIG WHO ALSO APPRECIATED THE VEDIC HINDUS’ AMAZING KNOLEDGE ABOUT HEAVENLY BODIES.

 

Here is a summary of Umapada Sen’s article (part of his book):

Solar eclipses narrated in the Veda cannot be overlooked. In passage 10-138-4 of the Rig Veda, it is said Indra ‘maseva suryo vasu puryam adade’. this means it was the sun that was eclipsed, for the words ‘ vi suryo Madhya amuchat rathevam divah’ in the preceding verse point clearly to a solar eclipse.

Ludwig’s observation about the attitude of some persons always ready to defame the Veda and the Vedic Indians is worth noticing. He says, “such narrations in other texts ( he quotes other texts) do not appear doubtful, but such expressions when found in the Rig Veda are quite doubtful and many critics regard it as extremely doubtful. There should be no doubt any further, by all events it is not lunar but solar eclipse”.

“Compare RV 4-28-2. There Indra is said to have eclipsed the sun (somena, induna, by the moon). Prof. Willibrandt in his book on Vedic mythology has elaborately and extensively demonstrated that there is never any reason for disbelieving that Soma was Chandramas/Moon.

 

“The eclipse of ‘svarvanu’ has no relation with the clouds. Svarvanu, etymologically taken designates him whose light is the sun or sun’s. This is no other than the moon. We can accurately frame the translation of RV 5-40-6 …….”

 

In the mantra it is said that “Thou, Oh Indra, hadst hurled down by means f svarvanu’s witcheries spreading down from heaven, Atri by means of the fourth brahma has found out the hidden sun”.

 

Atri had to utter four Rik verses and by that time the eclipse subsided. This was the time taken by total solar eclipse!

 

The ‘Svarvanu after 3000 years turned out to be Rahu in the Vishnu Purana after it had lost the etymological meaning. (For the laymen, they gave a story of snake devouring moon or sun and in course of the time the original  view forgotten)

Ludwig further gives a detailed account of Hindu tradition and praises the accuracy of observations.

 

Attempts for determining the date of the Rig Veda through astronomy by Ludwig, Jacobi and B G Tilak amply proved their intimate acquaintance with the Vedic literature.

 

Antares (star Jyeshta or Kettai in Tamil) or Indra was called Jyeshtagni meaning one who commences the New Year (must be sidereal in this case).

Ludwig says, “Vedic priests were aware of moon’s borrowing light from the sun. That the ancient Hindus had a correct notion of the orbits of sun and moon, that their ability to account for the phenomenon of eclipses is absolutely out of doubt and the part assigned to Indra is interesting in a double point of view, and be it noted here that ADRI in the Veda often stands for a node that hurts the weaker Soma (moon) when he passes it, and not always for a stone to pierce Soma plants.”

Ludwig’s vivid narrations of the solar eclipses, wherein times without number he mentions of Indra’s peculiar function, must be carefully noted. Vedic narrations invariably connect Indra with the eclipses. In RV 10-138-4, Indra forces sun to unyoke the horses. It simply means sun was forced to lose his rays when it was just over or near Antares (star). The entire hymn 5-40 describes the eclipse in greater details. It, therefore, appears that two solar eclipses, of which one was definitely total, took place during the Vedic period on dates very near autumnal equinoxes that were visible from Indian latitude 28-32 N and longitude 68-74 E of Greenwich, so as to give an impression to the onlookers that Indra was competent to cause solar eclipses. (Indra= star Antares)

 

Umapada Sen believes the word Suhanta for thunder in 7-30-2 was a comet. He says that the 27 stars, five planets, sun and moon were the Rig Vedic Devas.

Antares and Sun

The scanning of the Rig Vedic revelations does reveal to us that Indra (star Antares) was privileged to enjoy the close company of the sun and as such the date when the particular star Antares was enjoying autumnal equinoxes bears the all-important connection with the Rig Vedic period.

When Umapada sen approached Indian observatories to find out the equinox position of Antares, and they were not helpful. But Greenwich and Hamburg observatories have promptly responded with requisite assistance and Dr Brian G Marsden of Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, USA has very kindly favoured him by undertaking the desired calculations.

Dr Marsden writes to say, “The date when a. Scorpi  (Antares) was at ecliptic longitude 180 degree is around 2990 BCE”. The Vedic hymns were composed in earlier periods do reveal that around 3000 BCE, Indra (star Antares) had actually clutched on the thunder (comet) that impressed the Vedic singers as to the massive stature of his weapon.

The date of the solar eclipse near about the autumnal equinox visible from 30 degee  N Indian latitude calculated by expert astronomers is between 3000 BCE and 2800 BCE.

 

Umapada sen concludes the article with a tribute to the Vedic seers, “The Rig Veda is not a code of ethics, a book of morals, a bunch of liturgical exhortations, a bundle of idle speculations, a product of utter frustration or a text with meaningless jargons. It is a collection of sincere invocations, the spontaneous out pouring of the heart of the earliest poets, ovations to the Devas, the stellar gods, wherein the celebrations by and by engulf a vast sphere of sublime religious thought and a true record of intellectual growth and material progress attained by a group of human souls in a corner of the earth well before 3000 BCE.”

 

My comments

It is interesting to see that Vedic poets used a particular style of language or symbolism to express facts. The Brahmanas and the Vedas say that the gods like mysterious language (RV 4-3-16). Though our sees calculated the time of eclipses scientifically and accurately, they told the laymen some interesting stories about the snake Rahu devouring moon or sun to describe the eclipse. Here Atri utters four verses or mantras and the hidden sun came out, says the Vedic hymn. I think that is the time taken for the total eclipse of the sun.

 

Even today we are thrilled to read about the total eclipse of the sun in newspapers. My London neighbour spent 1000 pounds to see the solar eclipse in America. So even when Vedic Hindus knew what is an eclipse Atri might have told them “wait till I finish the four mantras and you will see the sun out. Like our astronomers tell us that the sun will be in full eclipse between this minute and this minute, Atri might have told his disciples, that before I finish the fourth mantra the sun will be out. If a solar eclipse is an astronomical wonder for us today, it would, definitely, have been a wonder for a Vedic Hindu 5000 years ago.

 

The second point I would like to make is that Vedic language is very difficult. Only those who are well versed in Astronomy can figure out the meaning of certain mantras. Sometime ago I posted Ornithologist K N Dave’s view of a mantra where in seven sisters meant actually birds. But even Sayana who lived just 600 years ago could not give the correct meaning. Because Dave was an ornithologist, he could understand what our seers said. Yaska who lived at least 2800 years before our time could not understand hundreds of words. That shows Vedas were very ancient, more ancient than we thought until today. Now our job is to reinterpret all the mantras with a panel of experts from every walk of life or profession and present both Sayana’s and the new interpretations. We must discard all foreigners’ writings.

 

Now that we know the Vedic civilization existed before Indus Valley civilization through scientific research of Sarasvati river and through the astronomical research, we must rewrite Indian history ASAP.

 

–Subham–

 

 

SIX DOORS TO BRAHMAN (Post No.4338)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 26 October 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 16-31

 

 

Post No. 4338

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Brahmana literature in prose which followed the poems in Vedas have many mysteries like the Vedas. A lot of research—rather than research—intuition of great saints will help us to understand the mysteries.

 

Here are some curious passages from the Satapata Brahmana:

“There are six doors to Brahma(n), viz. Agni, Vayu, the Waters, the Moon, Lightning (Indra) and the Sun. He who sacrifices with a burnt offering arrives by Agni, as the door to Brahma; and having so arrived, he attains to a union with Brahma and abides in the same sphere with him.

 

 

“When he performs the Viasvadeva offerings, then he becomes Agni and attains union with Agni and to co-existence in his world…. and when he performs the Sakha-medha offerings, then he becomes Indra and attains to union with Indra and to co-existence in his world – Satapata Brahmana 2-6-4-8

A man who reads the Vedas in a particular manner is “freed from dying again and attains to a sameness of nature with Brahma. Even if he cannot recite with much power, let him read one sentence relating to the gods”– Satapata Brahmana 9-5-6-9

“The man who knows this, that the sun never sets, enjoys union and sameness of nature with him and abides in the same sphere—Aitareya Brahmana3-4-4

DOOR TO HEAVEN

In the Sat.Brah(6-6-2-4), it is said that the door of heaven (Swarga Loka) is situated in the north-eastern regions; while by that which the heaven of the Fathers is entered lies to the south-east (13-8-1-5).

 

In a legend in Sat.Brah (11-6-1-6), it is related that Bhrigu, son of Varuna, visited, by his father’s command, the four points of the compass, where he saw men being cut into piece and eaten by other men, who when questioned by Bhrigu, declared they were revenging on their victims the treatment which they had received at their hands in the other world (earth). These victims are allegorically explained in the Brahmana as representing the trees, animals, plants and waters employed in sacrifice.

The idea of rebirth or transmigration of soul is in our Upanishads and Brahmanas.

“The spring, assuredly comes to life again out of the winter, for out of the one the other is born again; therefore he who knows this is indeed born again in the world -1-5-3-14

 

The Mahabharata gives the stories of previous births of several individuals. The Puranas are all replete with such stories. The idea of re-incrnation is one which lives deep in the Hindu mind. Hindu philosophers have held this doctrine for ages past, and the chief object which the Hindu shastras have in view is, is to obtain emancipation from the series of Re incarnations which every soul by its actions, is heir to . Every Hindu believes in the doctrine and our females are not behind in their beliefs.

According to a very ancient conception, the soul ascends to the abodes of the blessedon the wings of the air, of the wind, having itself changd into an aerial from.

“Whoever departs from this world, knowing this, goes with his voice to fire (Agni), with his eye to the Sun (Aditya), with his mind (manas) to the moon (Soma) with his ear to the regions, with his breath (prana) to the wind (Vayu). Having attained the nature of these and become any one of these deities that he desires, he rests (10-3-3-8)

When the voice of the departed soul goes to fire, his breath to the wind, his eye to the sun, his mind to the moon, his hearing to the regions, his body to the earth, his soul to the ether, the hairs of his head to the trees, his blood and his seminal fluid to the waters  — Where then is the spirit?(15-6-2-13)

 

The rays of him who shines (the Sun) are the pious. The ligt which is above is Prajapati or the heavenly world (1-9-3-10)

The stars are the lights of the practisers of holy acts who go to heaven (6-5-4-8)

 

The earth is macrocosm and our body is microcosm is developed from this. Greeks copied it from us.

 

The stars are the lights of the holy people is in Vana Parva of Mahabharata as well.

 

–Subham–

 

Positive thoughts help! (Post No 2655)

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Compiled by london swaminathan

 

Date: 22 March 2016

 

Post No. 2655

 

Time uploaded in London :– 17-20

 

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The God Indra, travelling one day through a forest, came upon a penitent who, during long terms of meditation and self-castigation, had almost changed himself into a tree stump.

(Penitent = a person who repents for his/her sins)

How long must I yet practise that I may be free, he asked the God SADLY.

Ten more years, said Indra.

Ten whole years? Sighed the sage, and for this complaint, was at once precipitated into hell.

 

Wandering on Indra came upon another penitent. This one was of slight spirituality and hoped to attain salvation by dancing around a tree. He asked the God the same question; but he asked them CHEERFULLY, in the midst of his dancing.

 

It will take you a hundred thousand years, said Indra smiling.

The foolish penitent gave a skip and hop

Only hundred thousand years!

And no sooner had the shout of joy left his lips than he rocketed up to heaven, a liberated soul.

 

Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita (6-5)

“Let a man lift himself by himself; let him not degrade himself; for the Self  (Atma) alone  is the friend of the self and the Self alone is the enemy of the self.”

–subham-

 

Islamic Militants destroyed ‘Indra Temple ‘ in Syria ?

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Baal Shamin in Palmyra, Syria

Research Article No. 2098
Written by London swaminathan
Date : 25 August  2015
Time uploaded in London :–  16-18

Newspapers around the world have flashed the news of destruction of the temple of Baal Shamin in Palmyra, Syria. Those who read about the attributes to Baal Shamin can easily see the similarities between Baal Shamin and the Vedic God Indra.

First of all, we must remember that Syria and Turkey were ruled by the Hindus once. We already know that the oldest archaeological evidence for Vedic Gods came from Bogazkoy in Turkey. We also know the Sanskrit names of Kings Dasaratha, Pratardhana etc who ruled Mitannian empire in the Middle East. All of them existed before 1400 BCE.

Baal = Sanskrit “Paala” = protect, rule, maintain

Baal is a common Semitic noun that means ‘lord’ or ‘owner’, but it occurs quite frequently in ancient texts as the proper name of an important god. Baal was one of the widely known deities in the west Semitic pantheon. He was associated with aspects of the natural world that were central to agriculture and society.

All these attributes are similar to Indra’s. We add Indra with lot of words such as Rajendra (Tamil Choza king), Khagendra (King of birds eagle), Mrgendra (King of Beasts Lion), Nagendra (King of Snakes) etc. Baal is cognate to Paala in Sanskrit meaning protector, maintainer, ruler, Lord etc. We have Go+pala, Indra pala, Raja pala.

In short Indra, Pala, Baal – all mean Ruler, Chief, Lord and one who maintains. Like Hindus add Pala or Indra or Eswar (Lord) with all local Gods, Middle East people added Baal with all the local gods. Baal Hadad was the most popular one.

Like we used Indra to mention a particular deity or used it as suffix to many more, they used ball as local manifestations of the god (Eg. Baal Sidon, Baal Shamin, Baal Hermon, Baal Peor), but it was also used in its general sense to refer to other deities as well.

For example, Lord Shiva has over 300 different names in Tamil Nadu towns (Sundareswar in Madurai, Ekambareswar In Kanchi, Brhadeswar in Thanjavur). Similarly goddess Parvati has 300 different names in Tamil Nadu temples (E.g.Meenakshi in Madurai, Visalakshi in Kasi, Kamakshi in Kancheepuram, Neelayathakshi in Nagappatinam and so on)

Baal appears in Near Eastern texts in 3000 BCE, but he was best known from his prominent role in Ugaritic Literature (1250 BCE). The latter contains over 500 references to Ball, who was said to live on Mount Sapnu/Zaphon, north of Ugarit. It is like Mount Meru or Mount Kailash of Hindu literature.

Bible links Ball with Goddess Ashtoreth (Ishtar=Durga)

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Ball =Thunder God = Indra

Throughout the Ancient Near East, Ball was viewed as a Thunder God like Vedic Indra. He was associated with thunder, clouds, lightning and rain like Vedic Indra. As a Canaanite deity of weather and fertility, he was linked with the annual return of vegetation, similar to Indra Festival.  From Nepal to Tamil Nadu, Indra Festival was celebrated 2000 years ago every year. Now Nepal and South East Asian countries only celebrate this as Water Festival every year.

According to Ugaritic mythology Baal has to fight with his brothers Yam (sea) and Mot (death) for supremacy. Like Baal is a cognate to Sanskrit word ‘Paala’ (ruler, lord, maintainer) Yam is cognate to Sanskrit word Thoyam (water) and Mot is cognate to Sanskrit word Mrtyu (which gave birth to English words mortal, immortal etc).

Till the spread of Christianity in the 3rd or 4th century, Baal was worshipped. In numerous passages the Bible records a long term, intense animosity towards Baal and those who worshipped this deity (eg. Numbers 25; Judges 6; I Kings 18; Hosea 2 in the Bible). Later Baal’s attributes merged with Yahweh (Psalm 68:4) where Yahweh was said to ride on the clouds and to manifest his power into thunderstorm (Psalm 29).

In short, the concept of Nature God found in Rig Veda, the oldest literature in the world, spread to various parts of the Middle East and took its own forms in the course of 2000 years.

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Palmyra Temple destroyed by Islamic Terrorists!

 

Baal Shamin was built in 17 AD in Palmyra and it was expanded under the reign of Roman emperor Hadrian in 130 AD.

Known as the “Pearl of the desert”, Palmyra, which means City of Palms, is a well-preserved oasis 210 kilometres (130 miles) northeast of Damascus.

Its name first appeared on a tablet in the 19th century BC as a stopping point for caravans travelling on the Silk Road and between the Gulf and the Mediterranean.

But it was during the Roman Empire — beginning in the first century BC and lasting another 400 years — that Palmyra rose to prominence.

Before the arrival of Christianity in the second century, Palmyra worshipped the trinity of the Babylonian god Bel, as well Yarhibol (the sun) and Aglibol (the moon).

Baal Samin was first mentioned in a treaty between the Hittite king Suppiluliuma and Nigmadu II of Ugarit. His epithets include Lord Of Eternity. He leads the list of deities like the Vedic God Indra. By Hellenic times he was equated with Zeus in the Greek pantheon and Caelus (sky) in the Roman pantheon. Zeus is Indra according to several scholars.

Why did Sumeria and Egypt worship Indra?

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Indra in Vientaine, Laos (South East Asian country)

Research Paper written by London Swaminathan
Post No.1288; Dated:14th September 2014.

Indra is the oldest God in the world worshipped until today. There are over 100,000 temples in India and millions of Brahmins all over the world. In all these places we hear Indra’s name every day. Children are named after Indra or his wife Indrani (Saci) from Nepal to Sri Lanka and all over South East Asia.

I have written umpteen articles on Indra creating an Encyclopaedia of Indra to dispel the false notion spread by foreign ‘scholars’. He is NOT an “Aryan” God from Central Asia or Siberia. He is a Hindu god from India travelling to different parts of the world. In my previous article, I published the pictures of Laos and Mongolia stamps on Indra.

My conclusion is Indra is not one person. It is a title like KING or a LEADER. Indra is also used for GOD. In ancient Hindu India, kings were considered God. We see it in the Rig Veda and 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature.

This article gives more proof to show that Indra was worshipped as God in Egypt, Sumer and Greece.

Indra referred to a title is confirmed by Mahabharata (Santi Parva, Chapter 224) and Vayu Purana (64-6-9). While Vayu Purana allocated 14 Indras for 14 Manvanataras, Mahabharata said that there were thousands of Indras in the past (See Indra in Indian Mythology by Muralidhar Mohanty for more details).

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Wooden Sculpture of Indra and Saci from Nepal.

Foreign ‘scholars’ who did not study Tamil Tolkappiam or Mahabaharta made wrong statements that one Indra killed more than 30 demons in the Rig Veda. In fact they were not demons. Indra ‘s most celebrated episode is about killing a Brahmin !!!

We know for sure from the oldest Tamil book Tolkappaiam that Tamils worshiped the Vedic deity Indra. We know that Vedic Hindus gave top place to Indra in their worship. He is praised more than anyone else in the Vedas. But Indra worship did not stop there. Even Iranians, Sumerians, Egyptians and Greeks worshipped Indra! In their languages Indra meant The God!

In Egypt:
In Egypt “ntr” meant God. The hieroglyph ‘ntr’ meaning god is derived from a staff bound with cloth. This is Indra Dwaja (Flag of Indra) found in Ramayana and Tamil literature. Tamil epic Silappadikaram describes the Indra festival and Indra flag in great detail. Many of the ancient languages never write vowels. We have to insert vowels before reading it. “Ntr” will become Intra, if we introduce vowels into them.

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Indra Festival in Nepal

3000 Gods in Sumeria

More than 3000 deities’ names have been recovered from Mesopotamia alone. These were organised by the Mesopotamians into groups resembling households, extended families or states (See Dictionary of the Ancient Near East published by The British Museum for more details).

In Avesta, Andira meant Indra and in Tamil Andiran meant Indra. I explain them below; Indra is mentioned in a two places in Zend Avesta.

In Sumeria Andara is Indra ( See page 147 of the ‘India We have Lost’)
Laos has issued stamps for Indra and Mongolia has issued stamps for Vajrayudha! Indra’s name is found all over the world in names like Andrew etc.

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ANTARES = INDRA

Of the 27 stars, Jyeshta is one. Greeks named the star Antares, i.e Indra. In Hindu scriptures the Devata/deity for Anatres is Indra! Hindus called this red star as Jyeshta meaning ‘the eldest’. This is another proof to show that Greek name Anatres and Indra are one and the same. (Among the goddesses also there is one Jyeshta). Scholars who did not know linked Antares with Ares (Mars) without any rhyme or reason!

There is another proof from ancient Sangam Tamil literature. Oldest book Tolkappiam called Indra with the name “Vendhan” meaning The King. But Sangam Tamil literature and later books like Tirukkural used Sanskrit word Indra. But not many people know that Andiran in Sanagam Tamil literature is also Indra.

There are two verses (240 and 241) in Purananuru sung by a Brahmin woman Uraiyur Enicheri Mudamosi. She composed many poems in praise of Ay Andiran, a Tamil chieftain. Only three poets used this word Andiran — all meaning chieftain Ay Andiran.

Miss Mudomosi gives us two vital facts:

1.When Ay Andiran died his wives burnt themselves in the funeral pyre. This custom known as “Sati” was practised more in the north from the Mahabharata days. But it was not compulsory. Even in the Mahabharata days, Pandava’s mother Kunti did NOT die in funeral pyre after Pandu’s death. Dasaratha’s wives did NOT die after Dasaratha’s death as well. There are two more references to Sati in Tamil literature, which I have already dealt with.

2.When Ay Andiran died Indra’s temple drums started playing loudly to welcome him! Miss Mudamosi described very clearly “Vajara Thadakkai Nediyon Koyil” meaning the “Temple of God one who wields the weapon Vajra/thunderbolt”. Why did she suddenly mention Indra welcoming her in the heaven? This is because Andiran meant Indra. Ayu/Ay is also found throughout Mahabharata and the Puranas (Hindu Mythlogy)

Ay Andiran’s forefathers came from Dwaraka of Krishna. He belonged to Velir clan which was brought to Tamil Nadu by Agastya 3000 years ago — around 1000 BCE. Another Brahmin poet of Sangam age Kapila gave this information in Purananuru verse 201.

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Indra Festival in Nepal

Indra in the Indus Valley Civilization
The Rig-Veda identifies Indra with the bull which is the predominant seal in Indus valley civilisation. So we can conclude that Indra worship prevailed in the Indus Valley.

Indra’s vehicle is an elephant known as Airavata which is a predominant animal in Indus valley civilization. No other ancient civilization has elephant figure or association of an elephant with any ancient god. This is a very clear proof to show that Indra is an Indus God and not a foreigner from central Asia or Siberia. I have already explained the elephant and the standing figure with a wheel above, on an Indus tablet is Indra.
He is the god of the direction “East” which shows that he belongs to India and not a foreign god from the “West”.

His wife Indrani is the daughter of Asura Puloman which shows that Asuras belonged to one and the same race, belying Aryan – Dravidian racist theory. She is also known as Paulomi and Aindri. Andiran is Indra and Aindri is Indrani.

The English name Andrew and Andreas all came from Indra. Later new explanations were added by struggling foreign “Scholars”!!!

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Indra Jatra in Nepal. This was celebrated in ancient Tamil Nadu.

Afghans worship Indra!
Indra and Imra are worshipped as Kafir gods in Afghanistan. The place where he was worshiped was called Kafiristan. He is worshiped in Waigal, Prasun areas of Hindukush and in Nuristan.

Indra is identified with Zeus of Greece,Thor of Norse Jupiter of Romans and Taranis of Celts.

Please read my earlier research papers on Indra:
1.Encyclopedia of Indra (Posted on 7th Sept. 2014)
2. Indra-Thor-Taranis in Indus Valley Civilization (5th Sept. 2014)
3. Oldest Engineer in the World –Indra: A Dam Buster or a Dam Builder? (4th Sept. 2014)

4).Why did Indra kill Brahmins? – (posted on 25 May 2014).
5).How many people did Indra kill? (17th July 2014)
6).Do you know Indra? (14th July 2014)
7).Indus Valley – Brahmin Connection (10th May 2014)
8).Indus Valley Case: Lord Indra Acquitted (28 December 2013)
9).Indra in the Oldest Tamil Book
10). Indra Festival in the Vedas and Tamil Epics
11).Vishnu in Indus Valley
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Mongolia Stamp on Vajrayudha

Most of these articles are available in Tamil also. Indra is mentioned in all my articles on Aryan Dravidian ‘Racist’ Theory.

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How Many People did Indra Kill?

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Written by London Swaminathan
Post No. 1178; Dated 17th July 2014.

Foreign “scholars” have been fooling Indians for nearly 300 years because they know that lot of Hindus never read anything Hindu in original, for instance 20,379 Vedic Verses or 24,000 verses of Valmiki Ramayana or 100,000 verses of Mahabharata 800,000 verses of the Puranas. It is very easy to cheat the Hindus. So anyone can quote any of these verses and write anything they wanted. Whenever they touch anything Hindu their imagination runs riot. They won’t do it in the case of other religions because they know the serious repercussions. Moreover what other religions have got is very little. If Hindu scriptures are Pacific Ocean, theirs is just a small lake. It is no way of belittling their holiness or their importance. It is just a quantitative analysis.

Archaeological evidence for Indra and other Vedic Gods are available from 1400 BCE. Indra is mentioned in the Bogazkoy inscription in 1400 BCE in Turkey (150 kms from Ankara). He was worshipped even before this date in India. He is mentioned a few times in Zend Avesta as well.

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Indra has got more than forty names in the Vedic literature. He is mentioned in 300 hymns in the Rig Veda, the oldest scripture in the world. No hero or God in the world had so much coverage around 1200 BCE, the date given to Rig Veda by most of the scholars. But Hindus believe that Vedas are timeless, ageless with no beginning or no end. It is there forever and seers can catch those hymns like we catch (tune in) radio waves/broadcasts. Great Hindu philosophers Shankara, Ramanuja and Madhwa and commentators like Sayana approached it differently. They never mentioned Arya, Dravida, Munda, Mongoloid, Caucasian etc. Because they are not in the Vedas!

Word Arya occurs 34 times in the Rig Veda. It is not used with racial connotation. Dravida or Munda is not there. If I say educated or uneducated, cultured or not cultured, Hindus or Non Hindus there is no racial meaning. They used Arya to mean cultured, respectful etc. Dasas or Dasyus were criticized. Even Tulsidas and Kalidas called themselves Dasas! So we have to judge after reading the book in its entirety. Last hymn of the Rig Veda summarises beautifully well its purpose (Please see “Vedic Hymn – Better than National Anthems” for more details, posted on April 17, 2014).

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Just to show how foreigners are deceiving Hindus, I have given below some mind boggling numbers concerning Indra and other Gods; In all these originals they insert words like ‘Non Aryan’, ‘Munda’, ‘Dravidian’, ‘Foreign’, ‘Iranian’ according to their whims and fancies or their concocted theories. They will hide facts like Indra’s greatest achievement was killing the “Brahmins” Trisiras and Vritra, Indra’s wife Saci was an “Asura” lady. If they reveal the words Brahmin, Asura, all their racist theories will crumble into dust. So they will tell you only half truths, which are more dangerous than lies.

I would recommend to anyone to take one Vedic hymn and see what each and every foreign, non Hindu “scholar” interprets it. I have been doing it for forty years and enjoying the Best Jokes. I would recommend in particular the book “Minor Vedic Deities”. The author (J R Joshi) has listed beautifully well the interpretations of all the western “scholars” for every minor deity. They will leave you in utter confusion. If their interpretations don’t fit their concocted theories, they will interpret them as natural phenomena!!!

Tamils are the people who fought among themselves for 1500 years without stoppage. Chera, Choza and Pandya, the three Tamil Kings killed each other and destroyed their forts. But nobody inserted any racist theories among the three. Foreigners, particularly, Christian missionaries, thought they could easily fool them because of their dark skin and convert them. But Tamils disappointed them! The lesson is: Not all the fights are racist; not all the wars are racist. They simply fought to show they were “heroic”. Those who read Sangam Tamil literature (Purananuru) will understand this.

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Indra, the greatest Hero:

Indra killed Dhuni, Chumuri (RV 6-20).
Indra killed Tugra and Vetasu; He killed 100,000 people; killed Shambara on the mountains (RV 6-26)
Indra killed Chumuri and 60,000 enemies (RV 6-26)
Indra killed Kulitara’s son Shambara and crushed 100,000 varcins (RV 4-30)
Indra killed 10,000 Vritra (RV 1-53)
Indra killed 150 soldiers (RV 1-133)

Indra killed Arna, Chitraratha on the banks of Sarayu (RV 4-30)
Indra broke the mountain to release the captivated water (RV 2-11)
Indra found out Shambara after 40 years in the mountain hide-outs (RV 2-11)
Indra killed Vala, Brahmin Vritra and Demon Ahi who captivated the waters (RV 2-11)
Indra freed the dragon and released Seven Rivers (RV 2-12)
Indra subdued Kings Kutsa, Athigva and Ayu(RV 2-14)
Indra destroyed Shambara’s 100 ancient Puras (forts/castles/cities) (RV 2-14;1-53)
Indra killed Dhribika, Urana, Arbuda, Shushna, Pipru, Namuci, Rudhikra (RV 2-14)

standing indra - sandstone - madhya pradesh - singapore

Indra breaks the cave of Vala, rich in cows. (RV 1-11)
Indra smites Dasa and opens the caves where cows were imprisoned (RV 1-32)
Indra scattered Dasa and Dasyus (RV 1-53;5-3-34)
Indra killed Parnaya, Karanja (RV 1-53)
Indra broke the forts of Sushna, Shambara, Kuyava (RV 1-103)
Indra shattered 90 forts of Puru and brought Shambara from the mountains (RV 1-130; 3-12-6)

Indra’s Wife an Asura woman!

Indra’s wife is Saci devi, the daughter of a Daitya (asura) chief Puloma.
Jains have 64 Indras and 22 Devis.

indra-mathura-sculpture-with airavata (gupta period)

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Indra in the oldest Tamil Book

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I think this INDUS seal portrays Indra on Airavata.

Indra is the most popular Vedic God. Indra is the most popular Tamil God according to the oldest Tamil book Tolkappiam. Tolkappiar wrote this grammatical treatise around 1st century BC. He lists all the four important Vedic Gods INDRA, VARUNA, VISHNU and SKANDA (another form of AGNI) as Gods of four Tamil Lands. Tolkaapiam was launched in the assembly of a Pandya king and Acharya of Athankodu gave the seal of approval according to Panamparanar, disciple of Agastya & Tolkappiar. Acharya of Athankodu was praised as a great scholar in all the four Vedas.

 

Tolkappiar was not the only one who praised Indra. We see Indra throughout Tamil literature. Sangam Tamil literature mentions his name in several places and the heaven under Indra is mentioned in innumerable places. Pura Nanauru, Tirukkural and Tamil epics did not miss his name.

 

People who don’t know Tamil or Tamil literature think Tamils had a different culture which is not true. There are some special aspects of Tamil culture and it is same with every nook and corner of the country. Britain, where I live is a small country; exactly the area of one state in India (Andhra Pradesh) and it has got almost similar population of Andhra Pradesh. But there are four cultures English, Welsh, Irish and Scottish. Irish and Scottish are fighting for separate countries. No wonder India which is the seventh largest country in the world, with the second highest population in the world, show different aspects in different parts.

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Indra riding Airavata, Laos

Indra was out and out an Indian god. Throughout Indian literature he is depicted as riding an elephant. Elephant is an Indian animal and tropical animal. But people, who claimed themselves “scholars”, spread all sorts of lies about Indra to confuse and divide Indians.

 

Tamil are very fond of Indra. Even today they have Indra’s name such as Rajendra, Mahendra, Balendra,Gajendra,Vijayendra etc.

As a matter of fact from the northern most Kashmir to the southernmost Kandy in Sri Lanka, we see Indra’s name everywhere.

 

Following references from the Tamil books will prove my argument:

Tol.Porul.1 to 5 says

The land of forests desired by Mayon (Vishnu), The land of hills desired by Seyon (Reddish Skanda), the land of sweet waters desired by the King (Indra) and the land of wide sand desired by Varunan. The land divisions are respectively called Mullai, Kurinji, Marutham and Neithal. Indra was the God of cultivated lands and irrigated fields. Indra is always associated with water in the Vedas. He was the one who released water by killing Vritra. Tolkappiar was a genius and he translated Indra as King (Venthan in Tamil). There are innumerable Indras in the Hindu scriptures. But some people falsely attributed all these things to one Indra. Tolkappiar used the common noun king.

 

Purananuru verse 182

Ilamperu Vazuthi sings about the great qualities of Tamils in Puram verse 182. He says that even if Indra’s Amrita is offered one would not eat alone. This is a clar reflection of Bhagavad Gita verse 3-13. I have already given this in my post Bhagavad Gita in Purananuru in Tamil. So Indra’s Amrita was known to every Tamil.

Puram 241

Tamils and other Hindus believed that soldiers who sacrifice their lives defending the country will go straight to heaven under the rule of Indra. This is also in Bhagavad Giat which I have already explained in my post. Enicheri Mudamosiyar sings about Chieftain’s Ay’s death. Indra is waiting to welcome the hero to his world, says the poet. I have a feeling that Ay’s real name is AYendran or Ajendran. His name Andiran is cognate with Indira in Sanskrit and Andrew in English.

 

Indra-Ahalya Painting!

Another beautiful verse gives very interesting details about a painting of Indra in the disguise of a cat when he came to molest Gautama Rishi’s wife Ahalya. Paripatal verse 19 describes this story with three Sanskrit names Indra, Gautama and Ahalya. This painting in Tirupparankundram near Madurai attracted a big crowd and the poet overheard the conversation and put it in his poem! Indra’s stories were so popular in Tamil Nadu 2000 years ago. The Indra festival is described in minute details in the great epic Silappadikaram.

 

Paripatal verses and Tirumurukatrup patai verse gives a variety of mythological stories by one or two lines.

Tituvalluvar uses the story Indra and Ahalya to illustrate that seers are greater than Indra when it comes to the control of senses (Kural 25)

In 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature we come across Sanskrit word Amruta (ambrosia) in many places which is available in Indra loka (heaven of Indra). The Sanskrit word Amrita is used in more than thirty verses in Sangam literature.

 

Rainbow is known as Indra Dhanush (Indra’s bow) in Tamil and Sanskrit literature.

Vashista’s wife Arundhati, Amrita, Indra and Four Vedas were used by Tamil poets in hundreds of places. Tamils were thorough with the Hindu Mythology. Tripura Dhanam of Shiva, destruction of buffalo demon by the goddess, Shiva’s poison episode etc were household things in ancient Tamil Nadu. In short there is no Tamil book without a Sanskrit word—from Tolkappiam to Bharathiar of our time. There is no Tamil work without a reference to Hindu god or mythology. I can quote from every book.

(Those who want to reproduce the article must give the name of the blog or the author London Swaminathan. Pictures are not mine)

 

Read my earlier posts:

Indra Festival in the Vedas and Tamil Epics

Veera Matha in the Vedas and Tamil Literature

Vahanas in Kalidasa and Tamil Literature

 

Picture of Indra festival in Nepal.