Anti COVID-19 Mantra in Rig Veda (Post.9564)

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Post No. 9564

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The Rigveda has a mantra against snake bites and other poisonous creatures including scorpions. The mantra or the spell has some lines against unseen germs as well. I personally think that this mantra can be used as anti COVID-19 spell by those who have faith in the Vedic mantras. Hindus believe that Vedic sound effect is more important than the literal meaning.

There are more interesting details coming out of the commentaries on these mantras. It talks about anti dotes to poison and the anti-dotes are peacock/peahen, mongoose, a bird identified as Francolin partridge , herbs, sun and the hymn Mantra itself.

This Rigvedic hymn 1-191 has 16 mantras or stanzas in it. It is attributed to seer Agastya.

RTH Griffith, who translated it gives us the following information,

My additional interpretation is that it may be used against all viral attacks because it talks about invisible and unseen poison attacks as well.

Since the hymn is at least 3500 years old, we lost some of the original meaning..

in the second part  i will give the full mantra………….

to be continued…………………….

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The Beautiful Poetry of the Vedas (Post No.9473)

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Post No. 9473

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Indian Express newspaper cutting dated 6-3-1980

The visions of the beauty of life and nature in the Vedas are extremely rich in poetic value. Perhaps, nowhere else in the world has the glory of dawn and sunrise and the silence and the sweetness of nature, received such rich and at the same time such pure expression.

In English literature , only such noblest passages in Shakespeare and Milton, for example, can be cited as a parallel to the best Vedic hymns, in respect of the spontaneity and expression, the power and sweep of rhythm and the subtlety and solemnity of effect. It is surprising to find that the Vedic sages were quite confident about the future of their poetry

Never Forget  This word of thine, O Singer !

Which future generations shall re-echo

— RV 3-33-8

The words of the Vedas have resounded through at least three and a half millennia and we should expect them to be resounded for many more millennia— (Dr. Abinash Chandra Bose).

Indeed, God is seen as the poet who with poetic power has fixed his beauty in the sky – RV

Aye, the poet of poets, the most famous of all

‘Kavim kaveernaam Upamasra vasthamam’

Also the greatest sage among the poets

‘Tvaam aahur vipratamam kaveenaam.’

In Subrahmanya Bharati s words

‘Umai kavithai seykiral’.

Vedic hymns are compared in the Veda itself to streams gushing out of mountains

‘Giribhrajo normayo madanto bruhaspatim abhyakaa anaavan’-

RV10-68-8

The Vedic sage -seer to whom Vaak, the sacred word had revealed her noble form as a loving wife, finely robed, reveals her to her husband, could not but sing –RV10-71-4

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The aspect of Veda as superb poetry, literature, was dealt with Sri A.V.Subrahmanian under the auspices of Rasodaya at the Sanskrit college premises, Mylapore on March 2. He cited the relevant mantras with manifest ease and enjoyment. Some points referred to by him are recalled below,

SWEET NIGHT AND DAY

1.The Vedic age was one of abundant life. The will to live a long and radiant life was strong. This world was the most beloved of all, we must be happy here.

Sweet to the night and

Sweet to the dawns

Sweet the dust of the earth,

Sweet be our father heaven to us.

‘Madhu naktam utoshaso madhumat naathivam rajah madhu dhyaur nah pitas’

2.In the opening mantra of the Rigveda  the deity is hailed as the Supreme donor,

Agnimeele….. hotaaram ratnadhaatamam. Elsewhere the deity is extolled as the best of furtherers— gaatuvittama- the best gladdener— matsarintam, friend, father, fatherliest of fathers—sakhaayo pitaa pitrutamah and a fountain in the desert to the worshipful man.

RATS AND WEAVER

3.During times of care and pain the Supreme deity is prayed to thus realistically—-

As rats eat the weaver’s threads, cares are eating inside me, Oh Almighty God, show Thy mercy on us. Be like a father to us.

Moosho na sisnaa vyadanti Maadhyah sotaaram to mrulayaa adhaa piternava no bhava RV 10-33-3

CHILD AND FATHER

4.Like a child appealing to his father not to leave him and go away, the prayer is made

Stay still O Bountiful One

Don’t go away. I will offer Thee a libation of

Well pressed Soma juice .

With my sweetest song,

I grasp thy garment’s hem as a child grasps his father’s

RV 3-5-2.

RR.

–subham—

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ONE MORE RIG VEDIC HYMN WITH NUMBER SYMBOLISM ! (Post N0.9260)

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Post No. 9260

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Number symbolism is found throughout Vedic hymns. Hymn 114 of Tenth Mandala also has lot of numbers in it and the Vedic “scholars” found it very difficult to translate it or interpret it. Many of the translators differ from traditional commentator Sayana. I read more in this hymn/ poem from another angle.
First let us look at the numbers in the Ten Mantras in the hymn RV 10-114
Here is Ralph T H Griffith’s translation who is very honest and admits that he is unable to understand hundreds of mantras in the Rig Veda. Others such as Max Muller, Dr Muir, Wilson and Ludwig give their own views. Like no two clocks agree they don’t agree with each other. Later day Tamil siddhas also followed this style and gave just numbers in their verses. At the end of this article I give two examples from Siva Vakkiyar and Tirumazisai Alvar where they repeat number 8 or 5 umpteen times in their verses they leave it to solve the number puzzle.
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RV 10-114
The Rig Veda/Mandala 10/Hymn 114
Translated by Ralph T.H. Griffith

  1. Two perfect springs of heat pervade the Three fold, and come for their delight is Matarisvan.
    Craving the milk of heaven the Gods are present: well do they know the praise song and the Saman.
  2. The priests beard far away, as they are ordered, serve the three Nirrtis, for well they know them.
    Sages have traced the cause that first produced them, dwelling in distant and mysterious chambers.
  3. The Youthful One, well-shaped, with four locks braided, brightened with oil, puts on the ordinances.
    Two Birds of mighty power are seated near her, there where the Deities receive their portion.
  4. One of these Birds hath passed into the sea of air: thence he looks round and views this universal world.
    With simple heart I have beheld him from anear: his Mother kisses him and he returns her kiss.
  5. Him with fair wings though only One in nature, wise singers shape, with songs, in many figures.
    While they at sacrifices fix the metres, they measure out twelve chalices of Soma.
  6. While they arrange the four and six-and-thirty, and duly order, up to twelve, the measures,
    Having disposed the sacrifice thoughtful sages send the Car forward with the Rc and Saman.
  7. The Chariot’s majesties are fourteen others: seven sages lead it onward with their Voices.
    Who will declare to us the ford Apnana, the path whereby they drink first draughts of Soma?
  8. The fifteen lauds are in a thousand places that is as vast as heaven and earth in measure.
    A thousand spots contain the mighty thousand. Vak spreadeth forth as far as Prayer extendeth.
  9. What sage hath learned the metres’ application? Who hath gained Vak, the spirit’s aim and object?
    Which ministering priest is called eighth Hero? Who then hath tracked the two Bay Steeds of Indra?
  10. Yoked to his chariot-pole there stood the Coursers: they only travel round earth’s farthest limits.
    These, when their driver in his home is settled, receive the allotted meed of their exertion.

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MY COMMENTS

1.In Mantra 8, Griffith talks about 15 types of prayers/lauds. Sayana talks about Indriyas/ sense organs.

2.In Mantra 3, we come across Two Birds; In another Upanishad mantra two bird sitting and one eats the berries- is interpreted as Paramatma and Jeevatma; Kanchi Paramacharya (1894-1994) says it was taken by the Christians and given in Adam and Eve (Atma and Jeeve atma) story

3.in Mantra 9, we come across 8th hero. Some describe it as Agni. Others differ.
4.In Mantra 8 , three times 1000 is repeated. Translators struggle to explain it.
5.Mantras 5, 6, 7 also have many numbers
6.Mantra three is very interesting Four Braided Woman is described as Vedic altar with four sides!
7.In Mantra we have Three Nirritis, who are usually associated with Death
8.Mantra two probably talks about the Big Bang and the expanding Univers whe they say “Sages have traced the cause that first produced them, dwelling in distant and mysterious chambers.”
9.Mantra 10 also stress this cosmological point when they say “Yoked to his chariot-pole there stood the Coursers: they only travel round earth’s farthest limits”
10.Mantra seven describe a place called Apnana (water ford?) which is rare.
11.Mantra 4 talks about one bird goes into the sea and looks around which reminds us of the bird that sailors use to fined out whether they are near shore/land. This bird is in Indus boat seal and Alvar song.
12.Mantra 4 has a beautiful expression “his Mother kisses him and he returns her kiss.”
This hymn is addressed to Visvedevas, but stress One God is seen as many/1000
Very interesting Hymn, but not translated correctly by the “scholars”
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Translators’ views
Mantra 1
Springs of heat – Agni and Surya ; Three fold- the universe , sky, firmament and earth; Matariswan – Vayu according to Sayana;
Three fold- Agni, Vayu, Surya says Ludwig.
Mantra 2
Nirritis -heaven, mid air an earth according to Sayana. Dawn , which by their regular appearance bring men nearer to death . Nirritis are linked to death.
Mantra 3
Four braided youth – Vedic altar
Two birds – probably Agni and Soma
According to Sayana husband and wife
Mantra 4
One – Agni as the sun. his mother, perhaps as prof. Ludwig says dawn
Mantra 6
Thirty six grahas are chalices or saucers for soma juice and four extra for Atyagniistoma sacrifice. The car = sacrifice.
Mantra 7
Majesties- may be mighty priests;
The ford Apanana – passage leading to sacrifice
Mantra 8
The mighty thousand – meaning is uncertain.
Wilson says 1000 places.
Dr muir says thousand times 15 Ukthas/ words.
According to Sayana every function of the body had its appropriate object.
Mantra 9
Eighth hero – Agni
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EXCEPT TENTH MANTRA, ALL OTHERS HAVE NUMBERS

HERE IS THE FULL HYMN IN DEVANAGARI

घ॒र्मा समं॑ता त्रि॒वृतं॒ व्या॑पतु॒स्तयो॒र्जुष्टिं॑ मात॒रिश्वा॑ जगाम ।
दि॒वस्पयो॒ दिधि॑षाणा अवेषन्वि॒दुर्दे॒वाः स॒हसा॑मानम॒र्कं ॥

ति॒स्रो दे॒ष्ट्राय॒ निर्ऋ॑ती॒रुपा॑सते दीर्घ॒श्रुतो॒ वि हि जा॒नंति॒ वह्न॑यः ।
तासां॒ नि चि॑क्युः क॒वयो॑ नि॒दानं॒ परे॑षु॒ या गुह्ये॑षु व्र॒तेषु॑ ॥
Samhita Devanagari Accented
चतु॑ष्कपर्दा युव॒तिः सु॒पेशा॑ घृ॒तप्र॑तीका व॒युना॑नि वस्ते ।
तस्यां॑ सुप॒र्णा वृष॑णा॒ नि षे॑दतु॒र्यत्र॑ दे॒वा द॑धि॒रे भा॑ग॒धेयं॑ ॥
एकः॑ सुप॒र्णः स स॑मु॒द्रमा वि॑वेश॒ स इ॒दं विश्वं॒ भुव॑नं॒ वि च॑ष्टे ।
तं पाके॑न॒ मन॑सापश्य॒मंति॑त॒स्तं मा॒ता रे॑ळ्हि॒ स उ॑ रेळ्हि मा॒तरं॑ ॥
Samhita Devanagari Accented
सु॒प॒र्णं विप्राः॑ क॒वयो॒ वचो॑भि॒रेकं॒ संतं॑ बहु॒धा क॑ल्पयंति ।
छंदां॑सि च॒ दध॑तो अध्व॒रेषु॒ ग्रहा॒न्त्सोम॑स्य मिमते॒ द्वाद॑श ॥
ष॒ट्त्रिं॒शांश्च॑ च॒तुरः॑ क॒ल्पयं॑त॒श्छंदां॑सि च॒ दध॑त आद्वाद॒शं ।
य॒ज्ञं वि॒माय॑ क॒वयो॑ मनी॒ष ऋ॑क्सा॒माभ्यां॒ प्र रथं॑ वर्तयंति ॥
चतु॑र्दशा॒न्ये म॑हि॒मानो॑ अस्य॒ तं धीरा॑ वा॒चा प्र ण॑यंति स॒प्त ।
आप्ना॑नं ती॒र्थं क इ॒ह प्र वो॑च॒द्येन॑ प॒था प्र॒पिबं॑ते सु॒तस्य॑ ॥
Samhita Devanagari Accented
स॒ह॒स्र॒धा पं॑चद॒शान्यु॒क्था याव॒द्द्यावा॑पृथि॒वी ताव॒दित्तत् ।
स॒ह॒स्र॒धा म॑हि॒मानः॑ स॒हस्रं॒ याव॒द्ब्रह्म॒ विष्ठि॑तं॒ ताव॑ती॒ वाक् ॥
Samhita Devanagari Accented
कश्छंद॑सां॒ योग॒मा वे॑द॒ धीरः॒ को धिष्ण्यां॒ प्रति॒ वाचं॑ पपाद ।
कमृ॒त्विजा॑मष्ट॒मं शूर॑माहु॒र्हरी॒ इंद्र॑स्य॒ नि चि॑काय॒ कः स्वि॑त् ॥
भूम्या॒ अंतं॒ पर्येके॑ चरंति॒ रथ॑स्य धू॒र्षु यु॒क्तासो॑ अस्थुः ।
श्रम॑स्य दा॒यं वि भ॑जंत्येभ्यो य॒दा य॒मो भव॑ति ह॒र्म्ये हि॒तः ॥

–subham–

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ORIGIN OF ‘BHAKTI’ IN RIG VEDA; 15 TYPES OF PRAYER! (Post.9250)

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Post No. 9250

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ORIGIN OF ‘BHAKTI’ IN RIG VEDA; 15 TYPES OF PRAYER! (Post.9250)

BHAKTI (devotion to God) MOVEMENT HAS ITS SEEDS IN THE RIG VEDA. NARADA BHAKTI SUTRAM DESRCIBED THE STAGES IN BHAKTI, I.E. DEVOTION TO GOD.  GREAT TAMIL SAINT APPAR ALIAS TIRU NAVUKKARASAR REPEATED IT IN HIS TEVARAM IN 600 CE. HE WAS CONTEMPORARY OF ANOTHER GREAT TAMIL SAINT TIRU JNANA SAMBANDAR. BOTH OF THEM CHANGED THE PICTURE OF TAMIL NADU BY WALIKNG THROUGH THE LENGTH AND BREADTH OF TAMIL NADU WIPING OUT BUDDISM AND JAINISM FROM TAMIL SPEAKING WORLD.

BUT BEFORE THIS, WE SEE BHAKTI YOGAM CHAPTER IN THE BHAGAVAD GITA. IF WE GO BY ADI SHANKARA’S DATING BY KANCHI PARAMACHARYA SWAMIJI, THEN ADI SHANKARA STATRED BHAKTI MOVEMENT IN THE PRE CHRISTIAN ERA. BUT THE SEEDS ARE LAID IN THE RIG VEDA.

If one goes through the prayers in the Rig Veda, one would understand all the points raised by later Bhakti poets are already in the oldest book in the world- The Rig Veda

IN TAMIL AND SANSKRIT BOOKS


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‘UR’ IN RIG VEDA AND TAMIL LITERATURE- HINDU ATTACK ON SUMERIA! (Post No.9194)

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Post No. 9194

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“THE INDIA WE HAVE LOST” , EDITOR PARAMESH CHOUDHURY, NEW DELHI, 1997 IS A VALUABLE BOOK WITH LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT INDIA’S FOREIGN ADVENTURES 5000 YEARS AGO. HE IS QUOTING ALL FROM EARLY WRITERS.

Two Seals (2800 BCE) found in Ur and Kish of Mesopotamia (IRAQ) are particularly of Mohenjo-Daro type. 16 seals have been found in Ur and 14 in Kish and other places, 30 seals in all.

Besides these, there are also other indications of intercourse between India and Mesopotamia: broken portions of earthen jars, toilets sets, horns on the head of human figures, trefoil decoration on cloth, beads, covers of jars etc

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Sumerian in Rig Veda- URU , KISH

The following verses are found in the Rig Veda (RV):-

1. NE’ER doth the man repent, who, seeking profit, bringeth his gift to the far-striding Visnu.

     He who adoreth him with all his spirit winneth himself so great a benefactor.

2. Thou, Visnu, constant in thy courses, gavest good-will to all men, and a hymn that lasteth,

     That thou mightst move us to abundant comfort of very splendid wealth with store of horses.

3. Three times strode forth this God in all his grandeur over this earth bright with a hundred splendours.

     Foremost be Visnu, stronger than the strongest: for glorious is his name who lives for ever.

4. Over this earth with mighty step strode Visnu, ready to give it for a home to Manu.

     In him the humble people trust for safety: he, nobly born, hath made them spacious dwellings.

(URU+KISH= URUKSHITI-SPACIOUS DWELLINGS)

5. To-day I laud this name, O gipivista, I, skilled in rules, the name of thee the Noble.

     Yea, I the poor and weak praise thee the Mighty who dwellest in the realm beyond this region.

6. What was there to be blamed in thee, O Visnu, when thou declaredst, I am Sipivista?

     Hide not this form from us, nor keep it secret, since thou didst wear another shape in battle.

7. O Visnu, unto thee my lips cry Vasat! Let this mine offering, Sipivista, please thee.

     May these my songs of eulogy exalt thee. Preserve us evermore, ye Gods, with blessings.

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TAMIL LITERATURE

In Tamil literature we have Uru, Urukezu used in several places and Uru means in Tamil—

Beauty – from Sanskrit Rupa (Rupa is a common name for girls from Kanyakumari to Kashmir)

Statue/figure/idol – from Sanskrit Rupa

Disease, Musical piece, Boat/ship and Big/long/Spacious

Surprisingly Sayana translated URU as ‘spacious’ as in Tamil!

(Uru Kesa= Beautiful hair in Maori according to A Kalyanaraman of Aryatarangini)

But the actual meaning is Uru and Kish  are two place names where from different kings ruled. It is confirmed as place names in other RV verses:-

“Oh, Soma flow for Indra , Varuna and Vayu. Let our wealth remain intact. Let the Devas assemble in Urukshiti hearing the sound of your sacrifice “(9-84-1)

“Oh Fire , blaze in your glory and burn the Rakshasas  in the houses in Uru” (RV 10-118-8)

“The dwellers of Uru worshipped you who are the most worshipful with hymns of praise” (10-118-9)

The names Ur and Kish in ancient Mesopotamia (Iraq) are clearly the corruptions of the word URU-KSHITI

Kshiti is colloquially pronounced as Kish

Uru is used in other places in Mesopotamia as Uru, Uruk, Urkashade etc.

Even modern names of ancient places of India are corrupted, some beyond recognition.

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Kishkinda in Patanjali

All Indians know about Kishkinda of Hanuman and Anjaneya of Ramayana. Scholars have identified this place with Hampi in modern Karnataka state of India.

But Patanjali mentioned another Kishkinda 2300 years ago.

Sudras outside Aryavarta lived in Kishkinda-Gabdikam, Saka- Yavanam, and Saurya- Krauncham.

All these places are outside present India.

So, Kish people might have gone to Sumeria. Sumerians clearly say that they came from East and from a mountainous area. All Sumerian scholars repeated this but identified the East and Mountainous area with different places. My research shows that they went from Himalayan area. For the same reason Valmiki also named Kishkinda for the rocky areas of South  India in Ramayana.

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This is confirmed by other evidence:

“The Indus Script and the Rig Veda” by Egbert Richter Ushanas (New Delhi, 1997) gives detailed comparison of Sumerian seals and Indus seals. He interpreted all the seals on the basis of Rig Veda .

A beautiful summary is available from Aryatarangini of A Kalyanaraman (Asia Publishing House, 1969)

Here is the gist in bullet points…………..

NOTE II TO CHAPTER III

VISHNU IN MESOPOTAMIA

In the paper submitted to the All India Oriental Conference in 1964, Shri BK Chattopadhyaya makes the following points-

1.Apropos of the Indus Valley seals (dated circa 2500 BCE) found at Ur and Kish in Mesopotamia, there is mention of a place valled Uru-Kshiti, in Rig Veda 7-100-4 as below:

2.Vishnu traversed the world , in order to give lands to his worshippers! Those who worshipped him got a fixed abode . He created Uru- Kshiti

In another verse in RV 10-84-1

Oh Soma, flow for Indra, Varuna and Vayu; Let Gods assemble at Uru-Kshiti, hearing the recitation of your mantras!

Further in RV 10-118-8 occur these significant paasages-

Oh, Agni, blaze in the houses of Uru and destroy the Rakshasas; the dwellers of Uru kindled you (Agni) with hymns.

Finally in RV 8-68-12/13 the word Uru occurs in a context which suggests that it is a name of a place and not the equivalent of  ‘great’ or ‘much’ as interpreted by Sayana (died in 1387 CE) .

Dr Marshall believed that Indus seals were carried to Ur and Kish by people hailing from India and settling in Mesopotamia .

Mr Chattopadhya holds that the first invasion of Sumeria by the Hindus took place in 3500 BCE.

Rudra and Shiva are not two different deities but one and the same as we find in Yajur Veda and the Indus valley people worshipped Shiva and Sakti. The religion of Mohenjo-Daro must have been Vedic, concludes B K Chattopadhyaya.

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Sayana was wrong

Urukshaya is translated as BIG HOUSE IS NOT HAPPY by Sayana who lived 600 years ago. He tried to interpret Vedas which came about in 4500 BCE. So he couldn’t have understood it fully.

From the statement that Vishnu gave Urukshit to his followers which has been explained by Sayana to mean that Vishnu took it from the Asuras and gave it to the Devas and for the fact that Indian seals of 2800 BCE have been found in Uru and Kish it is clear that the Vedic Hindus established a colony in Mesopotamia in that early date. Sumerian literature also say that they came from the East, from a mountainous area and settled in the ‘plains’.

Later Hittites (corruption of Kshatrias; even today Kshatrias call themselves Khatti in North India) and Kaassites form Kasi/Varanasi also settled there from 1900 BCE.

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Uru in other RV verses

Uru -kaksa in 6-45-3 = dwelling on the Ganges or name of a person

Uru- ksaya  in 10-118-8/9

According to Ludwig translation of the RV,

A family of singers and worshippers of Agni. They are knows as Uru ksayas.

Tamil Uzavu= ploughing is in other Verses

Urvara denotes a piece of ploughland . it occurs from first mandala to tenth mandala of RV, in all ten books! In Tamil it is Uzavu (cultivation) uzavaaram- cultivated land;

Uzu – plough. English word Plough came from this Ur/Uzu/

R =L; P=U

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My Evidence

My research shows that Ur and Kish Kings have Sanskrit names:

Kish

Enmebaragesi – Kesi suffix is very common India ; even Maoris of New Zealand had Uru kesi as a name. we have Neelakesi , Rishikesi etc. he ruled kish in 2650 BCE

Agga is the next king we know of. It is Aja whom we find in Raghuvamsam of Kalidasa and puranas.

Ur nanshe ruled in 2500 BCE

Ur in Sumerian means dog as well. But here it may be his town – Ur

Tamil poets are called with their town names in Sangam literature.

Then we have Akul – shiva’s name followed by 5 names with Natum . it may be Nathan like my name swami Nathan.

 Kings of Ur

First king is

Ur Nammu – 2112 BCE

Shulgi 2094 BCE

Then we have three Sanskrit names

Sin is Chandra / moon in Sumerian ; I read it as sena ; Mahabharata has many sena names

We have

Ramachandra

Kaushik Chandra  and many more chanders

In Sumer we have

Amar sin – 2046 BCE

Shu sin – 2037 BCE

Ibbi sin – 2026 BCE

I gave only the kings who ruled 4000 years ago.

So there is no doubt that they were Hindus who went there and settled and ruled. Later Mitannian kings have very pure Sanskrit names from 1400 BCE.

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So  far as archaeological evidence is concerned , a piece of Indian teak found in the ruins of Ur of the Chaldess at Al Muqayyar (Sayce, Hibbert Lectures, 1887, pp 18, 136-137 was the first indication of a commercial contact between India and Sumer.

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A .V. Pandya identified the Asuras in Rig Veda with Assyrians in the Middle East in his article ‘Some Ancient Cities of Iraq in Early Indian Literature’ (Ballabh Vidhyamandir Research Bulletin, Vol.I, Issue I, 1957).

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VEDIC HINDUS DOMINATION OF MIGHTY OCEAN-30 QUOTATIONS (Post No.8875)

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Post No. 8875

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RIG VEDA IS THE OLDEST BOOK IN THE WORLD. HERMAN JACOBI AND BALA GANGADHARA TILAK DATED IT TO 6000 BCE. HINDUS TRAVELLED IN BIG SHIPS 8000 YEARS AGO. THERE ARE OVER 85 QUOTES ON OCEAN. I SELECTED ONLY 30. HERE IS THE PROOF FOR HINDU DOMINATION IN SEVEN OCEANS OF THE WORLD, SEVEN CONTINNTS OF THE WORD–

NOVEMBER 2020 ‘GOOD THOUGHTS’ CALENDER

FESTIVAL DAYS – DEEPAVALI/DIWALI/KUBERA PUJA- NOVEMBER 14; CHILDREN’S DAY -14; SKANDA SHASTI FASTING BEGINS – 15, SKANDA SASHTI- 20; KARTIK PURNIMA/ KARTIKAI DEEPA FESTIVAL -29

FULL MOON/PURNIMA- 29; NEW MOON/AMAVASYAI- 14; EKADASI/HINDU FASTING DAYS – 11, 26; MUHURTA DINA/AUSPICIOUS DAYS –4, 6, 11, 12, 13, 20, 26

VEDIC HINDUS DOMINATION OF MIGHTY OCEAN; SEA IN THE RIG VEDA- 30 QUOTATIONS

NOVEMBER 1 SUNDAY

AS RIVERS TO THE OCEAN – 6-36-3

NOVEMBER 2 MONDAY

BY WHICH YOU RELEASED THE GREAT FLOODS TO THE OCEAN- 8-3-10

NOVEMBER 3 TUESDAY

AS RIVERS UNITING TO THE SEA – 3-36-7

NOVEMBER  4 WEDNESDAY

THE SEA WITH SEVEN FOUNDATIONS – 8-40-5

NOVEMBER  5  THURSDAY

FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA – 10-89-4

NOVEMBER  6 FRIDAY

AS SEVEN MIGHTY STREAMS THE OCEAN – 1-71-7

NOVEMBER  7  SATURDAY

A SINGLE OCEAN, THE UPHOLDER OF  TREASURES – 10-5-1

NOVEMBER 8 SUNDAY

IN THE SUPPORTLESS, FOUNDATIONLESS, UNGRASPABLE OCEAN – A SHIP WITH 100 OARS -1-116-5

NOVEMBER 9 MONDAY

TO THE OTHER SHORE OF THE WET OCEAN – 1-116-4

NOVEMBER 10 TUESDAY

WITH THE SHIPS OF THE NATURE OF THE WIND – 1-116-3

NOVEMBER  11 WEDNESDAY

DELIVERED ACROSS THE OCEAN – 1-118-6

NOVEMBER  12  THURSDAY

ACROSS THE SEA – 1-174-9

NOVEMBER  13  FRIDAY

THE SHIPS OF TRUTH- VARUNA TAKES US ACROSS THE GREAT OCEAN- 9-73-1

NOVEMBER  14  SATURDAY

THE SHIP OF OUR THOUGHTS ; YOUR OAR THAT IS AS WIDE AS HEAVEN – 1-46-8

NOVEMBER 15 SUNDAY

THROUGH WHOM WE MAY CROSS THE WATERS  TO GOOD HABITATIONS -7-56-24

NOVEMBER 16 MONDAY

IN A HOUSE BUILT UPON THE SEA – 8-10-1

NOVEMBER 17 TUESDAY

WHO MAKES THE MOUNTAINS SHAKE(Tsunami)  ACROSS THE FLOODING OCEAN – 1-19-8

NOVEMBER  18 WEDNESDAY

WHEN THE DIVERSE FLOWING STREANS CANNOT FILL THE ONE OCEAN WITH THEIR WATERS- 5-85-6

A BRAHMIN POET BY NAME PARANAR USED THIS IN SANGAM TAMIL LITERATURE AS WELL

NOVEMBER  19  THURSDAY

HE KNOWS THE OCEAN GOING SHIPS – 1-25-7

NOVEMBER  20  FRIDAY

A SECRET OCEAN – 8-41-8; AAPUURYAMAANAM ACALAPRATHISTAM – SAYS BHAGAVAD GITA

NOVEMBER  21  SATURDAY

THE EARTH WITH THE OCEANS – 6-50-13; LATER TAMIL LITERATURE DESCRIBES THE WORLD AS SURROUNDED BY THE OCEAN

NOVEMBER 22 SUNDAY

PEACEFUL THE OCEAN – 7-35-13; LATER DAY TRAVELLERS CALLED IT -PACIFIC OCEAN.

NOVEMBER 23 MONDAY

LORD OF THE  RIVERS – 9-15-5 ; LATER DAY SANSKRIT LITERATURE AND SANGAM TAMIL LITEARTURE USED THIS IMAGERY- RIVERS= WIVES/WOMEN, OCEAN=HUSBAND

NOVEMBER 24 TUESDAY

LIKE RIVERS DOWN TO THE SEA  9-88-6; HINDUS USE THIS IN EVERYDAY PRAYER; AAKAASATH PATITAM TOYAM YATHAA GACHCHATI SAAGARAM…….

NOVEMBER  25 WEDNESDAY

YOU ARE THE ALL KNOWING OCEAN ,OH SEER 9-86-29; THIS SIMILE IS USED EVEN TODAY;

NOVEMBER  26  THURSDAY

THE OCEAN GOING ANGELS – 9-78-3

NOVEMBER  27  FRIDAY

FROM FOUR OCEANS – 9-33-6 – IT MEANS OCEANS IN 4 DIRECTIOS; LATER DAY TAMIL INSCRIPTIONS USED THIS EXPRESSION.

NOVEMBER  28  SATURDAY

A FOURFOLD OCEAN, THE SUPPORT  OF TREASURES – 10-47-2; TAMILS ALSO CALLED OCEAN, A TREASURE HOUSE BECAUSE OF CORAL AND PEARLS AND THE SHIPS WITH GOLD FROM FOREIGN LANDS.

NOVEMBER 29 SUNDAY

INCREASE THE OCEAN OF THE HYMN- 9-61-15 – IT MEANS SING THE GLORY OF THE GOD TO THE SIZE OF THE OCEAN

NOVEMBER 30 MONDAY

WHEN MEN WHO ARE EXPERT IN OCEAN TRANSPORTATION, AND CAN CALCULATE THE TIME, PLACE, AND GOODS, ESTABLISH AN INTEREST RATE, THAT IS THE RATE FOR PAYMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR TRANSACTION- MANU SMRTI- 8-157

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SOURCE- GODS, SAGES AND KINGS – BY DAVID FRAWLEY; WITH MY INPUTS FROM TAMIL LITERATURE.

TAGS- NOVEMBER 2020, HINDU DOMINATION, OCEAN, SEA, SHIP, RIG VEDA

RIG VEDIC SANSKRIT WORDS IN SANGAM TAMIL LITERATURE- Part 1 (Post No.8047)

COMPILED BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

Post No. 8047

Date uploaded in London – 26 May 2020   

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Sangam Tamil literature consist of 18 books running to nearly 30,000 lines. Over 2500 poems were composed by more than 450 poets. They belong to first three centuries of modern era (CE). Rig Veda also has over 400 seers with over 1000 hymns. Those hymns have over 10,000 mantras. Rig Veda is dated between 1500 BCE and 4000 BCE.

Here is a list of TAML and SANSKRIT words found in old literatures belonging to both the languages.

Scholars argue that Mina (fish), Neer/Nir (water), Mayura (peacock) found in the Rig Veda are few words borrowed from Tamil.  But no one has given the details of who used those Tamil words in the Rig Veda and what is the position of those Risis (seers) in chronological order. Tamils took at least 300 years to produce 2500 poems, Rig Vedic poets took at least 500 years to produce the present 1000 plus hymns. Someone has to probe into the chronology of those poets before coming to definite conclusions

I am giving a list of Sanskrit words found in the Tamil Sangam Works. I have taken most of the words from the book INDO-ARYAN LOAN WORDS IN OLD TAMIL by S. VAIDYANATHAN, 1971. I have not included words from Cilappadikaram, because I consider it a Post -Sangam work. But he has included Tolkappiam, Tirukkural and Cilappadikram in his book

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Abbreviations used in the list

Tolkappiam- TK

Cilappadikaram -CAM

Tirukkural -TKL

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Tamil Sangam books

A .Pattup pattu

1.Porunaraarruppatai – PNP

2.Cirupanaarruptai – CPP

3.Perumpanaarruppatai – PMP

4. Mullaippattu- MP

5.Maturaikkaanchi- MKI

6.Netunalvaatai – NNV

7.Kurincippaattu – KP

8.Pattinappaalai – PP

9.Malaipatukataam – MPK

10.Tirumurukaarruppatai -TMP

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B .Ettut tokai

1.Purananaauru -PNN

2.Akanaanuru – ANN

3.Narrinai – PMP

4. Kuruntokai – KTK

5.Patirruppattu -PPU

6.Anikurunuuru- Ai. KN

7.Kalittokai -KLT

8.Paripaatal – PPL

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1.Antaram , sky in TMP line 119. அந்தரம்

Intermediate space in RV

2.Manam ,PNN.183-4; Manan TMP line 90, mind மனம்

Manas mind in RV

3.Tuumam, PNN 117-1, smoke தூமம்

Dhuuma , smoke in RV

4.Ticai PP-2, direction திசை

Dis , direction in RV

Disaa in epics

5. Kalam, PMP 415, kalan MKI 48, battlefield, களம்

Khala ,threshing floor in RV

6.Pataakai PP 182, flag, பதாகை

Pat , to fly in RV

Pataakaa , flag in epics

7.Viccai , KLT 119-4, learning  விச்சை

Vidyaa -knowledge and vid- to know, in RV

8.Vecanai , PPL 20-13, entrance வேசனை

Vis , to enter in RV

Vesana – the act of entering in Bh P

9.Mukam, CPP -73, Mukan in PNN.207-4, face முகம்

Mukha , face in RV

10.Tantu ,KTK 156-3, staff, stick தண்டு

Danda , stick in RV

11.Mani , PNN. 56,PNP.21 gem, மணி

Gem in RV

12.Ulakkai , PNN. 221-8, pestle, உலக்கை

Uluukhala , a wooden mortar in RV

13.Aariyar, The kings of Andhra, ANN 276-9, ஆரியர்

Aarya , honourable  in RV

14.Iyakkan , PNN.71-14, name  of a king, இயக்கன்

Yaksha , spiritual apparition in RV

15. Valayam – PPL.13-52, bracelet, வலயம்

Valaya – bangles since the epics,

Var – wrap up, environ in  RV

16.Mangala , PNN.332, auspicious மங்கலம்

Sumangala , auspicious in RV

Also in CAM6-125, beauty

Mangala , luck, Sat.brahmana

17.Vaanikap paricilan , PNN 208-7, TKL.120, TOL.3-622-1 வாணிகப் பரிசிலன்

Vanikan PNN.134-2, a merchant

Vanik (in compounds) in RV

18.Kalam , PNN.228-1, pot கலம்

Kalasa , water pot in RV

19. Punniyam ,PP.204, good deeds புண்ணியம்

Punya , virtuous in  RV

20.Pali ,PNP.183, a ball of rice offered to crow, PP.179. oblation, CAM.5-87 human sacrifice பலி

Bali, oblation in RV

21.Ulaku PNN.107-4, Ulakam PNP.176, world உலகு

Loka in RV

22.Maakam ,MKI 454, sky மாகம் 

Mahaa , great in RV, (Maghavan-Indra)

Kha – sky in RV

23.Kankai , PMP.431, the Ganges கங்கை

Gangaa in RV

24.Puruvam, PNP.26, eye-brow புருவம்

Bhru , eye brow, in RV

25.Uuci- PNN 82-4, north ஊசி

Udici , north in RV

26.Paaci, PNN 229-9, east பாசி

Praaci, east, in RV

27.Vaaranam ,ANN.172-1, elephant வாரணம்

Vaarana , wild, dangerous, in RV

28.Ankam, ANN137-1, body அங்கம்

Anga, limb of the body in RV

29.Acokam , KLT 57-12, Saraca indica, the Asoka tree

Asoka , without heat in RV அசோகம்

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FROM POST RIG VEDIC LITERATURE

Kanti CAM 12-57, neck கண்டி

Kantha in Satapata brahmana

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Kulam , Ai. KN, 259-3, community , குலம்

Kulan ,TKL 223, family

Kula in Satapata brahmana

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Mekalai,  KLT.96-16, upper garment மேகலை

Mekhela , girdle in AV

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Navamani CAM 3-116, nine gems நவமணி

Nava , nine in RV,

Mani , gem, RV

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Manta maarutam , CAM 4-44, breeze மந்த மாருதம்

Manda , slowly, softly, in epics

Maaruta proceeding from or consisting of the 

Maruts in RV

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Arasa kumarar , CAM 5-158, அரச குமாரர்,

Raja kulaara, panini

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Analan PPl.5-57, the fire god அனலன்

Since Manu and R

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Pintam , PNN.246-6, a ball of rice offered to the deceased ancestors,

பிண்டம்

Pinda , a ball of food offered to the deceased in Srauta and   Grhya sutras

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11.Kutaari , PPL 5-34, axe குடாரி

Kuthaara, axe, in R

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Palaasam KCP 88, butea frondosa பலாசம்

Palaasa  I Aitareya Brahmana

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Cakatam PMP 50, PNN 60-8, , 90-7, 185-2 சகடம்

(with different spellings), cart

Sakata , cart, in Chadogya Upanishad

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Picaaca KLT-65-17, ghosts, பிசாச

Pisaca – demon, imp in AV

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Aatava, sun, ANN.195-19, ஆதவ

Aatapa , sun shine Kathopanishad

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Naakam, elephant, NNv.117, நாகம்

Naaga, elephant, Aitareya Brahmana

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Vata Malai , PNN 67—7, Northern Mountains வட மலை

Uttaraparvata in R

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Kaayam PNN 20-4, aakaayam PPL 4-31, sky

காயம் ஆகாயம்

Aakaasa , sky in Aitareya Brahmana

TO BE CONTINUED……………………….

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‘WOMEN IN VEDAS’ IN BULLET POINTS (Post No.7551)

WRITTEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

Post No.7551

Date uploaded in London – 8 February 2020

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The number of female seers in Rig Veda comes to about thirty. This number includes five lady seers of Khilasukta also . Khila is like appendix or supplement.

GHOSA KAKSHIVATI, LOPAMUDRA, APALA, ROMASA, SURYA, JUHU BRAHMAJAYA, SRADDHA KAMAYANI, YAMI, INDRANI, MEDHA, AGASTYAVASA, ATREYI, SASVATI ANGHIRASI, VISWAVARA, SACI PAULOMI, DAUGHTERS OF KASYAPA, OR SIKHANDINS, URVASI, INDRAMATARAH

NON HUMAN FEMININE  CHARACTERS

SARAMA THE BITCH, GODHA THE CORODILE, SARPA RAJNI

INANIMATE FEMININE CHARACTERS

RATRI BHARADWAJI, DAKSHINA  PRAJAPATYA, VAG/SPEECH, NADHI/NADHYAH, SRI, LAKSA

It is pleasing to note that no religious disabilities were associated with women in India down to the end of the Upanishadic age (pre buddha period 600 BCE)

In the Vedic age there is ample evidence to show that the women not only studied the Vedas but also figured among the authors of Rig Vedic hymns. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

ONLY FOR WOMEN

In the Vedic age there were certain sacrifices  like the Siitaa sacrifice and Rudra sacrifice that could be performed by women alone.

(Siitaa sacrifice at harvest and Rudra sacrifice to ensure fecundity among cattle)

Some women Vedic scholars like Lopaamudraa, Vishwavaaraa and Ghoshaa composed hymns that were later admitted into the sacred canon. Usually Vedic sacrifices were to be offered jointly by the husband and the wife.

The wife took an active part in the daily and periodical sacrifices along with her husband. She had her own hut in the sacrificial compound; the duty of chanting the sSaman hymns  usually fell upon her. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

FIRST BRICK

The wife used to make the first brick for the sacrificial altar and participate in the consecration of the fire and the offering of oblations.

If the husband is away on a journey, the wife alone performed the different sacrifices which the couple had to do jointly.

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As women enjoyed the same religious privileges as men and received the same education, their status in the family was nearly the same as that of men. Their status in society also was naturally satisfactory. Many of them were famous scholars and authors. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Women in Industries

 It is rather surprising to find that women were taking active part in the industrial life. They were manufacturing arrows and bows, making baskets, weaving cloth and participating in outdoor agricultural work. It is important to note that words like female arrow makers (ishukartryah) do not occur in later literature.

Among the fine arts music and dance have been cultivated by women fairly extensively; their love for and excellence in these arts were well known. Since women were following many outdoor professions there was naturally no ‘purdah’ (face covering veil) in the society. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Dampati

The husband and wife were the joint owners of the household and its property. They are called Dampati (Couple).RV 8-31-5/6

Yaa dampatii samanasaa sunuta aa ca

Dhaavalah devaaso niyayaasir

The expression ‘the wife is the home’ shows how woman was the central point of domestic life-RV 3-53-4

Jaayedastammaaghavantsedduyoni

Grhinini /housewife is used in tamil as well as ‘illaal’ tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

POST VEDIC

What living women have proved to be such formative force as, for example, Sati, Sita and Savitri?

What could be better illustrative examples of the true dignity of Indian womanhood than Draupadi, Shakuntalaa, and Gaandhaari?

We hear of great women like Maitreyi, , Gaargi, Arundhati and Liilaavati

Source – Great Women of India and New Horizons of Indological Research tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

TAGS – Vedic Women, Vedic Poetesses, Rig Veda

–subham–

ரிக் வேதத்தில் “க” (Post No.4229)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 20 September 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 21-19

 

Post No. 4229

 

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ரிக்வேதத்தில் “க” என்னும் கடவுள் வெளி நாட்டு “அறிஞர்களின்” கண்களில் விரலை விட்டு ஆட்டிவிட்டது. வேத கால மக்கள் நாடோடிகள், கைபர் கணவாய் வழியாக வந்த நாடோடிகள் என்றெல்லாம் பிதற்றிய அறிவிலிகளுக்கு, அரை வேக்காடுகளுக்கு ரிக் வேத  “க” பெரிய புதிர் போட்டது. மாக்ஸ் முல்லர் முதலியோரெல்லாம் சிரித்தனர். இப்போது அதுகளை ப் பார்த்தால் நமக்கு சிரிப்பாக வருகிறது!

 

க என்றால் பிரம்மா; க என்றால் பிரஜாபதி; இது தமிழ் அகராதியிலும் உள்ளது. மேலும் சில விஷயங்கள் மாக்ஸ் முல்லர் வகையறாக்களுக்குத் தெரியாது ‘க’ என்றால் கடவுள். தமிழ் ‘க’ பிராமி என்னும் வடக்கத்திய லிபியிலிருந்து வந்ததை உலகமே அறியும். அது கிட்டத்தட்ட கிறிஸ்தவ சிலுவையைப் போல வெறும் கோடுகளால் மட்டும் ஆனது. ஆதி கால எகிப்தில் இது கடவுளைக் குறிக்கும் சின்னம்! ஆனால் வெறும் சிலுவை மாதிரி கோடுகள் மட்டுமில்லாமல் இரண்டு புறமும் இரு கோடுகள் மேல் நோக்கிச் செல்லும் அதைப் பார்த்தால் ஒரு மனிதன் இரு கைகளையும்  உயர்த்தி இருப்பதைப் போலத் தோன்றும். இந்தியாவில் இருந்து சென்ற க (பிரஜாபதி) மூலம் இந்த எழுத்து வந்திருக்கலாம். அதிலிருந்து சிலுவையும் தோன்றி இருக்கலாம்.

 

இனி ரிக் வேத கவிதை “க” (10-121) பற்றிக் காண்போம்.

 

‘க’ என்றால் சம்ஸ்கிருதத்தில் யார் என்றும் ஒரு பொருள் உண்டு. வேத கால மக்கள் மிக மிக நாகரீக முன்னேற்றம் கண்டவர்கள். ஆகையால் ‘க’ என்ற எழுத்தை வைத்துச் சொற் சிலம்பம் விளையாடினர். வேத கால மக்களை ‘மண்டுகள்’ என்று சித்தரித்த மாக்ஸ் முல்லர் வகையறாக்களால் இந்த சிலேடைக் கவிதையை ஜீரணிக்க முடியவில்லை. மேலும் அவர்களுக்கு எகிப்திய நாகரீகம் பற்றிய விரிவான  அறிவும் கிடையாது. தமிழ் ‘க’ பற்றியும் தெரியாது. ஆகையால் இது என்ன வெறும் உளறலாக இருக்கிறதே என்று குறை கூறத் துவங்கினர்.

 

தெரியாத கடவுள்(Altar for Unknown God) என்று ஏதென்ஸ் நகர மக்கள் ஒரு பலி பீடம் அமைத்திருந்தனர் . அந்த பெயர் தெரியாத கடவுளுடன் ரிக் வேத  க -வையும் ஒப்பிடத்துவங்கினர்.

 

‘க’ என்பது பிரஜாபதியைக் குறிக்கும், உயிரினங்களுக்கு எல்லாம் கடவுள் அவர்; அவைகளை எல்லாம் படைத்தவர் அவர் என்று வேதமே சொல்லியும் அவர்களுக்கு சந்தேகம் தீர்ந்தபாடில்லை.

க-வை வைத்து  யாருடைய என்ற எழுத்தும் பல உரிச் சொற்களும் உருவாயின. இவை எல்லாம் மொழி வளர்ச்சி பற்றிய விஷயங்கள்.

 

‘க’ என்பது பிரஜாபதி என்பதால் யாகத்திலும் அவருக்கு ஆகுதி அளிக்கப்பட்டது. இது எல்லாம் வெளிநாட்டினரை திகைக்க வைத்தது. வேத கால ரிஷிகளுக்கு முட்டாள் பட்டம் கட்டியே வழக்கம் என்பதால் சிலேடை அர்த்தம் புரியாமல், இது சிறுபிள்ளைத்தனமான ஒரு கண்டுபிடிப்பு என்றெல்லாம் கட்டுரை எழுதினர்.

 

சுருக்கமாக சொல்ல வேண்டுமால் ‘க’  என்பதன் சிலேடை அர்த்தம் புரியாமல் – அதை குறை கூறினர்.

 

எகிப்தில் இறந்த மன்னன், கழுகு வடிவில் வான மண்டலத்துக்குச் செல்லுவதாக எகிப்திய பிரமிடு  இலக்கியம் சொல்லும். ‘க’ என்பது மனிதனின் ஆத்மா என்றும் சொல்லும். இந்தியாவிலும் மனர் பறவை வடிவத்தில் மேலுலகம் செல்லுவதாக சம்ஸ்கிருத ஸ்லோகம் உள்ளது. ஆக ‘க’ என்பது கடவுள், ‘க’ என்பது ஆன்மா; க’’ என்பது படைப்புக் கடவுளான பிரஜாபதி/பிரம்மா. ‘க’ என்பது பறவை வடிவில் காட்டப்படும்.

ரிக்வேதத்தில் (10-121) வரும் கவிதை!

 

1.முதல் முதலில் தங்க முட்டை (ஹிரண்யகர்ப்பம்) எழுந்தது. அவர் பிறந்தவுடன் படைப்புகளுக்கு எல்லாம் கடவுள் ஆனார். அவர் வானத்தையும் பூமியையும் வைத்திருந்தார் யார் இந்தக் கடவுள்? யாருக்கு பிரசாதத்தைப் படைப்போம்?

 

(இதில் யாருக்கு என்ற இடத்தில் பிரஜாபதிக்கு என்று சிலேடை அர்த்தத்தில் படிக்க வேண்டும். ஏனெனில் க என்றால் யார்; க என்றால் பிரஜாபதி; இந்த சிலேடை பொருள் தெரியாமல் வெள்ளைத் தோல்கள் முழித்தன!)

 

2.யார் ஒருவர் உயிர் அளிக்கிறாரோ, யார் ஒருவர் பலம் அளிக்கிறாரோ, யாருடைய கட்டளைக்கு எல்லாக் கடவுளரும் கீழ்ப் படிகின்றனரோ அவர்தான் அழியாதவர் யார் இவர்? யாருக்கு படைப்புகளைப் படைப்போம்?

 

(முன்னர் காட்டியது போல யார்= என்ற இடத்தில் எல்லாம் பிரஜாபதி என்றும் படிக்கலாம்)

3.யார் தனது மகிமையாலுலகின் ஒரே மன்னர் ஆனாரோ யார் இரு கால், நான்கு கால் உயிரினங்களுக்கு தலைவரோ — யார் இவர்? யாரை நாம் வணங்கி காணிக்கைகளைச் செலுத்துவோம்?

 

4.யார் தனது சக்தியால் பனி மூடிய மலைகளையும் கடலையும் ஒன்றாக வைத்திருக்கிறாரோ- இடையே ரசா என்ற நதியுடன்– யார் கைகளில் வானத்தின் இரண்டு பகுதிகள் இருக்கின்றனவோ அவர் யார்? எவரை வணங்கி நம் காணிக்கைகளைச் செலுத்துவது?

 

5.யார் வானத்தையும் பூமியையும் திடமாக வைத்திருக்கிறாரோ யார் மூலம் வானம் நிலைத்து நிற்கிறதோ யார் இடைப்பட்ட பகுதியை வைத்து இருக்கிறாரோ யார் அவர்? யாருக்கு படைப்புகளைத் தருவது?

 

6.யார் மூலம் சூரியன் பிரகாசிக்கிறான்?யார் அவர்? யாருக்கு படைப்புகளைத் தருவது?

7.வெள்ளம்/பிரளயம் வந்தபோது உயிர்க்கருக்களுடனும் தீயுடனும் அதிலிருந்து உருவானவர் கடவுளரின் உயிர் மூச்சு– யார் அவர்? யாருக்கு படைப்புகளைத் தருவது?

8.யார் தக்ஷாவுடன் (படைப்பு சக்தி) வந்த பிரளயத்தை பார்த்தாரோ – யாக யக்ஞங்களைக் கொண்டு வந்தாரோ– கடவுள்களில் எல்லாம் ஒரே கடவுளரோ– யார் அவர்? யாருக்கு காணிக்கைகளைப் படைப்பது?

 

9.பூமியையும் வானத்தையும் படைத்த அவர் நமக்கு எந்தத் தீங்கும் இழைக்கக் கூடாது. அவருடைய சட்ட திட்டங்கள் உண்மையானவை. தண்ணீரைப் படைத்தவர் அவரே– யார் அவர்? யாருக்கு காணிக்கைகளைப் படைப்பது?

 

10.ஓ பிரஜாபதியே! படைப்புக் கடவுளே! உம்மைத் தவிர எல்லா உயிரினங்களையும் காப்பவர் எவர்? உனக்கு நாங்கள் காணிக்கைகளைச் செலுத்துகிறோம். எங்கள் ஆசைகளைப் பூர்த்தி செய்வாயாக நாங்கள் செல்வத்துக்கு அதிபதியாகட்டும்.

 

மிக மிகத் தெளிவாக பிரஜாபதியை/ பிரம்மாவைத் துதிக்கும் பாடல் என்பதை கடைசி மந்திரம் தெளிவாவக் காட்டுகிறது.

 

ஆனால் யார் (க= பிரம்மா=பிரஜாபதி) என்ற சிலேடை புரியாமல் வெளிநாட்டுக் கிராக்கிகள் முழி முழி என்று முழித்தன!

 

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Mysterious PURUSA in the Hindu Vedas!(Post No.3985)

Research article Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 9 June 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 11-37 am

 

Post No. 3985

 

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English word PERSON is derived from the Sanskrit word PURUSA. It is used in grammar, relationships and philosophy. If one studies the ways this word is used in the Hindu scriptures, one would realise how difficult it would be to understand Vedic symbolism.

 

In Tamil families, they use the word ‘purusa’ to mean one’s husband. In Sanskrit and English grammar, we use it for First person, second person and third person. In the Vedas, they use it to denote MAN. Lot of number symbolism come with it.

1.Purusa is the generic term for Man in the Rig Veda and later in the Atharva Veda (7-104-15; 10-97-4 etc; AV 3-21-1;5-21-4 etc.

 

  1. Man (Purusa) is composed of five parts (AV 12-3-10)
  2. Man (Purusa) is composed of 16 parts (Aitareya Brahmana
  3. Man (Purusa) is composed of 20 parts (Pancavimsa Brahmana)
  4. Man (Purusa) is composed of 21 parts (Taittiriya Samhita and four more books
  5. Man (Purusa) is composed of 24 parts (Satapata Brahmana 6-2-1-23)
  6. Man (Purusa) is composed of 25 parts (Sankalayana Srauta Sutra 16-12)

 

One has to get proper explanation from his Guru to understand all these. No translation will help. Vedic language has hidden meaning.

 

Tamil poets – Alwars and Nayanmars- used this type of number symbolism around 8th century CE. But Vedic poets used it thousands of years before them. This shows how advanced they were in thinking. Foreigners couldn’t understand all these symbolisms and branded them as primitive. Modern research show that the foreign authors were primitive!

Man is the Master of Animals

 

Man is the first of animals (Satapata Brahmana 6-2-1-18)

(This goes very well with the theory of evolution and psychologists’ belief)

“Man is a rational animal — so at least I have been told. Throughout a long life I have been looked diligently for evidence in favour of this statement, but so far I have not had the good fortune to come across it.”[— Betrand Russel

“Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. Society is something that precedes the individual. Anyone who either cannot lead the common life or is so self-sufficient as not to need to, and therefore does not partake of society, is either a beast or a god. ”–Aristotle

 

Man is the Master of Animals (which is shown in Indus Valley Seal, Bahrain/Dilmun seal Celtic seal; pleasesee my earlier research article on Pasupati seal of Indus valley)—Kathaka Samhita 20-10

 

Height of a Man

Tamil literature says a man’s height is eight times of his hand/Saan (though the modern meaning of Saan is the length of one hand’s extended fingers, the old meaning must be different)

 

The height of a man is four Aratnis (cubits) accordint to Katyayana Srauta Sutra (here again Aratni means length of an extended arm; it may vary between 18 and 21 inches). Wherever such human limbs used one has to use his own foot or hand or arm for the measurement.)

Purusa itself is used as a measure of length (satapata Brahmana and Taittiriya Samhita). This is also interesting. Even today Indian villages use this measurement. When they want to say how seep is a tank or a lake they will says Four men depth or three men depth. So, Purusa is used to mention the length.

 

Since Vedas say a man’s life is 100 years, the term is used to denote the length of one’s life and generation as well , a generation (Taittiriya Samhita 2-1-5-5; dvi purusa= two generations- Aitareya Brahmana 8-7).

 

Strangely purusa is used for the pupil of the eye as well (Satapata Brahmana and Brhad Aranyaka Upanishad)

Purusa also meant Cosmic man, Brahman in the Vedas. Purusa Sukta (10-90) in the Rig Veda sings the glory of cosmic man with thousand heads and thousand feet.

Mysterious PURUSA MRGA!

The ‘man wild beast’ (Purusa Mrga) occurs in the list of Asvamedha Sacrifice list in the Yajur Veda (Taittiriya Samhita 5-5-15-1)

Zimmer thinks it MAY be an ape; according to him it meant an ape in Atharva Veda(6-38-4; 19-39-4)

But Bloomfield and Whitney don’t agree with him.

The mystery continues! were there apes in India those days in North India? Mrga also mean deer; was it a particular type of deer or a male deer?

 

More Mysterious PURUSA HASTIN!

Purusa Hastin means A Man with a Hand! It is also found in the list of Asvamedha Yaga list of Yajur Veda (Vajasaneyi Samhita 24-29; Maitrayani Sahita 3-14-8)

 

Hastin – an animal with a hand is used for elephant in later literature. But Purusa Hastin and Purusa Mrga are strange words which have not been used in the sense of ape.

Bhima’s encounter with Purushamiruga is a later story.

Books used: Book of Quotations

Vedic Index by A A Macdonell and A B Keith

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