Post No. 8461

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“PANINI speaks more than once of affixes which are ‘seen’ or of a vowel which is ‘seen’ in words. Panini –3-2-178, 3-3-130, 3-2-75, 6-3-137, 3-2-101, 5-3-14

Kaiyata amongst others , refers to a written text of this grammar, even when there is no necessity whatever of making allusion to such a circumstance.

And when Prof Mmuller , as we shall presently see, avails himself of so late an authority  as the Mimansa Varttikas of Kumarila  to prove or to make plausible facts concerning the highest antiquity , I will quote , as a counterpart, another late work which introduces to us the god Siva himself as recommending the writing and wearing of grammatical texts as a means for the attainment of boons and the prevention of evils. The passage alluded to occurs in the chapter of a mystical dialogue between Siva and his wife, called JNAANA KAANDASESHA- RAHASYA, where Siva after having explained to Parvati the letters of the alphabet, concludes his instruction with the following words:-

If a man writes this grammatical explanation on a birch leaf, with a mixture of yellow pigment gorochana and saffron , or if he has it written by a scribe with the quill of a porcupine on his neck or his arm or head, he becomes, after three days, free from all disease; and if a wiseman, wishing progeny, reads and retains it attentively, he is sure to obtain a son , who will be like me, from his (previously) barren wife. If a battle rages or royal family spreads terror, or a tiger causes alarm or on similar occasions, all danger vanishes in merely remembering – this grammatical explanation – what further shall I tell you etc.


Max muller quotes, it is true, a passage from the Mahabharata , and one from Kumarila’s Varttikas, which condemn , the one who writing of the Veda, and the other learning it from a text/book; but I hold that neither quotation proves anything against the practice of writing  the Veda at or before Panini’s time.

In Mahabharata , we read ,

Those who sell the Vedas and those who write them , those who defile/corrupt them , they shall go to hell – Anusasana Parva 1645

Kumarila says,

That knowledge of truth is worthless which is acquired from the Veda , if the Veda has not been rightly comprehended, if it has been learnt from writing, or been received from a Sudra.”


“Max Muller himself says in his book,

The ancient literature of India was continually learnt by heart; and even at the present day when MSS have become so common, some of its more sacred portions must still be acquired by the pupil from the mouth of a teacher, and not from MSS”.

–This is the reply given to Max Muller by Theodor Goldstucker in his book ‘Panini – His Place in Sanskrit Literature’.

My comments

Even today Veda Patasalas (Vedic Schools) in Tamil Nadu teaches it only by mouth.

2000 year old Tamil Sangam literature also called the Vedas ‘Ezuthaa Karpu’ in Kuruntokai, which means Vedas are learnt without (from) writing. Periya Puranam, which is nearly 1000 years old, says  ‘Unwritten Veda was given by Lord Siva who knows writing’ .

Tamils are very clear about it even 2000 years ago. Max Muller’s argument that Hindus did not know writing or a book became absurd after the discovery of Asokan Inscriptions throughout India and Indus-Sarasvati seals. Max Muller died in 1900, before all these discoveries. Goldstucker who died even before Max Muller, had a very clear and perspective outlook about writing in India.

Goldstucker is proved 100 percent correct!

My second comment is about the use of Porcupine quill. Even today Brahmins in Tamil Nadu use it to get a male child. On the day of Seemantham of a pregnant woman (done in 3rd or 6th month of pregnancy), the husband has to part her hair on the head with the quill of a porcupine. It is a sort of acupuncture or acupressure treatment. So this has been practised for long throughout India, if we go by the sloka in the above book.

Long live Goldstucker!

Tags-  writing, Gold Stucker, Panini, Siva on writing, Porcupine quill

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