Rivers in the Rigveda and Panini’s Ashtadhyayi-2 (Post No.9779)

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Post No. 9779

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In this second part; let us look at the rivers in the Rig Veda and compare them with the rivers in Panini’s Ashtadhyayi.

We must remember that none of them wrote a book on geography. I wanted to point out the size of the books as well. Rig Veda is a book with over 1000 hymns running to 10,000 mantras running to 20,000 lines; but lot of repetitions are there. But we can expect more from the Rig Veda than from Panini who has only less than 4000 pithy sayings/Sutras on grammar.

We have over 30 rivers in the RV. And over 125 direct references are there to the rivers mentioned. Over 100 references to seas and oceans are in the Rig Veda. Apart from this, innumerable river, boat, sea, lake similes are there.

We have ancient rivers in the RV which are not found anywhere else. The best example is Aapayaa mentioned in the Third Mandala. No one can identify it.

We see a beautiful ode to Three Rivers by Visvamitra there.

In the matter of rivers, all the mischiefs of Griffith and gang are exposed by Shrikant Talageri in his scholarly work.

(Following list is taken from ‘THE RIGVEDA- A HISTORICAL ANALYSIS BY SHRIKANT G TALAGERI’.)

PLEASE SEE THE CONCLUSIONS AT THE END

Rivers in Ten Mandalas of RV

Sarasvati

1-3-10/12, 1-89-3, 1-13-9,, 1-142-9,, 1-164-49,52, 1-188-8

2-1-11, 2-3-8,2-30-8,2-32-8,2-41-16/18

3-4-8,3-23-4,3-54-13

No Sarasvati in Fourth Mandala

5-5-8,5-42-12,5-43-11,5-46-2

6-49-7,6-50-12,6-52-6,6-61-1/7, 6-10-11,6-13-14

7-2-8,7-9-5,7-35-11,7-36-6,7-39-5,7-40-3,7-95-1/2, 7-95-4/6,7-96-1,3/6

8-21-17,18, 8-38-10,8-54-4

9-5-8,9-67-32,9-81-4

10-17-7/9,10-30-12,10-64-9,10-65-1,10-65-13,10-66-5,10-75-5,10-110-8,10-131-5,

10-141-5,10-184-2

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Sindhu

1-83-1,1-44-12,1-122-6,1-126-1,1-186-5,1-94-6,1-94, refrain in the last verses of 1-96,1-98, 1-100,1-103,1-105,1-115

Sindhu is absent in Mandala 2&3

4-30-12,4-54-6,4-55-3

5-53-9

No Sindhu in 6&7

8-12-3,8-20-24,25, 8-25-14,8-26-18,8-72-7

9-97-58

10-64-9,10-65-13,10-66-11,10-75-1,3,4,6,9

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Ganga

Jahnavi 1-116-9,3-58-6

6-45-31, 10-75-5

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Yamuna

5-52-17,7-18-19,10-75-5

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Rasa

1-112-12,4-43-6,8-72-13,9-41-6,10-75-6,10-108-1,2,10-121-4

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Apaya

3-23-4,

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Gomati

8-24-30,10-75-6

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Sarayu

4-300-18,5-53-9,10-64-9

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Asikni 7-5-3,8-20-25,10-75-5

Gauri 1-164-4,

Vipss 3-33-1,

Sutudri 3-33-1,10-75-5

Drsadvati 3-23-4,

Kusavaa 4-18-8

Parushni 4-22-2,7-18-8/9, 8-75-15,10-75-5

Vipas 3-31-1,4-30-11,

Kubha 5-53-9,10-75-6

Krumu 5-53-9,10-75-6

Anitabhaa 5-53-9

Asmanvati 10-53-8

Amsumati8-96-13

Aarjikiiyaa 8-7-29, 8-64-11, 9-65-23

Suvaastu 8-19-371

Susoma 10-75-5

Susartu 10-75-6

Sveti 10-75-6

Svetyaavari 8-26-18

Mehatnu 10-75-6

Marudvrdhaa 10-75-5

Trstaamaa 10-75-6

Vitastaa 10-75-5

Hariyupia 6-27-5

Yavyaavati 6-27-6

Prayiyu 8-19-37

Vaiyiyu 8-19-37

River Sarasvati has the highest number of references.

SHRIANT  has arranged the Ten Mandalas in chronological order and made comments on the basis of the order.

He has found out Vedic Hindus migrated towards West from the East.

He has pointed out the blunders in Griffith’s translation and interpretation.

RV 3-33 and 10-75-5 and 10-75-76 are important.

The evidence of the rivers in the RIGVEDA is unanimous in identifying to the east of Sarasvati as the original homeland of the Vedic Hindus.

The reference in 1-116-9 associates river Jahnavi with sage Bharadvaja,Divodasa and Gangetic dolphin. It is clear that the river is specially associated with the oldest period of the Rigveda .

The Sarasvati is so important in the whole of the Rigveda that it is worshipped as one of the three great goddesses in the Apri suktas of all ten family composers . The Indus finds no place in these Apri suktas.

In the Nadi Stuthi, nearest river Ganges is mentioned first and then other rivers are mentioned. Griffith deliberately misleads the readers by adding a foot note that the most distant river (Ganges) is mentioned first. And in the same way in 3-33 also he adds a note to say ‘this shows the eastward expansion of the Vedic Aryans. but it is actually the Hindus westward march!

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My comments

In RV 3-33 there is a beautiful ode to rivers. It is the fifth dialogue poem if you start from Mandala 1. Viswamitra says to the rivers ‘I have come from far away. The far away is Bihar. But Griffith mischievously puts the ‘far away’ beyond India’s borders. How do we know whether Shrikant is right or Griffith is right ?. Though Shrikant has stated enough reasons I will add one more point.

In the poems regarding rivers we see Jamadagni, Visvamitra, Bharadvaja and other seers. The three seers mentioned above are in Valmiki Ramayana as well. So we know for sure Visvamitra’s journey to Mithila in Bihar- Nepal border. We know where Janaka, Sita’s father ruled. We know Rama’s victory over Parasurama, son of Jamadagni. All these places the far away in Bihar- Nepal border and not Afghanistan or Iran . Mischief maker Griffith confesses in every other hymn of Rig Veda that he cant understand and yet he never stopped damaging the Vedas. Hindus must be careful about the 30 +++ clowns and jokers in the Max Muller gang.

—subham—

 Tags- Rigveda, Rivers, Griffith, Westward , Hindus March,Panini

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