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ஒரு குட்டிக் கதை: மனதுக்கும் சொல்லுக்கும் சண்டை! (Post No.4353)

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Date: 31 October 2017

 

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Post No. 4353

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வேதங்களின் துதிப்பாடல்களை அடுத்துத் தோன்றியவை பிராமணங்கள் என்னும் உரைநடை நூல்கள். கிரேக்கர்கள் புத்தகம் எழுதுவதற்கு முன்னரே தோன்றியவை இவை. எல்லாக் கதைகளும் உரையாடல்களும், சங்கேத மொழியில் எழுதப்பட்டிருக்கும். மொழி, சொல் பற்றி 3000 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்னரே எழுதினார்கள் என்றால், இவர்கள் எவ்வளவு நாகரீக முதிர்ச்சி அடைந்தார்கள் என்பதைப் புரிந்து கொள்ளலாம்.

 

யார் பெரியவர்? யார் சிறந்தவர் என்று மனதுக்கும் வாக்கிற்கும் (வாக்= சொல்) வாக்குவாதம் ஏற்பாட்டது. நானே சிறந்தவன் என்று இரண்டும் கூறின.

மனம் சொன்னது: ஏ, சொல்லே, நான் நினைப்பதைத்தானே நீ பேசுகிறாய். நான் ஒரு விஷயத்தைப் புரிந்துகொண்ட பின்னர் தானே நீ அதைச் சொல்ல முடியும்; ஆகையால் நானே உன்னை விடச் சிறந்தவன்; உயர்ந்தவன் — என்றது.

 

வாக்கு சொல்லியது: நீ என்னதான் நினைத்தாலும் நான் சொன்னால்தானே மற்றவர்களுக்குத் தெரியும்; ஆகையால் தகவல் தரும் நானே உன்னைக் காட்டிலும் உயர்ந்தவன் என்றது.

 

 

இரண்டும் தொடர்ந்து வாதாடின; பின்னர் வா, நாம் பிரஜாபதியிடம் (பிரம்மா) முடிவு கேட்போம் என்று புறப்பட்டன. இரு தரப்பு வாதங்களையும் செவிமடுத்த பிரஜாபதி செப்பினார்: “மனதே பெரியவன்; நீ அது நினைப்பதைச் சொன்னாலும், அதைப்போல, அதைப் பின்பற்றி நடக்கிறாய் அல்லவா? ஆகையால்நீ இரண்டாம் தரம்தான்-

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இப்படிப் பிரஜாபதி சொன்னவுடன் வாக்கிற்குக் கோபம் வந்தது. “அப்படியா சேதி! நீ என்னை நிராகரித்தாய் அல்லவா? உன்னையும் நான் நிராகரிப்பேன். எங்கு எங்கெல்லாம் யாக யக்ஞங்கள் மந்திரங்கள் உச்சரிக்கப்படுகின்றனவோ, அங்கெல்லாம் உன் பெயர் வரும்போது அவர்கள் உச்சரிக்காமல் போகட்டும் -உன் பெயர் என் சொல்லால் பிரகாசிக்கக்கூடாது” என்றது.

 

ஆகையால்தான் வேத மந்திர உச்சாடனத்தில் பிரஜாபதி பெயர் வருகையில் மெல்லிய- சன்னமான குரலில் மந்திரம் சொல்லுகின்றனர்.

 

இந்தக் கதையை ஆழ்ந்து யோசித்தால் நிறைய தத்துவங்கள் விளங்கும்.

 

ஒருவர் சொல்லும் சொல், தேன் போல இருக்கலாம். ஆனால் மனதில் விஷம் வைத்திருக்கலாம். ஆகவே மனதளவில் சுத்தம் வேண்டும்; ஆகையால் மனதே உயர்ந்தது.

 

ஒருவர் பலர் அறிய அழகாக மந்திரங்களைச் சொல்லலாம். ஆனால் அவர் மனது காமம், க்ரோதம், பேராசையால் மூடப்பட்டிருக்கலாம். அவர் சொல்லும் மந்திரத்தை வைத்து அவரை எடைபோட முடியாது. ஆகையால் மனமே பெரியது.

 

இப்படி யோசிக்க யோசிக்க நிறைய விளக்கங்கள் கிடைக்கும்.

 

ஜபம் செய்யும்போதுகூட வாயால் மந்திரத்தைச் சொல்லுவதைவிட மனதால் சொல்லுவது பல மடங்கு பலன் தரும் என்பர் பெரியோர்.

 

ஆக மனமே பெரியது என்பதை நாமும் ஒப்புக்கொண்டு உதட்டளவில் பேசாமல் மனத்தளவில் பேசுவோமாக!

இந்தக் கதை சதபத பிராமணத்தில் உள்ளது.

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-Subham, Subham–

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Salt Doll Stories explain Brahman

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By London Swaminathan
Post No 948 Date 1st April 2014.

Salt Doll Stories & Chemistry Experiments explain ‘Satyam, Janam, Anantam Brahma’

Brahman is the word used for God in the Upanishads. Sri Sathya Sai Baba popularised the Taittiriya Upanishad line ‘Satyam Jnanam Anantam Brahma’ through his sweet and beautiful Bhajan song, meaning God is Truth, God is Knowledge and God is Infinite. Though great philosopher saints Shankara , Ramanuja and Madhwa elaborated on this line, experiencing Brahman is explained the best in the short and crisp stories of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa.

Earlier, the Vedic seers explained great doctrines through simple experiments like we do it today in the chemistry labs of schools and colleges. Many chemical salts are used in the laboratory for qualitative and quantitative analysis experiments. Vedic seers asked young students to bring a handful of salt and asked them to put it in a glass of water. Then questions were asked to find where the salt had gone and how it disappeared, did the water taste differently in various parts of the cup etc. Through this simple experiment seers explained the nature and qualities of God. They used the tiny seeds of the Banyan tree as well. Tamil saints and Siddhas (enlightened souls) also used the same salt doll similes in their verses. Earliest reference comes from a 2000 year old Tamil book called Kalitokai.

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Ramakrishna’s Stories

Story 1
A salt doll went to measure the depth of the ocean. It wanted to tell others how deep the water was. But this it could never do, for no sooner did it get into the water than it melted. Now, who was there to report the ocean’s depth?
What Brahman is cannot be described in Samadhi one attains the knowledge of Brahman – one realises Brahman. In that state reasoning stops altogether, and man becomes mute. He has no power to describe the nature of Brahman.

Story 2
Once four friends, in the course of a walk, saw a place enclosed by a wall. The wall was very high. They all became eager to know what was inside. One of them climbed to the top of the wall. What he saw on looking inside made him speechless with wonder. He only cried Ah! Ah! And dropped in. he could not give any information about what he saw. The others too climbed the wall, uttered the same cry,’ Ah! Ah!’ and jumped in. now who could tell what was inside!
What Brahman is cannot be described. Even he who knows it cannot talk about it.

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Story 3
The husband of a young girl has come to his father in law’s house and seated in the drawing-room with other young men of his age. The girl and her friends are looking at them through the window. Her friends do not know her husband and ask her pointing to one young man, “Is that your husband? “No”, she answers, smiling. They point to another young man and ask if he is her husband. Again she answers, “No”. They repeat the question referring to a third, and she gives the same answer. At last they point to her husband ask, “Is he the one?” She says neither yes nor no, but only smiles and keep quiet. Her friends realize that he is her husband.

One becomes silent on realising the true nature of Brahman.

There is a proverb in Tamil, “Those who have seen never talk; those who talk have never seen (the God)” (Kandavar Vindilar; Vindavar Kandilar).

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A Siddha by name Sivavakkiyar uses the simile of mixing water with salt to establish the truth that Lord Vishnu and Lord Shiva are one and the same. Once the water is mixed with the salt it becomes unseparable. Shiva and Vishnu are one.

Another Tamil saint Tirumular says in Tirumanthiram that the dumb are trying to describe that which cannot be described.

The following Upanishad line is translated in Tamil verses by several Tamil saints in several of their verses:

Yato vacho nivartante aprapya manasa saha (Whence all speech turn back with the mind, not reaching It). Taittiriya Upanishad

Mozikkum winaivukkum ettatha nin tirumurtham (Abirami Andhati) in Tamil.

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60 SECOND INTERVIEW WITH ADI SHANKARA

Adi Sankaracharya

(Questions are imaginary; Answers are true excerpts from BhajaGovindam aand Viveka Chudamani) –S Swaminathan

Q : Shankarji, Namasthe and Vanakkam.what is your philosophy?  Could you please tell us in one or two sentences?

A: Brahman alone is real, the universe is unreal, and the individual soul is no other than the universal Soul ( ”Brahma Sathyam -Jagan Mithya- Jeevo Brahma Eva , Na Aparaha” ).

Q. You have said it beautifully well. But laymen may not understand it.

A: Maya can be destroyed by the realisation of the pure Brahman, just as the mistaken idea of a snake is removed by the discrimination of the rope.

Q. Swami, This is high philosophy indeed. But is there any short cut for reaching God?

A: Through the company of the good, there arises non attachment:

Through non attachment there arises freedom from delusion:

When there is freedom from delusion, there is the Immutable Reality:

On experiencing immutable reality there comes the state of ‘liberated in life’(Jeevan Mukti).

Q: Oh, Swamiji, now I remember the Bhaja Govindam sloka ‘Satsangatve nissangatwam, Nissangatve Nirmohatvam——–‘.Ok,  A lot of people believe in simple things like holy dip in Ganges etc. Is it not good then?

A: To one who has studied the Bhagavad Gita even a little,

Who has sipped at least a drop of Ganges water,

Who has worshipped at least once Lord Murari,

To him there is no quarrel with Yama, the Lord of Death.

Q: Shankarji, only now you have come down to our level. We understand that you have gone round the Holy Bharat several times by foot when there was no vehicle, no bridges, no gun to protect you from wild animals .How did you do it. Aren’t you scared?

A: There is only Brahman, the one without a second, which is within all, homogenous, infinite, endless, and all pervading: there is no duality whatsoever in it (Eka mevadwayam Brahma neha nanasthi  kinchana)

Q. Yeah, we understand fear comes only when you think there is another thing.  Swami, we believe in Karma.  Is in it that even meeting you today destined already?

A: Through the realization of one’s identity with Brahman, all the accumulated actions of a hundred crore of cycles come to nought.

Q: That is a good news. That means no one needs to fear Karma. Now In India, we have got a lot of Babas and Swamijis with hundreds of thousands of followers. Aren’t we are going in the right direction?  I think Your Holiness must be happy about it.

A:One ascetic with matted-locks, one with shaven-head, one with hairs pulled out one by one, another parading in his ochre-robes- these are fools who, though seeing, do not see. Indeed these different disguises or apparels are only for their belly’s sake.

Q. Thanks for clarifying, Swamiji. Could you please give a simple message to our youths?

A: Childhood skips off on sport and play.

Youth flies off in pursuits of love making.

As one grows older one he is drowned in worry about the security and future of his wife and children.

One’s whole life gets spent in some kind of worry or other. And at no stage does man find time to lift his thoughts to God.  Seek God (Bhaja Govindam), Seek God, Seek God.

Q. You are a keen observer of Nature. You even escaped from the grip of a crocodile when you were young in Kaladi, Kerala. You tricked your mum by saying the crocodile will leave you alive if she permits you to enter Sanyas (ascetic life).Tell us what can nature teach us?

A: The deer, the elephant, the moth, the fish and the black bee-these five have died due to one or other of the five senses, viz. Sound etc. through their own attachment.

Whoever seeks to realise the self by devoting himself to the nourishment of the body, proceeds to cross a river by catching hold of a crocodile, mistaking it for a log.

Q : Shankar ji ,we would recommend you to be entered in the Guinness Book of records under three categories  : 1.The man who walked around the sub continent several times by foot-for longest Pada Yatra 2.The man who wrote highest number of commentaries on ancient texts and and 3. For strengthening the unity of India by establishing four centres (Mutts) in four corners of India :Sringeri, Dwaraka, Kashmir and Puri.

Namasthe. Thanks (Dhanyavad)

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