SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBER NINE IN HINDU & OTHER CULTURES (Post No.7146)

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Nine Gems (Nava Ratna)

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Number Nine is used in religion for its magical qualities. Hindus call their long hymns  ‘Sahasranama’ (1000 names) but in reality it is 1008 names. In the same way 108 names for shorter hymns. The added number will be magical Nine. Nine has some rare qualities which other numbers haven’t got. Look at the attachments for more information. It explains the way number NINE is used in different cultures.

Nava Ratri Dance ( Nava= Nine)

The list of Nine Siddhars is:

  1. Sathyanathar
  2. Sadhoganathar
  3. Aadhinathar
  4. Anadhinathar
  5. Vegulinathar
  6. Madhanganathar
  7. Machaendranathar
  8. Gadaendranathar or Gajendranathar
  9. Korakkanathar

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NINE CELESTIAL BODIES (NAVAGRAHAS) & THEIR SHRINES

Surya-Sun- Suryanarkoil (Tamilnadu), Mathand (Kashmir), Konarak (Orissa)

Modhera (Gujarat)

Chandra- Moon-Tingalur(Tamilnadu), Tiruppati (Andhra)

Angaraka- Mars-Tirupparankundram, Palani

Budha-Mercury- Madurai temple

Guru-Jupiter- Tiruchendur temple

Sukra-Venus- Srirangam temple

Sani-Saturn-Tirunallaru (Tamilnadu)

Rahu- Ascending node- Sri Kalahasti (Andhra)

Ketu- Descending node- do-

NINE CELESTIAL BODIES (NAVAGRAHAS)&THEIR HOUSES

Surya

Chandra

Angaraka (Sevvai)

Budha

Guru

Sukra

Sani

Rahu

Ketu

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NINE GEMS (NAVA RATNAM) & THEIR DEVATAS

Manikkam (Ruby)

Maragataham (Emerald)

Vairam (Diamond)

Neelam (Sapphire)

Pushparagam (Topaz)

Vaduryam (Cat’s Eye)

Gomethakam (Onyx/Sardonyx)

Muthu (Pearl)

Pavalam (Coral)

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. NINE AGAMAS

Karanam

Kamikam

Veeram

Chintham

Vathulam

Yamalam

Kaloththaram

Subrabedam

Makudam

Another tradition says 28 agamas:kamikam,yogasam,sinthiyam,karanam, asitham,diptam,sukshmam,sagasiram,amsuman,subrabedam,vijayam,niswasam,swayambuvam,agneyam,viram,rauram,makudam,vimalam,chandragnanam,mukalimbam,purorkitam,lalitham,sidhdham,Santhanam, sarvoktam,parameswaram,kiranam,vathulam.

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9 STAGES OF BHAKTI

Prahlada explains the nine Sadhanas (instruments) of Bhakti (devotion) to Hiranyakasipu in a sloka in Bhagavata. They are

Sravana- Listenig to devotional songs

Kirtana- Singing devotional songs

Smarana- Thinking of God

Padasevana- Going to temple/on pilgrimage

Archana- Worshipping God with flowers etc.

Vandana- Bowing to him and his devotees

Dasya- Becoming His slave

Sakhya- Treating God your companion

Atmanivedana- Offering yourself to Him

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STORY OF THE BELL THAT TRAVELED TO 60 TOWNS! (Post No.7118)

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Sri Venkaiah Naidu , Vice President of India, released a new postage stamp in May 2019 to commemorate the 750th birth anniversary of Sri Vedanta Desika, the great Vaishnavite philosopher.

Vedanta Desikan wrote over 100 books. He was considered the incarnation of The Bell that Brahma used in the worship of Lord Venkateswara in Tirumalai (Thiruppahi) Temple

 ‘Sri Vedanta Desikan is one of the most prominent preceptors in the Srivaishnava tradition and one of the most effulgent luminaries to have graced this land’, the Vice President said.

The Vice President termed Sri Vedanta Desikan’s scholarship as truly outstanding and said that he had authored brilliant poems, prose, drama, epics, commentaries, scientific texts and philosophical treatises in Sanskrit, Tamil, Prakrit and Manipravalam.

Shri Naidu emphasized that Vedanta Desikan was much more than a spiritual teacher and said that he was a multi-faceted personality– a scientist, a logician, a mathematician, a literary genius, a linguist, a military strategist and much more.

THE STORY OF THE BELL

To commemorate the 700th birth anniversary of the great saint a silver bell was made and sent to 60 towns to spread the message of Sri Desikan.

Following interesting anecdotes are in the commemoration Souvenir.

Why no bell is used inside the Balaji temple?

What happened to the Bell that Brahma used?

An old man’s contribution of heavier cup!

A man who won several cups in Tennis offered all his cups to make the bell; and then what happened?

A poor woman who came with a broken silver spoon.

Several interesting anecdotes like these are in the souvenir. Please see the attachments.

I have already given the story of the Shoes of Sringeri Shankaracharya that were sent to Benares Hindu University, Rama’s shoes that ruled Kosala Kingdom for 14 years and the other shoes of great men in the museums and Pujas in India and the Hindu Hymns on Shoes. Here is the Story of a Bell:-

Volume from the British Library in London

to be continued…………………………………..

Singapore is Sanskrit (Post No.7109)

Shiva in Singapore Museum

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All the encyclopaedias attribute the source of the name Singapore to the Sanskrit word Simhapura (Lion city). Singapore’s old history goes back to about 1300 CE. A prince from Sumatra island of Indonesia by name Sri Tri Bhuvana (also known as Sanga Neela Uttama) founded the Kingdom of Singapura (Lion Kingdom) in 1299. But the individual port cities are named at least for 2000 years. On either side of Singapore were powerful Hindu empires from the first century.

Shiva in Berlin (Germany) Museum

Simhapura is also interpreted as Sringa Puri (Horn of the Malayan peninsula). There is a debate this name- how come he named Simha (lion) to a place where there are no lions. The reason for this is,  lion is always associated with Kingship. The word Kesari (Kesa+ ari) meant Hair animal. That was the title of many Indian kings and Roman Kings. Kesari became Caesar in the West. We come across many Caesars including the most famous Julius Caesar/Kesari. Even Si Lanka, which has no lions, named itself as Simhala Desa (Lion country) 2500 years ago. People who don’t know the Hindu stories of Lion King gave stupid interpretations in Singapore and Ceylon (Sri Lanka). Singapore and Sri Lanka have lion in their flags or emblems. It simply means heroism with lion like kings.

More interesting is the word Malaya. This word has its origin both in Tamil and Sanskrit. In Tamil, it meant mountain and the most famous Malaya Parvata (Hill) is mentioned in both Tamil and Sanskrit literature. It has become synonymous with Sandal wood and southern breeze. In Tamil ‘Malai’ is mountain/hill. Since Malaya is divided by a mountain range Tamils might have called it Malaya desa. But the Sanskrit word Malaya has more meaning. It is in Mahabharata and many Sanskrit stories. Even King Rishabadeva’s son was called Malaya. Pandya kings had Malai (hill) in their flags and one Pandya was called Malayadwaja (one with mountain flag).

More interesting is the discovery of several Tamil and Sanskrit inscriptions in Malayan peninsula.

One of the oldest Hindu Kingdoms in the peninsula is mentioned in the Chinese History of the Liang Dynasty (502-556 CE) as lang- ya su. Later Malay and Javanese chronicles refereed to it as Lankasuka (Pleasure Island). Rajendra Choza won this place in 12th century and his Tamil inscription mentioned it as Lankasokam.

Two other Hindu kingdoms are mentioned in Chinese Chronicles Pan-pan where Brahmanas from India came to get gifts from the munificent king. Another one was Pa-hoang (Pahang). Sari – Pala- Varman sent an embassy to China from here in 449 CE.

Though a kingdom called Kantoli sent embassies to China, scholars are not able to identify it.

Only fragmentary Sanskrit inscriptions are available from Malaya. The Indian alphabets on them are ascribed to 4th or 5th centuries. Seven of the inscriptions were found in the centre, four in the northern part of Province Wellesley. Five of them were found in Ligor, two in Chaiya and one each in Keddah and Takua pa, according to R C Majumdar.

Other significant founds include a Cornelian seal in Perak with the Hindu name Sri Vishnu Varman. The characters point to fifth century. Slightly later in date is an inscription found near Keddah containing three verses from a Sutra of Madhyamika school. (We have one Sanskrit inscription of Kulothunga Choza period according to Wikipedia).

Swarnabhumi (Golden land) is used to refer to several regions from Malaya to Sumatra. At one time Malaya was also called Swarnabhumi.

(I will write about the Tamil Inscriptions in Malaya separately).

Xxx Subham xxx

New Siva, Agastya statues discovered in Vietnam (Post No.7099)

Mystery of seven Lingas
look at the marks of missing gem stones
Danang is in Central Vietnam

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Agastya and Kaundinya are the two Brahmins who established Hindu civilization all over South East Asia, from Indonesia to Vietnam. It lasted for 1500 years. Agastya statues found in Indonesia and Cambodia are already known. They are in different Museums around the world including V & A Museum of London.

New discovery of Eka Muka Linga and seven mysterious lingas with strange marks, Agastya statue etc. throw new light on the history of Vietnam. New book published about the Danang Museum in Vietnam has beautiful pictures. It has got good articles on the Pasupata cult and possible metal lingas in Ashta Murti form. Only seven lingas are found now without the gold, silver coverings and precious gem stones.

Still the scholars could not identify all the gods and ascetics. One statue is identified as Agastya, which is very different from the pot bellied short Agastyas found elsewhere in S E A countries. I wonder the unidentified ascetic statues has Kaundinya as well. Several gods have description as one male god, one female god. We need experts like renowned historian Dr R Nagaswamy to identify them.

One must be proficient in Sanskrit and other S E A languages. R C Majumdhar in his lectures has pointed (in 1930s) out how the Chinese distorted all the names.

I will give the list of distorted Place names and Personal names in another article.

Those who are interested in Shaivism and the culture of South East Asian countries will find this book very valuable.

See the details in the attached pictures.

Agastya without pot belly! a bit taller!!!
INSCRIPTION WITH SHIVA HYMN
unidentified
Apsaras
Dancing Shiva
AGASTYA IN KALLANAI, TAMIL NADU, INDIA
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AGASTYA IN V AND A MUSEUM, LONDON (FROM INDONESIA)

Bhagavad Gita -New Discovery (Post No.7100)

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Does this terracotta tablet from around 1,000 BCE depict Lord Krishna and Arjuna?

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A nine-cm wide terracotta artifact lies in Hong Kong, in the possession of an art dealer, but the inferences and interpretations from it could possibly lead to interesting revelations about the time period of the Indian epic Mahabharata and its occurrence.

A nine-cm wide terracotta artifact lies in Hong Kong, in the possession of an art dealer, but the inferences and interpretations from it could possibly lead to interesting revelations about the time period of the Indian epic Mahabharata and its occurrence.

The tablet depicts a man holding four horses, standing on the back of a half chariot with a spoked wheel. There are two figures in the chariot, one who is presumably the charioteer, while another has his hand pointed in a direction. Both the figures in the chariot have quivers that contain arrows. 

Curious to know more about the tablet, Jeremy Pine, the owner had sent a picture of it to Dr Nanditha Krishna, CPR Institute of Indological Research and requested her to share her interpretations of the same and its historical significance. Dr. Nanditha along with other historians and domain experts had studied the image and historical texts to draw inferences.

According to a document shared with the media, the tabled is said to have been authenticated by Oxford Authentication using Thermoluminescence (TL testing) on May 14, 2019. The result of which states that the terracotta was fired between 2300 and 3600 years ago i.e. 1600 to 300 BCE. 

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HINDU TEMPLES IN VIETNAM (Post No.7096)

Vishnu in Viet Nam

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Date: 14 OCTOBER 2019
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Pedestal with Ramayana Scenes

Hindu temples in Vietnam can be broadly classified into two groups. They are modern and ancient. The modern temples are constructed by the migrant business community in the last few hundred years. The ancient temples were constructed when the Hindu rule began in Vietnam about 2000- years ago.

In the modern temples we see continuous worship and in the ancient temples only occasional worship. Most of the ancient temples are dilapidated. Many of the statues decorate the museums around the world. In the olden days Vietnam was called Champa. Hindus ruled several South East Asian countries for 1500 years from the first century of modern era. Hindu influence is found more in South and Central Vietnam. Northern part has more Chinese influence.

The names of towns and regions are in Sanskrit –

Indrapura

Amaravati

Vijaya

Panduranga

Kauthara – Kedar nath

The river name is Ma Ganga –Mekong

Let us look at two important temples now:-

Latest excavations in two places have given lot of new information. The statues and artefacts collected from these sites are displayed in Danang Museum. Old statues were taken to Paris and stored in Guimet Museum in Paris. So one has to see all the statues and inscriptions in all the museums to piece together the history of Viet Nam. The oldest Sanskrit Inscription of South East Asia, known as Vo Canh Inscription  is in the History Museum in Hanoi. ( I have identified the King Sri Maran in the inscription as Tamil Pandya King).

My son Temple

The ancient Cham temple is in My Son which is 70 kilometers from Da Nang. It is dated to 4th century of modern era.  The materials displayed in the Da Nang museum will throw some light on the historical places. (At the same time Mula Vraman’s Yupa Sanskrit inscription is found in the remote forest of Borneo! This shows the spread of Sanskrit and Hindu religion from Vietnam to Indonesia)

Da Nang museum has

52 objects from Tra Kieu

30 objects from My Son

17 objects from Chan Lo.

But there are 43 Cham sites.

My Son was the most sacred place of the Champa kingdom with over 70 structures of brick and stone. Epigraphic evidence indicates that construction began around 4th century. In 2012 the staff at My Son discovered an Eka mukha linga.

The My Son temple pedestal is the most written about Cham piece  of art. 1500 years ago this place was called Deva devalaya, meaning abode of god of gods, that is Lord Shiva.  Since king Bhadravarman constructed it , the Shivalinga there was called Bhadreswara . The king has t donated almost the entire valley for the upkeep of the temple.

Next comes the Tra Kieu site which is 50 kilometres from  Da Nang. There are three shrines one each for Shiva, Kubera and Poet Valmiki . King Prakasa dharman and Vikranta varman constructed them . The shrines were called pujasthana.

Later inscriptions used many Sanskrit terms in the temple inscriptions.

Tra Kieu temple

We find a big pedestal for Shiva linga here. On the pedestal beautiful scenes from Ramayana and Bhagavatam are portrayed . Wedding scenes of Sita and Rama are beautifully sculpted.

ascetic
Lord Shiva
Eka Danta Ganesa from Viet Nam Museum

BIG HINDU FESTIVAL IN VIETNAM (Post No.7089)

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51 INTERESTING HINDU COUPLES; FOUR TYPES OF WOMEN IN NATYA SHASTRA (Post No.7077)

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METALS IN VEDAS (Post No.7060)

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Vedic Hindus were predominantly agriculturists. The Rig Veda, the oldest religious book in the world, was transmitted unaltered from generation to generation simply through oral traditions. It furnishes us with a picture of the earliest Hindu culture. Vedic people domesticated cows, horses and sheep. They knew the uses of bronze, gold , copper and silver.

The Rig Veda is regarded as a genuine document belonging to 1500 BCE or before that. Scholars like Herman Jacobi and BG Tilak even place it between 4000 and 6000 BCE

In the RV, we find mention of gold, silver, copper and bronze among metals. A hymn (1-162) gives an account of the bronze cauldron slung over the fire by pot-hooks for the cooking of meat.  Gold was used for ornaments like anklets, rings etc. Mention of metal vessels, tools and armour, made mainly of bronze, affords evidence of the knowledge of metal working.

Some writers believe that iron was known during the time of the Rig Veda . For according to them the word ayas in the hymns of the Rig Veda  definitely refers to iron in certain instances. But many other scholars pointed out that AYAS is a generic term for metals in the Vedic age and sometimes for gold.

In Tamil also PON refers to gold, iron and five metals in gods’ (Pancha loka= Aim Pon) idols. Even in Tamil Veda Tirukkural, it is used for both iron and gold.

Then again in the Brahmanas and Upanishads, which were of later date than the Vedas we find that the word ayas has been differentiated into lohita ayas or red metal and Krishna ayas or black metal, representing copper and iron respectively. So Rig Veda ayas is not iron and in the Indus valley civilization we don’t find iron.  It may be early Vedic civilization.

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Gotra System in Ancient Rome and Greece (Post No.7052)

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Brahmins and any other communities in India follow Gotra (clan) rules strictly. They consider the people brothers and sisters if they are born in the same Gotra. Primarily there were seven Gotras which multiplied in course of time to hundreds. A 100 year old book compare this to the rules in other countries. Brahmins don’t marry in the same Gotra.

It is found in the book

The People of India, Sir Herbert Risley, London, 1915

Senart’s theory

After examining the views propounded by three people including me Senart points out the close correspondence that exists between the three series of groups in Rome – gens, curia, tribes; family groups in Greece; and he family gotra and caste in India. Pursuing the subject into fuller detail, he seeks to show from the records of classical antiquity that

in the department of marriage, roman gens and an Athenian group present striking resemblance to the Indian gotra.

We learn from Plutarch, that the romans never married a woman of their own kin, and among the matrons who figure in classical literature, none bears the same gentile name as her husband . nor was endogamy unknown.

At Athens in the time of Demosthenes. membership of a group was confined to the offspring of that particular group.

In Rome the long struggle of plebeians to obtain the jus connubii with patrician women belongs to the same class of facts; an the patricians, according to Senart, were guarding the endogamous rights of their order—

If they marry a woman from humbler origins or foreigners he children were traded as low class people. In Rome if low class people are present in the sacrifice of gens, they are offended. In Rome the woman was transferred to the group of her husband . brahmin women also get the gotra of her husband leaving her own gotra.

In food also they refused to take food cooked by other groups they were not allowed to eat with the members of other lower group. In Rome ,as in India, daily libations were offered to ancestors and the funeral feasts of Greeks and romans correspond to Hindu sraddha

The expulsion rites were also similar in Rome and India. Roman interdict aqua et igni corresponds to the ancient Indian ritual for expulsion from caste. A slave filled the water of an offender’s vessel and solemnly pours it on the ground.

Meaning of phrases and words –

Ius Connubii, the right of contracting a lawful marriage. Ius Commercii, the right of acquiring, transferring, and holding property of all kinds according to the Roman laws. … Ius Connubii, the right of contracting a lawful marriage.

Definition of aqua et igni interdictus

forbidden (to be furnished) with water and fire banished

interdict

noun

/ˈɪntədɪkt/

  1. an authoritative prohibition.

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