Hindu Gods in Zend Avesta-3 (Post N0.10,645)


Post No. 10,645

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Kavi Ushanas was one of the most celebrated poets of Rigveda. Two great Tamil poets also were from the same family. In the Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna said that he was Poet Ushanas among the Kavis/poets . Kavi Ushans is in Zend Avesta as well.

Kava Us ( corrupted in Shahnamah as Kaikkaus) is Kavya Ushanas of the Vedas. He is one of the great heroes of the Iranians and believed to have been a ruler of Iran .

2000 year old Sangam Tamil  literature also had several poets cum kings. In Hindu literature Bhoja Vikramaditya was an all rounder. He was a scientist, artist ,a poet and an able ruler. Janakar was a philosopher cum ruler. In the same way Ushanas was a poet cum ruler. Moreover, Kavi meant one who could see far, who has a good vision. In short a visionary. Hindus , in post Vedic days identified Ushanas with Shukra, also known as planet Venus . He was the Asura Guru, which fits very well with the Zoroastrian religion.

Vedic hymns associated him with Indra. He called himself Kavya Ushana, R V 4-26-1 and is invoked by the name Kavi Ushna, RV 1-130-9.

This Kavya Ushna, meaning Ushana, son of Kavi, installed Agni as a high priest for mankind RV 8-23-17; he led the heavenly cows/clouds to pasturage RV 1-83-5 and made Indra’s iron club, by which the god killed his enemy Vritra.

In the Bhagavad Gita 10-27, Krishna identified himself with poet Ushanas.

If we know that the word Indra is only a title and not one person and if we understand that Asura had good connotation in the oldest part of Rigveda, description of Ushana as Asura Guru would not surprise us . Even in Tamil, the Kavya clan is called ancient ( Tol in Tamil) . The author of the oldest Tamil book called himself Tol Kavya; in Tamil, Kavya is changed to Kappiya. Another poet called himself as Kaappiyaatru Kaapiyanaar.

According to Mahabharata, Ushanas had four sons, who offered sacrifice to Asuras. In the Iranian legend he does not appear blameless; he is said to have been so proud and self-conceited as to endeavour to fly up to heaven, for which arrogance he was punished.

But his Asura connection is confirmed both by the Hindu and Parsi scriptures.


Danava and Danu

Both Danava and Danu, as enemies of God, figured in both the scriptures. Druj, as a demon or a bad virtue is also portrayed the same way in both the religions.

Danava, as enemies of God, in Yasht 5-73 and AV 4-24-2

In the Rigveda, it is often a name of the arch demon Vritra, with whom Indra is fighting.

In the legend of Tishtrya of Zend Avesta, some particulars are similar to Indra and Brihaspati in the Vedas. Tishtrya cannot bring the rain from the sea Vouru-kasha over the earth, if not assisted by the prayers of men. In the same way Indra cannot release the celestial cows/clouds from the rocky caves, without the assistance of Brihaspati, who is the representative of the prayers sent up by men.

Lord Krishna also explained this Prayer- Rain Link in the Bhagavad Gita

Men’s sacrifice only brings the rain…

Lord Krishna says,

“From food creatures come into being; from rain is the birth of food; from sacrifice rain comes into being and sacrifice is born of work.”—Bhagavad Gita 3-14

Dr Radhakrishnan compares it with

Manu 3-76 and RV 10-117-6

Manu says ,

“An offering cast properly into the fire /sacrifice approaches the sun; rain is created from the sun, from rain comes food, and from that progeny”.

Now we know these two scientific facts : 1.cloud seeding (Yaga smoke) helps raining; 2.Sun evaporates sea water and it becomes food and produces food.

In the next part I will show how Vedic Nabhanethishta is figuring in the Zend Avesta.

Source book- The Parsis by Martin Haugh, first published 1878 with my inputs.

To be continued……..

Tags- Kavi, Ushanas, Kavya, Tolkappiyar, Danava, Danu, Rain-Prayer link

Secret of Vedas – Aurobindo (Post No.7993)


Post No.7993

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Aravinda Maharishi— Bengali spelling Aurobindo — contributed a lot to the study of Vedic literature. He has translated more than 4500 mantras of the Rig Veda. He has given new interpretation to various Vedic gods including Agni, Varuna, Ashwins, Vishva devas, Indra, Sarasvati, Ocean and Rivers, Dawn/ Ushas, Sons of Darkness and Angirasas.

He interpreted 42 Suktas out of 87 from the Fifth Madala and then took up various Suktas dealing with various other gods.


Yaska knew 20 Sholars

The problem of Vedic interpretation was always an open question: the known traditional interpreters are Yaska, Skandaswami, Udgitha, Venkata Madhava, Ananda Tirtha, Madhwa etc. many of them lived before Sayana.

Yaska, centuries before Sayana, mentions in his work several schools and more than 20 prominent individuals who had been in his time. Sayana took up the ritualistic view which was only one of the many possible. The Yajnikas, Aitihasikas, Vaiyakaranas etc and Shakapuni, Shaktala, Udumbara, Tittiki, Gallava, Chamasiras were mentioned by Yaska.


“The evidence of the Rig Veda shows that Aryans were not foreigners who had come from outside and settled in the valleys of various rivers,” says Dr Laxman Swarup.

Dr AKCoomar Swamy in the preface to his book ‘A New Approach to the Vedas’ says,

“What right have Sanskritists to confine their labours to the solution of linguistic problems? Is it fear that precludes their wrestling with the ideology of the texts they undertake? The Vedas were not preserved for their language by the ancient Indians”.


Knowledge of  Tamil helped me!

It was my stay in Southern India which first seriously turned my thoughts to the Vedas. The sharp distinction between Aryan and Dravidian races created by the philologists disappeared.

On examining the vocables of the Tamil language , in appearance so foreign to the Sanskritic form and character, I yet found myself continually guided by the words or by family of words supposed to be pure Tamil in establishing new relations between Sanskrit and its distant sister Latin, and occasionally between the Greek and the Sanskrit…. And it was through this Dravidian language that I came first to perceive what seems to me now the true law, origins and, as it were, the embryology of the Aryan tongues.


Comparative Mythology

At the beginning of all human traditions there is this ancient memory.

It is Indra and the serpent Vritra,

it is Apollo and the Python,

 it is Thor and the Giants,

Sigurd and Fafner,

it is mutually opposing gods of the Celtic mythology;

but only in the Veda do we find the key to this imagery which conceals the hope or the wisdom of a prehistoric humanity.

My comments

I will add biblical Adam and Eve story where also the snake figures.



Aurobindo explains the Vedic concept of poet.

A mind visited by some highest light and its forms of idea and word, a seer and “hearer of the Truth”, kavayah satyasrutah 5-57-8

The poets of the Vedic verse certainly did not regard their function as it is represented by modern scholars, they did not look on themselves as a sort of superior medicine men and makers of hymn and incantation to a robust and barbarous tribe, but as seers and thinkers– rsi,dhiira–these singers believed that they were in possession of a high , mystic and hidden truth, claimed to be bearers of a speech acceptable to a divine knowledge, and expressly so speak of their utterances , as secret words which declare their whole significance only to the seer,

Kavaye nivacanaani ninyaa vacaamsi

(R V.4-3-16)

Ninyaa vaacaamsi – secret words

This is from the fourth mandala of Vamadeva Rishi.

The Rishi describes himself as one illumined expressing through his thought and speech of words of guidance, secret words— ninyaa vaacaamsi— ‘seer wisdoms’ that utter their ‘inner meaning to the seer’

Kaavyaani Kavaye nivacanaa.

The Veda thus understood stands out, apart from its interest as the world’s first yet extant Scripture, its earliest interpretation of man and the Divine and the universe, as a remarkable, a sublime and powerful poetic creation. It is in its form and speech no barbaric production.

The Vedic poets are masters of a consummate technique , their rhythms are carved like chariots of the gods and borne on divine and ample wings of sound, and are at once concentrated and wide waved, great in movement and subtle in modulation, their speech lyric by intensity and epic by elevation and utterance of great power, pure and bold and grand in outline, a speech direct and brief in impact, full to overflowing in sense and suggestion-so that each verse exists at once as a strong and sufficient thing in itself and takes its place a large step in between what came before and what comes after.

The utterances of the greatest seers Viswamitra, Vamadeva, Dirgatamas and many others, touch the most extraordinary heights and amplitudes of a sublime and mystic poetry and there are poems like the Hymn of Creation that move in a powerful clarity on the summits of thoughts on which the Upanishads lived constantly with a more sustained breathing”.


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