Crow in Chanakya Niti (Post No4733)

Date:12 FEBRUARY 2018

 

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Post No. 4733

 

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Birds are used by Indian poets to teach people some morals. Crows are very common in India from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar used crow in many of his couplets in the Tamil Veda Tirukkural.

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Chanakya says,

Of men, a barber is cunning, of birds it is crow, of animals it is jackal and of women it is lady gardener.

Naraanaam naapito dhuurtah pakshinaam caiva vaayasah

Catuspadaam srugaalastu striinaam dhuurtaa ca maalinii

Chankaya niti, chapter 5, sloka/verse 21

 

Caandaala bird

 

Of birds it is crow who is Caandaala (wicked), of animals it is dog, of sages it is fiery one, of all it is the one who defames.

 

Pakshinaam kaakascaandaalah pasuunaam caiva kukkurah

Kopii muniinaam caandaalah sarveshaam caiva nindakah

Chanakya niti, chapter 6, sloka 2

Crows eat anything

What is that which the poets do not see, women do not do, drunkards do not blurt out, crows do not eat?

Kavayah kim na pasyanti kim na kurvanti yoshitah

Madhyapaah kim na jalpanti kim na bakshanti vaayasaah

Chapter 10, verse/sloka 4

 

Can crow become an eagle?

One goes up by one’s qualities and not by occupying a high seat. Does a crow by sitting on top of a place turn into Garuda?

Gunairuttamataam yaati noccaira asanasamsthitah

Praasaadasikharasthopi kaakah kim garudaayate

Chapter 16, verse 6

 

For comparison with Tamil poets please visit my previous articles given below: –

 

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Hindus linked the black bird crow with the departed souls which is in Sangam Tamil literature and earlier Sanskrit literature. Tamils linked the arrival of the guests with crowing. When the housewives cook special dishes naturally the good smell will attract the crows around the house. But many of their beliefs cannot be …

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A strange coincidence is that he and other Tamil saints mention only crowas the bird for finding the direction. It is similar to the raven of Sumerian and Biblical stories. Swami Sri Vedanta Desikan who lived around 1300 AD also sang a poem on Vishnu in Kanchipuram. He also used the same simile like Kulasekara.

 

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Be a Snake! Paramahamsa and Chanakya Advise! (Post No.4579)

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Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 3 JANUARY 2018

 

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Post No. 4579

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A snake must be a snake; it must instil fear in others; otherwise it will die. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, the great saint and Chanakya , the great philosopher, statesman and astute politician agree on snakes!

Chanakya says,

“Even a snake with no poison should raise its hood. Be there poison or not, the raising of the hood instils fear”—Chanakya Niti, Chapter 9, sloka/verse 10

 

Here is the verse in Sanskrit:-

nirvishenaani sarpena karthavyaa mahati fanaa

vishamastu na chaapyastu fanaayopo bhayankarah

Sometimes you may be weak or in a weaker position, but yet you can pretend to be strong.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa narrates a story:-

“A serpent dwelt in a certain locality. No one dared to pass by that way; for whoever did so was instantaneously bitten to death by the serpent.

 

Once a holy man passed by. As usual the serpent pursued the sage with a view to biting him, but when it approached the holy man, it lost all kits ferocity and was over powered by his gentleness. Seeing the snake, the holy man said,

‘Well, friend! Do you want to bite me?’ The snake was abashed and did not reply. At this the sage said again, ‘hearken friend, do not injure anyone in future’. The snake bowed and nodded assent.

 

After the sage, had hone his own way, the entered its hole, and began to live a life of innocence and purity without even wishing to harm anyone. In a few days, it became a common belief in the neighbourhood that the snake had lost all its venom and was no more dangerous, and so people began to tease it. Some pelted stones at it., and others dragged it mercilessly by the tail. Thus there was no end to its troubles.

Fortunately, sometime after, the sage again passed that way seeing the bruised and battered condition of the poor snake, was very much moved to pity and inquired about the cause of its distress.

At this the snake replied, Sir, I have been reduced to this state, because I Have not been injuring anyone since I received your instruction. But alas! they are so merciless!

The sage smilingly said, ‘Dear friend, I only advised you not to bite anyone, but I never asked you not to hiss and frighten others. Although you should not bite any creature, still you should keep everyone at a considerable distance from you by hissing’.

 

Similarly, if you live in this world, make yourself feared and respected. Do not injure anyone, but do not at the same time let others injure you.

Source:

Sayings of Sri Ramakrishna, Sri Ramakrishna Math, Mylapore, Chennai 600004

Canakyaniti, Satya Vrat Shastri, Bharatiya Vidya Mandir, Kolkata

 

 

Snake and Great men

If You see a Snake……………….

“Between a snake and a wicked person, it is the serpent which is better. Serpent bites ever and anon but a wicked person does so at every step”—Chanakya Niti, Chapter 3, Sloka

 

 

Three other poets sang about great men and poisonous snakes

Even if poisonous snakes enter an assembly of scholars it will pass through them unscathed. They won’t hurt them, says a Tamil poem in ‘Pazamozi Four Hundred’. Even the Sangam Tamil Literature (Neithal kali, Kali Tokai) gave the same message.

Another poet ( of Tamil book “Aranerisaram” ) viewed the snakes differently. He says, look at this, If you give water to a cow it gives you milk; but if you give milk to a cobra, it produces poison! Likewise, the books read by bad people are interpreted negatively. The same books read by the great people are interpreted positively”.

The best examples for this poem are our Vedas and the Epics. Foreigners who read these books interpreted them negatively. They are like snakes that convert milk into poison. The great Tamil kings Chera, Chola and Pandyas fostered Vedas and Vedic Yajnas for over 2000 years according to Sangam Tamil Literature. In the North, more Asvamedha Yajnas and Rajasuyas were done. Vedas are viewed positively in Kalidasa’s works and Sangam Tamil works. They are like cows that turns water into milk.

Tamil poetess Avvaiyar in her book ‘Vakkundaam’ compared water snake to good people and cobra to bad people. She says that the water snake is not poisonous and it lies openly on the banks of rivers and lakes. But the cobra is poisonous and so it hides in the holes. Good people don’t fear any one, bad people fear others and lead a secret life! They pretend to be good.

Chanakya also agrees,

“Those vile men who disclose each other’s secrets come o naught, for sure, like a snake in an ant-hill” – Chapter 9, Verse 2s

–Subham–

Twenty Qualities for Success: Chanakya’s Strange Advice (Post No.4561)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 29 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4561

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Greatest statesman and astute politician who succeeded in establishing the largest empire in ancient India, Chanakya, gives a strange advice. He advises to learn 20 qualities for invincibility from animals and birds. But he is not the first one to use animals and birds for teaching. Dattatreya listed 24 Gurus from Nature. It is in the Bhagavata Purana.

 

 

Learn from Animals and Birds:

One should acquire one quality each from a lion and a crane, four of them from a cock, five of them from a crow, six of them from a dog and three from an ass.

—chapter-6, sloka 14, Chanakya Niti

 

If he has left it like this it would be a puzzle leading to different answers. But Chanakya, fortunately continued with more slokas giving the details

 

The first lesson one has from a lion, as they say, is that whatever work, big or small, one wants to accomplish, one should put in all efforts for it –sloka 15

 

A wise man should accomplish all things with a brake on his senses like a crane weighing the proper place, time and his own capacity – sloka 16

One should acquire four qualities from a cock: to wake up in time, to be ever ready for an assault, to distribute equally (what one has acquired) among his kith and kin, and eating a thing attained through self-attack- sloka 17

 

One should learn the following five from a crow:

Coitus in secret, insolence, accumulation of things from time to time, alertness and non-trust- sloka 18

 

Eating in good quantity, feeling satisfied with a little, good sleep, getting alert even with a feeble sound, loyalty to master, bravery – these six are the qualities that one should learn from a dog- sloka 19

One should acquire three qualities from an ass: however tired it may be, it goes on carrying load, does not care for cold or heat, moves about in all contentment – sloka 20

A person who follows these twenty qualities in the course of all types of his work, will become invincible- sloka 20

Panchatantra and Hitopadesa used only nature to teach the youths. Adi Shankara and others used plants and animals to illustrate their teachings. Tamils did not lag (Tirukkural, Viveka Chudamani, Divya Prabandam). They used the tortoise image to teach Self -control. We find it in Sanskrit literature as well in the Bhagavad Gita, Manu Smrti and other books.

 

Following is the link for my earlier articles on the subject.

 

Lessons from Nature | Tamil and Vedas

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This type of learning started in the Vedic days. I have already written about what the Devas, Demons and Humans learnt from the Da,Da,Da sound from the Thunder. It is a parable in the Upanishad. I have also written about the connection between Dattareya and William Wordsworth two years ago (Dattatreya episode is in …

The Connection between William Wordsworth and Dattatreya | Tamil …

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10 Nov 2011 – Let Nature be Your Teacher ”–William Wordsworth and Dattatreya William Wordsworth was an English poet who lived from 1770 to 1850 in England. … The most interesting thing about Dattatreya is that he mentioned 24 natural objects or living beings as his teachers. … What did he learn from the nature?

-SUBHAM-

MUSIC WONDERS: MOZART AND NIETZSHE (Post No. 4502)

Compiled by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 16 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4502

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WHO WAS MOZART?

Johann Chrysostom Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart  (1756-1791) was Austrian composer and performer, who showed astonishing precocity as a child and was an adult virtuoso.

 

WHO WAS NIETZSHE?

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844-1900) was a German Philosopher who rejected the accepted absolute moral values and the slave morality of Christianity. He argued that God is dead and therefore people were free to create their own values.

    

Mozart’s retort

A lad once asked Mozart how to write a symphony. Mozart said, “you are a very young man. Why not begin with ballads?”

The aspirant urged, “You composed symphonies when you were ten years old.”

“Yes”, replied Mozart, “but I didn’t ask ‘How?’

 

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Nietzsche

When Nietzsche one day observed to Wagner that in ‘Figaro’ Mozart had invented the music of intrigue.

Wagner replied, “On the contrary! In ‘Figaro’ Mozart dissolved the intrigue in music”.

(intrigue: mysterious or fascinating quality)

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Fabulous Memory

The composer, Gounod, had a fabulous memory. When he was about 19 he had attended a rehearsal of ‘Romeo et Juliette’ which was still in manuscript and was being directed by the composer, Berlioz. The next day he called upon Berlioz, sat at the piano and proceeded to play the entire finale of the opera from memory.

The composer stared at him in terror and astonishment. Had his work been pirated? Was it some incredible coincidence?

“Where the devil did you get the music?”, he demanded.

“At your rehearsal yesterday,” replied Gunod.

 

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Elegy to George Gershwin

When an American composer, George Gershwin, died, a man of sentiment combined with musical aspirations wrote an elegy in his honour. He sought out Oscar Levant. Reluctantly Levant granted him a hearing. Eagerly the man rendered the piece with his own hands and then turned expectantly toward Levant seeking approbation.

 

I think it would have been better, Levant said, if you had died and Gershwin had written the elegy.

 

Xxx

I was the abominable Creature!

At premiere performance of Caesar Frank’s symphony, the gentle, benign old composer, who had seldom ventured out of his organ loft, was seated in the audience. The stupid and blasé assemblage were hostile to this fine work which did not until later read find its proper appreciation.

One pompous and arrogant woman, who chanced to be seated directly behind the composer, remarked loudly in the interim between two of the movements,

“Who is the creature who writes this abominable music?”

The gentle Frank turned around in his seat and said courteously,

“Madam, it is I”.

 

Xxx SUBHAM xxx

 

 

 

MORE ABOUT TREE WORSHIP IN ANCIENT INDIA (Post No.4389)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 12 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4389

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I have written several articles on trees. Now I am adding more points to the Pipal and Nyagrodha tree articles:-

Three important trees of Ficus genus (Plant Family: Moraceae) are considered holy by the Hindus. Of the three, the most important one was Ficus Religiosa known as Pipal or Peepul or Bodhi tree. Tamils named it as King Tree, i.e. the King of the Trees. Hindus has never lived without the Pipal tree. They used the sticks for the fire sacrifice. Even today Brahmin boys use it for their daily Samidhadanam ( fire ritual of celibate boys) . The seers were named after this tree. Pippaladan is found in Vedic literature. Almost all the Pipal trees in Tamil Nadu will have one god’s statue underneath and worshipped. Because of its sanctity Buddha who was born as a Hindu sat under it and attained wisdom. Asoka made the tree more popular by sending its branches to Sri Lanka and other places. Then it became more popular among the Buddhists.

 

Upanayana and Wedding to a Tree!

Pipal tree is believed by some as to be the abode of Brahma and is consequently invested with the sacred thread by the regular Upanayana ceremony. Others believe that all the Three Gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva abide in it. Ohers again connect it to Vasudeva, father of Krishna.

Devout Hindus worship the tree, pour water at its roots and smear the trunk with red ochre. Women make vows under the tree to get a male child. In Tamil,  there are even proverbs about it. “As soon as she went round (circumambulated) the tree, she touched her abdomen” to see whether she had become pregnant is the Tamil proverb.

 

Women tie cotton threads around its trunk or fastening red strips of red materials to its lower branches. A vessel of water for the comfort of the departed souls on their way to ‘the land of the dead’ is hung from its branches.  And beneath it is placed the rough stones which form the shrine of many village gods. In Tamil Nadu, Ganesh statues or Nagadevas (snake figures) are installed under the tree.

 

When a statement is made on oath the witness sometimes takes one of its leaves in his hand and invokes the gods above him to crush him if he is guilty of falsehood.

In South India the trees are married to Neem trees. Some people touch it only on Sundays believing Lakshmi, goddess of wealth, comes to it on Sundays.  They go around the tree after pouring water at its roots. If a Monday coincides with new moon day, pious Hindus go round it 108 times. They wind cotton threads about its trunk.

 

Birds drop its seeds in the cracks of the building and it sprouts from there damaging the buildings. But yet because of its holiness some people never disturb it.

BANYAN TREE WORSHIP

Huge banyan tree, another Ficus species (Ficus indica), is also worshipped in the same way. This tree is sacred to Vishnu. But we find other village gods also under the tree. The tree once planted propagates itself by its hanging roots. It lives for several hundred years. The planter uses the following prayer:

“Oh Vishnu, grant that for planting this tree, I may continue as many years in heaven as this tree shall remain growing on earth.”

He also expects that he won’t be scorched on his way to Yama loka (after death).

 

Please read my old articles on Trees:-

Nyakrodha tree | Tamil and Vedas

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Posts about Nyakrodha tree written by Tamil and Vedas.

of trees | Tamil and Vedas

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5000 year old Yew Tree (from The Guradian News paper). Research Article Written by London swaminathan. Date: 3 November 2015. Post No:2297.

Trees in literature | Tamil and Vedas

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Picture of Deodar: Tree of the Gods. We have heard about people adopting children. But the greatest of the Indian poets Kalidasa and Sangam Tamil poets give …

 

save trees | Tamil and Vedas

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Picture of Palasa tree. Research Article Written by london swaminathan. Date: 7th August 2016. Post No. 3043. Time uploaded in London :– 16-24. ( Thanks for …

Trees of Wisdom | Tamil and Vedas

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Picture shows Newton under Apple Tree. Hindu Saints composed Upanishads under the Himalayan Trees. Buddha attained wisdom under the Bodhi Tree.

water and trees | Tamil and Vedas

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Posts about water and trees written by Tamil and Vedas.

Peepal tree | Tamil and Vedas

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19 Feb 2017 – Trees are used as similes and metaphors in Tamil and Sanskrit literature from very ancient times. The upside down Peepal Tree(Ficus …

Bodhi Tree | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/tag/bodhi-tree/

Mahabodhi Tree in Bodha Gaya. Research paper by London Swaminathan Post No.1325; Dated 3rd October 2014. This article is part of my series on …

 

Nature | Tamil and Vedas

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Posts about Nature written by Tamil and Vedas. … “Trees that have fruit but no flowers are traditionally known as the Lords of the Forest; those that bear both …

Hindus’ Respect for Trees and Forests | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/…/hindus-respect-for-trees-and-forests/

 

18 Feb 2015 – In the Vedas, Lord Shiva is called the Lord of the Forests (Vanaspathi), Lord of the Trees (Vrkshanaam pathi) and Lord of the Animals …

 

Tamarind Tree | Tamil and Vedas

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Posts about Tamarind Tree written by Tamil and Vedas.

 

Magic of Trees! | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/2012/11/25/magic-of-trees/

 

25 Nov 2012 – Buddha attained wisdom under the Bodhi Tree. Vaishnavite saint Nammalvar attained wisdom under a Tamarind tree. Sanatkumaras attained …

Tansen and Tamarind Tree! Ghosts in Tamarind … – Tamil and Vedas

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26 Mar 2016 – Tansen and Tamarind Tree! Ghosts in Tamarind Trees! (Post No 2666). tansen tomb. Research Article by london swaminathan. Date: 26 March …

 

Indian Wonder: The Banyan Tree | Swami’s Indology Blog

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26 May 2012 – There is a beautiful verse in the Panchatantra about Banyan Tree: “Deer recline in its shade; Birds in multitude gather to roost. Darkening its …

Swami’s Indology Blog

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Nov 6th. வேதத்தில் மரங்களின் கதை (Post No.4372). Nov 6th. STRANGE STORIES ABOUT TREES IN VEDAS –Part 2 (Post No.4371).

Plants in Mahavamsa | Swami’s Indology Blog

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3 Oct 2014 – In the same chapter we come across the story of Nigrodha (MrBanyan Tree). When Emperor Asoka killed his elder brother Sumana, his …

Significance of Neem Tree in Hinduism – Swami’s Indology Blog

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11 Jun 2017 – 18 Mar 2013 – Reand and enjoy this article about “Banyan Tree” from Mr. Santhanam Swaminathan. Tamarind Tree | Tamil and Vedas.

 

–subham–

 

 

 

 

Manu, not only a Law Maker but also a Great Botanist! (Post No.4375)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 7 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4375

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Manu Smrti, law book written by Manu, talks about lot of subjects which makes it a Hindu Encyclopaedia. Manu was not only a law maker but also a scientist. Though some of his theories may not hold good today, he was the precursor of several scientific theories.

 

One of the greatest Indian plant scientists was Jagadish Chandra Bose. Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose’s greatest achievement was his invention of the crescograph, which allowed scientists to discover how the seasons and external stimuli affected plant life.

The scientist worked tirelessly to chart how chemical inhibitors, temperature and light change the way plants grow, and advise humans on how to better care for vegetation.

It paved the way for scientists to better understand how to cultivate crops in a more effective way, and encouraged people to take better care of plant life. In one particular report, Bose wrote that he believed plants “feel pain and understand affection” just as much as humans do. But even before Bose, Manu has said about the feeling of plants!

His famous quotation was that ‘don’t even throw a rose flower on your lady love because the rose flower will be hurt’.

Manu must have lived long ago. Though the updated Manu Smriti available now is dated around second century BCE, he lived during the Rig Vedic days. He talks about the Saraswati River, which disappeared later. So the original Manu Smrti must be dated around 2000 BCE. Moreover, like the Rig Veda he never mentioned Sati, the widow burning.

 

About plants he says,

“All the plants that grow from the seed or node are borne from shoots; herbs are those that bear many flowers and fruits and then die with the ripening of the fruit.

“Trees that have fruit but no flowers are traditionally known as the Lords of the Forest; those that bear both flowers and fruit are called trees.

“The various sorts of plants that have one root and those with many roots, the different species of grasses and climbing vines and creepers all grow from a seed or a shoot.

“ENVELOPED BY A DARKNESS THAT HAS MANY FORMS AND IS THE RESULT OF THEIR OWN INNATE ACTIVITIES, THEY HAVE AN INTERNAL CONSCIOUSNESS AND EXPERIENCE HAPPINESS AND UNHAPPINESS.

“IN THIS TERRIBLE CYCLE OF TRANSMIGRATION OF  LIVING BEINGS, WHICH MOVES RELENTLESSLY ON AND ON, THE LEVELS OF EXISTENCE ARE SAID TO BEGIN WITH BRAHMA AND TO END WITH THEM”

–Chapter 1, Manu Smrti

 

Grass (laid down for a resting place), space (to rest), water and pleasant conversation – these four things never run out in the house of good people- Manu 3-101

From Manu’s days pious people were doing penance sitting on the mat made up of Dharba grass.—3-208

 

If we believe that Manu lived in the Sarasvati River period, he is the first man to classify plants; he is the first one to talk about the consciousness of plants. He is the first to write about numerous plants. If we put all the plant facts from the Vedas, Brahmanas and Manu Smrti together, we will know how much the ancient Hindus studied the plants.

 

My old article:-

 

‘Save the Trees’ and ‘Save the Forests’ in Manu Smrti!(Post No.3043)

 

Research Article Written by london swaminathan

Date: 7th    August 2016

Post No. 3043

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( Thanks for the Pictures)

The topics Manu covers in his Law book are amazing. He makes passing remarks on several things; since ancient people know all these things he takes them for granted. Let us look at the couplets where he mentioned the trees, saving the trees, sacred trees and saving the forests.

 

If a Brahmin cuts the fruit trees, shrubs, vines, , creepers or  flowering plants , a thousand Vedic verses should be chanted – Manu 11-143

 

Cutting down green trees for fire wood, undertaking acts for one’s own sake only and eating forbidden food  are minor crimes — Manu 11-65

 

Assembly halls, road side watering places, cake-stalls, whore houses wine shops , SACRED TREES, cross roads, crowds and places where people assemble for spectacles, GARDENS, ARTIFICIAL GROVES MUST BE WATCHED FOR THIEFS –9-265

Trees that have fruit but no flowers are traditionally known as the Lords of the Forest; those that bear flowers and fruits are called trees–  Manu 1-47

 

The various sorts of plants that have one root and those with many roots , the different species of grasses and climbing vines and creepers all grow from a seed or a shoot. — Manu 1-48

 

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The belt of a priest should be made up of smooth, three ply rushes; of a ruler it should be a bow string of hemp fibre; and of a commoner, a thread of hemp.

If rushes are unattainable, the belt should be made up of kusa asmantaka or balbaja (Eleusine Indica).

The initiatory thread of a Brahmin should be made up of cotton; of a ruler it should be made up of hemp threads and of a commoner it should be of wool threads.

A priest’s staff should be made up of wood apple (Aegle Marmelos)and the palasa (Butea Frondosa);

A ruler’s of banyan (Ficus Indica) and acacia (Acacia Catechu);

A commoner’s of palm (Careya Arborea) and fig (Ficus Udumbara).

Height of the Staff of a priest – – up to his hair

King = up to his forehead

Commoner = up to his nose

–Chapter 2 of Manu smrti

 

Sitting on a kusa grass mat is mentioned in 2-75

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Grass laid down for a resting place, space to rest, water and pleasant conversation – these four things never run out in the house of good people – 3-101

 

Priests should sit on a seat of sacrificial grass/ kusa—3-208.

Kusa grass and mat made up of Kusa grass are emtioned in several places.

Weights made up of krsnala seeds (Kundu mnani in Tamil) are found in the book.

It is good to see so many plants names in a Law Book.

 

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From these passages we come to know:-

Cutting trees is a crime;

Preserving trees is encouraged;

Sacred trees were there in every town;

Gardens and artificial groves were there;

Temples and Kiosks/stalls were constructed underneath huge trees.

Like Tamil kings had three different trees for each of them, three castes have different trees.

Even before the Westerners classified the plants, Hindus divided them into various groups.

 

Please read my research articles posted here earlier: –

Flowers in Tamil Culture, posted on 25 August 2012

 

Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant , posted on 5 May 2013

 

107 Miracle Herbs in the Hindu Vedas, posted on 16 September 2013 

 

255 Indian trees, herbs and flowers mentioned in Brhat Samhita Part-1, posted 21 February 2015

 

255 Indian trees, herbs and flowers mentioned in Brhat Samhita Part-2, posted on 23 February 2015

 

Amazing Medical information in Hindu Vedas, posted here on 18 June 2015

 

Jangida Mystery in Atharva Veda , posted on 29 December 2014

 

Hindus’ Amazing Knowledge in Botany, posted here on 20 July 2014

 

Knowledge of Biology in Hindu scriptures, posted on 10 February 2013

 

Dynasties with Plant names and Dynasty in Shiva’s Bilva tree name, posted on 24 January 2015

 

Lord Shiva and Tamils adopted Trees, posted on 6 July 2013

 

 

Hindus’ respect for trees and forests , posted on 18 February 2015

 

Cucumber in the Rig Veda

–subham–

 

 

 

STRANGE STORIES ABOUT TREES IN VEDAS –Part 2 (Post No.4371)

Granite tree in a Tamil Temple; posted by Lalgudi Veda

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 6 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4371

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(First part was posted yesterday)

 

Picture of a sacred tree in Varanasi

 

The Gods and the Asuras, both of them sprung from Prajapati, strove together. The gods, having placed Agni in the front, went up to the Asuras.  The Asuras cut off the point of that flame held forward. It settled down on this earth and became that Krimuka tree; hence it is sweet, for there is vital essence in it. Hence also it is red, for it is a flame, that Krimuka tree being the same as Agni; it is in the shape of fire that he imparts growth to it- Satapata Brahmana 6-6-2-11

 

When Prajapati performed the first offering, a Vinkankata tree (Flacouritas apida) sprang forth from that place where, after offering, he cleansed his hand  –6-6-3-1

 

“When the gods and Asuras, both of them sprung from Prajapati, strove together, all the trees sided with the Asuras, but  the Udumbara tree alone did not forsake the gods. The gods having conquered the Asuras took possession of their trees. They said, ‘come let us lay into the Udumbara tree whatever pith, whatever vital sap, there is in these trees; were they then to desert us they would desert us worn out like a milked-out cow or like an ox that has been tired out drawing the cart. Accordingly they laid into the Udumbara tree what pith and essence there was in those trees; and on account of that it matures fruit  equal to all other trees; hence that tree is always moist, always full of milky sap- that Udumbara tree indeed, being all the trees, is all food—Sat Br. 6-3-2-3

 

Aitareya Brahmana also gives the same story (1-23)

 

(VERY IMPORTANT POINT: Gods and Asuras came from Brahma/Prajapati. Foreigners wont highlight this point anywhere in their writings; those cunning and conspiring people wanted to project Asuras as aborigines or Dravidians. Throughout Hindu literature, Asuras, Rakshasas or so called Shudras are shown as children of same father and mother)

 

“Trees were temples of Divinities, and in the old way the simple country folk to this day dedicate any remarkable tree to a god”—Pliny in Natural History 12-3

Pliny (23-79 CE) was a Roman scholar and his Natural History reflected the Hindu views on Trees.

 

Persian Poet Haafiz praised the trees too,

“Mark where yon tree rewards the stony shower

With fruit nectareous, or the balmy flower,

All nature calls aloud, ‘Shall man do less

Than heal the smiter and the railer bless?”

Posted by Lalgudi Veda, Vellerukku, Siddhavatam

In India that is Hindustan all life is sacred. Hindus are believers in the law of continuity, for in their creed the life of gods is connected with that of demons, the life of demons  with men, the life of men with animals, the life of animals with that of trees and plants, the life of plants with a supposed life in rocks and stones, and the divine soul is thought to permeate all. There is no break anywhere. Tamil Saints like Manikkavasagar sings about several births of soul from stone to man. According to Hindus, all plants are conscious beings, having distinct personalities and souls of their own as gods, demons, men and animals (Manu 1-49).

 

Good spirits and demons occupy the trees. They may often resort to it as guests or take up their abode as tenants.

 

There is a firm belief that certain trees are demon haunted. Tamils believe that demons occupy Tamarind trees. However it is necessary to make clear  distinction between sacred trees and trees feared as the home of evil spirits. Hindus worship trees out of fear or out of its sacredness. Another reason for the worship of trees is their wonderful utility in daily life. Their shade is grateful in a hot climate. Their wood is the source of fuel/fire. Their fruits, juices are bark have medicinal and curative properties. Plamyra palm or Coconut tree of south India has over fifty distinct uses.

Huge banyan trees are assembling point for vendors, gossip mongers, Assembly Hall and Court House of the village communities. It becomes the abode of village god or Ganesh in South India.

Kuruntha Tree, Avudayar Koil, by Lalgudi Veda

 

TREE MARRIAGE

 

In the olden days a Hindu who plants a grove of mango trees will not take the fruit f the mango tree before they have been married to another kind of tree, usually a tamarind tree, sometimes an acacia or even a jasmine plant which is planted in the grove. It is done only when the mango tree reaches fruit bearing stage. In the same way a tank is married to a plantain tree.

 

The tree worship began in Vedic age. We see a whole Mandala of Rig Veda is devoted to Soma (plant) worship. Pipal tree is worshipped from the Vedic days. Rishis/ seers are named after Pipal trees. Buddha, born as a devoted Hindu, did penance under the pipal tree (Bodhi).  Parijata came form the ocean when demons/ Asuras and Devas/angels churned the milky ocean.

 

Tree worship is seen among tribal Hindus as well; in the Birbhum district annual pilgrimage is made to shrine in the jungle to leave offerings to a Bel tree.

 

The custom of hanging votive offerings or rags or threads on the trees is of great antiquity. It is seen from Kashmir to Kanyakumari.

Kadamba  Tree in Chir Ghat, Yamuna River

This custom existed in other parts of the world as well; names like Holyoake, Hollywood recall the English worship of trees and groves.

 

Ovid (43 BCE), the Roman poet, says,

“There stood a mighty oak of age-long strength

Festooned with garlands, bearing on its trunk

Memorial tablets, proofs of helpful vows”

–Metamorphoses, 8-741, also Fasti 3-267

 

This Hindu custom was prevalent in different parts of the world; now we can see such pictures in museums or in their literature; but in Hindu India, where it originated, is still practised!!

 

The famous Bodhi tree in Gaya (Bihar, India) and its sister trees in Sri Lanka, Tamarind tree of Tansen and Nammalvar, Banyan Tree of Lord Krishna and Panchavati (five Banyan trees) of Lord Rama are some examples. There are hundreds of trees like these throughout India Every Tamil temple has a tree worshipped in its complex.

A pilgrim under a tree

Classical analogies of tree deities are found in many places: Daphne turned into a laurel that Apollo honours for her sake, and the sorrowing sisters of Phaethon changing into trees, yet still dropping blood and crying for mercy when their shoots are torn”

–Metamorphoses of Ovid 1-452, 2-345

 

Like I have pointed out earlier, they are all in old literature or museums in other parts of the world; In India, Hindus practise it even today and worship all the nature as God; and India is not primitive; it is the first developing country to send a spaceship into sky; it is the first developing country to explode a nuclear device. it is the country with highest number of computer personnel.

–Subham–

 

 

STRANGE STORIES ABOUT TREES, KUSHA AND DHURVA GRASS IN VEDAS –Part 1 (Post No.4368)

Ganesh with Dhurva Grass (Arukam Pul in Tamil)

 

STRANGE STORIES ABOUT TREES, KUSHA AND DHURVA GRASS IN VEDAS –Part 1 (Post No.4368)

 

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 5 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4368

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Origin of vegetation on the earth explained in the Aitareya Brahmana (5-23):

“The earth is the Queen of the Serpents, for she is the queen of all that moves (sarpat). She was in the beginning without hair (without grasses, bushes, trees etc). She then saw the mantra of the Rig Veda (10-189) which commences with

‘This spotted Bull (the sun) hath come, and sat before the mother (the Earth) in the East

Advancing to his Father, Heaven. ‘As expiration from his breath, his radiance penetrates within’.

 

In consequence of it she (the Earth) obtained a motely appearance, she became variegated, being able to produce any form she might like, such as herbs, trees and all other forms. Therefore, the man who has such a knowledge obtains the faculty of assuming any form he might choose.”

DURVA GRASS

The origin of Durva grass, of which much is made in connection with Hindu sacrifices, is described as follows:

“The Hair of Prajapati, which were lying n the ground when he was disjointed, became herbs. The vital air then went out from within him, and that having gone out, he fell down. He said, ‘Verily this vital air has undone me!’ and because he said, ‘it has undone (dhurve) me’, hence  the name Durva; durva doubtless being what is mystically called Durva, FOR THE GODS LOVE THE MYSTIC”—- Satapata Brahmana 7-4-2-11/12

 

Concept of ‘body being Microcosm and the Earth being Macrocosm was borrowed by the Greeks from the Hindus; so plants are equal to hair, blood vessels are equal to rivers etc.

 

The second point to be noticed is Gods love the Mystic, hence queer names and strange explanations. This means they dot speak straight forward language. So one must be careful in translating or interpreting.

 

The third point is reasoning out is found in the Vedic period itself. People named different plants differently on the basis of certain things.

KUSA GRASS

“He then places a bunch of Dharba grass (Kusa) on the middle of the altar site; for the gods then placed plants thereon, and in like manner does the sacrifice, now place thereon- — Satapata Brahmana 7-2-3-1

 

The reference in the next quotation is to the legend of Indra’s killing of Vritra, when the waters, disguised by his putrefying carcase, rose and flowed over —– Satapata Brahmana 1-1-3-5

“Whence spring these grasses of which the strainers are made; for they represent the water which was not putrified; in 7-3-2-3, we read of ‘Stalks of Kusa grass, for these are pure, and sacrificially clean……….. for the top is sacred to the gods.

 

Unclean Plants

There were plants , which are sacrificially unclean; it is said that Greek Philosopher Pythagoras banned beans and fasting Roman Catholics banned certain food.

 

Vedas allowed Forest Plants and Fruits of trees:

“Let him therefore eat only what grows in the forest or the fruit of trees. Barku Varsha said, ‘Cook beans for me, for no offering is made of them! This, however, he should not do; for pulse serves as an addition to rice and barley; and hence they increase the rice and barley by means of it; let him therefore eat only what grows in the forest —– Satapata Brahmana 1-1-1-10

 

Referring to the same incident in Prajapati’s life, we read the origin of Udembara tree —– Satapata Brahmana 7-4-1-39

“When Prajapati was relaxed, Agni took Prajapati’s fiery spirit and carried it off to the south, and there stopped; and because after carrying (karsh) it off, t stopped (ud-ram), therefore Karshmarya sprang up. And Indra took Prajapati’s igour and wet away to the noth; it became the Udumbara tree”

(Fig and its varieties)

UDUMBARA TREE

In Vishnu Sahsranama Nyagroda, Udumbara and Asvatta are worshipped as Vishnu. All these belong to Ficus family.

 

The bathing chair of Udumbara wood figures prominently in Taittiriya sBrahmana 2-6-5, where we find an address to to it and another to the leather spread upon it, a mantra to be repeated when sitting upon the chair, another after sitting thereon, another when descending rom chair, another inaudibly after descending from the chair, and no end of others in the course of the bathing, including many addressed to Agni and the Sun; some of which may be heard uttered to this day on the banks of the Ganges or other bathing places.

 

When Hindus couldn’t get the Udumbara wood they replaced it with a bundle of Dhurva grass. The details are given in Taittiriya Brahmana2-7-9-10/11

 

Tomorrow I will give the stories of Krimuka and Viekantka Trees

 

—-to be continued

 

–subham–

 

 

WATER, WATER, EVERYWHERE IN THE HINDU VEDAS! (Post No.4341)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 27 October 2017

 

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Post No. 4341

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Water occupies a pre-eminent position among the five elements, in the Hindu scriptures. A Hindu cannot survive without water. From birth to death every ceremony is done with the help of water. Brahmins cannot survive without water. So they lived on the banks of the rivers. Even today all the Brahmin streets called Agraharams are on the banks of the rivers. This poohpoohed the theory of half-baked people like Max Mullers and Caldwells who thought that the Vedic Hindus came from arid or snow clad regions of Central Asia or Europe and Dravidians came from the Mediterranean regions.

 

Water is, of course, essential for every human being whether you are a Hindu or not. But no literature praised water like the Hindu scriptures. Even a today a Brahmin worships water three times a day. Apart from that, the  Hindus discovered the enormous power of water. they can create missiles with it. They can curse any one with water or give a boon to anyone with water.

 

The whole of Sanskrit literature and the Tamil literature repeated the phrase sea-clad earth thousands of times. Whenever a Tamil poet or a Sanskrit poet wants to describe the earth they will say ‘sea clad’, or ‘sea clothed earth’. Asvini  Devas, the mysterious gods of the Rig Veda, had hundred oared ships and went deep into the ocean to rescue ship wrecked people according to the Rig Veda.

 

The mighty Saraswati rives is praised as ‘ocean like’ in the Rig Veda. Modern atomic research (carbon dating of isotopes) and astronomical research (NASA satellite pictures) showed that the Saraswati River Civilization existed before the Indus valley Civilization. So, water is the mainstay of the Vedic Hindus. The Vedas reverberated on the banks of the River Saraswati for the first time.

17 Kinds of Water!

Idiots and half-baked people wrote lot of nonsense about the Vedas in ENGLISH! They wrote that the Vedic people were nomads and those people mostly wrote silly/ nonsense in Sanskrit. But when we read the Vedas we are surprised to see the subjects they deal with. For the first time 27 stars are mentioned in the Brahmana literature. Since foreign idiots knew only Greek literature, they did not know the vast topics covered in the Vedic literature. Even if you just write the titles of the subjects you will know what they knew and you wouldn’t dare to call them primitive.

 

In the consecration ceremony of a king, as given in the Satapata Brahmana there are 17 different kinds of water used in order to infuse their different kinds of vigour into the king. This shows the importance of water in the Vedic literature.

Lot of half-baked people dated the Vedic literature differently and made themselves laughing stocks. First, they wrote that the Vedic Hindus were nomads and primitive people and then in their translations of Brahmanas which were dated  200 years after the Rig Veda by them,  the world’s highest decimal number and the consecration of a king with 17 types of water, 27 stars etc are shown.

 

Even in the Rig Veda, the oldest scripture in the world, a vast area from Ganges to rivers in Afghanistan is described. The world’s biggest and oldest geography book!

 

The 17 different waters are:

1.Water from the River Saraswati

(This explodes the theory of half baked  ‘scholars’ and  Marxist idiots, because Saraswati disappeared around 2000 BCE. So Satapata Brahmana or the ceremony it denotes existed before 2000 BCE)

2.Water that rises in front of him (called males wave), when he steps into water.

(either we don’t know their geography jargon or we don’t know their coded language)

3.Water that rises behind him

4.The flowing water

5.Such water as flows against the stream of the flowing water

6.Water that flows off the main current

7.The Lord of the waters (sea?)

8.Water from a whirlpool

9.Water from a standing pool of flowing water in a sunny spot

10.Water raining while the sun shines

11.Water from a pond

12.Waters from a well

13.Dew drops

14.Honey- one kind of water

15.Embryonic waters

16.Milk- another kind of water

17.Clarified butter

When the mantra says honey, milk, clarified butter we don’t know whether they meant them or a type of water. When they said embryonic waters we wonder what it is.

But through out the Vedic literature it is said that life came from the waters. Later Puranas also showed the first Avatar of Vishnu in waters.

Prajapati (Brahma) is given the number of 17 (another mystery) and the mantra says 17 kinds of water brings together, for Prajapati is 17 fold, and Prajapati is the sacrifice.;that is why he brings together 17 kinds of water.

Water in the Rig Veda

Hymn 9 in the 10th Mandala of Rig Veda is addressed to the Waters as Divinities and the first three of the nine verses are repeated by all Brahmins at their morning ablutions (Sandhyavandanam). The same three are used in the making of firepan, as described in the Sat. Br.(6-5-1-2) in which we read,

“Hence this triplet (RV10-9-1/3) is these waters which appeared as one form.

“This whole earth dissolved itself all over the water; all this universe appeared as one form only, namely water (6-1-1-12)

“Agni, we know that source whence thou art come, – the source, doubtless, is the heavenly waters, for from the waters he first came. In the sea the manly minded kindled thee in the water—the manly minded is Prajapati; thus, in the waters Prajapati kindled thee – the man watcher hath kindled thee, O Agni, in the udder of the sky—the man watcher, doubtless, is Prajapati, and the udder of the sky is water—thee whilst standing in the third region, doubtless, is the sky. the buffaloes made thee grow in the lap of the waters—the buffaloes, doubtless, are the vital airs; thus the vital airs made thee grow in the sky—Sat.Brah 6-7-4-5

Geographically we are informed that an ocean of water surrounds the earth. Later Puranas refer to the seven concentric oceans of milk, ghee, sugarcane etc.

“He surrounds this world with water—it is with the ocean that he thus surrounds it on all sides, and hence the ocean flows round this world in a moat- Sat. Br.7-1-13

 

Hindus were the first one to describe this world ‘round’ in shape (Anda=egg) and they are the one who described the universe is round (Hiranyagarbha). I have also written about how the Hiranyagarbha gave birth to the Big Bang theory.

Satapata Brahana and other Brahmanas have lot of things about water which may be considered unintelligible (or silly by foreigners) today. The reason being they were translated into English (which I and many others follow today) by people who don’t know anything about Hindu culture; leave alone the lack of knowledge about Hindu beliefs, they were anti-Hindu which is reflected in their lectures (please read my articles on Max Muller and his bluff)

–Subham–

 

ORIGIN OF ANIMALS AND BIRDS ACCORDING TO BRAHMANAS (Post No.4326)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 22 October 2017

 

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Post No. 4326

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There are strange stories about the appearance of animals and the origin of animals and birds in the Brahmana literature.

The reddish appearance of a white horse’s mouth is explained as follows:-

“Agni went away from the gods; he entered the water. The gods said to Prajapati: Go thou in search of him; to thee, his own father, he will reveal himself He became a white horse, and went in search of him. He found him on a lotus, having crept forth from the water. He eyed him, and Agni scorched him.  Hence the white horse has, as it were, a scorched or reddish mouth, and indeed is apt to be weak-eyed. Agni thought he had hit and hurt him, and said to him, ‘I grant thee a boon’.

–Satapata Brahmana,7-3-2-14

 

Agni’s mark is also on the shoulder of the Ox:

“For such a one (as an ox) is of Agni’s nature, since its shoulder (bearing the yoke) is as if burnt by fire.”

–Satapata Brahmana,4-5-1-15

“The Asuras persecuted the Devas and came into contact with them. The Devas turned horses (asva) and kicked them with their feet. Thence the horses are called ‘asva’ from ‘as’ to reach. He who obtains this knowledge obtains all he desires. Thence the horse is the swiftest of animals because of its kicking with the hind legs. He who has such a knowledge destroys the consequences of guilt”

–Aitareya Brahmana Vol.1 (Haug’s Vol.2, page 319)

 

This was the more necessary because animals, and even plants avenged in a future existence injuries inflicted on them in this life—Satapata Brahmana, 11-6-1-1

 

The origin of some of the birds and quadrupeds is explained in the following texts:-

“Tvashtri had a three-headed, six eyed son. He had three mouths, and because he was thus shaped, he was called Visva-Rupa (all shape). One of his mouths was Soma-drinking, one spirit-drinking, and one for other food. Indra hated him, and cut off those heads of his. And from the one which was Soma-drinking, a hazel cock sprang forth; hence the latter is of brownish colour, for King Soma is brown. And one which was spirit-drinking, a sparrow sprang; hence the latter talks like one who is joyful, for one who has drank spirits, one talks as one who enjoys himself; And from one which was for other kinds of food, a partridge sprang; whence the latter is exceedingly variegated; ghee-drops have, as it were, dropped on his wings, in one place, and honey drops, as it were, on another; for such like was the food he consumed with that mouth” — –Satapata Brahmana,5-5-4-12

Origin of Lion, Wolf and Trees

“Indra, uninvited, consumed what pure Soma there was in the tub, as the stronger would consume the food for the weaker. But it hurt him; it flowed in all directions from the opening of his vital airs; only from his mouth it did not flow. From what flowed from the nose a lion sprang; and from what flowed from the ears a wolf sprang; and from what flowed from the lower opening wild beasts sprang, with the tiger as their foremost; and what flowed from the upper opening (top of the head whence the soul issues at death), that was foaming spirit. And thrice he spat out; thence were produced the fruits called Kuvala, Karkandu and Badara, three different species of the Jujube tree). Indra became emptied out of everything, for Soma is everything. Being thus purged by Soma

he walked about, as one tottering. The Aswins cured him by this offering… By offering he indeed became better.”

–Satapata Brahmana,5-5-4-8

My Comments:–

These stories are like stories told by the illiterate tribes living in the remotest parts of the forest or hills. But unless they have hidden meanings they would not have survived from 1000 BCE. More over along with such stories we have very high thoughts, big numbers in mathematical order, information about 27 stars, linguistics etc. So we have to do more research into their statements. Foreigners called these writings, silly, childish and gibberish. But Hindus value them as mantras (holy spells or magic spells).

–Subham–