Post No.7480

Date uploaded in London – 21 January 2020

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(List of 57 generations of Gurus is attached at the end)

Hindus are the only people in the world who use geographical and historical data in their everyday ritual. No where in the world we can see such a historical sense. While they do Pujas in the temple or at home, they begin it with Sankalp (vow) in which they refer to Manvantara, Yuga, Year, Date, Day and their location on earth. It will even beat the google map. Because they have divided the entire northern hemisphere into several ‘dwips’ (land mass), and they say where in the world they do that ritual. Let us forget all these Mantra stuff and come to the real world!

Foreign ‘scholars’ who have no faith in Hinduism or practical experience accused Hindus of  people with no historical sense. They praised only one Kashmiri Brahmin as the first one with Historical sense. That Brahmin named Kalhana wrote Raja Tarangini (River of Kings) with the names of Kings and their periods which can be understood by foreigners. But surprise, surprise! the foreign ‘scholars’ rejected his first four chapters in Raja Tarangini saying it contains myths and unhistorical information.  It is like praising a beautiful woman and saying the part above her neck is Ugly!!! The fact of the matter is Kalhana challenges the date of Buddha, Kali Yuga, Kanishka etc which didn’t suit the ‘scholars’.

Let me come to the topic of the day!

I titled it as ‘57 generations at one go’. What is it?

Brihad Aranyaka Upanishad is the oldest of the 108 Upanishads. Even the jaundice eyed foreigners generously dated it as 850 BCE material. But Hindus believe it is still older which is proved by the internal evidence. This Big Forest (Brihad Aranyaka) Upanishad has a chapter called Vamsa Brahmana in which it gives 57 generations of teachers and two gods.

Foreign historians give 25 years per generation/ per king. But when it comes to forest living , peace loving, meditative, god fearing, vegetarian Gurus it must be longer than 25 years. So let me stretch it to 30 to 40 years and give a rough calculation.

30X 57 generations  =1710 years or

40 X 57 = 2280 years

Before 850 BCE which means , the first Guru for this particular Upanishad lived 2560 years or 3130 years before our time!!

Can we rust this information?

Yes , you can trust it because,

Even foreigners believe all that is said in Vedic literature is true, but they doubt Puranic information. But we have other strong proof from archaeological and historical sources.

Kabilar, the Brahmin poet, who contributed the highest number of Tamil poems to Sangam Tamil Corpus, sings about a chieftain named Irungovel in Purananuru verse 201 as the person in the 49th generation in his line. The most famous Tamil commentator Nacchinarkiniyar , a Brahmin belonging to Bharadwaja Gotra, says that the Yadavs came to Tamil Nadu with a group after Krishna’s demise. Kabilar lived 2000 years ago and if we add another (25 X49) 1225 years it means 3225 years. This is about Irugovel’s forefather’s  arrival in Tamil Nadu. I am referring it to prove that the number of generations is used commonly and to prove Hindus had this historical sense of accounting.

If one comes to all Mutts and Adeenams in Tamil Nadu one can see they always use the generations to say this ascetic is the 68th in the line of Acharyas or 157 th etc.This accounting generation is used even today.

Aihole Inscription and Parthivasekarapuram Copper Plates used Kaliyuga years even during fifth century.


In the list of 57 generations we see some strange names of Rishis. That proves it is very ancient.

In the list we see several Rishis has the same name. This is very important. Hindus very often come across the names of Indra, Agastya, Visvamitra, Vasistha, Bhoja, Vikramditya, Sankaracharya, Janaka, Avvaiyar etc and get confused. The Pauranic speakers projected them as one person. It is incorrect. Look at the list of Popes in Vatican City.

Popes with the name of John – 23 Popes!

Benedict -16, Leo- 13, Gregory 16!

Go to the list of Pharaohs of Egypt; there are 14 Ramesses!

So, Hindus must number them like Westerners to avoid confusion (Eg. Pope John XIV, Gregory XIII).

One more information about Indian Geography in the list:-  One name has the prefix Vidharbi meaning he is from Vidharba region. So even thousands of years ago we have used the prefix showing the region. Most of Sangam Tamil Poets have prefix such as Madurai, Karur, Uraiyur etc showing where they came from. So they had geographical sense 2000 years ago.

If we read chapters after the ‘Vamsa Brahmana’ , we will come across several states in North India such as Videha (Bihar, Nepal), Panchala (Punjab, Haryana). Buddhist literature of sixth century BCE mentioned 16 Mega Kingdoms (Maha Janapada) in North India. Vedic literature belongs to a period long before Buddha’s time.

Now read the list and see that it goes beyond the time of Indus-Sarasvati River Civilization!

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Post No.7476

Date uploaded in London – 20 January 2020

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There is a saying in Tamil , “A IS KNOWN (SEEN) WHEN HE IS BORN” (Vilaiyum Payir Mulaiyile Theriyum). One can recognise a genius even at his early years. Picasso started his art work at the age of nine. And kept them all through his life and donated some of them to  Barcelona Museum in Spain. Now they may be worth millions of dollars or Euros. Two of them are just paper cutting figures of Dog and Dove. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

London Newspapers have featured them because they are going to be exhibited in Royal academy until April 2020. They are among 300 works gathered from around the world for the show. The exhibition is called ‘Picasso and Paper’. He had a life long fascination for paper and would buy very expensive high quality paper to work with but would equally  draw on the back of an envelope. He never threw anything away and would keep even bus tickets and cinema tickets.

The exhibition also features a section looking at the materials Picasso used throughout his career including the salad bowl he used as a block for making an early wood cut. This reminds another Tamil saying ‘Even a blade of grass is a weapon for a skilled person’ (Vallavanukku Pullum Ayutham). tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Picasso’s father was an artist and his parents recognised his exceptional talent even as a child. He was very much taught and encouraged to develop his art.

Picasso drew incessantly as well as using paper to make sculptures, prints and photographs.  The exhibition includes works more recognisable by the master including the huge 4-5 metre long collage Women at their Toilette and his 1962 work Le Dejeuner Sur L’herbe d’Apres Manet.


Longest hair – Indian Girl in Guinness Book of Records

Another interesting news item featured in Indian and foreign newspapers is about the Indian girl Nilanshi Patel of Gujarat. She was entered as the girl with longest hair. Every woman wanted to know what hair oil she used to grow suh a long hair. But she dodged the question by saying that was a hair oli prepared by her mother with secret ingredients. Whatever the secret, hair oil companies will be ready to pay her millions of rupees to get that secret formula. Here is what the newspapers said about her:-

Source – news papers published in London and India


At the age of 6, Nilanshi Patel had her beloved long hair cut for the first time. She absolutely hated it and instantly regretted it.

That one bad hair experience resulted in Nilanshi’s vow to never cut her hair again. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Well, it’s been 10 years since she made her personal pact, and her gorgeous dark, wavy hair has been growing ever since. It’s currently 5 feet, 7 inches long — making the 16-year-old from India an official Guinness World Record holder.

According to the 2020 edition of the Guinness World Records, the “real-life Rapunzel” now has the longest hair of any teenager in the world!

Nilanshi’s hair requires constant maintenance, but she’s more than happy to put in the time and care. Her supportive mother helps by massaging mustard oil into her locks every day. Other than that, the teen doesn’t use any special products or shampoos.

Her mother hopes her daughter will let her amazing hair grow longer so that she will be even more famous.

Patel says she washes her hair once a week and amazingly, it takes only a half-hour to dry. However, it takes an hour just to comb it — something her mother happily assists with. “My mother helps me to braid and to comb my hair,” she says, explaining that she has always been supportive of her decision to keep growing it. “I style it as a long braid and also as a bun” — the latter is her go-to style for special occasions and table tennis. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Amazingly, Patel’s hair isn’t even a third of the length of the that of the adult woman with the longest hair. That Guinness World Record has been held since 2004 by China’s Xie Qiuping, whose hair measures more than 18 feet long. She started growing her hair at age 13 — seven years older than Patel when Patel started — so the 16-year-old could conceivably surpass hers one day.

Although she says her friends call her a “real-life Rapunzel,” Patel also gets questions from people who assume her hair gets in the way of everyday activities. “I don’t face any problems with my hair. I do all the sports and all the things with me hair,” she says. “It’s a lucky charm for me, clearly.”

Who is Rapunzel?

 It is a German fairy tale. Other languages also had similar stories.

A lonely couple, who want a child, live next to a walled garden belonging to a sorceress.[11] The wife, experiencing the cravings associated with the arrival of her long-awaited pregnancy, notices some rapunzel (a salad green in most translated-to-English versions)[12] growing in the nearby garden and longs for it. She refuses to eat anything else and begins to waste away, and the husband begins to fear for her life– one night he decides to break into the garden to get some for her. When he returns, she makes a salad out of it and greedily eats it. It tastes so good that she longs for more. So her husband goes to get some more for her. As he scales the wall to return home, the sorceress catches him and accuses him of theft. He begs for mercy, and she agrees to be lenient, and allows him to take all the rapunzel he wants, on condition that the baby be given to her when it’s born.[13] Desperate, he agrees. When his wife has a baby girl, the sorceress takes her to raise as her own and names her “Rapunzel” after the plant her mother craved. She grows up to be the most beautiful child in the world, with long golden hair.[14] When she turns twelve, the sorceress locks her up inside a tower[15] in the middle of the woods, with neither stairs nor a door, and only one room and one window. In order to visit Rapunzel, the sorceress stands beneath the tower and calls out: tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Rapunzel!Rapunzel!Let down your hair

That I may climb thy golden stair!

One day, a prince rides through the forest and hears Rapunzel singing from the tower. Entranced by her ethereal voice, he searches for her and discovers the tower, but is naturally unable to enter it. He returns often, listening to her beautiful singing, and one day sees the sorceress visit, and thus learns how to gain access to Rapunzel. When the sorceress leaves, he bids Rapunzel let her hair down. When she does so, he climbs up and they fall in love. He eventually asks her to marry him, which she agrees to. But the sorceress prevented her escape. Prince also lost his eye sight

For years, he wanders through the wastelands of the country and eventually comes to the wilderness where Rapunzel now lives with the twins to whom she has given birth, a boy and a girl. One day, as she sings, he hears her voice again, and they are reunited. When they fall into each other’s arms, her tears immediately restore his sight. He leads her and their twins to his kingdom,[20] where they live happily ever after.

Tags – Picasso, paper art, London exhibition, Dog and Dove, Longest hair, Nilanshi Patel, Rapunzel

Xxx subham xxx



Post No.7474

Date uploaded in London – 20 January 2020

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First let us look at two basic facts:-

1.Greeks is relatively a modern term given to the people by Romans. Now it is called Hellas. Scholars could not give the meaning of both the names. Only conjectural theories are there.

2.Greek civilization did not begin in mainland but in an island known as Crete.

Now let me give some important words connected with earliest period of Greek History:

3.First civilization in Greece is MINOAN. In Tamil ‘’MIINAVAN meaning a King of ancient Tamil Kingdom of Pandyas. They had the title Miinavan (equivalent to Sanskrit Matsyas. Both Miin and Matsya mean Fish in English)

4.One of the earliest kings mentioned by Herodotus and others is PANDION . Oldest Tamil Kingdom is Pandiyan kingdom. Their Tamil academies are dated to a fabulous period of 10,000 years (In Iraiyaanar Akapporul  Urai)


Who was PANDION?

5.According to Herodotus, the Lycians originally came from Crete and were the followers of Sarpedon. They were expelled by Minos and ultimately settled in territories belonging to the Solymoi (or Milyans) of Milyas in Asia Minor. The Lycians were originally known as Termilae before being named after Lycus who was the son of Pandion.

–from Wikipedia under Lycians.

6.Note another important word in the above  passage:

They were called TERMILAI. Scholars have already identified that DRAVIDA became DRAMILA which became TAMIL or vice verse.

So we can easily see TERMILAI is nothing but Dramila i.e Tamils.

If a person concocts a theory on a single word , scholars will summarily reject it. But we see Three words here: Minoan, Pandion and Termilai. So one can not reject them just like that. And all these are said by the earliest historian Herodotus of sixth century BCE!

7.The comparisons do not stop there. More interesting things are “N” ending in Pandion, another king Sarpindon etc. This is a typical Tamil feature.

8.Early Historians added one more interesting information. They were a matriarchal society. They called themselves by their mothers names.

This is again a Tamil feature. In my article about Amazons of India (Stri Rajyas= Woman Kingdoms) of India I have given two Stri Rajyas, one in North West India and another in Tamil Nadu. Even Megasthanes referred to ‘Pandeya’ Queen of Madurai 2300 years ago. That was Goddess Meenkashi of Madurai. She may have lived several hundred years before Megathanes. Like we worship Kshatria kings Rama and Krishna as Gods, she would have become a Goddess in course of time. In fact, Tamil and Sanskrit literature use the one word for God and King! tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Arjuna- Alli Rani (Rani=Queen) is a famous dance theme in Tamil folklore. Allirani is named Chirangada in Mahabharata. So matriarchy existed in Tamil Stri Rajya at one time.

My Comments:

Based on the above facts, what I surmise is there was a fight between the Tamil migrants in Crete Island; Tamil Minoan (Miinavan) and Tamil Pandion (Pandyan) had fraternal fight like we see in the Mahabharata or later Tamil Sangam Period History. In fact, Tamils are the longest fighting race in the world. Three Tamil kings fought among themselves continuously for at least 1600 years till they invited Muslims to interfere. And Muslims devoured all the three Tamil kingdoms and finished Tamil Rule in Tamil land in 14th century CE. In short Tamil rulers committed suicide by inviting Muslim invaders.

Back to Greece

Greek is place where people of mixed races migrated and a lot of newer things emerged from 8th Century BCE when Homer wrote first Greek epics Iliad and Odyssey . They had a darker period of 400 years before Homer. No scholar is able to tell us what happened.

9.We see lot of similarities between the Greeks and Hindus.

I have already written about the following:

1.Rig Vedic Sarama dog story in Greek Hermes Dog story

2.Comprison between Penelope and Nappinnai in Tamil

3.Torjan Horse came from Turaga (horse in Sanskrit). When you say Trojan Horse actually you are saying Horse Horse Story. The word Turkey came from Turaga where from Hindus imported horses. The earliest Sanskrit inscription, writing, manual, letters – all came from Turkey-Syria region.

(Please read my articles or Wikipedia articles on Mitannian Civilization, Amarna/Dasaratha letters in Egypt, Kikkuli’s Horse manual with Sanskrit instructions—all dated 14th century BCE!!!) tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

10.More New information

Words Crete is from the Sanskrit word Krita/Crown.

If you look at the map of Greece, you can see Crete looks like a crown on the head of Greek Mother, like India has Kashmir crown on Bharat Matha (Mother India).

Some scholars believe Shresta (the best) became Crete.

11.More Tamil words!

Tamils called all their ports Thurai. It is in the most famous city of TROY.

So with Troy, Pandion, Minovan and Termilai we are dead sure about Tamil connection to ancient Greece.

My Pet Theory

From 2012 I have been writing in this blog that Sanskrit and Tamil were the two languages that gave birth to other ancient languages. Tamil and Sanskrit came from one source, Lord Shiva, according to Tamil poets. Because they had the same morphological structure Agastya Rishi from the Himalayas came and codified the first grammar book for Tamil. This is also not disputed by anyone. From Kalidasa’s Raguvamsa to the greatest modern Tamil poet Bharati we read about Tamil-Pandya-Agastya connection.

Even before Alexander’s invasion Tamil words are found in Greek. Common origin of Sanskrit and Greek are accepted by all world scholars. My theory is Tamil also belonged to same root and the case suffixes and the Sandhi Rules (Joining rules) are unique to Tamil and Sanskrit.

12.Tamil words in Greek

I have already listed in my earlier posts the following words:

Paleo (Pazaiaya in Tamil), Tele (Tholai), Nereids/water nymphs (Neer), Oryza (Arisi), Odometer (Odu), Syrinx (Suranga), Dolia (Thaazi), Penelope (Nappinnai, Pene=Pinnu),

Amphorae (ambanam, ambaaram), Alpha  (A, Aa), Pepper (Pippali), Tyrannos (Thiram), Pathos (Padu, Vathai), Anthropo (Aan, Andiran/Indra, Andrew), Cheir (Kai), Paidi (paiyan=page in English), Mega (Maha, Maa). tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Apart from these words, Sandal, Ginger, Malapathram (cinnamon), Ezini (yavanika/curtain), Hora (hour, Orai in Tamil), Gala (Halu in Kannada Paal in Tamil) and many more words are referred to by other scholars.

A Tamil-Sanskrit root word can branch out in only two ways and it is seen in ,

Pathos – Padu, Pattaaan in Tamil and Vathai in Sanskrit

Anthropo – Aan, Andiran in Tamil and Indra in Sanskrit

Sandal – Saanthu in Tamil, Chandan in Sanskrit.

Une – Eka – Eine – One in Tamil, Eka in Sanskrit

Mega – Maha- Maa in Tamil

If we follow this pattern, we can trace most of the ancient word to either Sanskrit or Tamil.

That means the world became civilized by Sanskrit and Tamil contacts. Hindus migrated to other parts of the world from India and spread the culture.

13.YAVANAS/GREEKS are HINDUS says Mahabharata.

Greeks, Egyptians, Sumerians, Mayans say that they came to the land from elsewhere. But the only people in the world who say they are the sons of the soil are Hindus. Vedic scriptures and later Sangam books never talked about outward origin or migration into India. Hindu scripture said that even Devas (heavenly angels) wanted to be born in India. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

About Tamil literary references to Yavana guards, Yavana Colonies, Yavana lamps, Yavana wine, Yavana architects, Yavana mystic Oracles etc I have posted several articles here.

Hindu scripture say that all races Yavanas, Sakas/scythyans, Kambojas, Dravidians, Pahrlavas/Iranians and many other people came from Divine Cow- Kama dhenu. They consider all the world comprise only Hindus. But the scripture say that they did not follow all the rules of Vedas or they were born to mixed caste/ race couples. This is very unique. They say all came from the same source. If we apply it to their speeches, naturally they should have spoken only one language!

14.Yet another proof of Vedic Hindus’ expansion is seen in the names of the first Kings: India- Manu, Egypt- Manu/Menes, Greece – Manu/Minos

15.Here is a sloka from Mahabharata first book Adi Parvam:-

Yados tu yaadavaa jaataas turvasor yavanaahaa sutaahaa

Druhyor api sutaa bhojaa anos tu mlecchajaatayaha


Van Buitenen translation – tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

From Yadu sprang the Yadava;  Turvasu’s sons are known as the Yavanas; Druhyu’s sons became the Bhojas;  Anu’s, the tribes of the Barbarians.

Mlecchas are also Vedic people.

Vedas mention Pancha Janaahaa/ Five groups. They are

Yadu, Turvasu, Druhyu, Anu and Puru.

There are lot of references to Yavanas/Greeks. I will give the translation of a few more slokas/couplets  below:-

Visvamitra , while still a king, tries to take the sage Vasistha’s cow Kaamadhenu . 1-165-35

Then Vasistha became angry and cursed Visvamitra and the cow produced troops to drive away the enemies.

“From her/cow’s horse she created the Pahlavas; the Sabaras and Sakas from the dung; from her urine she created the  Yavanas, as she well high swooned with rage. From her foam she brought forth the Pundras, Kiratas, Dramidas, Simhalas,  Barbaras, Daradas and Mlecchas. And when she brought forth these manifold hosts of  Barbarians clad in their manifold armour and brandishing arms , she scattered with her furious troops that large enemy before Visvamitra’s eyes”.

Hindus always speak in symbolic language. Because of Kamadhenu there was a clash and as a result of which these people sided with Visvamitra, but defeated by Vasistha’s troops–  is the hidden message

16.What we have to see here is that the sloka mentioned all the Vedic tribes came from one source- the Divine Cow. And all parts of cow except the front are sacred to Hindus. No one came from the front part of the cow. Hindus even today touch the backside of the cows and worship them. They show the backside (arse) of the cow to the god in all the temples in the early morning .They use the cow dung and urine for purification. Cow’s urine and dung have anti-bacterial medical properties. All are our people is the simple message conveyed through this story. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

(Pahlavas- Iranians, Barbarians- Babylonians, Darads- Tartarians, Kiratas-Chinese, Yavanas- Greeks/Romans, Dravidas- South Indians etc).

Later when the Hindus spread about to different parts of the world, they slowly adopted other local customs.

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Xxx subham xxx



Post No.7454

Date uploaded in London – 14 January 2020

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Hundreds of Sanskrit words found in the RIG VEDA , the oldest book in the world, are used by us today. They are found in 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature and later Indian languages. Nemi which means Wheel is found in the . Rig Veda and Sangam Tamil literature. But this word has extended meaning , mainly the God who holds Sudarsana Chakra, ie.Vishnu/Krishna. It  is also found in Sangam Tamil literature.

It has other meanings such as Chakra/Indra, Varuna, Sun, sea, wheel of a Chariot, Chakravarti/emperor, chariot etc.

Indus-Sarasvati Civilization has many symbols in the shape of a wheel. So it is interesting to study the symbol. It may mean any one of the above meanings or the sound, if we believe the Indus language is phonetic. Many scholars believe it is logo-syllabic and not phonetic.

I have already written one article many years ago saying that the elephant with a person standing on it with wheel symbol is Indra. Indra’s name is Wheel/chakra and his Vahana is Airvavatha elephant.

Let me give the Vedic and Tamil references of NEMI first:-

Rig Veda  1-32-15; 1-141-9; 2-5-3; 5-13-6; 7-32-20; 8-46-23; 8-75-5 and many other places in later Vedic literature.

Linking Chakra/wheel with the Chakravarti/emperor is a unique Hindu concept. The Vedic concept is found in later Tamil Sangam poems. There’ Aazi’ is used for chakra. Strange coincidence is  Tamil ‘Aazi ‘and Sanskrit ‘Chakra’ mean sea as well. If we continue our research we may find more meanings. In the oldest part of the Vedas, Nemi meant wheel, particularly of Ratha/ Chariot.

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Nemi is found in the following places in Sangam Tamil literature:–

Akananuru.14-19, 175-14, 251-13, 324-11, 400-21.

Kalitokai .104-9; Kuruntokai.189-3, 227-1, 36-4, . Narrinai .394-5.

Paripatal.1-55, 3-94, 13-6, 9, 15-3, 19-46;

Purananuru .3-4, 17-7. tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

In Purananuru verse 58- Nemiyon refers to the holder of the wheel -Lord Krishna. In Kalitokai, Nemiyaan refers to Vishnu with the wheel.

In short NEMI is connected with Vishnu or Emperor. Thus it is interesting to connect  Indus- Sarasvati civilisation with Nemi. Among the ancient civilisations all foreign encyclopedias and history books written by the British, which is followed in Indian educational institutions until today, India is the only country that has no kings for 2000 years! They wrote that we had kings only from the period of Buddha. They ignored all the kings mentioned in Vedic literature and Hindu Puranas. It is an urgent task to rewrite our history.

Neminatha -Indus connection

Some years ago we read that the submarine archaeologists  have discovered the Dwaraka port that was devoured by the sea long ago. Historians dated it around Indus Sarasvati Riverbed civilization period. Hindu Puranas say that the city Dwaraka went under the sea after the demise of Lord Krishna around 3100 BCE. We had very well developed transport facilities then because Krishna shuttled between Dwaraka and Mathura. They were 700 miles apart. More over we read about Krishna’s Naval Expeditions in the Puranas. Along with this we read about Krishna’s cousin and the 22nd Tithankara Neminatha lived in the same city. His father’s name Samudravijaya shows that he was a sea merchant like the Ma Nayaka of Tamil epic Silappadikaram. Looking with this background we should study Jain literature, particularly the activities of Neminatha and his family in sea side port. Neminatha’s brother was called Rathanemi (Chariot wheel).


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Art and literature in South India attained fulness and freedom of expression in the Vijayanagara epoch.

Gangadevi was the queen of Kumara Kampanna who conquered Shambuvaraya and Sultan of Madurai in 1361 CE, and brought thereby the whole of Tamil country as far as Rameswaram under Vijayanagar Empire.

Gangadevi was well educated and a talented woman and she accompanied her husband Kumara Kampanna to the South during his expeditions. She wrote a fine Sanskrit epic called the Mathura Vijayam describing the heroic deeds of her husband. In the eulogy on poets at the beginning of the book, she gives considerable prominence to the Sanskrit poets of the Telugu country such as Agastya, Gangadhara and Viswanatha, and the last of whom was her Guru/preceptor. Special interest is attached to the poet Tikkaya “whose poetry resembles the moonlight, drunk with avidity by thirsty poets like chakora birds”.  This Tikkaya is none other than the famous Tikkana Somayaji, the author of fifteen out of the eighteen parvans/books of the Telugu Mahabharata . it is obvious that Gangadevi, the pupil of Viswanatha and an admirer of Tikkana Somayaji’s poetry is a Telugu princess.

The Mathura Vijayam is a historical epic , which describes Kampannas’s victories in the Tamil country. Its value as a source book of early history Vijayanagara history cannot easily be overestimated.  As a poetess Gangadevi takes a high rank; she is perhaps the greatest of women writers of South India who chose Sanskrit as the vehicle of expression. The appraisement of her work by editors may be quoted here with advantage –

“The work is in the form of a classical Kavya , conforming to the rules laid down in the treatises on poetics and containing the usual lengthy of the seasons , the twilight, the rising of the moon and other necessary topics. The authoress writes in the Vaidharbi style , and her thoughts which  flow with ease and simplicity , are clothed in diction at once beautiful and charming. Her similes are grand and drawn direct from nature, with none of the conventional pedantry of grammar or rhetoric which so largely spoils the productions of later-day poets. she has adopted certain scenes and descriptions which are favourite with Kalidasa, but they are transformed at the mint of her imagination and invested with new significance.



Unlike Gangadevi,  Molla (1440-1530 CE) was not a lady of royal rank. She was of humble origin, being the daughter of Keshava Shetti, a potter of Gopavaram , a few miles to the north of Nellore on the bank of river Pennai. Molla is the earliest and perhaps the greatest of the Telugu poetesses. Though her date is not definitely known, it is not at all unlikely she flourished in the palmy days of Emperor Krishnadevaraya  or a little earlier. In the eulogy on poets of her Ramayanam she refers to the famous poet Shrinatha , who lived in the closing years of fourteenth century or later. Nothing is known about her personal life except that she wrote Ramayanam.

Molla’s Ramayanam, though small in size , is a poem of considerable poetic excellence and literary merit. Until recently it used to be studied as a text book in village schools, where boys were taught to learn it by heart. Molla is a vigorous writer. Though simple, her style is dignified and her verse easy flowing and forcible. She is at her best in Sundara Kandam; the brief pen picture of Ravana , Hanuman ads Sita are unsurpassed in the whole range of Telugu literature. It is not known whether Molla wrote any other work; but her Ramayanam is enough to secure for her an abiding place in the galaxy of the immortals who enriched the Telugu language and literature.

(Note- Wikipedia has latest information from research scholars)

Source book

Great women of India, Advaita Ashrama,

Mayavati, Almora , Himalayas , 1953


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English newspapers in Britain have published a news item that the British believed in gem power. The news appeared yesterday (8-1-2020). Hindu beliefs about gem power existed in Britain 500 years ago.

The lovers’ ring lost in a field 500 years ago

A MEDIEVAL gold ring discovered in a field is likely to have been a 15th century love token, an expert says.

The band, found by a detectorist in York in 2016 and now on display at the Yorkshire Museum, is thought to have been owned by gentry or those ‘associated with royalty’ because it is set with a ruby and an emerald.

Adam Parker, of the Yorkshire Museum Trust, which bought the ring for £20,000, said emeralds were linked with chastity and rubies with love so it could have been ‘a betrothal charm’.

He said the ‘exotic’ ring, which was buried for 500 years, may have been dropped, or stolen and hidden.

It was likely to have had its origin in the Middle East or North Africa.

But experts, while describing the gold ring set with ruby and emerald as an ‘incredible treasure’, say its provenance cannot be proved.

Mr Ibbotson, 52, from Blackpool, found it in a field at Fulford, near York, in December 2016. It was officially declared treasure and he and the landowner received £10,000 each. Now, after more than two years of research, Mr Ibbotson believes it could be the ring on the index finger of Anne of Cleves in Hans Holbein’s 1539 portrait.




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A lampoon by a contemporary writer Chnna Venkanna, throws some light on Mangamma’s life. According to his account, she was the daughter of  Tupaakula Lingama Nayaka of Chandragiri and a courtesan of  Tiruvellore near  Chennai. Her name was Kanakaa. Beautiful and accomplished young Kanaka  migrated probably in search of a career to the court of Vijararaghava of Thanjavur, where talented women had the opportunity of  rising to prominence. Vijayaraghava was said to have intended to take her in to his harem, but she left Thanjavur for some reason or other and married Chokkanatha Nayaka of  Madurai, whose heart she captured by blandishments. The account, perhaps, distorted one, may contain a kernel of truth.

Mangamma alias Kanaka survived her husband and her son Rangakrishna Muthuveerappa Nayaka, and after the demise of the later in 1689 ruled the kingdom till 1707 as the regent during the minority of her grandson Vijayaranga  Chokkanatha  Nayaka.

The regency of Mangamma was a critical period in the history of  the Nayaka Kingdom of Madurai, which was threatened on one side by the Mughal forces of Aurangzeb and on the other side by the rulers of   Mysore, Thanjavur , Ramanathapuram and Travancore. Mangamma shrewdly decided that the only way of survival was to approve the supremacy of Mughal emperor. She agreed to pay him an annual tribute, and secured the goodwill of his officers and generals by suitable presents and bribes.


Towards her other enemies she adopted a policy of firmness and waged war upon them, on the whole successfully. Occasionally she had to buy off some of them with bribes, but that was only a temporary expedient. Later, when she felt she was strong enough, she overpowered the enemy and exacted compensation.   She had for her counsellor Narasappiah , great in strategy and administration and in private life a skilful player on the Veena (lute).

Mangamma’s name is almost a household name in south Tamil Nadu. There are still in existence numerous avenues  and cholutries, Dharmasalas built by her as well as the lofty piles like those that remain of the Nayaka Palaces within the fort area of Tiruchy.

Mangammal Choultry opposite Madurai railway station served thousands of pilgrims to Madurai and Rameswaram. All these are monuments to the greatness of her rule. Her benefactions to temples and gifts of Agraharams (Brahmin streets) to learned brahmins  were numerous, but she was equally liberal in her endowments to Christian churches and Muslim darghas. The dargah of Baba Nattar Auliya in Thiruchy was specially favoured and received grants of villages.

Manucci has paid a handsome tribute to her benevolence and large hearted tolerance .

Niccalao Manucci (1638- 1717) was an Italian traveller and writer, who spent his life in India during the Mughal period.


There is an interesting account of a social enactment  in her reign. The Saurashtra weavers of Madurai claimed the privilege of observing some ceremonies peculiar to Brahmins (wearing sacred thread etc). Mangamma first opposed the claim, but later sanctioned it.

There are conflicting reports about the end of her reign. According to one account, power was forcibly wrested from her hands and transferred to her grandson, on his coming of age, and the queen perished in prison. Whatever may be the truth Mangamma’s place in history  as a capable, enlightened  and beneficent ruler is unchallengeable

Source – Great Women of India, Advaita Ashrama, Mayavati, Almora, Himalayas, year 1953


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Written by London Swaminathan Uploaded in London on  – 2 JANUARY 2020 Post No.7411 contact – swami_48@yahoo.com pictures are taken from various sources; thanks.     Prabhavati Gupta was the daughter of the Gupta emperor Chanragupta II Vikramaditya 376-414 CE and the Agra Makishi or Chief Queen of King Rudrasena II of the Vakataka Dynasty ruling over wide regions of the Deccan.   Rudrasena seems to have died before the close of the fourth century. He probably left three sons Divakarasena Damodarasena and Pravarasena .   Divakarasena remained the Yuvaraja or Crown Prince while his mother ruled the country at least for thirteen years. It is believed that the sons of Rudrasena were minors at the time of their father’s death. Prabhavati Devi ruled the kingdom  as regent on behalf of the minor Yuvaraja Divakarasena.   There is no evidence to show that Divakarasena ever ascended the throne as Maharaja. In a later inscription dated the nineteenth regnal year of her son Pravarasena, she is called the mother of Maharajah Damodarasena and Pravarasena and is said to have been more than hundred years old. Prabhavati’s death does not appear to have taken place long before 455 CE, which is the date of the death of her brother Emperor Kumara Gupta I.   A charter of Prabhavati Gupta was issued from the feet of the god Ramagiriswamin, identified with the deity at Ramtek near Nagpur, probably on the occasion of her visit to the holy temple on pilgrimage. In it she has been described as a devotee of Lord Vishnu and is credited with the gotra or lineage Dharana and the family designation Gupta of her father. Her husband is known to have belonged to Vishnu vridda gotra. Thus Prabhavati’ s marriage didn’t apparently involve  the usual change of gotra. There is evidence to show that this was not essential  in a popular form of ancient marriage, possibly owing to the want of sampradana ( ceremonial offering).   —subham—       Sent


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Another interesting thing about the hymn is that it has the Greek Sphinx Riddle. Sangam Tamil literature verses and post Sangam Tamil Tirukkural reflects the views in the hymn. Bhagavad Gita also shared the same thoughts. Let me compare the riddle first.

Gigantic 187 feet tall Egyptian Sphinx is a famous edifice with a long history. It has been dated a monument from 2600 BCE. It has the face of a man and the body of a lion. Greeks had a different Sphinx with a feminine face and wings. We have such figures from 500 BCE.

In the Greek conception, sphinx is the monstrous daughter of Typhon and Echidna. The sphinx demanded human sacrifice from the Thebans every time her riddle concerning the three ages of man was unanswered. when Oedipus answered, she committed suicide. It was adopted as an emblem of wisdom.

Her riddle was ‘which animal  went on four, then two and finally three legs’; the answer being humanity- crawling baby, adult and old man with a stick. Oedipus gave the right reply.

Rig veda 10-117-8 says

“He with one foot surpasses Two foot; and Two foot leaves Three foot behind. Four foot comes at the call of

Two foot watching his herds and serving him where five met together.”

Probably the Greeks copied it like they copied the Sarama dog story in Hermes episode.

The explanation given by the Vedic commentators is

One foot – Sun (Aja Ekapada is another word for Sun)

Two Feet – human being;

Three foot – old person with a walking stick (staff);

Four feet – Dog and other animals.

Five foot – Many people who watch all these things.


Before this stanza, there are other stanzas illustrating very high thoughts. This is from the 10th Mandala of the Rig Veda.

Rig Veda 10-117-1

The gods have not ordained hunger to be our death; even to the well-fed man comes death in varied shape.

Here the poet Bitsu Angiras says that don’t condemn the begging people that they have to suffer like this because of their past sins. That is not right. Death is not only for the poor. Even well-fed rich men die.



The man with food in store, who when the needy comes in miserable case begging for food

Hardens his hear against him – though in the past he had made use of him- he surely finds  no one with sympathy.

Tamil poet Tiruvalluar says,

Wealth in the hands of a liberal person is like a useful tree bearing fruits in the middle of a town square – Kural 216

The man who is in the habit of sharing his food with others will never be afflicted with the dire disease called hunger – 227


10-117- 3

The man who is truly generous gives to the beggar  who approaches him. He puts himself at the service of the man and makes him a friend for times to come.



That man is not a friend who does not give of his own nourishment to his friend. Let the friend turn away from him. Let him find another man who gives freely.

Here also we can compare a couplet from Tirukkural-

Genuine friendship hastens to redress distress like the hand that picks up the garment quickly that slips –788


10-117- 5

Let the rich satisfy the poor and bend his eyes upon a longer path way.

Riches come now to one, now to another  like the wheels of the rolling chariot.

This simile of wheel is used by several ancient poets. Naladiyar , another moral book, also uses this wheel simile for ever moving wealth.

Longer pathway means that the rich also can face ups and downs in future and so he must look into it.



The foolish man wins food without labour; I speak the truth; it will bring ruin to him. He cultivates neither a friend nor a patron. All guilt is who he eats alone without sharing.

Lord Krishna illustrates this point in harsher terms. He says that who he eats aloe is a thief; he eats nothing but sin.

The good people who eat what is left from sacrifice are released from all sins but those wicked people who prepare food for their own sake – verily they eat sin – Bhagavad Gita 3-13

He who enjoys the god given gifts without giving to them/gods in return is verily a thief – 3-12

Tiruvalluvar also says,

Enjoying one’s food, sharing it with others, and sustaining other lives is held out as the highest virtue by learned sages – Kural 322

Here Valluvar echoes the Vedic sages.



A man gets food by ploughing the field; the legs that walk puts the road behind them. The priest who speaks is better than the one who does not speak. The friend who gives surpasses the one who does not.

Griffith comments on it,

Active exertion is necessary for success.

The speaking brahman priest – the priest who duly discharges his task of recitation for which he is engaged.



Already given in the Greek Riddle comparison (see above)



The two hands though same, do not do the same thing.

Two cows from the same mother do not give the same amount of milk

The strength and valour of the twins are not the same.

Two kinsmen do not give with the same generosity.

Griffith explains,

All men should be liberal; but we must not expect all to be equally generous.

Here we see the ways of the world beautifully explained.

The similes of twins, ploughing field give a pen picture of the agricultural society.


Last but not the least, we may compare this with the 2000 year old Tamil Sangam Poems.

A Pandya king by name Ilamperu Valuthi says that Tamils share everything that is eatable, even if its Amrta from the world of Indra. He adds that they would do anything that brings fame and name for one and never do anything wrong even if they are given the entire world.- See Puranaanuru verse-182

In another verse a philanthropist was praised as a ‘Doctor who cures the disease of Hunger’ by a Chola king – See Puram. Verse 173.

The thought of sharing and giving  is praised from the Rig Vedic days till today, from the Himalayas to Kanyakumari.


Sphinx in Egypt