Desire and Hatred: Buddha and Valluvar Think Alike -Part 4 (Post No.3925)

Research article written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 20 May 2017

 

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Post No. 3925

 

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DESIRE

Thiruvalluvar said,

If desire, the greatest of afflictions, would become extinct there would be perpetual happiness even in this world (Kural 369)

There are ten couplets on desire– 361 to 370 in the chapter 37 — in Thirukkural written by Thiruvallavar

 

And Buddha said,

Since a shower of golden coins cloud not satisfy craving desires and the end of all pleasure is pain, how could a wise man find satisfaction even in the pleasures of gods? When desires go, joy comes; the follower of Buddha finds this truth (Dhammapada 186, 187)

 

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HATRED

Valluvar said,

What is called hatred is a disease that spreads the bitterness of discord among all beings (Kural 851)

Nip in the bud the feeling of hostility and you prosper well. For one is fast ruined by fomenting hatred (Kural 859)

Out of hatred arise evils; out of love comes the glory that is called discreteness (860)

There are ten couplets on hatred – 851 to 860in the chapter 86 — in Tirukkural

And Buddha said,

If a man speaks or acts with an impure mind, suffering follows him as the wheel of the cart follows the beast that draws the cart (Dhamma 1)

He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me- Those who think such thoughts will not be free from hate (Dhammapada-2)

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CONSCIENCE & KARMA

Valluvar said,

Just as one’s shadow follows one wherever one goes, destruction follows the path of evil doer (Kural 208)

 

And Buddha said,

 

What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow; our life is the creation of our mind.

If a man speaks or acts with pure mind, joy follows him as his own shadow (Dhamma-2)

 

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NO TIT FOR TAT

Valluvar said,

 

The best way to punish those who harm you is to make them feel abashed by doing them good and thinking no more of it (Kural 314)

Tamil poet Bharati also echoed this advice

And Buddha said,

For  hate is not conquered by hate; hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal (Dhamma. 5)

 

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WEALTH

Valluvar said,

What is achieved by a man that has wealth is like witnessing a fight between elephants having climbed to the top of a hill (Kural 758)

And Buddha said,

The Wiseman who by watchfulness conquers thoughtlessness is as one who free from sorrows ascends the palace of wisdom and there, from its high terrace, sees those in sorrow below; even as a wise strong man  on the holy mountain might behold the many unwise far down below on the plain (Dhamma.28)

 

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SAINT and INDRA

Valluvar said,

Indra the King of Devas himself , will bear testimony to the will power of those who curbed

the desires of the five senses (Kural 25).

And Buddha said,

It was by watchfulness that Indra became the chief of the Gods and thus the gods praise the watchful, and thoughtlessness is ever despised (Dhamma 30)

 

Also in Atharva Veda 11-5-19

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SLANDER

Valluvar said,

If a man can look upon others faults as his own what evil can befall him? (Kural 190)

Valluvar said the same in his couplets-250, 318, 436 as well.

And Buddha said,

Think not the faults of others, of what they have done or not done. Think rather of your own sins, of the things you have done or not done (Dhamma.50)

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ELOQUENCE

Valluvar said,

Those who are unable to elucidate their learning are like a cluster of blossoms without fragrance (650).

Also in Rig Veda 10-71-5

And Buddha said,

Just as flower which seems beautiful and has colour but no perfume, so are the fruitless words of  the man who speaks them  but does them not (Dhamma.50)

 

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PATIENCE

Valluvar said,

 

Those who perform penance by fasting are certainly great but even they are not equal to those that forebear the harsh words spoken by others (Kural 160)

And Buddha said,

Watch for anger of words; let your words be self-controlled. Hurt not with words, but use your words well (Dhamma.232)

There are men steady and wise whose body, words and mind are self-controlled. They are the men of supreme self-control (Dhamma 234)

 

–SUBHAM–

Buddha and Valluvar: Great Men Think Alike! (Post No.3905)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 13 May 2017

 

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Post No. 3905

 

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Buddha and Thiru valluvar were great men Dammapada of Buddha and Tirukkural of Thiru Valluvar have amazing similarities in several couplets.

 

SAINT

He who controls his five senses by his will gain heavenly bliss (Kural 24)

They take trained elephants to battle, kings ride on royal trained elephants. The best of men are self trained men , those who can endure abuse in peace. (Dhamma 321)

 

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KNOWLEDGE

It is folly not to fear what should be feared;

to fear that which should be feared is the way of the wise (Kural -428)

Better to do nothing than to do what is wrong, for wrong doing brings burning sorrow. Do therefore what is right, for good deeds never bring pain (Dhamma 314)

 

Lord Krishna also said,

For never does any one who does good, tread the path of woe (Bhagavad Gita 6-40)

 

CONSIDERATION

It is ruinous to do what should not be done.

and ruinous also to omit what should be done (Kural -466).

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PURITY and ADULTERY

The man who commits adultery can never escape enmity, sin, fear in infamy (Kural -146) .

Four things happen to the thoughtless men who takes another man’s wife: he lowers himself, his mind is restless, he is blamed by others, he goes to hell (Dhamma 309)

Yes. The degradation of the soul, a frightened pleasure, the danger of the law, the path of hell. Considering these four let not a man go after another man’s wife(Dhamma 310)

 

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IMPARTIALITY

Like scales that always remain just and fair, wise men remain impartial and do not take sides (Kural -118).

If a man is silent because he is ignorant or a fool, he is not a silent thinker, a Muni/sanit who considers and think. But as one who taking a pair of scales, puts in what is good and rejects what is bad, if a man considers the two worlds, then he is called a Muni/saint of silence, a man who considers and thinks (Dhamma 268, 269)

Lord Krishna also said the same,

Sages see with an equal eye a learned and humble Brahmin, a cow, an elephant or even a dog  o an outcast ( Bhagavad Gita 5-18)

 

to be continued…………………..

 

–Subham–

60 second interview with The Buddha

 

(Questions are imaginary; answers are from The Dhammapada)

Buddha, people say mind is like a monkey, jumping from one thing to another. How can we control it?

The mind is wavering and restless, difficult to guard and restrain: let the wise man straighten his mind as a maker of arrows makes his arrows straight (33).

What is the eternal law?

For hate is not conquered by hate; hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal (5)

Who is happy?

The man who does good things is happy in both worlds. He is glad, he feels great happiness when he sees the good he has done (16).

Why are thoughts important?

What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow; our life is the creation of our mind (2).

Can we criticize others when they do something wrong?

Think not of the faults of others, of what they have done or not done. Think rather of your own sins, of the things you have done or not done (50).

Who is a fool?

How long is the night to the watchman; how long is the road to the weary; how long is the wandering of lives (samsara) ending in death for the fool who cannot find the path (60).

Who is wise?

Even as a great rock is not shaken by the wind, the wise man is not shaken by praise or by blame.

What is the source of joy?

Wherever holy men dwell, that is indeed a place of joy- be it in the village, or in a forest, or in a valley or on the hills (98).

 Can we call a person Hero who kills hundreds of people with his AK 47 gun?

If a man should conquer in a battle a thousand and a thousand more, and another man should conquer himself, his would be the greater victory, because the greatest of the victories the victory over oneself (103-105).

Should I postpone doing good things till my old age?

Make haste and do what is good. If a man is slow in doing good, his mind finds pleasure in evil (116).

Lord Krishna (Gita 2-58) compares a tortoise to a self controlled Yogi and you said something similar…

The man whose hands are controlled, whose feet are controlled, whose words are controlled, who is self controlled in all things, who finds the inner joy, whose mind is self possessed, who is one and has found perfect peace-this man I call a monk (362)

Lord Krishna in Gita says Arise! Attain Glory! The Self is the friend and foe of the Self.

Arise! Rouse thyself by thy Self; train thyself by thyself, thy Self. Under the shelter of thy  Self , and ever watchful, thou shall live in supreme joy (379, 380)

Buddha, you have given one full chapter for Brahmins (Chapter 26) in Dhammapada. Who is a Brahmin according to you?

A man becomes not a Brahmin by long hair or family or birth. The man in whom there is truth and holiness, he is in joy and he is a Brahmin (393)

Who is free from anger, faithful to his vows, virtuous, free from lusts, self restrained, whose mortal body is his last- him I call a Brahmin.(400)

One should never hurt a Brahmin; and a Brahmin should never return evil for evil (389)

About misers….

Misers certainly do not go to the heaven of the gods (177)

About Birth……

It is a great event to be born a man (182).

About Love…..

O let us live in joy, in love amongst those who hate! Among men who hate, let us live in love (197).

About Health……

Health is the greatest possession. Contentment is the greatest treasure.  Confidence is the greatest friend. Nirvana is the greatest joy. (204)

Buddha, Thanks a lot. You have enlightened us.