LET NO ONE HATE ME -TAMIL VALLALAR & ATHARVANA VEDA (Post No.10,534)

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Post No. 10,534

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HYMN TO EARTH BHUMI SUKTAM OF ATHARVANA VEDA (AV) CONTINUED

MANTRA 18 OUT OF 63

A beautiful prayer is in this mantra.

“Let no one hate me. Let me shine like gold”.

And note the adjectives “big and great speed of earth”.

Is it not amazing to see the attributes BIG EARTH, GREAT SPEED?

3000 years ago (date of AV 1000 BCE or before) there was no mobile phone or internet. Not much transport either between two places. And yet the poet describes “Earth! You are Vast and Mighty”.

“Your speed is also mighty”. Now only we know it rotates at the speed of 1000 miles per hour

“Consider the movement of the earth’s surface with respect to the planet’s center. The earth rotates once every 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09053 seconds, called the sidereal period, and its circumference is roughly 40,075 kilometers. Thus, the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 460 meters per second–or roughly 1,000 miles per hour”—Scientific American

And

“As schoolchildren, we learn that the earth is moving about our sun in a very nearly circular orbit. It covers this route at a speed of nearly 30 kilometers per second, or 67,000 miles per hour. In addition, our solar system–Earth and all–whirls around the center of our galaxy at some 220 kilometers per second, or 490,000 miles per hour. As we consider increasingly large size scales, the speeds involved become absolutely huge”- Scientific American

But this information was not available to anyone a few hundred years ago. Hindu saints knew it through their intuition or observation from space!

And let us continue with the same mantra……

The “Moving and Shaking of the Earth”- The Big Blue Marble!

Though Earthquakes are referred to in later Hindu scriptures and 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature, AV poet also did not miss it.

And look at the beautiful prayer…..

O Mother Earth! MAKE US SHINE FORTH WITH THE BRIGHTNESS OF GOLD.

VEDIC SOCIETY WAS VERY RICH. Very rarely we see the word poverty. The reference to gold and golden jewellery are numerous. It was an agricultural society. Tamils wished everyone to live as many years as the number of stars or number of sand particles on the shore or as many as drops of rain. But one AV hymn says “as many as the grains”. It was a pukka agricultural community.

CHESS & MATHS

Vedic Hindus were great mathematicians. The whole world agrees that Chatur Anga, now known as Chess, is invented by the Hindus. One saint went to a king and taught this beautiful board game chess. The king was amazed and was ready to offer anything he asked. The Hindu saint smiled at him and said, “Not much, put one grain in square 1 of the chess board and then put 2 grains in square and go on doubling like this until you cover all the 64 squares on the chess board. The king thought that he could do it easily.

On the entire chessboard there would be 264 − 1 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of wheat, weighing about 1,199,000,000,000 metric tons. This is about 1,645 times the global production of wheat (729,000,000 metric tons in 2014 and 780.8 million tonnes in 2019).”

No one would have thought it. Hindus were great geniuses. There are many secrets with numbers in the Vedas. Westerners who translated Vedas 150 years ago knew nothing about other fields. So, they ignored the big numbers as fancy numbers with no special meaning.

Now we know they were idiots and not scholars.

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Look at the last request of the poet in this mantra…………..

LET NO ONE HATE ME.

Even God would hesitate to say YES to his request.

Every one of us falls in love with someone without any rhyme or reason. In the same way our boss in the office hates one person for no reason and loves or likes someone else for no reason. An actor known as MGR in Tamil film world was liked by millions of people. All women were after him. But he died without an issue! He even attracted an article in the Readers Digest magazine. Million uneducated, illiterate and educated used to wait all through the night to see him. He never came to the meeting right on time. Everywhere he was stopped by surging crowd. I believe it is due to his previous births as king or a popular emperor. God or a real Guru only can cancel any bad Karma from our previous births.

We are also subject to anger and jealousy. We say something in anger and the reactions follow us as like our own shadow. Hatred develops. One of the great Tamil saints is Ramalinga Swamikal also known as Vallalar of Vadalur. He prays to God Let me not hate anyone. Let others also not hate me. I don’t want to call any one You silly fellow! Dog or ghost (Tamil words rhyme with Chi/Nay/Pey)

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Sanskrit words used in this mantra 18 are Mahat , Mahati, Mahaan, Hiranyam/gold, Mahaan Vega /great speed

And the poet concludes saying “such a beautiful earth is protected by UNERRING Inrda/God”.

Everything in the universe go by mathematical calculations. If there is a mistake that is one millionth of a fraction of a second, universes would collapse. Knowing this, poet says UNERRING god (Indra stands for God) protect the earth. It is very true. Space scientists knew this very well. A very small error will send the satellite billions of miles away from the target.

Here is the poem from Vallalar:-

  ஈயென்று நானொருவரிட நின்று கேளாத
        இயல்பு மென்னிட மொருவரீ
        திடுவென்ற போதவர்க் கிலையென்று சொல்லாம
        லிடுகின்ற திறமும் இறையாம்
    நீயென்று மெனைவிடா நிலையும் நானென்று முன்
        னினை விடா நெறியு மயலார்
        நிதியொன்று நயவாத மனமு மெய்ந்நிலை நின்று
        நெகிழாத திடமு முலகில்


    சீயென்று பேயென்று நாயென்று பிறர்தமைத்
        தீங்கு சொல்லாத தெளிவும்


        திரமொன்று வாய்மையும் தூய்மையும் தந்துநின்
        திருவடிக் காளாக்கு வாய்
    தாயொன்று சென்னையிற் கந்தகோட்டத்துள் வளர்
        தலமோங்கு கந்த வேளே
        தண்முகத் துய்யமணி யுண்முகச் சைவமணி
        சண்முகத் தெய்வ மணியே.

To be continued……………………

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DON’T HATE YOURSELF AND OTHERS- MANU, BUDDHA, CHANAKYA & VALLUVAR AGREE! (Post 4631)

DON’T HATE YOURSELF AND OTHERS- MANU, BUDDHA, CHANAKYA & VALLUVAR AGREE! (Post 4631)

 

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 18 JANUARY 2018

 

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Post No. 4631

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Hatred to oneself leads to death;

to another person loss of wealth;

to the king to destruction and

to a Brahmin to the destruction of the family

–Chanakya Niti, chapter 10, sloka 11

aatmadveshaad bhavenmrtyuh paradveshaad dhanakshyah

rajadveshaad bhavennaaso brahmadveshaat kulakshayah

 

We know that if someone hates oneself, it leads to one’s suicide; if one hates others it leads to conflicts and clashes resulting in destruction of life or property.

 

The message is any form of hatred creates problems.

Buddha in Buddhist Veda Dhammapada and Tiruvalluvar in Tamil Veda Tirukkural deal with this topic. It shows the importance of the topic.

The opposite of hatred is Love.

 

Chanakya dealt with hatred in only one couplet/ sloka.

 

Tamil poet Tiru valLuvar deals with this topic in ten couplets!

 

Valluvar says,

Out of hatred arise all evils; out of love comes the glory that is called discreteness- Kural 860

“The evil of hatred is the grief of griefs. If it is rooted out, you can enjoy the joy of joys (854)

Nip in the bud the feeling of hostility and you prosper well. FOr one is fast ruined by fomenting hatred – Kural 858

 

Buddha said,
For hate is not conquered by hate; hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal (Dhammapada1-5)

 

Valluvar said,
The best punishment for those who do evil to you, is to shame them by returning good for evil (Kural 314).

 

Manu hates Hatred!

Manu, the author of the world’s first book on law—Manu Smrti deals with hatred in more places than the Buddha.

 

In the very beginning he says law book is ‘only for those who are without passion or hatred’!

 

“Learn the religion that is constantly followed by learned men, good men who have neither passion nor hatred”- Manu 2-1

“If someone speaks wrongly and someone questions wrongly, one of them will die or incur other’s hatred “ 2-11

“By obstructing his sensory powers, destroying passion and hatred, and doing no violence to living beings, he becomes fit for immortality”- 6-60

 

“The man who is deluded to hate the king will certainly be destroyed, for the king quickly makes up his mind to destroy him” – Manu 7-12

 

“ A husband should wait for one year for a wife  who hates him; but after a year, he should take away her inheritance and not live with her”- 9-77

“Satva Guna is traditionally regarded as knowledge, Rajo Guna as hatred and passion, Tamo Guna as darkness and ignorance”– Manu 12-26

Duryodhana was an embodiment of hatred and jealousy; Yudhishthira was a symbol of love and righteousness. Duryodhana destroyed himself; Yudhishthira survived! This is a lesson from the Mahabharata.

If you want to live without problems, don’t hate anyone.

 

–subham–

 

 

 

Desire and Hatred: Buddha and Valluvar Think Alike -Part 4 (Post No.3925)

Research article written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 20 May 2017

 

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Post No. 3925

 

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DESIRE

Thiruvalluvar said,

If desire, the greatest of afflictions, would become extinct there would be perpetual happiness even in this world (Kural 369)

There are ten couplets on desire– 361 to 370 in the chapter 37 — in Thirukkural written by Thiruvallavar

 

And Buddha said,

Since a shower of golden coins cloud not satisfy craving desires and the end of all pleasure is pain, how could a wise man find satisfaction even in the pleasures of gods? When desires go, joy comes; the follower of Buddha finds this truth (Dhammapada 186, 187)

 

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HATRED

Valluvar said,

What is called hatred is a disease that spreads the bitterness of discord among all beings (Kural 851)

Nip in the bud the feeling of hostility and you prosper well. For one is fast ruined by fomenting hatred (Kural 859)

Out of hatred arise evils; out of love comes the glory that is called discreteness (860)

There are ten couplets on hatred – 851 to 860in the chapter 86 — in Tirukkural

And Buddha said,

If a man speaks or acts with an impure mind, suffering follows him as the wheel of the cart follows the beast that draws the cart (Dhamma 1)

He insulted me, he hurt me, he defeated me, he robbed me- Those who think such thoughts will not be free from hate (Dhammapada-2)

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CONSCIENCE & KARMA

Valluvar said,

Just as one’s shadow follows one wherever one goes, destruction follows the path of evil doer (Kural 208)

 

And Buddha said,

 

What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow; our life is the creation of our mind.

If a man speaks or acts with pure mind, joy follows him as his own shadow (Dhamma-2)

 

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NO TIT FOR TAT

Valluvar said,

 

The best way to punish those who harm you is to make them feel abashed by doing them good and thinking no more of it (Kural 314)

Tamil poet Bharati also echoed this advice

And Buddha said,

For  hate is not conquered by hate; hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal (Dhamma. 5)

 

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WEALTH

Valluvar said,

What is achieved by a man that has wealth is like witnessing a fight between elephants having climbed to the top of a hill (Kural 758)

And Buddha said,

The Wiseman who by watchfulness conquers thoughtlessness is as one who free from sorrows ascends the palace of wisdom and there, from its high terrace, sees those in sorrow below; even as a wise strong man  on the holy mountain might behold the many unwise far down below on the plain (Dhamma.28)

 

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SAINT and INDRA

Valluvar said,

Indra the King of Devas himself , will bear testimony to the will power of those who curbed

the desires of the five senses (Kural 25).

And Buddha said,

It was by watchfulness that Indra became the chief of the Gods and thus the gods praise the watchful, and thoughtlessness is ever despised (Dhamma 30)

 

Also in Atharva Veda 11-5-19

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SLANDER

Valluvar said,

If a man can look upon others faults as his own what evil can befall him? (Kural 190)

Valluvar said the same in his couplets-250, 318, 436 as well.

And Buddha said,

Think not the faults of others, of what they have done or not done. Think rather of your own sins, of the things you have done or not done (Dhamma.50)

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ELOQUENCE

Valluvar said,

Those who are unable to elucidate their learning are like a cluster of blossoms without fragrance (650).

Also in Rig Veda 10-71-5

And Buddha said,

Just as flower which seems beautiful and has colour but no perfume, so are the fruitless words of  the man who speaks them  but does them not (Dhamma.50)

 

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PATIENCE

Valluvar said,

 

Those who perform penance by fasting are certainly great but even they are not equal to those that forebear the harsh words spoken by others (Kural 160)

And Buddha said,

Watch for anger of words; let your words be self-controlled. Hurt not with words, but use your words well (Dhamma.232)

There are men steady and wise whose body, words and mind are self-controlled. They are the men of supreme self-control (Dhamma 234)

 

–SUBHAM–

60 second Interview with Sathya Sai Baba

Sri Sathya Sai Baba

 

Q: Babaji, Namasthe. What is the purpose of Krishna Avatar (incarnation)?

Sri Krishna was born as the eighth child of Devaki. This is significant, for Samadhi is the eighth stage of spiritual effort, coming after Yama, Niyama, Asana, and Pranayama. Pratyahara, Dharana and Dhyana. These are grouped as Ashtanga Yoga, the Eight­fold Discipline. The Lord can be visualised only after the seven steps are successfully negotiated and the mind purified in the process. Samadhi means, sama (equal) dhi (intelligence) that is say, intelligence, grasp­ing the equality (fundamental) of every be­ing. Not only will all idea of difference and distinction disappear, but, even the idea of duality—heat and cold, grief and joy, good and bad—disappears. And, when man reaches that state, the Lord is born, auto­matically in his consciousness.

Q: Baba,Where is God?

A: GOD is neither distant, nor distinct from you. God is in you, around you, behind you, above you, beside you.

Q: What should I do every day to remain good?

Start the Day with Love;
Spend the Day with Love;
Fill the Day with Love;
End the Day with Love;
This is the way to God.

Q: Thanks, Baba. I will start observing it from an auspicious day.

Yesterday has deceived you and gone; Tomorrow is a doubtful visitor. Today is a fast friend — hold fast to it.

Q: At any one time a violent agitation or a war is happening in at least one part of the world. How can we establish peace?

If there is righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in character;
If there is beauty in character, there will be harmony in the home;
When there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation;
When there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the World.

Q: Baba, even followers of religions fight among themselves. Cant you stop it?

There is only one religion, the religion of Love;
There is only one language, the language of the Heart;
There is only one caste, the caste of Humanity;
There is only one law, the law of Karma;
There is only one God, He is Omnipresent.

Q: Babaji, I have vowed to shave my head if I pass in the exam.

MANY believe that a pilgrimage to holy places is conductive to spiritual progress. They journey to Tirupathi, Rameswaram, Badrinath or Amarnath and pray for the removal of their mundane troubles. They vow to remove their hair if, through Divine intervention, they win a prize in the State Lotteries, as if God is in need of hair. This trick of bargaining is only cheating oneself in an attempt to cheat God. Do not pray to God for wealth or fame, positions of power or for the fruits of your actions. The genuine seeker will pray for nothing else but God.

Q:Babaj, I fear losing in the competition.

A: Every experience is a lesson, every loss is a gain.

Q: Is it true that human birth is better than others?

Each one of you has struggled upward from the stone to a plant,

From the plant to an animal,

From the animal to a man.

Do not slide into an animal.

Rise higher to divinity

Shining with the new effulgence of love.

Q: Swamiji Sometimes I feel bored. I don’t know how to explain my dull feelings

A: Life is Love, enjoy it;
Life is Challenge, meet it;
Life is a Song, sing it;
Life is a Dream, realize it;
Life is a Game, play it;
Life is a Goal, achieve it.

Q: Babaji,What is your message to our youths?

Bharat has always produced excellent people in abundance-intelligent, courageous, valorous, devoted, strong and virtuous. Yet we were conquered by foreigners. Why? Only because there was no unity. For this reason Bharat had to endure slavery and untold injustice at the hands of invaders. Students must cultivate unity. The reputation and future prosperity of the nation are hinged on the behaviour of students. Ensure that your conduct is prper. All the future leaders are among  today’s students. “Start early, drive slowly and reach safely”. Imprint the nation’s welfare as the primary goal in your heart, starting in your student days

Baba, we have got only sixty seconds. You have to be a quick.

Haste makes waste;
Waste makes worry;
So do not be in a hurry.

Q. Baba, It may sound  a bit embarrassing. About your miracles?

My miracles are my visiting cards to attract the devotees.

Q: Last question Baba. Who am I?

A:You are not one person, but three:
The one you think you are;
The one others think you are;
The one you really are.

(Imaginary Questions are mine; Answers are from Baba’s speeches)