BIG BANG AND BIG CRUNCH IN KAMBA RAMAYANA (Post No.5307)

Written by London swaminathan

Date: 10 August 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 9-28 AM (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5307

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Wikipedia, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks. Pictures may be subject to copyright laws.

 

WHAT IS KAMBA RAMAYANA

A great poet by name Kamban wrote the Ramayana in Tamil verses about 1000 years ago. Though he said that he followed Valmiki , he deviated in some places. But the main story remained intact unlike the South East Asian Ramayanas.

WHAT IS BIG BANG AND BIG CRUNCH?

15 billion years ago, there was an explosion and the universe expanded from a  hot, central core; what we see as stars, galaxies, solar system etc evolved from it in stages. The big crunch theory says that the continuously expanding universe will stop expanding at one point in time and collapse suddenly. It is like a blowing balloon suddenly explodes and collapses.

 

Hinduism is the only religion which says the age of universe is around 15 billion years; other religions place it a few thousand years back. In Hinduism, all the Sanskrit words and Tamil words for all heavenly bodies including universe is globular or circular or spherical.

Now to Kamban… He says in Yuddha kanda,

Seeing the condition of his brother Lakshmana, Rama sobbed. Then Devas said,

“O the Supreme! Like the spider

which can spin the finest thread

out of itself, and make a web

and can withdraw it all

You will never cease to make

and unmake these various worlds,

All lives, inside out

Which you will swallow and spit out”

 

–The Brahmastra chapter.

 

Here expanding universe and crunching universe is compared to the spider web. And it is explained more clearly in ‘swallowing and spitting out’, i.e. the big crunch and big bang. According to Hindus it is done again and again. But scientists have not reached to that level. Even big crunch is only in hypothesis.

 

If it is a passing remark in only one place one may even ignore it. But Kamban and other Hindu scriptures repeatedly say it (Please see the link given below to my articles dealing with the same theme).

In the earlier Aranya Kanda (canto, under the chapter on Sarabanga, this point is discussed; there Kamban talks about the Great Deluge. He says everything merges in to Him at the time and at another creation it changes into many. In short, Hindus looked at Time as cyclical and all the events also repeated.

Manikka vasagar, a great Saiva saint, who lived several hundred years before (around 6th century) Kamban described the universe in clearer terms:

“The development of the sphere of the elemental universe

Its immeasurable nature, and abundant phenomena

If one would tell their beauty in all kits particulars

As- when more than a hundred million in number spread,

The thronging atoms are sent in the ray that enters the house

So is He the great One, who exists in the minutest elements

If you would know him, Brahma and rest with Vishnu

His greatness, source, glory and end

Conjoined with His eternity, His extent, His abiding essence

 

……………..”

 

Here we can see the word used is ‘spherical’, ‘more than a hundred million’, ‘spreading/expanding’.

 

All these correlates with the words in Big Bang Theory. Manaikkavasagar used a simile which every Indian would easily understand; India is a tropical country with dust every where. When the sun ray enters the house through small holes in the roof of a hut or through the narrow window of a house one would see millions of dust particles floating. He rightly compared it to the expanding universe. One would see the dust particles floating and moving. They don’t stand still; That is what happening in the universe; everything is floating(galaxies and Stars) in the vast expanse of time and space. They are moving without stopping.

 

It is amazing to see such images in the Rig Vedic Nasadiya Sukta and other hymns.

 

How did they know all these things? Did they ravel back in time? Did they find it by intuition? Hindu scriptures talk about different periods of time at different levels for different people (like Brahma and Indra; they lose their posts after certain period and new ones come). We couldn’t even find such things in science fiction stories or novels until very recently.

 

Kamban mentioned the universe, various worlds etc in other cantos as well.

 

–subham–

 

HINDU CHILD PRODIGIES- NATURE OR NURTURE, HEREDITY OR ENVIRONMENT, GENETICS OR GOD? (Post.5231)

RESEARCH ARTICLE WRITTEN by London swaminathan

 

Date: 18 JULY 2018

Time uploaded in London – 6-51 am (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5231

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Wikipedia, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks. Pictures may be subject to copyright laws.

 

 

HINDU CHILD PRODIGIES- NATURE OR NURTURE, HEREDITY OR ENVIRONMENT, GENETICS OR GOD? (Post.5231)

 

We come across child prodigies around the world. Science could not explain the phenomenon satisfactorily.

 

Is it because the parents were brilliant and the children inherited it?

Is it because they are brought up in such an environment which made them geniuses?

inherited or Acquired?

Does Nature play a role or Nurture is the cause?

Heredity or Environment?

All these questions are debated very often and no explanation satisfies the inquisitive mind. Intelligent people are born even in remote villages where there is no formal education is available. Great people are born in illiterate families.

Adi Shanakara was a genius at the age of 16

Jnana Sambanda composed poems at the age of 3.

Bharati and Vivekananda attained fame by the age of 39!

 

Several Hindu geniuses became great when they were very young.

Hindu approach to this child prodigy is different. They belive whatever you have learnt in your previous births is deciding your intelligence at birth; Then you can continue improving it and go higher and higher. Lord Krishna made it very clear in the sixth chapter of Bhagavad Gita (BG. 43 t0 46)

 

Hindu scriptures Bhagavad Gita, Tamil Veda Tirukkural, Manu Smrti and Kalidasa’s Raghuvamsam are some of the books where we come across references to SEVEN BIRTHS and carrying and improving the knowledge from birth to birth.

Jnana Sambadar, The Wonder Boy of Tamil Nadu

 

Of all the books mentioned above, Tamil Poet’s Tamil Veda Tirukkural spoke about it in at least six places.

Let me quote them:

1.No evil will befall a man in all the seven births he may have if he begets children of irreproachable character- Kural 62

 

2.The noble minded will remember for all the seven births the friendship of those who saved them from affliction 107

 

3.If a man learns to control his five senses in one birth as the tortoise, that power will stand by him in his seven births- 126

4.The heritage of culture acquired in one birth lasts to the seventh – 398

5.Devote yourself to what the wise commend as worthy, else you will not find joy in all seven births – 538

6.A fool does so much sinful deeds in one birth that he suffers infernal  misery in all seven births- Kural 835

Tamil Saint Poet Tiruvalluvar

Manu says

If any one of these (Rig, Yajur, Sama Veda Scholars) fed and honoured at a ceremony for the dead, the hosts’ ancestors going back to seven generations will be perpetually satisfied- 3- 146 of Manu Smrti

 

This is another translation

3-146. If one of these three dines, duly honoured, at a funeral sacrifice, the ancestors of him who gives the feast, as far as the seventh person, will be satisfied for a very long time.

 

Seven generations may also mean several generations.

In one of the commentaries of Tirukkural seven different types of births are also mentioned: Devas, Human beings, Demons, Birds, Animals, Reptiles and Water creatures

All these show that there are seven births of a person or seven generations or seven different levels (from Devas to fish)

 

Kalidasa in his Raghuvamsam is clear like Tiruvalluvar: In chapter 1-20 he says,

“Dilipa’s actions were known only when their benefits are felt. it was kept like a secret like one knows the previous births by the results obtained in the current birth. The message is clear that one gets whatever one deserves depending upon the good things one has done in previous births 1-20.

 

In another sloka (18-50), Kalidasa says King Sudarsan did not need any help from the teacher as everything he learnt in his previous births came very handy. He remembered everything he learnt already.

Hindu saint/poet Tiruvalluvar from old book

This is echoed by Tamil Poet Valluvar when he said that what one learns in one birth will be helpful in seven births.

 

Lord Krishna, Manu, Kalidasa and Tiru Valluvar agree on one point: What you do in one birth will have its effect in seven births.

Lord Krishna in Bhagavad Gita says that one can even improve his learning in the next birth/s

“There he comes to be united with the knowledge acquired in his previous birth and strives more than before for perfection “– BG 6-43

 

This explains the amazing knowledge of child prodigies. Hindus believe that it is neither genetics nor environment that makes a person. Even if we consider these two are the factors, believers can still argue that is also given to one due to the Karma (action) in one’s previous birth.

–subham–

 

 

CLONING IN ANCIENT HINDU LITERATURE (Post No.5196)

Research Article Written by London swaminathan

 

Date: 8 JULY 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 15-49  (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5196

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Wikipedia, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks. Pictures may be subject to copyright laws.

 

What is cloning?

an organism or cell, or group of organisms or cells, produced asexually from one ancestor or stock, to which they are genetically identical.

 

That is, you create a replica of a human being without sexual intercourse. In my 2014 articles about Ten Medical Mysteries in Mahabharata, I have listed the ancient techniques of Test Tube babies, cloning etc. (see the link below for the full article).

Apart from the cloning references in the Mahabharata we have more references in Devi Bhagavata, Vishnu Purana and Manu Smriti:-

 

Cloning through Blood

Rakta Bhija (blood Seed)’s story is in Devi Mahaatmya. The demon Rakta Bheeja has a strange power. No one can kill him because when his blood is shed, another demon will emerge from each  drop of his blood. He fought with the Goddess Chaamunda. Each drop of his blood as it fell on the ground produced a new Asura (demon). But Chamundaa Devi found a new technique to stop it. She drank his blood in full and devoured his flesh. No more demons came out.

 

This story is a clear proof of blood cloning. If we place all stories of cloning together found in Hindu literature and study them we will know they are not fancy stories or science fiction.

 

Churning the Body of MEN to produce children!

Mahabharata gives innumerable stories of strange births, particularly men giving birth to babies. Till cloning techniques were reported in news papers, people couldn’t understand such stories and they were either baffled or they ridiculed such stories.

 

Here are two more from two different sources:

 

A legend in Vishnu Purana says that King Nimi requested Vaishtha to perform a fire sacrifice which would last for 1000 years. The sage pleaded a prior engagement to Indra for five hundred years, but offered to come at the end of that period. The king made no remark and remained silent and so Vaishistha rushed to the Royal court of Nimi as soon as he finished 500 year Yaga (fire sacrifice). He took silence as Yes. In the meantime, Nimi had finished the Yaga with the help of another sage called Gautama.

 

Enraged by this Vaisishtha cursed Nimi to become ‘Body less’ (Vi+Deha). This curse was given to him while Nimi was sleeping. When he woke up he became angry saying that a sleeping person cannot be cussed according to Hindu law and he cursed Vasistha back. Vaisistha perished as per the curse and came back in another body. But in Nimi’s case he died because of the curse. And then the sages CHURNED HIS BODY AND PRODUCED A SON CALLED MITHI. The city of Mithila, Sita’s birth place got the name from this legendary King Mithi.

 

Here churning the body is a technical term for cloning.

This is proved in another story

Story of Vena

Vena, son of Anga and a descendant of Manu Swambhuva issued a proclamation regarding Fire Sacrifices:

“Men must not sacrifice or give gifts or present oblations. Who else but myself is the enjoyer of sacrifices? I am forever the Lord of the Offerings”.

The sages remonstrated him respectfully, but in vain. They admonished him in stronger terms; but when nothing worked, they slew him with blades of consecrated grass. After his death the sages beheld clouds of dust and inquiry  found that they arose from the bands of men who had taken to plundering because the country was left without a king.  A King less (A+rajaka)country is severely criticised in the Hindu epics and mythologies.

 

As Vena was childless, the sages after consultation, RUBBED the thigh ( in Hari Vamsa, they rubbed his right arm) of the dead king to produce a son. From it there came forth a man like, a charred log, with flat face and extremely short. The sages told him to sit down (Nishida). He did so and thus became a Nishida, from whom sprang the Nishaadas dwelling in the Vindhya mountains., distinguished by their wicked deeds.

(Nishada= hunters, Forest dwsellers)

(This shows that their first experiment of CLONING went wrong and wicked people were produced ; something like Jurassic Park film)

The sages then RUBBED the right arm of the dead body of Vena and from it sprang the majestic Prithu, resplendent in body, glowing like the manifested Agni/ Fire God. The story of Vena is found in Mahabharata, Manu Smrti commentary, Padma Pura and Hari Vamsa.

Here RUBBING stands for CLONING.

Prithu gave the name Prithvi to earth.

 

The Puranas faithfully reported that the cloning went wrong in the first experiment. Puranas never lie.

 

The ancient sages used technical jargon like RUBBING or CHURNING the dead body for CLONING.

 

As the science develops new techniques or make new inventions we understand our mythology better.

 

For Ten More Mysteries from the Mahabharata , please read my old article:

 

 

cloning | Tamil and Vedas

tamilandvedas.com/tag/cloning

Posts about cloning written by Tamil and … Cloning ( as we saw in Rakthabheeja demon story), … //tamilandvedas.com/2014/03/26/medical-science-solves-ten-mysteries …

 

–Subham–

 

EMPEROR ASOKA’S FOUR TANKS OF MEDICINES AT FOUR GATES! (Post No.5134)

Written by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

 

Date: 21 JUNE 2018

 

Time uploaded in London –  7- 16 am  (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5134

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Wikipedia, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks. Pictures may be subject to copyright laws.

EMPEROR ASOKA’S FOUR TANKS OF MEDICINES AT FOUR GATES! (Post No.5134)

2300 Years ago, Emperor Asoka installed four tanks filled with medicines in four gates of the city (Pataliputra) according to Buddhgosa’s Samantapasadika.

Why?

 

A Buddha Bikshu died for want of medicines. Immediately Asoka took this drastic step. According to the rock edicts of Asoka, two kinds of medical treatments were available in his kingdom- 1.medical treatment of man and 2.medical treatment of animals.

In later Pali work Culavamsa (Chapter 73) we find Kittisirirajasiiha (Kirti Sri Raja Simha of Sri Lanka) appointed two physicians well versed in medicines and nurses for the bikshus. They were given yearly a big sum for the medicines from the Royal Treasury.

The king gave the best treatment for Upali when he was suffering from a disease in the nose.

Sri Lankan King ParakramabahuI had a big hall built for sick people and he gave to each sick person a special slave and a female slave to prepare medicines day and night, according to need, medicines and food, solid and liquid (Culavamsa, Chapter 76).

Treatment for Poison

Parakramabahu collected different types of medicines and preserved them in cow horns. This was to cure the wounds caused by the poisonous arrows. He also collected iron pincers for extracting arrow heads. He engaged many skilful physicians.

 

Snake Bites

To cure the snake bites, they used four materials: Cow dung, urine, ashes and clay. One physician used drugs made up of vegetables and cured a person even after the poison affected all limbs.

XXX

Hemp water was used as medicine (Mahavagga 6-14-3

To cure constipation, a decoction made up of ashes of burnt rice was administered.

For the wind troubles in stomach salt sour gruel or teka-kula was given which contains ginger and two kinds of pepper.

Following Eye ointments were mentioned in the Buddhist works:

Black Collyrium

Rasa ointment (made with vitriol_

Ointment made with antimony

Geruka (yellow ochre)

Kapalla (soot taken from a lamp)

In case of internal complaint, hot water with fruit juice was given.

 

Plague in RajagrAha

The Dhammapda commentary mentioned two diseases in bankers’ houses.

Bhaddavatiya , a banker got an intestinal disease. When this disease broke out, the first to die were the flies, then insects, then mice, domestic fowls, swine, cattle, slaves, both male and female, and last of all, the members of the household.
The banker with his wife and daughter fled away from the house. The same work also refers to the outbreak of plague in the house of the chief a banker of the Rajagraha with the result that many animals, slaves ,masters and mistresses of the household and the chief treasurer with his wife fell a victim to this disease.

A peculiar kind of disease known as Ahivataroga or snake- wind disease broke out in a Savaththian family.

 


Besides the diseases mentioned above, a list of diseases is also given:-
Sota Roga = Disease of hearing
Jihva Roga = Disease of tongue
Kaya Roga = Disease  of body
Mukha Roga = Disease of mouth
Dant Roga = Disease of teeth
Kaba =cough
Sasa =asthma
Pinasa= cold in the head
Daha = burning
Kucchi Roga = Disease abdominal trouble
Muchchaa = hysteria
Pakkhandika=  diarrhoea
Suula = acute pain
Visucikaa = cholera
Kilaasa Roga = a cutaneous Disease
Apasmaara = epilepsy
Daddu=  ringworm
vitachchikaa=  scabies
Madhu meha=  diabetes
Lohitapitta=  bile with blood
Bhagandala = fistula
Sannipaatikaa = union of humours
Utuparinaamajaaabaadhaa = change of season disease

In the medicine list we find the usual Ayurvedic ingredients.
Among the non vegetarian ingredients, fat of bear, fish alligator, swine and ass have been prescribed with oil.

It is interesting to note that pulverised ointments were put into pots and saucers.
Boxes were used for ointments.

 

Summarised from Dr Bimala Churn Law’s article, Calcutta, Year 1940

–SUBHAM–

 

 

 

NATURAL WONDER NEAR VILUPPURAM (Post no.4837)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

 

Date: 21 MARCH 2018

 

 

Time uploaded in London – 12-46

 

Post No. 4837

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources.

 

 

WARNING: PLEASE SHARE MY ARTICLES; BUT DON’T SHARE IT WITHOUT AUTHOR’S NAME AND THE BLOG NAME. BE HONEST; OTHERS WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

 

There is a natural wonder near Viluppuram. At 20 miles from Viluppuram, is Tiruvakkarai where there is a fossil wood park. Many people who visit the famous Vakrakali temple and the Siva temple do not know about the fossil wood or stone tree park. I would suggest the Geological Survey of India who maintain the park place sign posts near the temple.

 

Tiruvakkarai has hundreds of fossilised trees spreading over a vast area—247 acres. The entry is free. It has got trees 20 million years old. They were washed away millions of years ago and buried under the earth. They are now wood stones. The department has installed big boards in Tamil and English explaining it to laymen. They have done a very good job. A watchman is getting the signatures of visitors on a note book, which must be appreciated.

 

There is another fossil wood park near Perambalur.

Scientists have found out the types of trees. Following are the facts given on the board at Tiruvakkarai:-

Fossilwood of Mesembrixylon schmidianum (gymnosperms/non -flowering plants)

Peuce schmidiana (angiosperms/flowering plants)

 

How big the trees are?

30 metres long with a diameter of 1-5 metres

 

How did the trees become stones?

During the petrification period, the organic matter inside the tree is replaced with silica/sand

 

How did they know they were washed away from another area?

Absence of roots and branches indicate toward in this direction.

Who discovered it?

In 1781 an Europena recorded the occurrence of it.

What is the use of preserving it?

These trees tell the age of the earth and the flora and fauna of an area.

Trees’ annual rings are preserved even in the fossilised wood.

They are of Mio-pliocene Sedimentary Rocks.

In some parts of the world they even indicate the drought, volcanic eruptions happened millions of years ago.

 

 

–subham–

 

Genetics and other Sciences in Chanakya Niti (Post No.4818)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 15 MARCH 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 14-47

 

Post No. 4818

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks.

 

 

 

WARNING: PLEASE SHARE MY ARTICLES; BUT DON’T SHARE IT WITHOUT AUTHOR’S NAME AND THE BLOG NAME. BE HONEST; OTHERS WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

 

 

Chanakya, one of the greatest geniuses of India, lived 2300 years ago. He was a statesman and an economist. Though he was not a scientist he has composed slokas on various subjects including science. Here are some slokas/couplets:

GENETICS

While  a being is still in womb the following five are created for him—

Life span, action, wealth, knowledge and death.

Chanakya Niti 4-1

 

aayuh karma ca vittam ca vidhyaa niddhanameva

pancaitaani hi srujyante garbastarayaiva dehinah

 

This sloka points out that astrology is true. One year after the birth of a baby, the horoscope of that baby is cast in Hindu houses. The family astrologer used to write the education, job, money matters and the life span of that child. So, we know that this type of belief existed 2300 years ago!

 

Manikkavasagar, one of the four great Saivite Tamil saints, also describe the development of foetus in the womb. He lived 1500 years ago in Tamil Nadu.

GEMMOLOGY

Hindu knowledge about gem stones is found in all the Tamil and Sanskrit books. Here is what Chanakya says,

Ruby is not found in every mountain, pearl is not met with in every elephant, good people are not found everywhere, sandal wood is not found in every forest.

2-6

saile saile na maanikyam mauktikam na gaje gaje

saadhavo nahi sarvatra candanam na vane vane

 

The belief about gem stones is same in Sanskrit and Tamil books. They believed that in addition to oysters, pearl is ‘born’ in bamboos, elephants and scores of plants and animals!

 

Hindus knew that ruby, sapphire, diamonds are available in certain places only. They knew the fauna and flora of the country. Even Kalidasa, who lived 2000 years ago (see my research article on Kalidasa’s age), sings about the sandal wood available In Tamil Nadu. This sloka points out that beliefs were same even 2300 years ago in a vast land mass. So foreign rulers were not the people who united India.

PHILOSOPHY

Will the ladle know the taste of the food it serves?

A Tamil Siddha sang ,

Will the ladle know the taste of the curry it serves?

 

Chanakya also says the same!

People who go through the four Vedas and Darmasastras (Law books) time and again, still they do not know their own self like a ladle the taste of the cooked food.

patanti caturo vedaan dharmasaastraanyanekasah

aatmaanam naiva jaananti darvii paakarasam yathaa

15-12

 

It is amazing to see that for 2300 years the same simile is used by Tamils and Sanskrit scholars to illustrate the same point.

 

TIME

Time brings close to death, it destroys them. It keeps awake while others are asleep. It is difficult to overstep time

6-6

 

kaalah pacati bhutaani kaalah samharate prajaah

kaalah supteshu jaagarti kaalo hi duratikramah

 

–subham–

 

 

AYURVEDA EXHIBITION IN LONDON (Post No. 4696)

Date: 3 FEBRUARY 2018

 

Time uploaded in London- 7-05 am

 

Compiled by London swaminathan

 

Post No. 4696

 

PICTURES ARE TAKEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

 

WARNING: PLEASE SHARE MY ARTICLES; BUT DON’T SHARE IT WITHOUT AUTHOR’S NAME AND THE BLOG NAME. BE HONEST; OTHERS WILL BE HONEST

WITH YOU.

 

There is a very interesting exhibition in London Wellcome Centre about Ayurveda, the Indian medical system. This is a free exhibition held until 8 April 2018. It is next to the Euston Square underground. The title given to the Exhibition is ‘Ayurvedic Man—Encounters with Indian Medicine’.

What is in the Exhibition?

Valuable collection of Sanskrit manuscripts, pictures and displays of surgical instruments. There is a beautiful video show of Himalayan herbal wealth.

 

A leaflet about the exhibition explains the title as follows:

“The exhibition sheds light on Sir Henry Wellcome’s historical collections that relate to Ayurveda and Indian medicine and traces how health narratives have been shaped by multiple cultural encounters.

The exhibition takes its title and inspiration from the Ayurvedic Man – an 18th century Nepali painting depicting the organs and vessels of the male body according to classical Ayurveda. It showcases an executive range off material from our collections, including Sanskrit, Persian and Tibetan manuscripts, vibrant gouche paintings and erotic manuals.”

 

 

What is Wellcome Centre?

Ninteenth Century philanthropist Sir Henry Wellcome had enormous interest in medical knowledge around the world. He collected lot of medical antiquities. Now it has become a charitable organisation funding medical research in 70 countries. Their website wellcome.ac.uk has full details of their funding, research and library details.

Wellcome collections include rare Ayurveda, Unani books and microfilms of rare medical books around the world.

Now I will show some of the displays:

Sushruta was the Father of Surgery. He describes a lot of surgical instruments. On the basis of his description, model instruments were created. They are displayed in London exhibition. Sushruta describes rhinoplasty – fixing artificial nose. See the pictures below:-

 

  

The Wellcome Centre has another display by the side of the temporary Ayurveda Exhibition. Henry Wellcome’s profile is displayed there.

Henry Welcome was a man of many parts: entrepreneur, philanthropist, patron of science and pioneer of aerial photography. He also created one of  the world’s great  museums: a vast stockpile of evidence about our universal interest in health and the body.

Henry Solomon Wellcome (1853—1936) was born in a Protestant family in America. He came to Britain as an ambitious salesman and remained, initially to help establish Boroughs Wellcome and Co eventually to build a pharmaceutical empire. He also had a fascination for the past and collected lot of treasures with medical, historical and anthropological interests. Now they are housed in museums and libraries around the world. Here is his picture:

 

 

–Subham–

 

‘DIRGAYUTVA’ IN VEDAS; GREEK SCHOLAR ON LONG LIFE OF HINDU SEERS! (Post No.4465)

(Sri Ramanuja lived for 120 years)

‘DIRGAYUTVA’ IN VEDAS; GREEK SCHOLAR ON LONG LIFE OF HINDU SEERS! (Post No.4465)

 

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 6 DECEMBER 2017 

 

Time uploaded in London-  17-05

 

 

Post No. 4465

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources such as Facebook friends, Books, Google and newspapers; thanks.

 

 

The concept of long life is found in the Rig Veda; the wish for a life span of 100 years is seen in lot of places in the Vedic literature. This shows that the Vedic Hindus were very much health conscious. This shows also that they were highly civilised. Their target was a welfare society.

 

Every day the Brahmins do Sandhya vandana (water oblation) three times and in the noon ceremony, they recite a long Mantra looking at the son through Varuna Mudra; this Mudra (hand gesture) prevents damage to the eye. In the long Mantra they pray to Sun God to give them good eye sight, good hearing, good speaking skills and ever happy mood. They also pray for invincibility. Every sentence finish with the words ‘for 100 years/autumns’ (saradas satam)

(Kanchi Shankaracharya 1894-1994)

Pasyema saradas satam

Jivema saradas satam

Nandaama saradas satam

Modaama saradas satam

Bhavaama saradas satam

Srnvaama saradas satam

Prabravaama saradas satam

Ajeetaasyama saradas satam

 

Dirgayutva, longevity, is a constant object of the Vedic prayers. Atharva Veda has spells to prolong existence.

 

When Hindu youths salute the elders they always bless them with long life. They say ‘Dirgayusmaan Bhavaha’ (Live for long). When they bless them like this, they mean a full life of 100 years without any disease or difficulties.

 

Atharva Veda and Panchvimsa Brahmana use the word Dasami for the period of life between 90 and 100 year. Rig Veda called it Dasama Yuga (1-158-6) meaning the ‘tenth stage of life’.

Dirgatamas lived for 100 years (according to Sankhayana Aranyaka)

Mahidasa Aitareya lived for 116 years (says Chandogya Upanishad)

 

(Trailinga Swami of Varanasi lived for 280 years)

Greek Scholar Onesikritos

Onesikritos, who accompanied Alexander the Great, visited India and wrote that the Hindus lived sometimes unto 130 years. Buddhist Jataka Tales also say people wished a long life of 120 years. This was the condition of India 2300 years ago.

 

The Brahmanas regularly express the reward for ritual actions by the phrase ‘sarvam aayur iti’ meaning ‘he lives all his days’.

 

In our own times Kanchi Shakaracharya lived for100 years (1894 to 1994). Sri Gnanananda Swami of Tirukovilur in Tamil Nadu lived for 150 years. Trailinga Swami of Varanasi lived for 280 years (1607-1887). If we go by these records Hindus lived longer than anyone mentioned in the Guinness Book of Records.

 

Sri Ramanuja lived for 120 years and Vedanta Desika lived for 101 years.

Bharadwaja story also shows that one could live unto 400 years.

Manu in his Manavadharma Shastra says,

“In the Krta Yuga people were free from sickness and worries and the life span of man is 400 years. In the Treta yuga it was 300 years, in the Dwapara Yuga 200 years and in Kali Yuga 100 years” (Manu 1-83)

It adds that the seers can increase their age through penance.

(Sri Gnanananda Swamil lived for 150 years)

Tamil saivites believe that Tirumular lived for 3000 years (but not in human body)

 

What we infer from all the Vedic writings is that the Vedic Hindus were health conscious and they aimed to live for 100 years.

 

The story of Bharadvaja (from my old post)

There is a story in the Taittiriya Brahmana (3-10-11-3) about  Bharadvaja studding the Vedas

Bharadvaja lived through three lives in the state of a religious student (brahmachari). Indra approached him when he was lying old and decrepit and said to him,

“Bharadvaja, if I give you a fourth life how will you use it?”

Bharadvaja said, I will be a Brahmachari studying the Vedas”

Indra showed him three mountain like objects, as it were unknown. From each of them he took a handful, and, calling to him, Bharadvaja!

“these are the three Vedas. The Vedas are infinite. This is what you have studied in your three lives. Now there is another thing which you have not studied. Come and learn it. This is universal science. He who knows this conquers a world as great as he would gain by the triple Vedas.

 

–Subham —

STAR MYSTERIES IN THE RIG VEDA- PART 2 (Post No.4250)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 27 September 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 14-55

 

 

Post No. 4250

 

Pictures are taken from various sources such as google, Facebook friends, newspapers and Wikipedia for non-commercial use; thanks.

 

 

I posted the first part of this article yesterday.

 

Part 2

Atharva Veda added more names to the Nakshatra list.

Punarvasu is recommended by all authorities as suitable for ‘relaying of sacred fires (Punar aadheya); Kathaka Samhita allows Anuradha (star) also.

One Year

In the ceremony of Agnicayana (piling of the fire altar),the bricks are assumed to be equal in number to the Naksatrasa. The bricks number 756 and they are equated to 27 stars multiplied by 27 secondary stars (nakshatras), reckoned as 720 (instead of 729) with addition of 36 days, the length of intercalary month.

Taiitiriya, Maitrayani and Kathaka samhitas give a list of 28 stars.

 

Taittiriya Samhita divided the stars into two categories:

1.Deva naksatras 1-14 i.e. Krittika to  Visakhe

2.Yama Naksatras- 15-27 i.e. Anuradha to Apabharani (Abijit with No 20 is not included)

 

In Krittika group (Pleiades) the names of the seven stars in the constellation include : Abhrayantii, Meghayantii, Vajrayantii (all connected with rain and clouds)

.

Next to Rohini comes Mrgasiirsa  ( also called Invakaa) and Arudraa (moist), Punarvasu, Tishya (also known as Pushya), Aslesa, Maghas (also known as Anaghaa). They are followed by Phalguni (also Arjuni), Hasta, Citra, Svati (also known as Nistyaa), Visakhe, Anuradha, Rohini (Jyestagni or Jyesta—two stars have the name ROHINI),Vicratu (Mula), Ashadas (Uttara, Purva), Abhijit (in the Lyrae constellation), Srona (Sravana), Sravisthas (also Dhanista), Satabhisaj (having 100 physicians), Prosthapadas, Revati, Asva-yujau (Asvini), Apabharani (Bharani).

 

In the Brahmanas , Nakshatras are joined with the moon such as Tisya- Paurnamasa, Phalghuni paurnamasa etc

The Nakshatras and the Chronology

Sravana always marked the Summer Solstice.

Now we list the stars from Asvini, Bharani, krittika………….; but in Vedic days all the lists of the Naksatras (stars) begin with Kritika. The reason is vernal equinox coincided with it. It happened in 3000 BCE, according to Weber.

 

Jacobi’s argument

German scholar Herman Jacobi contended that in the Rig Veda (RV 7-103 frog hymn; 10-85 marriage hymn) , the commencement of the rains and the summer solstice mark the beginning of the new year and the new year began with summer solstice in Phalguni. He has also referred to the distinction of the two sets of Deva and Yama nakshatras in the Taittiriya Brahmana as supporting his view of the connexion of the sun and the nakshatras.

 

The Winter Solstice in Magha (Regulus)

William Jones calculated it happened in 1181 BCE, taking the starting point at 499 CE given by Varaha mihira; but Davis and Colebrook arrived at 1391 BCE.

Year Beginning in Phalghuni:

Since it is called the mouth of the year, Phalghuni was considered the beginning of the year. Jacobi calculated and said that it happened in 4000 BCE.

 

B G Tilak, on the other hand, holds that the winter solstice coincided with the Magha full moon at the time of the Taitiriya Samhita (2350BCE) and coincided with Phalguni and Caitri  in early periods – i.e. 4000 – 2500 BCE, and 6000-4000 BCE.

 

I am Margasirsha among the months: Krishna said in the Bhagavad Gita. Why?

 

Markazi (in Tamil) or Maargairsha was called Aagrahaayana (belonging to the beginning of the year. Spring commenced in Caitra). This means the Vedas older than these calculations.

 

Pole Star

Jacobi pointed out Dhruva means fixed star and this pole star could have happened only in third millennium BCE.

 

All these point out to a very old date for the Rig Veda. If Margasirsa was the first month (as we find in the Bhagavad Gita) it will give us an older date to the Vedas!

Source Book: Vedic Index by Keith and Macdonell

 

Tomorrow I will tell you about Yajur Veda’s statement “STARS ARE WOMEN!”

–Subham-

Comets: Shakespeare also believed Hindu Views (Post No.4218)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 16 September 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 18-48

 

Post No. 4218

 

Pictures are taken from various sources; thanks.

 

 

In Sangam Tamil literature and Hindu epic literature lot of references to comets (dhumaketu) are vailable.; all those references fear the evil effect of the comets. Ancient tamils used both Sanskrit word Dhumam (smoke) and the lieral translation of Dhema Ketu + Pukaik kodi in Purananuru.

Shakespeare also had the same belief about comets in his drama Julius Caesar, Calpurnia says

“When beggars die, there are no comets seen; the heavens themselves blaze forth the death of princes” Julius Caesar 2-2-30/31

 

Meaning:

Calpurnia, wife of Julius Caesar, begs her husband not to venture out on this morning, the ides of March. Caesar has spent a restless night and there is a wild storm raging. Calpurnia has had disturbing dreams, as well; crying out three times in her sleep, “They murder Caesar!” She begs him to stay home. Caesar sends word to the priests and they, too, return a warning that Caesar must stay home. Calpurnia is very upset , especially because of the strange events of the preceding evening: reports that a lioness was seen giving birth in the streets of Rome, the dead rising from their graves, warriors fighting in the clouds, reports of horses neighing and dying men groaning, ghosts shrieking. Comets were seen during the night, which Calpurnia interprets as a prophecy of the death of a prince.

 

Shakespeare had similar views about eclipse which is also in Tamil and Sanskrit books.

Tamil Belief

Meteor
Meteors: Kudalur Kizar (Puram 229) described the effect of a meteor he and his colleagues saw in the sky. They predicted that the Chera King Mantharan Ceral Irumporai would die in seven days time and it came true.

Comets: Like any ancient community Tamils were also afraid of the comets. They used the Sanskrit word ( Dhuma ketu) and Tamil word (Pukai Kodi) for it. Reference: Puram 117and 395 Also in post- Sangam Tamil epic Manimekalai 6-64, 7-74, Silappadikaram 10-102

 

Tamil Poet Bharati On Halley’s Comet
1.Like a palm tree set on a millet plant,
With a growing tail on a little star,
You blaze forth in kinship with eastern moon
Oh, lustrous comet! I bid you welcome

2.You range over countless crores of Yojanas
They say your endless tail wrought of gas
The softness of which is indeed peerless

  1. They say that yourtail touches the earth too
    An you fare forth with no harm to the poor;
    The wise talk of your myriad marvels.
    ( I have given only 3 stanzas from 7 stanzas of translation by Dr T N Ramachandran)

Varahamihira on Comets:

 

  1. Dhumaketu | Tamil and Vedas

tamilandvedas.com/tag/dhumaketu

Posts about Dhumaketu written by Tamil and Vedas. … is considered as Dhumaketu – a portentous comet … //tamilandvedas.com/2015/05/13/comets-in-brhat-samhita/

 

 

  1. ISON comet | Tamil and Vedas

tamilandvedas.com/tag/ison-comet

Posts about ISON comet written by Tamil and Vedas. … Dhumaketu in Sanskrit means Lord Ganesh and the … //tamilandvedas.com/2013/01/05/spectacular-comet-show-in …