FIVE STRENGTHS (Post No.6625)

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Bikshu Vrata – Observances of a mendicant

Asteya- Non stealing; Brahmachaya – Celibacy; Tyaaga – Sacrifice; Alobha- Non greediness; Ahimsaa- Non harming.

Asteyam brahmacharyam ca tyagoalobhastathaiva ca

Vratapi panca bikshunamaimsaparamani vai

–Markandeya Puranam

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Five nailed animals that can be eaten—

Sedhaa- Hedgehog; Godhaa- lizard variety; Kaccahpa- Turtle; Sallaka – Porcupine; Sasah- Hare

Bakshyah pancanakhah sedhagodhakaccapasallakah sasasca

–Valmiki Ramayana- Kishkinda Kanda- 17-37-8

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Result of Enema–Bastibalam-

Sariira upacaya- Physical development; Balam- strength; Varnam- complexion; Aarogyam- immunity; Aayuh – life span

Sariropacayam varnam balamarogyamayushah

Kurute parivruddhim ca bastih samyagupasitah

–Susruta smhita- 35-4

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Balam – Strength

Baahubalam- Strength of shoulder; Amaatyabalam- strength of minister; Dhanabalam- Strength of wealth; Abhijaatabalam- strength derived through birth; Prajnaabalam- strength of knowledge.

–Vidura Niti  5-52

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Pliithadosa—Disorders of the spleen

Vaata- air; Pitta- fire; Kapha- Water; Sannipaata – vitiation of the above three; Sonita- Blood

-Charaka Sutra- 19-4

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Five ‘M’s

Those who are involved in Vamachara worship (anti clockwise)use the  following ‘M’ s:-

Madya – liquor; Maamsa- Meat; Matsya – Fish; Mudraa- Gestures: Maithuna – Sex/ copulation

-Sabda kalpa druma 3-7

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Mahabharata Pandu in Britain too! (Post No.6168)

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Mysteries of Mahabharata | Tamil and Vedas



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Pythagoras propagated Hindu Ideals -Part 2 (Post No.6117)

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Pythagoras Part 2 is posted today; for part 1, please go to yesteraday’s post.

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CORRECTION-HIS WIFE WAS THEANO, NOT DAUGHTER

மரணமடைந்த பின் மீண்டவர்கள்-2(Post No.5875)

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பாக்யா வார இதழில் வாரந்தோறும் இடம் பெறும் அறிவியல் துளிகள் தொடரில் அத்தியாயம் 407

(எட்டாம் ஆண்டு நாற்பத்தி மூன்றாம் கட்டுரை)

மரணமடைந்த பின் மீண்டவர்கள் பற்றிய அறிவியல் ஆய்வுகள்! – 2

ச.நாகராஜன்

மரணமடைந்த பின்னர் மீண்டும் உயிருடன் திரும்பியோர் பற்றிய ஆய்வில் ஒரு குறிப்பிடத் தகுந்த அம்சம் என்னவெனில், அவர்கள் தாம் வாழ்ந்த கலாசாரத்திற்குத் தக்கபடி தங்கள் அனுபவங்களைக் கூறுகின்றனர் என்பது தான் அது.

அமெரிக்காவில் இப்படிப்பட்ட அனுபவங்களை விவரிப்போர், “பிரக்ஞை இன்றி, நான் இறந்தவுடன்  ஒரு இடத்திற்குச் சென்றேன். அங்கு வெண்ணிற ஆடை அணிந்த குழந்தைகளும் பெரியவர்களும் இருந்தனர். அவர்கள் எந்த இனத்தவர் என்று என்னால் கூற முடியவில்லை. ஆனால் அவர்கள் மிக்க மகிழ்ச்சியுடன் காணப்பட்டனர். என்னைக் கண்டவுடன் அவர்கள் பாடியதை நிறுத்தி விட்டு, ‘உங்களை நாங்கள் இங்கே எதிர்பார்க்கவில்லையே’ என்றனர். உடனே நான் வேகமாகத் திரும்பி விட்டேன்.” இது மோர்ஸ் (Morse-1992) தனது ஆய்வில் தரும் தகவல்.

பஸ்ரிசா மற்றும் ஸ்டீவன்ஸன் (Pasricha and Stevenson – 1986) மரணத்திலிருந்து மீண்ட 16 இந்தியர்களைச் சந்தித்தனர். அவர்கள் கூறுவது பெரும்பாலும் ஒரே மாதிரியாக இருந்தது. “நான்கு கறுப்பு நிறத் தூதர்கள் என்னை வந்து பிடித்துக் கொண்டனர். என்னை எங்கே கொண்டு போகிறீர்கள் என்று கேட்டேன். அவர்கள் என்னை ஒரு தேவதையிடம் அழைத்துச் சென்றனர். எனது உடல் மிகவும் சுருங்கி இருந்தது.அந்த தேவதைக்கு முன்னர் பெரிய புத்தகங்கள் இருந்தன.அவர் கையில் ஒரு பேனா இருந்தது. அவர் அருகில் பல உதவியாளர்கள் இருந்தனர். அந்த தேவதை, ‘சாஜூ பனியா(வணிகர்) நமக்குத் தேவையில்லை. நாம் கேட்டது சாஜு கும்ஹாரைத் தான் (குயவர்). இவரை அனுப்பி விடுங்கள். அந்த இன்னொருவரைக் கொண்டு வாருங்கள்’ என்றது.

       

நான் பூமிக்குத் திரும்பி வர விரும்பவில்லை. அந்த உதவியாளர்களிடம் ஏதேனும் ஒரு வேலை தருமாறு வேண்டினேன்.என்னைத் திருப்பி அனுப்பி விடாதீர்கள் என்றேன். உயர்ந்த ஆசனத்தில் வெள்ளை தாடியுடன் மஞ்சள் உடையுடன் அங்கே அமர்ந்திருந்த யமராஜர், ‘உனக்கு என்ன வேண்டும்’ என்று என்னைக் கேட்டார். நான் அங்கேயே தங்க வேண்டும் என்றேன். அவர் என் கையை நீட்டச் சொன்னார். பிறகு என்ன நடந்தது என்று தெரியவில்லை. நான் இருந்த இடத்திற்கு வந்து உயிர் பிழைத்து விட்டேன்”

இந்தியர்களின் அனுபவம் அமெரிக்கர்களின் அனுபவத்தை ஒத்ததாக உள்ளது. அதில் மதம் அதிகப் பங்கு வகிக்கிறது.

16 பேர்களை ஆய்வு செய்ததில் 13 இந்தியர்கள் இதே அனுபவத்தைக் கூறினர்.

தாய்லாந்தைச் சேர்ந்த ஒருவர் பற்றிய ஆய்வை மர்பி (2001இல்) நடத்தினார். அதில் அவர் யமராஜனைப் பார்த்ததாகவும் ஒரு பெரிய ஹாலுக்குள் அவர் யமதூதர்களால் அழைத்துச் செல்லப்பட்டதாகவும் கூறினார். ‘யமராஜன் என்னைப் பார்த்து இவர் தவறாக இங்கு கொண்டு வரப்பட்டிருக்கிறார் என்று சொல்லி திருப்பி அனுப்பும் படி சொல்லவே நான் மீண்டு வந்தேன்’ என்றார் அவர்!

க்ரிசென் (Greyson -1983) தனது ஆய்வில் இப்படி சாவிலிருந்து மீண்டவர்களில் பலர் சைக்கிக் எனப்படும் அமானுஷ்ய சக்தியைப் பெறுகின்றனர் என்கிறார். ஆவிகளைக் காண்பது, மனிதர்களைச் சுற்றியுள்ள அவுரா (Aura) எனப்படும் ஒளிவட்டத்தைக் காண்பது, ஆவிகளுடன் பேசுவது உள்ளிட்டவை இதில் அடங்கும்.

மோர்ஸ் (1992) தனது ஆய்வில் இப்படிப்பட்டவர்கள் மீண்டும் உயிருடன் வந்தவுடன் இவர்களில் பலருக்கு மின்சாரம் மற்றும் காந்த சக்தி ஆகியவற்றில் பல பிரச்சினைகள் ஏற்படுவதாகக் கூறுகிறார். அவர்கள் கையில் கட்டியிருக்கும் கடிகாரங்கள் வேலை செய்வதில்லை. மின் பல்புகள் உள்ளிட்ட மின் சாதனங்கள் பல அவர்களுக்கு வேலை செய்வதில்லை!

இப்படிப்பட்ட அனுபவங்கள் ஏற்படுவதற்கு அறிவியல் ரீதியிலான காரணங்கள் உண்டா என்பதையும் விஞ்ஞானிகள் ஆய்வுக்குள் கொண்டு வந்தனர். போதை மருந்துகள், வலிப்பு,ஆக்ஸிஜன் பற்றாக்குறை, புலன் உணர்வு குறைதல், தோற்ற மயக்கம் (hallucination) ஆகிய இவற்றால் அப்படி ஒரு அனுபவத்தை அவர்கள் பெறுகிறார்களோ என்ற விவாதமும் நடைபெறுகிறது.

ரிங் (1980) தனது ஆய்வில், ‘இறந்தவுடன் இறந்தவரின் பிரக்ஞை அடுத்த ஒரு மேலான மட்டத்திற்குச் செல்கிறது. இதை நான் நான்காவது பரிமாணம் என்கிறேன். இறந்தவர் தனது இன்னொரு ‘உயரிய நபரைப்’ பார்க்கிறார். அந்த இன்னொருவர் தான் அவருக்கு ‘ஒளி உருவமாகத்’ தெரிகிறார்” என்கிறார்.

     குக் (1998) எனும் விஞ்ஞானி தனது ஆய்வில் மனம் பற்றியும் இதில் ஆராய வேண்டும் என்கிறார். ‘இறந்தவரின் மனம் மட்டும் இன்னும் கொஞ்ச நேரம் இயங்குகிறதோ, அதனால் தான் அவரால் இப்படி ஒரு அனுபவத்தைச் சொல்கிறாரோ எனப் பார்க்க வேண்டும்’ என்பது அவரது முடிவு.

விஞ்ஞானிகளில் ஒரு பிரிவினர் பல நாடுகளிலும் உள்ள பலரும் இப்படிச் சொல்வது அதிசய ஒற்றுமை அல்லவா, ஆகவே இதில் உண்மை இருக்கிறது என்கின்றனர்.

இன்னும் சிலரோ போதுமான சான்றுகள் பெரிய எண்ணிக்கையில் கிடைக்கவில்லை; என்றாலும் கூட இது ஆராயப்பட வெண்டிய மர்மமான ஒரு விஷயம் தான் என்கின்றனர்.

இது பற்றி சுமார் 450 பெரிய புத்தகங்களையும் ஆய்வறிக்கைகளையும் விஞ்ஞானிகள் வெளியிட்டுள்ளனர் என்பதிலிருந்தே இது எவ்வளவு முக்கியமான விஷயம் என்பதைப் புலப்படுத்துகிறது.

ஆயிரக்கணக்கான கேஸ்கள்! பொய் சொல்ல வேண்டும் என்ற அவசியமே இல்லாத பலரும் இதைச் சொல்கின்றனர்.

ஆகவே மரணத்திற்குப் பின் மறுவாழ்வு உண்டா?

மரணமடைந்து மீளாதவர்களும் சொல்ல முடியாது; உயிரோடிருப்பவர்களும் சொல்ல முடியாது. மரணமடைந்து மீண்டவர்கள் மட்டுமே இதைச் சொல்லமுடியும்.

நம்புவதும் நம்பாததும் அவரவர் இஷ்டம் என்பது தான் இன்றைய அறிவியல் நிலை!

அறிவியல் அறிஞர் வாழ்வில் .. ..

பிரபலமான இந்திய விஞ்ஞானிகளில் ஒருவரான சர் ஜகதீஷ் சந்திர போஸ் (பிறப்பு 30-11-1858 மறைவு 23-11-1937) பல அரிய கண்டுபிடிப்புகளைக் கண்டு பிடித்தவர். அவரது அபாரமான கண்டுபிடிப்புகள் லேசில் அங்கீகரிக்கப்படவில்லை. அவர் தனது ஆய்வுக் கட்டுரையை இங்கிலாந்தில் உள்ள ராயல் இன்ஸ்டிடியூட்டுக்கு அனுப்பிய போது அது நிராகரிக்கப்பட்டது.

பின்னால் அவர் இங்கிலாந்து சென்று தனக்கென ஒரு சிறிய லாபரட்டரியை அமைத்த போது ராயல் சொஸைடியின் உறுப்பினர் ஒருவர் அங்கு வந்து அதைப் பார்த்தார். போஸின் ஆராய்ச்சியைக் கண்டு வியந்து போன அவர் போஸிடம்,


“ உங்களது கட்டுரை ஒரு வோட்டால் நிராகரிக்கப்பட்டது. அந்த ஒரு வோட்டைப் போட்டவன் நான் தான்” என்று மிக வருத்தப்பட்டுக் கூறினார்.

தாவரத்திற்கும் வலி தெரியும் என்று போஸ் கூறியதில் பல விஞ்ஞானிகளுக்கு நம்பிக்கையே இல்லை. ஆகவே இதை சவாலாக எடுத்துக் கொண்டு 1901ஆம் ஆண்டு மே பத்தாம் தேதி ராயல் சொஸைடியின் பிரதான ஹாலில் தன் சோதனையை அவர் நிகழ்த்திக் காட்டினார். ஹால் முழுவதும் விஞ்ஞானிகளின் கூட்டம் நிரம்பி வழிந்தது.

போஸ் மிகுந்த கவனத்துடன் ஒரு செடியின் வேர் பாகத்தை அதன் தண்டுடன் சேர்த்து, தான் தயாரித்து வைத்திருந்த ப்ரோமைட் கரைசலில் அமிழ்த்தினார். உடன் என்ன நிகழ்கிறது என்பதைக் காட்டும் திரையில் அதன் அசைவுகளை அனைவரும் பார்க்க ஆரம்பித்தனர். கரைசலில் அமிழ்த்தப்பட்ட செடியின் பாகம் பெண்டுலம் போல அங்கும் இங்கும் அசைந்து ஆட ஆரம்பித்தது. சில நிமிடங்களிலேயே அது வேகமாகத் துடிக்க ஆரம்பித்தது. பின்னர் உயிர்த்துடிப்பு நின்றது போல நின்றது. விஷம் கொடுக்கப்பட்ட எலி எப்படித் துடிதுடித்துச் சாகுமோ அது போல அந்த நிகழ்வும் இருந்ததை அனைத்து விஞ்ஞானிகளும் பார்த்துப் பிரமித்தனர். அவர்களின் கரகோஷம் ஹாலையே பிளந்தது.

ப்ரோமைட் விஷத்தின் பாதிப்பால் செடி துடிதுடித்து இறந்ததை உலகம் அறிந்த போது தான் போஸின் அறிவியல் ஆய்வின் திறன் தெரிய வந்தது. 1917இல் அவருக்கு க்னைட் பட்டம் தரப்பட்டது. 1920இல் அவர் ராயல் சொஸைடியின் ஃபெலோ என்ற அந்தஸ்தைப் பெற்றார்.

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EYE TWITCHING and ITCHING- GOOD OR BAD? (Post No.5533)

Research Article Written by London Swaminathan
swami_48@yahoo.com
Date: 12 October 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 20-31 (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5533

 

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources including google, Wikipedia, Facebook friends and newspapers. This is a non- commercial blog.

 

SHAKEPEARE,KALIDASA AND TAMIL POETS DIFFER FROM DOCTORS

Eye twitching is common according to doctors. They call it myokymia. When we say eye twitching, we mean eyelid twitching. Most eye twitches come and go, but some can last for weeks or months. They are harmless. If it lasts for months then it may be due to some nerve problem. The causes for the twitching may be fatigue, lack of sleep, eye strain, caffeine, alcohol, allergies, nutrition problems according to medical encyclopedia. But Shakespeare , 2000 year old Tamil poets and Kalidasa differ with the modern biologists.

 

In Hindu scriptures, the left eye twitching for women is good and right eye twitching for men is good.  Some may differ in it. But all agree that twitching eye means something good or bad. Science don’t agree with them.

In china left eye twitching is a lucky sign of getting wealth. in India, right eye twitching is good (if you are men).

In African countries, it differs from country to country.

 

In Western countries, the talk about itching eyes and not twitching eyes.

Theocritus (275 BCE) says

My right eye itches now, and shall I see my love? (Idylls III)

Shakespeare (1604) says,

Mine eyes do itch; doth that bode weeping? (Othello IV)

(Is that an omen I will be crying soon?)

 

N.Homes (1650)

If their right eye itcheth, it betokens sorrowful weeping;

if the left eye itcheth, …… joyful laughter. (Daemonologie)

 

Jonathan Swift (1738)

My right eye itches; I shall cry (political Conversation III)

 

The book on Superstitions published in 1780 also confirms,

Itching right eye is a bad omen. It will make people cry, weep etc.

 

Twitching in oriental literature is replaced with Itching in Western literature.

Now Let us look at the World famous Indian poet Kalidasa (First Century BCE)

Meghadutam verse 94

the doe eyed lady’s left eye

would throb at your coming, I guess

and match the charm of blue lotuses

quivering as fishes dart among them.

Kalidasa means that the left eye twitching for women is good.

In his world famous drama Sakuntalam Kalidasa says,

Sakuntala (feeling a bad omen)

O You Gods! What means this throbbing of my right eye?

 

In Raghuvamsa Kavya (14-49) Sita’s right eyes are throbbing and the she gets scared. She knew that something bad is going to happen.

 

In Other places Kalidasa shows that the throbbing or twitching of right shoulder or right eye is good for men (Raghu vamsa  6-68, 12-90 and Vikrama Urvasiya III-9)

 

We see such things in Valmiki Ramayana, Kamba Ramayana (Tamil) and several other Sanskrit books.

Sangam Tamil Literature

Since more than 200 similes of Kalidasa were used by Sangam Tamil pets I have providing my umpteen articles in this blog that Kalidasa lived before Sangam age; may be in first century or 2nd century BCE. Kapilar, the Brahmin poets used more similes than any one else.

 

Here in Kurinji section (Ainkurunuru) he used the twitching or throbbing of eye: In verse 218 the servant maid says that her eyes are throbbing which is a good sign. But the commentators say that her left eye throbbed which is a good sign.

 

So the Tamils and people in North India believed that left eye throbbing is good for women; right eye throbbing is bad.

 

Kapilar was one of the oldest poets of Sangam period.  Whatever he used was used again by other poets.

In the Kalitokai, which forms the last group of books, two poets use this eye twitching.

Palai Padiya Perum Kadunko (10), Chozan Nalluruthiran(106) used the same image. Left eye throbbing would  bring good message.

 

This is one more proof to establish the age of Kalidasa. This is another proof for unity in Indian culture from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. There is one culture in India with minor regional differences in food, clothing, manners and customs.

 

SCIENCE AND RELIGION

FOLLOWING EXCERPT IS FROM SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (SEE MY COMMENTS BELOW)

Men aren’t from Mars and women aren’t from Venus, but their brains really are wired differently, a new study suggests.

The research, which involved imaging the brains of nearly 1,000 adolescents, found that male brains had more connections within hemispheres, whereas female brains were more connected between hemispheres. The results, which apply to the population as a whole and not individuals, suggest that male brains may be optimized for motor skills, and female brains may be optimized for combining analytical and intuitive thinking.

“On average, men connect front to back [parts of the brain] more strongly than women,” whereas “women have stronger connections left to right,” said study leader Ragini Verma, an associate professor of radiology at the University of Pennsylvania medical school. But Verma cautioned against making sweeping generalizations about men and women based on the results.

 

 

MY COMMENTS

Sanskrit and Tamil literature have a point. They knew by intuition or through scientific study that men are egoistic and more aggressive. We see it how they react in the battle field (see the remarks that their right-side body parts are throbbing or reacting in men). 2000 year old Tamil books repeat umpteen times that the tiger won’t eat its prey if it falls on its left side- so egoistic.

We know now that the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body. The left side stands for conscious actions, positive actions and calculations. The right side brain stands for music, arts, negative emotions and intuitions.

 

We must do deeper studies in this area and then only should come to conclusions. But a preliminary study shows that their reporting of reaction in the eyes or body parts has a scientific basis.

 

–subham-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HOW DID ANCIENT HINDUS FIND SUBMARINE MOUNTAINS? (Post No.5491)

Written by London Swaminathan
swami_48@yahoo.com
Date: 30 September 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 8-12 am (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5491

 

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources including google, Wikipedia, Facebook friends and newspapers. This is a non- commercial blog.

 

 

HOW DID ANCIENT HINDUS FIND SUBMARINE MOUNTAINS?

 

Two amazing discoveries of ancient Hindus show that they were the first travellers to America and other islands. Throughout Hindu literature we come across two Sanskrit words : Badavagni or Vadavagni (in Tamil Vada Mukha Agni) and the Chakravala Giri.

 

Badavagni is described as the sub marine fire in the shape of a horse. It sucks all the river waters that poured down into the oceans and so the oceans are within their bounds. Modern science show that there are under water volcanoes which are ever active. We find such ever burning, never stopping volcanoes in Hawaii (Pacific ocean) and other places. If Hindus were not ancient travellers, they would not have found them.

 

The second reference to Chakravala Giri, roughly translated, Circular Mountain chain, is also amazing. Hindu scriptures such as Valmiki Ramayana and Puranas very often mention it. This circular mountain is very new to western oceanographers. Only when they invented scubas and submarines they saw it and reported it. But Hindu scriptures in Sanskrit are talking about it for thousands of years. Unless they are adventurous and itinerant travellers, they would not have found them. Since these things are used as common place similes, even a layman has got some information about it.

 

Some books describe it a mountain chain encircling the earth which has ‘light inside but darkness outsid’e. We such things in the ocean in the form of volcanoes. So they are underwater structures.

What is the information available in science books?

 

Oceanographers have mapped more than 10,000 seamounts. Seamounts are mountains under the ocean. They are more in Pacific Ocean. In some places, they grow over the surface and form islands. They are found in Pacific, Indian and Atlantic oceans. Unless ancient Hindus travelled to all these oceans they couldn’t have talked about circular mountains—Chakra vala – around the oceans.

 

I quote below a few verses from 1000 year old Kamba Ramayana and 1200 year old Pazamozi in Tamil. They use the Sanskrit words and so they are taken from earlier Sanskrit books:-

 

 

It swallowed wholesale elephants, chariots, horses and all;

Then drank up the seven seas with their fish;

Then swallowed the clouds with their thunder,

Dharma herself, O wonder! was frightened

That is the wrath might not spare even her!

 

Some it dashed against Chakravala;

Some it rubbed against the outer wall;

Some it flung over the seven hills and killed;

some it disposed of with huge hands

in the darkness encircling eight directions

 

–Chapter “The slaying of Hiranyakasipu’, Yuddha Kanda of Kamba Ramayana

 

In the Aranya Kanda, Kamban compared the gigantic hands of demon Kabandha, that surrounded Rama and Lakshmana to Chakravala that encircles the earth and the oceans.

In Pazamoli, a post Sangam didactic work with 400 Tamil proverbs the poet says,

 

Even the Chakravala, the mountains encircling the earth, may be eroded; but the harsh words told by one would never disappear (forgotten); so one must never do acts that which spoils one.

Passing remarks like these throughout Tamil and Sanskrit literature point out to the mid ocean ridges.

 

Mid ocean ridges are the underwater mountain chain. They join and form the longest mountain chain on earth extending to 44,000 miles. All these things came to light in the past 100 years or so. But Hindus wrote about such a system and they used it as a common place simile. Every ancient literate Hindu knew about it.

 

Monier Williams Sanskrit dictionary gives the following meaning to Chakravala:

 

A mythical range of mountains encircling the orb of the earth and being the limit of light and darkness.

 

Now we know it is not mythical, but real.

 

Chakravalam is found in the Sanskrit thesaurus Amarakosa. Kalidasa in Raghuvamsa (13-7) says that oceans gave refuge to the mountains when Indra cut down he wings of the flying mountains. This is another reference to geological science. Millions of years ago big meteorites were falling on earth and then stopped. This is attributed to Indra in the scriptures. Even today millions of meteorites fall into earth but most of them are burnt in the atmosphere. Very rarely we see such ‘flying mountains’; one such big meteorite destroyed the Dinosaurs on earth six million years ago.

 

A lot of science materials come to light as and when science discovers something new. I have already written elsewhere about the future predictions of Hindus. We are not boasting after something new is discovered. I have written about what is going to be discovered.

 

My Tamil article on the same subject

 

  1. சக்ரவாள | Tamil and Vedas

tamilandvedas.com/tag/சக்ரவாள

கடலுக்கடியில் சக்ரவாள மலை: … – பெரிய சக்கரவாள மலை சூழ்ந்த …

 

–subham-

MY VISIT TO LONDON SCIENCE EXHIBITION! (Post No.5457)

Written by London Swaminathan

swami_48@yahoo.com

Date: 22  September 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 9-49 am (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5457

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources including google, Wikipedia, Facebook friends and newspapers. This is a non- commercial blog.

 

 

NEW SCIENTIST magazine has organised a Science Exhibition in London Excel center for four days from september 20, 2018. I visited the exhibition on second day. There was a big and enthusiastic crowd mostly students with their teachers or parents.

Over 100 stalls were there from University departments, government departments, book publishers and private business selling from meteorites to robotic toys. Some of the talks were well attended.

As soon as I entered the site I saw the big stall by European Space Agency. They displayed the models of their future space probes.

What surprised me was a person buying two meteorites for 140 pounds. Such stones from space are available in plenty in India but without any scientific details. Meteorite business is a big business here. The stones that fell from the sky are scientifically analysed, recorded and documented. From tiny samples to big stones are displayed in two or three stalls. Two authors were selling their science books personally signing the copies. Freebies such as brain caps were given to school students in some stalls.

 

140 speakers are lined up for four day talks.

 

All of us emit radiation to some extent. Even bananas emit radiation. But all of us know the radiation from nuclear materials are harmful. Even smoke alarms at homes have radiation. A stall explained all these things and allowed us to measure the radiation from different objects. It was interesting and educating.

 

Geology stall explained all about earth quakes and the man warned me that India is due for a big earth quake (not political!) in the Himalayan range, so do California. But no one could predict or forecast when it is going to happen. Ganges, Sarasvati and other rivers changed their course during such past big earth quakes.

 

Most interesting was a robot which laughs when you tickle it in its head or cheeks.

 

Harvard Univesity Press displayed their latest science books. New Scientist is selling their books and magazine at a discounted price. I have taken some pictures which would explain more than words.

 

EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY FUTURE PROBES

 

 

BOOK AND THE AUTHOR

 

RADIATION MONITORING

 

EARTHQUAKE BELT

 

 

 

 

 

TICKLE ME ROBOT

 

–SUBHAM–

Mantra and Medical Prescription (Post No.5439)

Written by London Swaminathan

swami_48@yahoo.com

Date: 17  September 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 8-59 am (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5439

Pictures shown here are taken from various sources including google, Wikipedia, Facebook friends and newspapers. This is a non- commercial blog.

 

A doctor met a saint and asked whether he could learn Mantras from the websites or You Tube.

The saint said ‘No’.

Next, the doctor asked whether anyone one could recite a Mantra .

The saint said ‘No’.

Expecting at least one ‘Yes’ answer from the saint he quizzed him more.

“Can anyone teach Mantra to another person?”

The saint patiently, but firmly said ‘No’.

“Okay, suppose I put saffron cloth on me tomorrow, can I do all the above things?”

The saint smilingly said a big ‘No’ and then interrupted him, when he was about to ask more questions.

The saint said, “please wait, I wanted to ask you a few questions. Please answer them truthfully”.
Doctor was very happy when he heard it.
“At last the saint has recognised me”, he thought.

“Ok now it is my turn,” the saint started bombarding him with some questions

“Can I give a medical prescription, I mean allopathic medicines, by looking at websites?:

Doctor was surprised to get such a stupid question from a leaned Saint .

Doctor said,
“Oh Swamiji, Dont you know that it is against law and moreover dangerous?”

“Hang on, I am ready to learn from social media and websites.

Can I treat my disciples with allopathic medicines?”

“Oh, Swamiji, unless a medically qualified person prescribes it, you can’t treat any one with the medicines that you get from any Tom Dick and Harry”
‘Why?’ asked the saint.

“Each patient is different.
You have to know his/her case history, ethnicity
age, weight, height, sex, his/her other medications
Whether s/he is allergic to any substance etc

 

“Ok, ok. Now I understand. If I put on a white coat and a stethoscope around my neck and behave like a doctor, can I do all the above things?”

“Swamiji!  I am shocked to hear such things from you.

How is it possible ? Certain medicines have very serious side effects which may result in serious consequences. Every medicine bottle or carton have a long list of side effects. Don’t you know all these things? People may even abuse certain things”.

“You need to study for at least five years and practise as a house surgeon for a while and then practise under the supervision of experienced seniors. It is like a lawyer practising like a junior in a legal office”.

Swamiji felt very happy when he heard that. “It is good that you said all the things necessary to become a good doctor”.

“That is exactly an ascetic also does. After several years of penance and learning scriptures, he goes to a senior Guru, who watches him for several years and then teaches certain Mantras . He
also looks at various things before doing that . Like you take into account the ethnicity, age, sex, height, weight, previous medications, allergy factors, family history of certain illnesses, we also look at various factors before teaching Mantras. Like you don’t like people practising medicine via website and social media knowledge we also don’t like people learning secret Mantras from websites.”

Like certain medicines are available over the counter without prescription for headaches, cough, cold etc. we also have simple hymns and Bhajan songs which you can learn from any one”.

“Earlier you beautifully explained the side effects and abuse of medications. Mantras also have side effects if they are wrongly used or mispronounced. If someone like Ravana or Pasmasura gets it  may be abused”

“In short, a saint’s work is similar to the work of a doctor”.

 

The doctor was convinced with his answer and made a big salute to hime and let with ‘prasad’.

-Subham-

HINDUS’ NEW METHODS OF FORTUNE TELLING! (Post No.5384)

WRITTEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

 

swami_48@yahoo.com

Date: 1 September 2018

 

Time uploaded in London – 20-23 (British Summer Time)

 

Post No. 5384

 

 

HINDU SCIENCE: DO YOU WANT TO BE A SOOTHSAYER OR A FORTUNE TELLER?

 

Let us look at two new Hindu methods of sooth saying today; very easy to follow. You can master it very quickly!

 

Hindus have several methods of predicting one’s future. I have already given details about rope trick astrology, lizard predictions, black bird predictions, parrot astrology, sea shell (Prasnam) astrology, face reading, palmistry, amazing Nadi Jothidam (palm leaf reading), Sneezing predictions, Five Bird (Pancha Pakshi Shastra) Astrology and horoscope reading. Probably Hindus are the only race that has so many prediction methods. In addition to these approved methods there are some voodoo methods as well. Instead of crystal gazing they will look at a betel leaf tarred with special black ink! We can call it Betel Leaf Gazing!

 

if you hear one sneeze it is bad; if any one sneezes twice it is a positive sign. And then there are predictions on the basis of Fox crossing your way, crow flying above, cat crossing your way, white necked eagle (Garuda) flying above etc.

 

Now I want to tell you something I Have read yesterday in the British Library in London. It is a Tamil book published in 1901. We had a book in our house in Madurai titled ‘Swarodaya Vinjanam’. Unfortunately, I lost it. Now I have got a very brief description of what was in the lost book.

How to predict:

Hindus believe that our breathing alternates in the two nostrils. If you closely watch your breathing, the breathing is done through one nostril for some time and then it changes to another nostril. Sometimes the air goes in and comes out using both the nostrils.

 

Hindu scriptures say breathing starts with right nostril at 6 am in the morning and then it changes to left at 8 am. it alternates like this every two hours. If someone comes to you and asks some advice, you check your breathing. If it is done through your right nostril and the person who asked your advice also stands on the same side, you say, ‘YES, YOU WILL WIN’, ‘YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL’, ‘DO IT’, ‘GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PLAN’ etc.

Possible questions:

Can I buy a new car now? new house now?

Can I go abroad?  send an application now?

Can I get a promotion in my job?

Can I win the election?

Can I get married now?

Will I get my lost property?

Can I win the court case? etc

 

When your breathing is done by left nostril and the person stands on the left side, then you say Yes.

 

But if the person stands on the opposite side to your breathing nostril; you tell the person not to do it. If the breathing is done by both nostrils also, it is NOT a positive answer. The Right nostril is called Sun Part (Pingalai) and the left side is called Moon Part (Ida Kalai in Tamil). The central part (both nostrils) is called Sushumna or Suzu Munai in Tamil.

One more rule is there! The person should be standing or sitting below your level. You should be in a raised seat or higher level.

 

This looks very strange. Someone has to prove it scientifically or disprove it. But all Hindus have certain basic rules for practising astrology or any science. You must be selfless and follow purity in ‘word, deed and thought’. It is called Tri Karana Suddhi (Three Dimensional Purity). If someone practises a Hindu science whether it is medicine or astrology without that purity, the very same science will bring the person down. Every day we read in newspapers that this ascetic was arrested that ascetic was jailed. This is because the moment you get some extraordinary powers the angels in charge of them will send you temptations. You will naturally become greedy or wish something bad i.e. abuse of women or abuse of power or becoming greedy. That is the end of you!

 

These prediction methods are in our books for very long. Nothing new. I repeat what I have read yesterday in the British Library.

Shadow Science Mystery

This is the second method; it will sound like some science fiction story!

It is called Chaya Darsan Prediction (Shadow Watching/seeing)

When the sky is clear and the sun is shining bright and when you can see a long shadow of you i.e. five to ten feet long, you look at it facing the same direction of your shadow. If you watch it for ten or 15 minutes from head to foot (of your shadow) and look up in the sky you will see your figure in the sky. If it is of golden colour, you will get lot of money or property. If your figure in the sky is of white colour, then you will be healthy and have a long life. If you see it in red colour, something bad will happen and if it is in black colour it is very bad for your health or life. If nay part of the body is missing in the figure, it is a life threatening sign. Some people look at moon and follow the same predictions.

 

If someone practises this art for 12 years, the shadow will communicate with you. It will speak to you and come with you. Once it starts talking to you,  you will get the Ashta Ma siddhi (Eight Paranormal Powers). The shadow will sit with you, walk with you and lie down with you. It will warn you any dangers that may come to you. And you can do miracles.

 

This looks like a fairy tale story. But one has to practise it. Looking at moon on certain days in a month is part of Hindu religious ceremony. If one sees 1000 crescent moons in one’s life, a big celebration is organised for that person. Probably this is also part of that Chaya Darsan.

Sometime ago I wrote that NASA scientists of USA must do some research about Hindu Nadi Jothidam. Though most of the Nadi Jyoshya astrologers are frauds nowadays, there is a big science in it. By looking at one’s hand they can tell your birth day and name. So we need some scientific research on such strange astrological methods. I wish I get some funding for such research!

 

–subham–