DATE OF RIG VEDA THROUGH SOLAR ECLIPSE-3000 BCE (Post No.4470)

Compiled by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 8 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4470

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SRI UMAPADA SEN OF CALCUTTA HAS ESTABLISHED THE DATE OF RIG VEDA AROUND 3000 BCE IN HIS BOOK THE RIGVEDIC ERA. HE SUPPORTS THE VIEW OF A. LUDWIG WHO ALSO APPRECIATED THE VEDIC HINDUS’ AMAZING KNOLEDGE ABOUT HEAVENLY BODIES.

 

Here is a summary of Umapada Sen’s article (part of his book):

Solar eclipses narrated in the Veda cannot be overlooked. In passage 10-138-4 of the Rig Veda, it is said Indra ‘maseva suryo vasu puryam adade’. this means it was the sun that was eclipsed, for the words ‘ vi suryo Madhya amuchat rathevam divah’ in the preceding verse point clearly to a solar eclipse.

Ludwig’s observation about the attitude of some persons always ready to defame the Veda and the Vedic Indians is worth noticing. He says, “such narrations in other texts ( he quotes other texts) do not appear doubtful, but such expressions when found in the Rig Veda are quite doubtful and many critics regard it as extremely doubtful. There should be no doubt any further, by all events it is not lunar but solar eclipse”.

“Compare RV 4-28-2. There Indra is said to have eclipsed the sun (somena, induna, by the moon). Prof. Willibrandt in his book on Vedic mythology has elaborately and extensively demonstrated that there is never any reason for disbelieving that Soma was Chandramas/Moon.

 

“The eclipse of ‘svarvanu’ has no relation with the clouds. Svarvanu, etymologically taken designates him whose light is the sun or sun’s. This is no other than the moon. We can accurately frame the translation of RV 5-40-6 …….”

 

In the mantra it is said that “Thou, Oh Indra, hadst hurled down by means f svarvanu’s witcheries spreading down from heaven, Atri by means of the fourth brahma has found out the hidden sun”.

 

Atri had to utter four Rik verses and by that time the eclipse subsided. This was the time taken by total solar eclipse!

 

The ‘Svarvanu after 3000 years turned out to be Rahu in the Vishnu Purana after it had lost the etymological meaning. (For the laymen, they gave a story of snake devouring moon or sun and in course of the time the original  view forgotten)

Ludwig further gives a detailed account of Hindu tradition and praises the accuracy of observations.

 

Attempts for determining the date of the Rig Veda through astronomy by Ludwig, Jacobi and B G Tilak amply proved their intimate acquaintance with the Vedic literature.

 

Antares (star Jyeshta or Kettai in Tamil) or Indra was called Jyeshtagni meaning one who commences the New Year (must be sidereal in this case).

Ludwig says, “Vedic priests were aware of moon’s borrowing light from the sun. That the ancient Hindus had a correct notion of the orbits of sun and moon, that their ability to account for the phenomenon of eclipses is absolutely out of doubt and the part assigned to Indra is interesting in a double point of view, and be it noted here that ADRI in the Veda often stands for a node that hurts the weaker Soma (moon) when he passes it, and not always for a stone to pierce Soma plants.”

Ludwig’s vivid narrations of the solar eclipses, wherein times without number he mentions of Indra’s peculiar function, must be carefully noted. Vedic narrations invariably connect Indra with the eclipses. In RV 10-138-4, Indra forces sun to unyoke the horses. It simply means sun was forced to lose his rays when it was just over or near Antares (star). The entire hymn 5-40 describes the eclipse in greater details. It, therefore, appears that two solar eclipses, of which one was definitely total, took place during the Vedic period on dates very near autumnal equinoxes that were visible from Indian latitude 28-32 N and longitude 68-74 E of Greenwich, so as to give an impression to the onlookers that Indra was competent to cause solar eclipses. (Indra= star Antares)

 

Umapada Sen believes the word Suhanta for thunder in 7-30-2 was a comet. He says that the 27 stars, five planets, sun and moon were the Rig Vedic Devas.

Antares and Sun

The scanning of the Rig Vedic revelations does reveal to us that Indra (star Antares) was privileged to enjoy the close company of the sun and as such the date when the particular star Antares was enjoying autumnal equinoxes bears the all-important connection with the Rig Vedic period.

When Umapada sen approached Indian observatories to find out the equinox position of Antares, and they were not helpful. But Greenwich and Hamburg observatories have promptly responded with requisite assistance and Dr Brian G Marsden of Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, USA has very kindly favoured him by undertaking the desired calculations.

Dr Marsden writes to say, “The date when a. Scorpi  (Antares) was at ecliptic longitude 180 degree is around 2990 BCE”. The Vedic hymns were composed in earlier periods do reveal that around 3000 BCE, Indra (star Antares) had actually clutched on the thunder (comet) that impressed the Vedic singers as to the massive stature of his weapon.

The date of the solar eclipse near about the autumnal equinox visible from 30 degee  N Indian latitude calculated by expert astronomers is between 3000 BCE and 2800 BCE.

 

Umapada sen concludes the article with a tribute to the Vedic seers, “The Rig Veda is not a code of ethics, a book of morals, a bunch of liturgical exhortations, a bundle of idle speculations, a product of utter frustration or a text with meaningless jargons. It is a collection of sincere invocations, the spontaneous out pouring of the heart of the earliest poets, ovations to the Devas, the stellar gods, wherein the celebrations by and by engulf a vast sphere of sublime religious thought and a true record of intellectual growth and material progress attained by a group of human souls in a corner of the earth well before 3000 BCE.”

 

My comments

It is interesting to see that Vedic poets used a particular style of language or symbolism to express facts. The Brahmanas and the Vedas say that the gods like mysterious language (RV 4-3-16). Though our sees calculated the time of eclipses scientifically and accurately, they told the laymen some interesting stories about the snake Rahu devouring moon or sun to describe the eclipse. Here Atri utters four verses or mantras and the hidden sun came out, says the Vedic hymn. I think that is the time taken for the total eclipse of the sun.

 

Even today we are thrilled to read about the total eclipse of the sun in newspapers. My London neighbour spent 1000 pounds to see the solar eclipse in America. So even when Vedic Hindus knew what is an eclipse Atri might have told them “wait till I finish the four mantras and you will see the sun out. Like our astronomers tell us that the sun will be in full eclipse between this minute and this minute, Atri might have told his disciples, that before I finish the fourth mantra the sun will be out. If a solar eclipse is an astronomical wonder for us today, it would, definitely, have been a wonder for a Vedic Hindu 5000 years ago.

 

The second point I would like to make is that Vedic language is very difficult. Only those who are well versed in Astronomy can figure out the meaning of certain mantras. Sometime ago I posted Ornithologist K N Dave’s view of a mantra where in seven sisters meant actually birds. But even Sayana who lived just 600 years ago could not give the correct meaning. Because Dave was an ornithologist, he could understand what our seers said. Yaska who lived at least 2800 years before our time could not understand hundreds of words. That shows Vedas were very ancient, more ancient than we thought until today. Now our job is to reinterpret all the mantras with a panel of experts from every walk of life or profession and present both Sayana’s and the new interpretations. We must discard all foreigners’ writings.

 

Now that we know the Vedic civilization existed before Indus Valley civilization through scientific research of Sarasvati river and through the astronomical research, we must rewrite Indian history ASAP.

 

–Subham–

 

 

HINDU DHRUVA IN SHAKESPEARE! (Post No.4449)

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Date: 1 DECEMBER 2017 

 

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Post No. 4449

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SHAKESPEARE, the greatest English playwright and dramatist was influenced by Hindu literature. We know from his plays that he has read lot of materials. We see Kalidasa’s Shakuntala in Miranda in his play the Tempest. We hear about Nagaratna (cobra jewel) in one of the plays. I have already listed the parallelisms in Tirukkural, the Tamil Veda and Shakespeare in several articles. Here is one more Hindu story in Shakespeare.

 

The story of the young boy DHRUVA is known to every Hindu. Dhruva has been elevated to the status of Pole Star in Hindu literature. Not only Pole star but also the seven stars circling the pole star worshiped by millions of Hindus every day three times  when they do Sandhyavandan, the water ceremony.

 

According to the Vishnu Purana, the sons of Swayambhuva Manu were Priyavrata and Uttanapada. Uttandapada had two wives, one was Suruchi who was very proud and haughty and the other was Suniti who was humble and gentle. Suniti gave birth to Dhruva. Suruchi treated him very badly while he was young. Suruchi made sure that her son Uttama succeeds to the throne. Dhruva and his mother Suniti were helpless. Dhruva wanted to pray to God to keep himself happy. He joined a group of seers (Rishis) and he went through rigid course of austerities. Indra wanted to distract him so that there wont be any competition from him for his post. At the end, he got a boon from Vishnu and became a star. A star among boys and a star in the sky. Hindus are shown Dhruva Nakshatra—known as Pole Star during wedding along with the Seven Stars, the Ursa major. He is the pivot of the planets. He became the symbol of steadfastness, determination, tenacity and resolution to the Hindus. Hindus are advised to be as constant as Dhruva.

Shakespeare says in Julius Caesar,

“But I am constant as the Northern Star, of whose true fixed and resting quality, there is no fellow in the firmament”– (Caesar)

 

Several of Hindu beliefs are in Shakespeare for which there is no other source such as Greek, Egyptian and Roman.

 

–Subham–

 

 

 

 

Extra Terrestrial Civilization in Manu Smrti? (Post No.4432)

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Date: 25 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4432

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Whatever we have read as magic and mystery in the mythology seventy or hundred years ago, have become day to day ordinary things now; I will explain:

We thought only sages and seers (Rishis and Munis) could see what happens in another or a distant place; now we have CC TV and TV broadcasts which show us that happens in a distant place. With hand held objects, I pads and mobile phones we do now, what sages and seers did 100 years ago.

We thought only Rishis and Munis can hear Gandharva singing in the sky; now we have hand held small radios with  which we can hear Bhuloka Gandharavs (earthly musicians) but yet the music is coming from the heavens (air).

 

We heard that sages and seers received the truths from the heavens; they ‘heard’ it and so we called the Vedas Sruti (Sruti= which is heard); now with the help of internet and google, we can access truthful ( and of course porno and untruthful) information. Now we better understand how the sages and seers could have done it.

 

Now we know billions of pages can be saved on the internet and anyone could receive it from different parts of the world at any time. They are stored ‘somewhere”

If someone has talked or predicted about mobile, internet, television, Ipads etc. 150 years ago, one would have thought we are talking about something mysterious or strange or science fiction.

In short, now man has become Superman; Manusha has become a Deva!

 

When we read such magical things, we thought only Devas can do it. Now we know man is also becoming a superman. But yet no one could say what would happen in our grandchildren’s time. Incredible science inventions come every year. Now I can order radio or TV to switch on through my voice. I open the doors with my look (eyes) or finger prints.

But there is a big difference. Our sages did this without any equipment; they could talk about astronomy without telescopes, they could see distant objects without TV or Mobile phones. They knew that mind has more power than scientific equipment. They knew words have more power than science equipment. No one has mastered that art yet.

ET in Manu

 

Now I am coming to the point.

Manu Smrti and our Puranas speak about various time zones for Devas and Brahma. When we hear about Extra Terrestrial Civilizations in distant planetary system we will understand such descriptions better.

 

We read that Devas cant have sex in the Devaloka, cant stand on their feet,can’t blink, their garlands never wither away , they can travel from one place to another place and appear intact, sages like Narada can do inter galactic travel (Tri Loka Sanchari)etc.

 

Now I read in Manu Smrti that human year is different from Deva (angelic) year and Deva year is different from Brahma year and Brahma’s life is insignificant compared to the Supreme God. If at all we hear or find another ET civilisation, then we will know all these are true.

 

For a house fly that lives only 24 hours, human year is 365 times more; human life span is 365X100 days more than the fly’s life span. If we take the life of a bacterium then our life span is million times more. For a turtle ot tortoise that lives 300 years, our life span is shorter.

Now look at what Manu says about Time calculation:-

  1. When he whose power is incomprehensible, had thus produced the universe and men, he disappeared in himself, repeatedly suppressing one period by means of the other.
  2. When that divine one wakes, then this world stirs; when he slumbers tranquilly, then the universe sinks to sleep.
  3. But when he reposes in calm sleep, the corporeal beings whose nature is action, desist from their actions and mind becomes inert.
  4. When they are absorbed all at once in that great soul, then he who is the soul of all beings sweetly slumbers, free from all care and occupation.
  5. When this (soul) has entered darkness, it remains for a long time united with the organs (of sensation), but performs not its functions; it then leaves the corporeal frame.
  6. When, being clothed with minute particles (only), it enters into vegetable or animal seed, it then assumes, united (with the fine body), a (new) corporeal frame.
  7. Thus he, the imperishable one, by (alternately) waking and slumbering, incessantly revivifies and destroys this whole movable and immovable (creation).
  8. But he having composed these Institutes (of the sacred law), himself taught them, according to the rule, to me alone in the beginning; next I (taught them) to Mariki and the other sages.
  9. Bhrigu, here, will fully recite to you these Institutes; for that sage learned the whole in its entirety from me.
  10. Then that great sage Bhrigu, being thus addressed by Manu, spoke, pleased in his heart, to all the sages, ‘Listen!’
  11. Six other high-minded, very powerful Manus, who belong to the race of this Manu, the descendant of the Self-existent (Svayambhu), and who have severally produced created beings,
  12. (Are) Svarokisha, Auttami, Tamasa, Raivata, Kakshusha, possessing great lustre, and the son of Vivasvat.
  13. These seven very glorious Manus, the first among whom is Svayambhuva, produced and protected this whole movable and immovable (creation), each during the period (allotted to him).
  14. Eighteen nimeshas (twinklings of the eye, are one kashtha), thirty kashthas one kala, thirty kalas one muhurta, and as many (muhurtas) one day and night.
  15. The sun divides days and nights, both human and divine, the night (being intended) for the repose of created beings and the day for exertion.
  16. A month is a day and a night of the manes, but the division is according to fortnights. The dark (fortnight) is their day for active exertion, the bright (fortnight) their night for sleep.
  17. A year is a day and a night of the gods; their division is (as follows): the half year during which the sun progresses to the north will be the day, that during which it goes southwards the night.
  18. But hear now the brief (description of) the duration of a night and a day of Brahman and of the several ages (of the world, yuga) according to their order.
  19. They declare that the Krita age (consists of) four thousand years (of the gods); the twilight preceding it consists of as many hundreds, and the twilight following it of the same number.
  20. In the other three ages with their twilights preceding and following, the thousands and hundreds are diminished by one (in each).
  21. These twelve thousand (years) which thus have been just mentioned as the total of four (human) ages, are called one age of the gods.
  22. But know that the sum of one thousand ages of the gods (makes) one day of Brahman, and that his night has the same length.
  23. Those (only, who) know that the holy day of Brahman, indeed, ends after (the completion of) one thousand ages (of the gods) and that his night lasts as long, (are really) men acquainted with (the length of) days and nights.
  24. At the end of that day and night he who was asleep, awakes and, after awaking, creates mind, which is both real and unreal.
  25. Mind, impelled by (Brahman’s) desire to create, performs the work of creation by modifying itself, thence ether is produced; they declare that sound is the quality of the latter.
  26. But from ether, modifying itself, springs the pure, powerful wind, the vehicle of all perfumes; that is held to possess the quality of touch.
  27. Next from wind modifying itself, proceeds the brilliant light, which illuminates and dispels darkness; that is declared to possess the quality of colour;
  28. And from light, modifying itself, (is produced) water, possessing the quality of taste, from water earth which has the quality of smell; such is the creation in the beginning.
  29. The before-mentioned age of the gods, (or) twelve thousand (of their years), being multiplied by seventy-one, (constitutes what) is here named the period of a Manu (Manvantara).
  30. The Manvantaras, the creations and destructions (of the world, are) numberless; sporting, as it were, Brahman repeats this again and again.

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–Subham—

 

 

காலக் கணக்கு: 30 முகூர்த்தம்= ஒரு நாள், மநு நீதி நூல்-5 (Post No.4431)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 25 NOVEMBER 2017

 

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Post No. 4431

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கடந்த சில தினங்களில் வெளியான மநு நீதி நூல் கட்டுரைகளைப் படித்துவிட்டு ஐந்தாவது பகுதியைப் படிப்பது நலம் பயக்கும்; அறிவு ஒளிரும்; நூல் வேட்கை அதிகரிக்கும்!

51.பிரம்மாவானவர் தோன்றியவாறே ஒரு பகல் பொழுது கழிந்தவுடன் சகல படைப்புகளுடன் ஒடுங்கி விடுகிறார். அதாவது அந்தப் பிரம்மாவின் ஆயுள் முடிந்தது.

52.மீண்டும் படைக்கவேண்டும் என்று எப்பொழுது அந்த சக்தி வெளிப்படுகிறதோ அப்பொழுது படைப்பு துவங்கும். எப்பொழுது அதை முடிக்க திருவுளம் கொள்கிறாரோ அப்பொழுது ஒடுங்கிவிடும்.

(ஸ்லோகம் 52ல் ஒரு சிலேடை உள்ளது; ஜகத் என்றால் நகரக்கூடியது; விழிப்பு என்பதற்கான வினைச் சொல் ஜாக்ருதி)

 

53.கர்ம வினையால் படைப்பெடுத்த உயிர்கள் பிரம்மா உறங்கும் பொழுது செயலற்றுப் போவார்கள். மனதும் அதன் செயல்பாட்டை நிறுத்திகொள்ளும்

 

54.இவ்வாறு பிரம்மாவின் ஒவ்வொரு பகலிலும் இரவிலும் படைப்பு தோன்றுவதும் ஒடுங்குவதுமாக நடந்து கொண்டே இருக்கும். அவரது  ஆயுட்காலம் முடிந்த பின்னர், முழுமுதற்கடவுள் அந்த பிரம்மாவையும் அவரது படைப்புகளையும் உள்ளுக்குள் இழுத்துக் கொண்டு, யோக நித்திரை எனப்படும் அறிதுயிலில் ஆழ்வார்.

 

 

  1. பிறவி எடுத்த உயிரினம் நீண்டகாலம் வாழ்ந்து முடிந்த பின்னர், மூச்சுவிட முடியாத நிலையில் ஸ்தூல உடலை விட்டு, சூட்சும உடலை (கண்ணுக்குத் தெரியாத) உடலை அடைகிறது.

 

56.பிறகு அணுப்போலாகி, அசையும்-அசையா பரம்பொருள் என்னும் விதையில் நுழையும். அதில் ஐக்கியமாகும் போது பூத உடல் மறைந்துவிடும். எப்போது அவன் எட்டுவகை குணங்களைப் பெறுகிறானோ, அப்போது அவன் ஸ்தூல உடல் எடுப்பான். எட்டு குணங்கள்- புரியஷ்டகம்=பஞ்ச மஹா பூதம்/பஞ்ச இந்திரியம்+மனது/புத்தி+ஜன்மாந்தர வாசனை/கர்மவினை+பிராணவாயு

  1. என்றும் அழியாத பரம்பொருள் விழிக்கும் போதும் உறங்கும்போதும் இவ்வாறு உலகைப் படைத்தும் துடைத்தும் செயல்படும். உலகை அழிப்பதில் இடைவிடாமல் ஈடுபடும்.

 

  1. அவர் முதலில் இதைக் கற்பித்தபோது, என்னை கிரஹித்துக் கொள்ளவைத்தார். நான் இதை மரீசிக்கும் மற்றவர்களுக்கும் கற்பித்தேன்.

 

  1. பிருகு உங்களுக்குச் சொல்வார். அவர் என்னிடமிருந்து முழுதும் கற்றுக்கொண்டார்.

60.இவ்வாறு மநு சொன்னது ப்ருகுவுக்கு மிகவும் மகிச்சி அளித்தது

 

61.சுயம்புவான பிரம்மாவிடம் தோன்றிய மேலும் ஆறு மனுக்கள் உண்டு. அவர்கள் மகான்கள்; மஹா வல்லமை படைத்தவர்கள்.

  1. அவர்கள் அனைவரும் சுயம் பிரகாசம் உடையவர்கள்.

 

 

அவர்களுடைய பெயர்கள்:– ஸ்வரோசிஷஸ், உத்தமர், தாமசர், ரைவதர், சக்ஷூஸ், தேஜோமயமான விஸ்வாவசு (சுவாரோசிஷன்,உத்தமன், தாமசன், ரைவதன்,சாக்ஷுசன்,வைவசுவதன்)

 

63.அவர்கள் ஆறுபேரும் சுவாயம்புவ மநுவும் அவரவர் ஆட்சிக் காலத்தில் மக்களைப் படைத்தும் பராமரித்தும் வருவர்.

காலக் கணக்கு

  1. 18 இமைகள் = ஒரு காஷ்டை எனப்படும்

30 காஷ்டை= ஒரு கலை

30 கலைகள் = ஒரு முகூர்த்தம்

30 முகூர்த்தம் = ஒரு நாள்

65.மானிடர்க்கும் தேவர்களுக்கும் பகல்-இரவை வகுப்பவன் சூரியன்; இரவு, தூங்குவதற்கும் பகல் நேரம், வேலை செய்வதற்கும் ஒதுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

 

 

66.முப்பது நாள் என்பது மனிதர்களுக்கு ஒரு மாதம்; அதில் 15 நாட்கள் தேய் பிறையாகவும், 15 நாட்கள் வளர்பிறையாகவும் இருக்கும்.  இவ்விரு பக்ஷங்களும் க்ருஷ்ண, சுக்ல பக்ஷங்கள் — பிதுர்களுக்கு ஒரு நாள் ஆகும். தேய் பிறை என்பது அவர்களுக்குப் பகல்.

67.12 மானிட மாதங்கள் தேவர்களுக்கு ஒரு நாள்; தை முதல் ஆனி வரையுள்ள உத்தராயணம் தேவர்களின் பகல்; ஆடி முதல் மார்கழி வரையான காலம் அவர்களுக்கு இரவு. ஆக, மானிட வருடங்கள் முப்பது என்பது தேவர்களுக்கு முப்பது நாட்கள். அது போல 12 மாதங்கள் தேவர்களின் ஒரு வருடம்.

68.இனிமேல் பிரம்மாவின் இரவு பகல்கள், யுகங்கள் பற்றிச் சொல்லுவேன்; கேளுங்கள்

69.கிருத யுகம் என்பது = 4000  தேவ வருடங்கள்; அதற்கு முன் அது உருவாகும் இடைவெளிப்பொழுது (யுக சந்தி), அதாவது வைகறைப் பொழுது 400 தேவ வருடங்கள். காலையிலும் மாலையிலும் இப்படி சந்தியா வேளை இருப்பதால் கிருத யுகம் என்பது 4000+400+400=4800 தேவ வருடங்கள்.

 

70.ஏனைய மூன்று யுகங்களும் குறைந்து கொண்டே வரும்; மேலும் காலை மாலை சந்திப் பொழுது என்பதும் குறையும்; இந்தக் கணக்குப்படி, திரேதா யுகம் 3600, துவாபர யுகம் = 2400, கலியுகம் 1200 தேவ வருடங்கள் என்று அறிக.

 

எனது கருத்து    —   மநு தர்ம நூலில் விண்வெளி விஞ்ஞானம்!

 

1.பிக் பேங் (Big Bang) என்பது போல பிக் க்ரஞ்ச் (Big Crunch) உண்டு என்று இந்துக்கள் கூறுகின்றனர். இதை விஞ்ஞானிகள் இன்னும் முழுதும் ஏற்கவில்லை. விரைவில் ஏற்றுக் கொள்ளுவர்.

 

  1. மநு நீதி நூல் போன்ற சட்ட நூலில் காலக் கணக்கீடு, வாய்ப்பாடு ஆகியன இருப்பது வியப்புக்குரியது. அவர் பிக் பேங், பிக் க்ரஞ்ச் பற்றிப் பேசுவது இன்னும் வியத்தற்குரியது

 

3.நமக்கு ஒரு காலம், பித்ருக்களுக்கு ஒரு காலக் கணக்கு, பிரம்மாவுக்கு வேறு ஒரு காலக் கணக்கு ஆகியன வெளி உலகங்கள் (Extra Terrestrial Civilization) இருப்பதைக் காட்டும்.  வெளி உலக கிரக வாசிகள் (ET) கண்டு பிடிக்கப்பட்டால் அவர்கள் இப்படிப்பட்ட காலச் சுழற்சி உடைய இடத்தில் வசிப்பர்.

 

4,ஐன்ஸ்டைனையும் மிஞ்சும் விஷயங்களை மநு கூறுகிறார். பிற்காலத்தில் புராணங்களும் இதை அப்படியே சொல்லும்.

 

  1. இவ்வளவு சொல்லும் மனு, உலகிலுள்ள எல்லாப் பண்பாடுகளும், நமது புரா ண ங்களும் சொல்லும் பிரளயக் கதையைச் (Story of Great floods) சொல்லாததால், மனு ரிக் வேத காலத்தைச் சேர்ந்தவர் என்பது உறுதியாகிறது. அதாவது பைபிள் (Story of Noah) , மச்சாவதாரம் முதலியன சொல்லும் பிரளயக் கதை (deluge) ரிக் வேதத்திலோ மனுவிலோ இல்லாததால் இவை இரண்டும் காலத்தால் முந்தியவை என்பது தெரிகிறது.

6.யுக சந்தி என்று இடைவெளி கொடுப்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்கது. உடனே அடுத்த யுகம் துவங்குவதில்லை. அதாவது முந்தைய, பிந்தைய யுகங்களின் குணங்கள் கலந்து காணப்படும் குழப்பமான காலகட்டம். தேர்தல் முடிவால், ஒரு  அரசியல் கட்சி பதவி இழந்து ,பின்னர் அடுத்த கட்சி பதவியில் அமர்வதற்குள் காணப்படும் இரண்டும்கெட்ட நிலை போன்றது இது. நமது முன்னோர்கள் எவ்வளவு அறிவியல் முறையில் யுக மாற்றத்தை அணுகினார்கள் என்பதற்கு இதுவும் ஒரு சான்று.

to be continued………………………….

மஹாபாரதம் தெரிவிக்கும் அஸ்திரங்களின் மர்மம்! (Post No.4430)

Written by S.NAGARAJAN

 

 

Date: 25 NOVEMBER 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 6-26 am

 

 

 

Post No. 4430

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மஹாபாரதம்

கடந்த நூறு ஆண்டுகளில் மஹாபாரதம் பற்றிய ஏராளமான, சுவாரஸியமான ஆராய்ச்சிகள் நடைபெற்றுள்ளன. 2013, டிசம்பரில் வந்த ஒரு செய்தி பற்றிய கட்டுரை இது.

 

மஹாபாரதம் தெரிவிக்கும் அஸ்திரங்களின் மர்மம்!

 

ச.நாகராஜன்

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மஹாபாரதம் ஒரு லட்சம் ஸ்லோகங்களைக் கொண்டது. பிரமிக்க வைக்கும் மர்மங்களைக் கொண்டது.

கதை ரீதியான மரமங்கள் மட்டுமல்ல, இதை இயற்றிய வியாஸ பகவான் மஹாபாரதத்தில் அடக்கி இருக்கின்ற மரமங்களும் ஏராளம்.

 

கூட ஸ்லோகங்கள் என்று கூறப்படும் சுமார் 8000 ஸ்லோகங்களின் பொருளை விநாயகரே யோசித்துத் தான் புரிந்து கொண்டார் என்றால் சாமானிய மனிதர்களால் மஹாபாரதத்தின் முழுப் பொருளையும் புரிந்து கொள்வது சுலபமில்லை.

ம்ஹாபாரதத்தை பல நூறு கோணங்களில் ஆராயலாம். ஒவ்வொரு ஆராய்ச்சியும் பிரமிக்க வைக்கும் உண்மைகளைத் தெரிவிக்கும்.

 

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மஹாபாரதத்தில் கூறப்படும் அஸ்திரங்களைப் பற்றிய அபூர்வமான ஓலைச்சுவடி ஒன்று அஷ்டவைத்யன் வைத்யமடம் செரிய நாராயணன் நம்பூதிரி என்பவரிடம் இருந்தது. இவர் 2013ஆம் ஆண்டில் காலமானார்.

இவரது தொகுப்பில் உள்ள ஒரு மஹாபாரத நூலில் – பனை ஓலைச் சுவடி நூலில் – 63 பகுதிகளில் மஹாபாரதத்தில் கூறப்படும் அனைத்து அஸ்திரங்களும் எப்படி பயன்படுத்தப்படலாம் என்பதைப் பற்றிய விவரங்கள் உள்ளன.

இது சுமார் 120 வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னால் எழுதப்பட்டதாக நம்பப்படுகிறது.

இப்படி ஒரு ஓலைச் சுவடி இந்தியாவிலேயே இது ஒன்று தான்!

48 மந்திரங்கள் இதில் விவரமாகக் குறிப்பிடப்பட்டுள்ளன.

இந்த மந்திரங்கள் மூலமாக அஅனைத்து அஸ்திரங்களையும் இயக்க முடியும்.

 

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செரிய நாராயணன் நம்பூதிரியிடம் 1300 கட்டு ஓலைச் சுவடிகள் இருந்துள்ளன.இதை அவர் டிஜிடல் மயமாக்க வேண்டும் என்று திட்டமிட்டிருந்தார். இதன் மூலம் எதிர்கால் ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்கள் பெரிதும் பயனடைவர் என்பது அவரது எண்ணம்.

சென்ட்ரல் கவுன்ஸில் ஃபார் ரிஸர்ச் இன் ஆயுர்வேதா (Central Council for Research in  Ayurveda)-வின் டைரக்டர் திரு ஏ.ஆர். கிருஷ்ணகுமார், “ரெப்ரோகிராபி (reprography) என்ற நம்பகமான முறையில் நாங்கள் டிஜிடல் வடிவமாக இதை ஆக்கும் போது இந்த நூல் அருமையான ஒரு நூல் என்பதை அறிந்தோம் என்றார்.

இந்திராகாந்தி நேஷனல் சென்டர் ஃபார் தி ஆர்ட்ஸ், புது டில்லியிலிருந்து இந்தப் பணிக்காக அமைக்கப்பட்டுள்ள குழுவில் கிருஷ்ணகுமாரும் ஒருவர். இவர் ஐஜிஎன்சிஏ- ஐச் சேர்ந்த சீனியர் ரெப்ரோகிராபிக் அதிகாரி. (CCRASS ) Central Council for Research in Ayurdedic Sciences) – நிறுவனத்தின் ப்ராஜக்ட் மேனேஜர் கிருஷ்ணகுமார்.

இந்த மையம் பொது நிலையங்கள் மற்றும் தனியாரிடம் உள்ள அனைத்து ஓலைச்சுவடிகளையும் டிஜிடல் மயமாக்கும் பெரிய பொறுப்பை ஏற்றிருக்கிறது.

ஏன் இவை அனைத்து டிஜிடல்மயமாக்கப்பட வேண்டும் என்ற கேள்விக்கு கிருஷ்ணகுமார் பதில் அளிக்கையில், “ ஏனெனில் இது நமது பண்பாடு, வரலாறு, பழக்க வழக்கங்கள்,பழைய மதங்கள் ஆகியவை பற்றிய தகவல்களைத் தருவதோடு சுற்றுப்புறச் சூழல், உடல் நலம், புராதன கால விஞ்ஞானம் ஆகியவை பற்றித் தெரிவிக்கும்” என்கிறார்.

இது வரை ஆயுர்வேதம் பற்றிய சுவடிகளில் 15 % ஓலைச்சுவடிகள் மட்டுமே டிஜிடல்மயம் ஆக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. ஆயுர்வேதம் மிகவும் அங்கீகரிக்கப்பட்ட மருத்துவ சிகிச்சை முறையாக உலகில் இருக்கிறது. இப்போது சற்று கற்பனை செய்து பாருங்கள். ஐந்து லட்சம் ஓலைச் சுவடி நூல்களில் எவ்வளவு பிரம்மாண்டமான அறிவுச் செல்வம் புதைந்து கிடக்கும்!இது மக்களுக்குக் கிடைத்தால் ஆயுர்வேதம் இன்னும் எவ்வளவு திறனுடன் நன்மை தரும்” என்கிறார் கிருஷ்ணகுமார்.

“கேரளாவில் உள்ள நூலகங்கள், கல்லூரிகள், பல்கலைக் கழகங்கள் இன்னும் இதர நிறுவனங்களில் உள்ள நூல்களில் ஒரு பகுதியை சில வருடங்களுக்கு முன்னர் டிஜிடலைஸ் செய்தோம்.

இப்போது இரண்டாவது கட்டப் பணியாக பாலக்காடு மாவட்டத்தில் மேழாத்தூரில் உள்ள வைத்யமடத்தில் உள்ளவற்றை டிஜிடலைஸ் செய்ய ஆரம்பித்திருக்கிறோம். எங்களது அடுத்த இடம் தச்சு சாஸ்திரம் என்று கூறப்படும் கட்டிடக் கலைக்குப் பெயர் பெற்ற குன்னம் குளத்தின் அருகில் உள்ள கனிப்பையூர் மனா என்ற இடமாகும்.

இன்னும் பல மையங்களில் ஏராளமான சுவடிகள் உள்ளன” என்று கிருஷ்ணகுமார் கூறியுள்ளார்.

“இதில் ஒரு பெரிய நல்ல விஷயம் என்னவெனில் அனைத்து தனியார் வசம் உள்ள நூல்களையும் டிஜிடலைஸ் ஆக்க அனைவரும் ஒத்துழைப்புத் தருவது தான்!” என்று மகிழ்ச்சி பொங்க அவர் மேலும் தெரிவித்தார். ஆயுர்வேதம் மட்டுமின்றி இயற்பியல் விஞ்ஞானம், இரசாயனம், ஜோதிடம் உள்ளிட்ட பல பொருள்களைப் பற்றிய நூல்கள் இந்த ஐந்து லட்சத்தில் அடக்கம்!

 

4

இது 2013 டிசம்பரில் வந்த செய்தி. நான்கு வருடங்கள் ஓடி விட்டன. பல நூல்கள் டிஜிடலைஸ் ஆகி இருக்கும்..

மஹாபாரத அஸ்திர விவரங்களை நமது நாட்டு ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்களிடம் தந்தால் மிகப் பெரும் வல்லரசாக நாம் மாறி விடுவோம்.

இதே போலப் பல்வேறு ஆராய்ச்சியாளர்கள் வெவ்வேறு பொருளில் மஹாபாரத மர்மங்களை அவிழ்த்து வருகின்றனர்.

அவை அனைத்தும் சுவையானவை!

இது கடந்த நூறு ஆண்டுகளுக்கும் மேலாக நடை பெற்று வருகிறது.

அப்படியானால் இது வரை மஹாபாரதம் பற்றிய்  ஆராய்ச்சி முடிவுகள் எவ்வளவு இருக்க வேண்டும்.

மலைப்பாக இருக்கிறது.

அவை பற்றி அறிந்து கொள்வதே ஒரு ஆனந்தம் தான்!

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Science and Linguistics in Manu Smrti- Part 1 (Post No.4412)

Written by London Swaminathan 

 

Date: 19 NOVEMBER 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 14-15

 

 

Post No. 4412

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Manu Smrti is the first Law book in the world. It is in Sanskrit. There are over 2650 couplets in 12 chapters in the book. Latest updated version belongs to 2nd century BCE. But my research shows that the original Manu Smrti was composed before 2000 BCE. There are internal evidences for such dating; they are as follows:

 

Manu is referred to in the oldest book in the world – The Rig Veda

Manu talks about Sarasvati river which existed around 2000 BCE

Manu never spoke about Sati- the widow burning

Many of Manu’s rules wouldn’t fit into a period around 2nd century BCE

And updated version has lot of interpolations.

Leaders like Gandhiji could easily spot them, which went contradictory to the true spirit of the book.

People like B R Ambedkar felt very angry and burnt the copies because of Anti Shudra references in the book.

But even a child could see the interpolated Anti Shudra verses as later interpolations.

One must read it in full and then weigh it pros and cons.

The subjects he deals with are of amazing variety.

He lived before Hammurabi (1810 BCE) and other law makers.

Following is the evidence for his knowledge in Science:

My comments on first ten slokas:

  1. He knew Big Bang (See Sloka 5, 6 and 7 given below)
  2. He knew water is the source of living beings and the first seed was in the waters (see sloka 8 given below).

 

  1. Pancha Bhuta (Five Elements) concept went from India to Greece and other parts (See sloka 6).

 

  1. Linguistics:

His interpretation of the name Narayana (Nara=water+ Ayana=dwelling place) shows that water is called Nara. Linguists like S K Chatterjee thought Neer/water found in the Rig Veda was a Tamil word. But it is found in Greek in the word Nereids (water nymphs).

When a word is found in the Greek language it would be considered Indo European (Sanskrit family). But I have listed 20 to 30 Tamil words in ancient Greek. This supports my pet theory that Tamil and Sanskrit are the parents of most of the ancient languages. Most of the words can be traced back to either Tamil or Sanskrit (see Sloka 10 given below)

 

॥ मनुस्मृति अथवा मानवधर्मशास्त्रम् ॥

 

अध्याय १

मनुमेकाग्रमासीनमभिगम्य महर्षयः ।

प्रतिपूज्य यथान्यायमिदं वचनमब्रुवन् ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

भगवन् सर्ववर्णानां यथावदनुपूर्वशः ।

अन्तरप्रभवानां च धर्मान्नो वक्तुमर्हसि ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

त्वमेको ह्यस्य सर्वस्य विधानस्य स्वयंभुवः ।

अचिन्त्यस्याप्रमेयस्य कार्यतत्त्वार्थवित् प्रभो ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

स तैः पृष्टस्तथा सम्यगमितोजा महात्मभिः ।

प्रत्युवाचार्च्य तान् सर्वान् महर्षींश्रूयतामिति ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

आसीदिदं तमोभूतमप्रज्ञातमलक्षणम् ।

अप्रतर्क्यमविज्ञेयं प्रसुप्तमिव सर्वतः ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

ततः स्वयंभूर्भगवानव्यक्तो व्यञ्जयन्निदम् ।

महाभूतादि वृत्तोजाः प्रादुरासीत् तमोनुदः ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

योऽसावतीन्द्रियग्राह्यः सूक्ष्मोऽव्यक्तः सनातनः ।

सर्वभूतमयोऽचिन्त्यः स एव स्वयमुद्बभौ ॥

सोऽभिध्याय शरीरात् स्वात् सिसृक्षुर्विविधाः प्रजाः ।

अप एव ससर्जादौ तासु वीर्यमवासृजत् ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

तदण्डमभवद्धैमं सहस्रांशुसमप्रभम् ।

तस्मिञ्जज्ञे स्वयं ब्रह्मा सर्वलोकपितामहः ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्॥

 

आपो नारा इति प्रोक्ता आपो वै नरसूनवः ।

ता यदस्यायनं पूर्वं तेन नारायणः स्मृतः ॥ Bछ्.Sछ्

 

 

CHAPTER I

 

  1. The great sages approached Manu, who was seated with a collected mind, and, having duly worshipped him, spoke as follows:

 

  1. ‘Deign, divine one, to declare to us precisely and in due order the sacred laws of each of the (four chief) castes (varna) and of the intermediate ones.

 

  1. ‘For thou, O Lord, alone knowest the purport, (i.e.) the rites, and the knowledge of the soul, (taught) in this whole ordinance of the Self-existent (Svayambhu), which is unknowable and unfathomable.’

 

  1. He, whose power is measureless, being thus asked by the high-minded great sages, duly honoured them, and answered, ‘Listen!’

 

 

  1. This (universe) existed in the shape of Darkness, unperceived, destitute of distinctive marks, unattainable by reasoning, unknowable, wholly immersed, as it were, in deep sleep.

 

  1. Then the divine Self-existent (Svayambhu, himself) indiscernible, (but) making (all) this, the great elements and the rest, discernible, appeared with irresistible (creative) power, dispelling the darkness.

 

 

  1. He who can be perceived by the internal organ (alone), who is subtile, indiscernible, and eternal, who contains all created beings and is inconceivable, shone forth of his own (will).

 

  1. He, desiring to produce beings of many kinds from his own body, first with a thought created the waters, and placed his seed in them.

 

 

  1. That (seed) became a golden egg, in brilliancy equal to the sun; in that (egg) he himself was born as Brahman, the progenitor of the whole world.

 

  1. The waters are called narah, (for) the waters are, indeed, the offspring of Nara; as they were his first residence (ayana), he thence is named Narayana.

 

–to be continued……………..

 

 

 

STRANGE VEDIC RITUALS AND MANTRAS TO OBTAIN RAIN (Post No.4298)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date:13 October 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 18-42

 

 

Post No. 4298

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Vedic seers (rishis) believed in the extraordinary powers of the sound. They believed that certain intonations can do miracles. They were highly civilized and cultured and used metres in the poems to derive power. It is amazing to see such thinking before other civilizations never wrote poems following prosody or a set of grammar rules.

Following articles posted by me have the full details:

Vedic metrs | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/tag/vedic-metrs/

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These are the Vedic metres, part of prosody (the study of versification, especially, the systematic study of metrical structure). Vedic Hindus paid so much attention …

 

Vedic grammar | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/tag/vedic-grammar/

So they named all the Vedic metres after women starting from Gayatrimetre (24 syllables) and the speech as Vac or Sarasvati or Bharati. Some stanzas of the …

 

Vedas and science | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/tag/vedas-and-science/

Posts about Vedas and science written by Tamil and Vedas. … The term ‘Chandas’ (metre) normally sets a limit to the number of words used in a ‘Rik’; at a …

 

Vedic riddle | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/tag/vedic-riddle/

Posts about Vedic riddle written by Tamil and Vedas. … Seven hands are explained as seven metres of the Vedas. Triple bonds are Mantra, Kalpa and …

 

Satapata Brahmana has very interesting information   regarding this. Unless we do proper scientific research, we would not know the full significance of it. Even though Sayana and several others before him tried to interpret Vedas, traditionalists never acknowledged it. They believed mantras have sound effect and there is no need to know the meaning.

Looking at the mantras in the Brahmana literature we would also think the same, because many of them have no meaning literally or the meaning would be ‘silly’.

 

Here are some passages from the Brahmanas:

“On account of the metres of the first three days being ascending, the fire blazes up, for the upper regions belong to fire. On account of the metres of the middle three days being crossed, the wind blows across. The wind moves across the other regions, and the waters flow also across; for the region which is across the others belong to the wind. On account of metres of the last three days being descending, that one (i.e. the sun) burns downwards, the rain falls down, and the constellations in the heaven sends their light down. For the region which goes down belongs to the sun”.

 

“The strength of the metres was exhausted by the gods, for it was by the metres that the gods attained the world of heaven.   And the response song is ecstasy – what ecstasy there in the Rik and that is there in the Saman, that is sap. This sap now he lays in the metres and thus makes the metres of restored strength, and with them of restored strength, they perform the sacrifices”—Satapata Br. 4-3-2-5

 

The science of the Vedas is most intimately connected with  the rhythm and metres of the Vedas. Vedic Hindus had great faith in the stupendous powers of different metres, employed in the several mantras  recited at the sacrifices, the number of feet in each, the variety of the feet, and the manner in which these occurred, as stated above, for example.

In the Aitareya Brahmana we have the following: –

“Which has its analogy in the fact that great people, when travelling to a distant place, yoke to their carriage at every station fresh horses or oxen which are not fatigued. Just in the same way the sacrificers travel to the celestial world by employing at every station fresh metres representing the horses or oxen which are not fatigued”.

 

Here is another way of obtaining rain: On the fourth day of the Dvadasa Sacrifice, the singers make ‘Nyunkha’ of the syllable ‘Vach’ by pronouncing it with a tremulous voice increasing and decreasing the tone. This serves to make the fourth day particularly important. Because the ‘Nyunkha’ (the special mode of intoning vach) produces food for the singers seeking a livelihood, wander about to make food grow by their singing for rain’- Aitareya Br. Haugh Vol. bii. P 323

 

Food and rain are thus produced by making Nyunkha. The power of Nyunkha to bring rain must be explored scientifically. I believe that the sound waves and water were used by the Vedic Hindus to give one a boon or throw a curse.

The power of Kusa/Dharba grass is also known only to Vedic Hindus. We must do scientific research.

 

–Subham–

 

179 ‘VICTIMS’ IN HINDU HUMAN SACRIFICE!- Part 1 (Post No.4262)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 1 October 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 15-33 pm

 

Post No. 4262

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Please read my articles posted in the past few days on the same topic if you need more background information about Purushamedha and Sunaschepa anecdote

 

Pursuhamedha Yajnam, Human Sacrifice, never happened in Hindu India. Sunschepa episode in Aitareya Brahmana showed that Hindus never tolerated such barbaric acts. There were always revolutionary leaders like he great Viswamitra to revolt against such acts. Even in the Vedic literature King Harichandra only tried it and failed miserably. We have a long list of kings before Harichndra and longer list of kings after him. No such custom or actual incident is reported.

But the most interesting thing is there is a big chapter detailing this fire sacrifice. This shows that all the yajnas were symbolic and they mean actually different things. The seers themselves repeat the phrase, ‘Gods love the mystic or mysterious”. So they show that all the 179 jobs are necessary to run life successfully. The victims list makes very interesting reading. There is eve astronomer. And the first person thrown into the fire was a Brahmin!

 

This clearly shows that the message is not burning the people, but making them part of the functional society. Without them the society is not complete. Foreigners who wanted to show Hinduism in bad light tried their best to use this sacrifice, but in vain.

 

Satapata Brahmna (of Yajur Veda) and the Aitareya Brahmana (of the rig Veda) give a detailed description of the rite.

 

If you read the full list you would yourself know that it is symbolic.

Here is the list of 179 victims and to which god they were ‘’sacrificed’’ from the Taittiriya Brahmna:–

 

1.To the divinity of Brahman caste a Brahmin should be sacrificed (‘alabhate)

After this only the God and the victim are mentioned without the verb ‘sacrificed’

 

  1. To the divinity of Kshatriya caste a kshatriya (king or warrior)

 

3.To the Maruts, a Vaisya (business man)

  1. To the Tapas (presiding deity of penance), a Shudra
  2. To the Tamas (divinity of darkness) a thief
  3. To naraka (hell), a Virahana, one who blows out sacrificial fire.
  4. To Papman (divinity of sin), a hermaphrodite (a eunuch.
  5. To Akrayi ( divinity of commerce), an Ayogu (one who acts against the ordinances of Satras

9.To Kama (divinity of Love, a courtesan).

  1. To Atikrushtha, a Magadha (the son of a Vaisya by a Kshatria woman)

(Mixed marriages were encouraged!!)

  1. To Gita (divinity of Music), a Suta or a musician.

(Vedic society had great number of music lovers and singers. They were a happy group who enjoyed dance and music)

  1. To Nritta (Divinity of Dancing),one who lends his wife to another ( a cuckold)

13.To Dharma (righteous behaviour), one who frequents assemblies and preaches preaches morality.

  1. To Narma, the Divinity of Humour), a wit

 

15.To Narishta, a coward.

  1. To Hasa ( the divinity of Laughter), a person of ambling gait.

 

(So it is not a nomadic, pastoral, uncivilised community; Foreigners contradict themselves)

 

  1. To Ananda (the divinity of delight), a favourite of  women
  2. To Pramada (the divinity of Joy, the son of an unmarried woman

 

  1. To Medha, (the Goddess of Intelligence), a coach builder
  2. To Dhairya (the divinity of Patience), a carpenter.

21To Srama (divinity of labour), the son of a  potter

22.To Maya (divinity who delights in Art), a blacksmith

23.To Rupa (the divinity of beauty), a jeweller

24.To the divinity of Prosperity, an agriculturist

25.To Saravyi (divinity of arrows), an arrow-maker

26.To Heti (Goddess of arms), a bow-maker

27.To Karma (divinity of art-work), a bow string maker

28.To Dishta, a maker of ropes

29.To Mrtyu (the divinity of death), a hunter

30.To Antaka (the divinity of murder), aperson delighting in hunting with dogs

 

31.To Sandha (Divinity of assignation), a person given to adultery

32.To Geha (the divinity of homesteads), one who live in concubinage

33.To Nirriti (the goddess of mis fortune), one who has married before his elder brother

34.To Atri (the goddess of pain), one who wishes to marry before his elder brother

35.To Aradhi (divinity who causes obstruction to enterprise), , one who has married a widow

 

36.To Pavitra (divinity of purity), a Doctor/physician

37.To Prajnana (divinity of Time), an Astronomer

38.To Niskriti (goddess of success), the wife of a goldsmith

39.To Bala (Divinity of strength), a girl who is forcibly taken and kept as a concubine for food and raiment, but no pay

40.To Vrana (the Divinity of colours), one who works for the sake of another, not for himself.

 

My comments:–

 

Max Mullers and Caldwells and Marxists looked like Pukka Idiots before this list. They described this list silly, ridiculous, childish, and from nomads, pastoral, migrants.

But all these items show they were high ranking thinkers, they have doctors, astronomers, engineers and agriculturists in the list. They knew if they publish this list which belongs to 1000 BCE or before they will become the laughing stock. So they did not make the list very popular. Anyone who reads between the lines will know how thoughtful they were about the society, the works and the professionals. There is even a person “one who works for the sake of another, not for himself”, may be a social worker!

 

to be continued…………..

 

 

 

 

‘WOMEN ARE STARS’ says SATAPATA BRAHMANA (Post No.4253)

Picture of Saptarishi mandala (Great Bear/ Ursa Major/ Great Dipper)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 28 September 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 14-37

 

 

Post No. 4253

 

Satapata Brahmana, part of Shukla Yajur Veda, says that women are stars. They mean that women become stars in the sky and lead their husbands to heaven.

 

Many cultures believe that dead people, ancestors, departed souls become stars. But Hindus say that good souls become stars. Hindus even gave the star status to Seven Seers (sapta Rishis/ Ursa Major), a little boy name Dhurva (Pole star) , Agastya (Canopus), chaste women Arundhati (alcol) and Trishanku (Southern cross).

Satapata Brahmana says:

“Of old the divine women, with unclipped wings, dear to all the gods, did bake it (the fire pan), like Angiras, in the lap of the earth; and with their help, he (the priest) now bakes it. but surely these are the stars – the women (jani) and indeed the stars, for these are the lights of those righteous men (jana) who go to the celestial world; it is by means of the stars that he thus bakes it.”

 

“When one has thus ascended these worlds, that is the goal, that the safe refuge; the rays of the sun who burns there, are the righteous departed and what highest light, there is, that is Prajapati or the heavenly world. Having then in this way ascended these worlds, he reaches that goal, that safe refuge”

–Satapata Brahmana 1-9-3/10

Seven Seers ( Sapta Rishis) constellation

In 4-3-4-8 we read the statement that the stars are the lights of righteous me who go the heavenly world. In another passage, we read that they are divine women. There is no contradiction; both the statements are right.

 

Vanaparvam of Mahabharata also confirms that the stars are holy souls.

 

Stars like Rohini attains importance during marriages.

Stars like Krittikas attains importance during long fire sacrifices.

 

In fact, all the 27 stars are important in one way or other.

Arudra star is identified with Lord Shiva

Sravana is identified with Lord Vishnu

Krittikas are identified with Lord Skanda and the six women who raised him.

Every star has a story!

 

Tamil books and Sanskrit books give several names for each star and each one has some explanation. A scientific study will help us to understand these better.

 

I have illustrated the significance of the stars in four or five of my articles.

 

–Subham–

 

 

STAR MYSTERIES IN THE RIG VEDA- PART 2 (Post No.4250)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 27 September 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 14-55

 

 

Post No. 4250

 

Pictures are taken from various sources such as google, Facebook friends, newspapers and Wikipedia for non-commercial use; thanks.

 

 

I posted the first part of this article yesterday.

 

Part 2

Atharva Veda added more names to the Nakshatra list.

Punarvasu is recommended by all authorities as suitable for ‘relaying of sacred fires (Punar aadheya); Kathaka Samhita allows Anuradha (star) also.

One Year

In the ceremony of Agnicayana (piling of the fire altar),the bricks are assumed to be equal in number to the Naksatrasa. The bricks number 756 and they are equated to 27 stars multiplied by 27 secondary stars (nakshatras), reckoned as 720 (instead of 729) with addition of 36 days, the length of intercalary month.

Taiitiriya, Maitrayani and Kathaka samhitas give a list of 28 stars.

 

Taittiriya Samhita divided the stars into two categories:

1.Deva naksatras 1-14 i.e. Krittika to  Visakhe

2.Yama Naksatras- 15-27 i.e. Anuradha to Apabharani (Abijit with No 20 is not included)

 

In Krittika group (Pleiades) the names of the seven stars in the constellation include : Abhrayantii, Meghayantii, Vajrayantii (all connected with rain and clouds)

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Next to Rohini comes Mrgasiirsa  ( also called Invakaa) and Arudraa (moist), Punarvasu, Tishya (also known as Pushya), Aslesa, Maghas (also known as Anaghaa). They are followed by Phalguni (also Arjuni), Hasta, Citra, Svati (also known as Nistyaa), Visakhe, Anuradha, Rohini (Jyestagni or Jyesta—two stars have the name ROHINI),Vicratu (Mula), Ashadas (Uttara, Purva), Abhijit (in the Lyrae constellation), Srona (Sravana), Sravisthas (also Dhanista), Satabhisaj (having 100 physicians), Prosthapadas, Revati, Asva-yujau (Asvini), Apabharani (Bharani).

 

In the Brahmanas , Nakshatras are joined with the moon such as Tisya- Paurnamasa, Phalghuni paurnamasa etc

The Nakshatras and the Chronology

Sravana always marked the Summer Solstice.

Now we list the stars from Asvini, Bharani, krittika………….; but in Vedic days all the lists of the Naksatras (stars) begin with Kritika. The reason is vernal equinox coincided with it. It happened in 3000 BCE, according to Weber.

 

Jacobi’s argument

German scholar Herman Jacobi contended that in the Rig Veda (RV 7-103 frog hymn; 10-85 marriage hymn) , the commencement of the rains and the summer solstice mark the beginning of the new year and the new year began with summer solstice in Phalguni. He has also referred to the distinction of the two sets of Deva and Yama nakshatras in the Taittiriya Brahmana as supporting his view of the connexion of the sun and the nakshatras.

 

The Winter Solstice in Magha (Regulus)

William Jones calculated it happened in 1181 BCE, taking the starting point at 499 CE given by Varaha mihira; but Davis and Colebrook arrived at 1391 BCE.

Year Beginning in Phalghuni:

Since it is called the mouth of the year, Phalghuni was considered the beginning of the year. Jacobi calculated and said that it happened in 4000 BCE.

 

B G Tilak, on the other hand, holds that the winter solstice coincided with the Magha full moon at the time of the Taitiriya Samhita (2350BCE) and coincided with Phalguni and Caitri  in early periods – i.e. 4000 – 2500 BCE, and 6000-4000 BCE.

 

I am Margasirsha among the months: Krishna said in the Bhagavad Gita. Why?

 

Markazi (in Tamil) or Maargairsha was called Aagrahaayana (belonging to the beginning of the year. Spring commenced in Caitra). This means the Vedas older than these calculations.

 

Pole Star

Jacobi pointed out Dhruva means fixed star and this pole star could have happened only in third millennium BCE.

 

All these point out to a very old date for the Rig Veda. If Margasirsa was the first month (as we find in the Bhagavad Gita) it will give us an older date to the Vedas!

Source Book: Vedic Index by Keith and Macdonell

 

Tomorrow I will tell you about Yajur Veda’s statement “STARS ARE WOMEN!”

–Subham-