‘ABRA CADABRA’ AND ‘MUMBO JUMBO’ IN ATHARVANA VEDA (Post No.10,440)

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Post No. 10,440
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The 30 white skinned people under Max Muller gang and the anti Hindu Marxist gang could not translate many words in the Vedas. When different numbers came they said they are just ‘fancilful’ numbers without any significance. When one fellow interpreted one word as an insect, another fellow said ‘No, it must be Devata’; ‘third person said no probably they meant a drainage’. If you want Vedic jokes I can give you how one word is interpretaed in six different ways. But I would like to invite you to enjoy the jokes for yourself. Please read all the 20,000 mantras in Four Vedas; but never ever jump to conclusion; then you would be the 31st idiot in Max Muller-Marxist Gang!
All hymns are available free in Wikipedia and from other sources.

This gang of bad people suddenly quotes Sayana, the great Hindu commentator, and then cunningly introduce their own interpretations; you would be confused. That is their plan! Sayana himself came many thousand years after the Vedic mantras!!
Neither 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature nor older Sanskrit literature said anything about Aryans coming into India. But the gang of scoundrels repeated it till their last breadth. Mahatma Gandhi, Ambedkar, Swami Vivekananda, Aurobindo and other great people ridiucled this Western mischief.

One Atharvana Veda (AV) hymn is as difficult as the Rig Vedic hymn 1-164. There the most famous statement is made by a saint/seer called Mr Long Darkness. His name is Dirgatamas. He was born blind. He said ‘God is one; scholars name him differently’- ‘Ekam Sat Vibraahaa Bahutaa Vadanti’ . But his other statements in the long poem surprised scholars. They could not give uniform interpretation.

And now another Athrvana Vedic (AV) poem says GOD IS ONE, but in NUMBERS! No one could give the meaning of this Atharvana Veda Mantra in full; the reason being the saint or seer repeated several things in numbers. First read the Numbers and then the translation:-

Follwing Vedic metres mean the number of syllables in it; but to say a particular number also they use it: (these metre names come in the referred AV hymn)

Gayatri – 24
Ushnih -28
Anushtub – 32
Brihati – 36
Pankti- 40
Trishtub – 44
Jagati – 48
(Brahmins repeat this thrice a day in their Sandhyavandana ritual).
Certain numbers are very familiar with Vedic students.
For instance if I want to say I want 8 Dosas, I may say ‘please give me Vasu (8) dosas’, 11 Vadas, I may say ‘Rudra (11) Vadas’, and for 12 laddus, I may say ‘Aditya laddus, please!’
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ATHARVANA VEDA ; BOOK 8; HYMN 9 (SUKTAM 442)
MANTRA 1: numbers 2,2,2
MANTRA 2: number 3
MANTRA 3: 3,4,1,1
MANTRA 4 : 6, 5, Brhat
MANTRA 5: brhati
MANTRA 6 : 2,6,6
MANTRA 7: 7, 6
MANTRA 12: 2, 2
MANTRA 13 : 3, 1, 1, 1
MANTRA 14: 4,gayatri, Trishtub, Jagati, Anushtub, Brihad
MANTRA 15: 5,5,5,5, 15, 1, 1
MANTRA 16: 6,6,6,6, 1
MANTRA 17: 6,6, 7, 7, 7,
MANTRA 18: 7,7, 7, 7, 7, 7
MANTRA 19: 7,4,7
MANTRA 20: 15, 3X30, above vedic metres
MANTRA 21: 8,1,8,8,8,8
MANTRA 22: one
MANTRA 23: 8,6,7,7, 5
MANTRA 24: 1, 4
MANTRA 25: one, 1, 1
MANTRA 26: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1
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HERE IS THE FULL MANTRA
Hymns of the Atharva Veda, by Ralph T.H. Griffith, [1895],

HYMN IX, Book 8, AV
An enunciation of cosmogonical, ritual, and metrical doctrine
1.Whence were these two produced? which was that region?’
From what world, from which earth had they their being?
Calves of Virāj, these two arose from water. I ask thee of these
twain, who was their milker.
2.He who prepared a threefold home, and lying there made the
water bellow through his greatness,
Calf of Virāj, giving each wish fulfilment, made bodies for him-
self far off, in secret.
3.Which are the three, the mighty three, whereof the fourth divides
the voice,
This may the Brāhman know by prayer and fervour, whereto
belongs the one, whereto the other.
4.Out of the Brihat as the sixth five Salmons have been fashioned
forth:
From Brihatī was Brihat formed: whence was the Brihatī com-
posed?
5.On measure Brihatī is based, and measure on the measurer:
From magic might came magic might, from magic might came
Mātali.
6.Vaisvānara’s image is the sky above us, so far as Agni forced
both spheres asunder. p. a347
Thence from that region as the sixth come praise-songs, and
every sixth day hence again go upward.
7.We, Kagyapa! six present Rishis, ask thee—for thou hast prov-
ed things tried and meet for trial
They call Virāj the Father of Devotion: tell her to us thy
friends in all her figures.
8.She whom, advancing, sacrifices follow, and when she takes her
station stand beside her,
By whose control and hest the spirit moveth, she is Virāj, in
highest heaven, O Rishis.
9.Breathless, she moves by breath of living creatures, Svarāj pre-
cedes, Virāj comes closely after.
Some men behold her not, and some behold her, Virāj meet-
shaped, who thinks of all existence.
10.Who hath perceived Virāj’s duplication, perceived her seasons
and her rule and practice?
Who knows her steps, how oft, how far extended, who knows
her home and number of her dawnings?
11.She here who first of all sent forth her lustre moves onward
resting on these lower creatures.
Exalted power and might are stored within her: the woman
hath prevailed, the new-come mother.
12.Both Dawns on wings of song, with rich adornment, move on
together to their common dwelling.
Sūrya’s two wives, unwasting, most prolific, knowing their way,
move, rich in light, together.
13.The three have passed along the path of Order—three warm
libations have regarded offspring
One quickens progeny, one strengthens vigour, and one protects
the kingdom of the pious.
14.She who was fourth was made by Agni, Soma, and Rishis as.
they formed both halves of worship,
Gāyatrī, Trishtup, Jagatī, Anushtup, Brihadarki lightening the
sacrificer.
15.Five milkings answer to the fivefold dawning, five seasons to
the cow who bears five titles.
The five sky-regions made fifteen in number, one head have
these to one sole world directed.
16.Six Elements arose, first-born of Order: the six-day time is
carried by six Sāmans. p. a348
Six-yoked the plough is, as each trace is numbered: they call
both broad ones six; six, Earth and Heaven.
17.They call the cold months six, and six the hot ones. Which, tell
us, of the seasons is redundant?
Seven sages, eagles, have sat down together: seven metres
match the seven Consecrations.
18.Seven are the Homas, seven the logs for burning, seven are the
streams of mead, and seven the seasons.
Into the world have come seven streams of butter; those we
have heard of as the Seven Vultures.
19.Seven metres, by four syllables increasing, each of the seven
founded upon another
How are the hymns of praise on these supported, and how are
these imposed upon the praise-songs?
20.How hath the Gāyatri filled out three triads? On the fifteen
how is the Trishtup moulded,
Jagatī fashioned on the three-and-thirty? How is Anushtup
formed? how Ekavinsa?
21.Eight Elements sprang up, first born of Order: the Priests
divine are eight in number, Indra!
Eight are the wombs of Aditi, eight her children; for the eighth
night is the libation destined.
22.So planning bliss for you have I come hither to win your
friendship: kind am I, and gracious.
Born from one source, propitious is your wisdom: knowing
full well to all of you it cometh.
23.To Indra eight, to Yama six, seven to the Rishis, seven to
each:
The number five accompanies waters and men and healing
herbs.
24.The Heifer, all his own, poured forth for Indra control and
milk at her first time of milking;
And he then satisfied the four divisions, the Gods and men and
Asuras and Rishis.
25.Who is the Cow? Who is the Single Rishi? What is the law,
what are the benedictions?
What on the earth is the one only Spirit? Which of the number
is the Single Season?
26.One is the Cow, one is the Single Spirit, one is the law, single
are benedictions. p. a349
The Spirit dwelling on the earth is single: the Single Season
never is transcended.
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What is it?
Such poems in Vedas are called Brahmodyam. It consists of a series of purposely enigmatical question and dark answers on cosmological, ritual and metrical doctrine. It is obscure throughout and many parts i find it absolutely unintelligible, says Ralph TH Griffith in the foot note
In footnotes, the translators have added their interpretaions, mostly conjectural.
There are more poems like this in AV , 5-1, 4-1 etc
In a footnote for AV 5-1 , Griffith adds,
This hymn like the introductory hymn of Book IV, is a Brahmodyam, an enunciation in designedly enigmatical language of cosmological and mysto theological doctrine. TRANSLATION AND EXPLANATION CAN ONLY BE CONJECTURAL, AND SOME PASSAGES DO NOT LEND THEMSELVES TO EITHER.

It is very difficult to get the proper meaning of many Vedic mantras. The best way of approach is to listen to great people who practise it and who believe in the Vedas. Fortunately we still have great Shankaracharyas and Vedic scholars attached to Shankara Mutts. It is the duty of every Hindu to support Vedic pundits and encourage more children to join Veda Patasalas, at least on part time basis.One Adi Shankara or one Vivekananda will come one day to restore the ancient glory.
–subham–

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