Post No. 9826

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Manikka vasagar (maanikka vaasagar), one of the four great Tamil Saivite saints, wrote Tiruvasagam. He might have lived just before Sambandar and Appar, which will fix his time around seventh century CE. His masterpiece Tiruvasagam attracted even Christian preachers like Rev.G U Pope. He translated it into English. It contains 51 hymns on Lord Shiva. Manikka vasagar’s another work is Tirukkovaiyar.

Manikka vasagar makes some interesting remarks about the Vedas.

Those remarks are echoes of the mantras found in the Rig Veda, the oldest book in the world ,dated between 6000 BCE and 1500 BCE.

I will compare only a few hymns from the RV.

The common factor between the two is

“Crying and weeping for His grace”.


RV 1-25-19

Varuna , hear this call of mine; be gracious unto us this day.

Longing for help I cried to thee.

Manikka vasagar  says in 2-136

நாத நாத என்றழு தரற்றிப்
பாத மெய்தினர் பாத மெய்தவும்

On earth they rolled, they fell, they wailed

They rushed with eager foot to reach the sea;

Our Lord, Our Lord , they wept and called



Bring in your triple car, O Asvins, bring us present prosperity with noble offspring.

I cry to you who hear me for protection; you be our helpers where men win the booty.

Manikka vasagar says in 4-59…..61

தப்பாமே, தாம் பிடித்தது சலியா,
தழல் அது கண்ட மெழுகு அது போல,
தொழுது, உளம் உருகி, அழுது, உடல் கம்பித்து,
ஆடியும், அலறியும், பாடியும், பரவியும்,

Lest I should go astray, He laid His hand on me

As wax before the unwearied fire

With melting soul I worshipped, wept, and bent myself,

Danced , cried aloud and sang, and prayed



Now whither to ? what goal of yours you go in heaven and not on earth?

Where else you find cows bellowing (mooing)?

Manikka vasagar says 5-85

Thee worship the earth and heaven , with shouts of joy, and Four fold Vedas

They are yearning pine for Thee

Again in the same fifth hymn 5-348

Estranged, a  slave , I wildered weep

  வணங்கும் நின்னை, மண்ணும், விண்ணும்; வேதம் நான்கும் ஓலம் இட்டு
உணங்கும், நின்னை எய்தல் உற்று, மற்று ஓர் உண்மை இன்மையின்;
வணங்கி, யாம், விடேங்கள் என்ன, வந்து நின்று அருளுதற்கு,
இணங்கு கொங்கை மங்கை பங்க! என் கொலோ நினைப்பதே?

(Vedas cry for your help . The words earth and heaven found here– are repeated hundreds of times in the Vedas too. This confirms Manikkavasagar is repeating the Rig Vedic Mantras.

What we find in common between M and RV is that devotees always cry for the help from Gods.

அழுகேன், நின்பால் அன்பு ஆம் மனம் ஆய்; அழல் சேர்ந்த
மெழுகே அன்னார், மின் ஆர், பொன் ஆர், கழல் கண்டு
தொழுதே, உன்னைத் தொடர்ந்தாரோடும் தொடராதே,
பழுதே பிறந்தேன்; என் கொண்டு உன்னைப் பணிகேனே?

In other words they pine, weep, yearn and long for God.

In 5 -357 to 360, Manaikkavasagar says

பாடல் எண் : 90 
யானேபொய் என்நெஞ்சும் பொய் என்அன்பும்     பொய்
ஆனால் வினையேன் அழுதால் உன்னைப்   பெறலாமே
தேனே அமுதே கரும்பின் தெளிவே    தித்திக்கும்
மானே அருளாய் அடியேன் உனைவந்    துறுமாறே   

I am indeed false; my heart also is false;
my love too is false;Yet,if ,
I the Karma-ridden one,
weep for You I can secure You.
O Honey,Nectar,Essence of sweet cane

And sweet and great One,grace me,Your slave, to reach You.


Thus we see Manikka vasagar echoing the Rig Vedic mantras in his great devotional work. From the Himalayas to Kanyakumari, from the Vedic days to devotional period in Tamil Nadu, the approach was same. Though the Vedas mentioned different gods in different hymns the attributes to Gods were nearly same.


Tags -Tiruvasagam, Rig Veda, Crying, Weeping


Compiled by London Swaminathan
Date: 8 October 2018


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Post No. 5519


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Babies Anecdotes

During gold rush days in California, a lady took her infant to the theater ones evening and it started crying just as the orchestra began to play
Stop those fiddle s and let the baby cry, called a man in the pit
I haven’t heard such a sound in ten years!
The audience applauded the sentiment widely, the orchestra was stopped, and the baby continued its performance amid unbounded enthusiasm .

The six year old wandered into the room where the brand new baby was being nursed. Because of her interest in the process, the mother carefully explained how mother animals furnish milk for their babies, even the human species. The child was satisfied on all but one point.
But mother, she demanded, is it pasteurised?


Burdened with the care of a new baby the young mother sent her little brother to the department store to get some things for the new arrival.

He managed to get everything without too much trouble. The last item on his list was diapers. He went to the counter where they were sold , stated his wishes and in the space of a few minutes the salesgirl returned with a bundle.
That will be sixty cents for the diapers and two cents for the tax.

Ah, never mind the tacks , said the youngster , Sis puts them on the baby with safety pins”


Small Children Anecdotes

When he was in a nursery school, Woody, the young son of Heywood Broun, was constantly annoyed by grown up visitors to whom he had been pointed out, who kept coming up to him and asking him in saccharine tones
And whose little boy are you?

To one such inquirer, when his patience was exhausted, Woody peremptorily replied
You know damned well whose little boy I am!


Themistocles had a son who was the darling of his mother
This little fellow , said Themistocles, is the sovereign of all Greece
How so? Asked a friend.
Why?, he governs his mother, his mother governs me, I governs Athenians, and the Athenians govern all Greece.

Napoleon the Third was practising a Spartan method of education for the little five year old Louise Napoleon .

One day, in pursuance of his course, at Biarritz the child was given a swimming lesson by being tossed head first into the water. He was quite terrified and was severely reproached for this. He, a corporal, who could face a loaded canonical without wincing, and yet was afraid of the water!
Well, whimpered, little Louis,
I am in command of the cannon but I am not in command of the sea.


Generally Byron suffered a moody and irritable childhood, between his cruel nurse whom he hated and feared, and his eccentric and tempestuous mother. In fourth year he bit a large piece out of a China saucer “ in a silent rage “ . Coming into the title at ten , he burst into tears when first called ‘dominus ‘ (LORD) at school.



The late, Sir Josiah Stamp, the economist was fond of a story about a parliamentary candidate who approached a house in his constituency and saw two small children of identical size and appearance standing hand in hand before the cottage door.
Jovially he asked them if they were twins.
No sir, they answered.
You are brothers, aren’t you? He inquired.
Yes,they said.
Well, how old are you?
We are both five..
Well,m y goodness, if you are both  five and brothers you must be twins.
Please,sir, one of them,
We are triplets . Billie is indoors.

The little young lady of the house, by way of punishment for some misdemeanour, was compelled to eat her dinner alone at a corner of the dining room. The rest of the family paid no attention to her presence until they heard her audibly delivering Grace over her own repast, with the words,
I thank Thee Lord for preparing a table before me in the presence of mine enemies.


Following after the example of Jesus himself, Christians for centuries have maintained the tradition of saying “grace” or “thanks” before consuming a meal. It is a simple way of recognizing how God is the one who ultimately provides the food that we enjoy each and every day.

Xxx subham xxx

Why did Mother Earth Cry? Sangam Tamils and Valmiki explain! (Post No.3627)

Written by London swaminathan


Date: 11 FEBRUARY 2017


Time uploaded in London:- 13-25


Post No. 3627



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Sangam Tamil literature has got many poets with Sanskrit names such as Valmiki, Damodraran, Kesavan, Rudraksha, Kamakshi, Markanedyan etc. Most of the poems in Purananuru, oldest part of Sangam Tamil Literature, is full of Hindu themes, stories, similes, imageries, thoughts and views. In fact, there is no poem without one of these ideas. over 20 poets have Nagan as suffix in their names! This explodes the Aryan-Dravidian Racist theories.


There is a very interesting poem sung by Marakandeyanar (verse 365); when he was explaining the instability of the world, he said that the Mother Earth cried saying that she was like a courtesan; all the kings come and ‘enjoy’ her and go. one wouldn’t understand the meaning of this poem unless one reads Valamiki Ramayana.


The story of Mother Earth is in 36th Chapter of Bala Kanda in Ramayana:


Vishvamitra narrated the Story of Uma to Rama and Lakshmana. In the ancient times, Mahadeva married Uma and spent his time happily. But the Devas were worried that they had no issue for a long time. Devas wanted a powerful youth to get rid of the Asuras/demons. So they went to Shiva’s abode under the leadership of Brahma and told him their concern. Then Lord Shiva shed his semen which fell on earth. It covered the hills and forests. When the earth could bear no more, Devas asked the fire god Agni and Wind god Vayu to take it. They created a mountain called Shveta and a forest called Shara. Kartikeya was born from this Shara Vana (Vana= forest).


Though all the Devas were happy, Uma wan’t. Since she was bypassed in this matter she cursed Devas that they would remain childless. She cursed Mother Earth for accepting Shiva’s seeds, that she would never bear a son, but would have countless masters (Kings). This is the reason for Mother Earth’s crying.


Earth is considered Mother in Tamil and Sanskrit literature. Greeks borrowed this idea from the Hindus. The poet in the verse used other Puranic imageries such as Sun and Moon as eyes, sky as face, Diamond tool etc.