Hindus Migrate to Europe 8000 Years Ago! (Post No.3708)

Written by London swaminathan


Date: 9 March 2017


Time uploaded in London:- 20-08


Post No. 3708


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Nicholas Kazanas, a scholar from Athens has given amazing details about Hindus in his latest book “VEDIC AND INDO EUROPEAN STUDIES”. It is written for scholars with lot of linguistic studies and a layman can’t follow it easily. But he himself summarised beautifully well in the introduction. I will give only interesting points from the intro and the contents of the book.



AIT (Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory) is wrong. On the contrary Hindus went into Europe 8000 years ago. He quoted the following:

Genetics also has in the 2000 decade established beyond any doubt the fact that genes flowed into Europe from N W India (Gujarat, Rajsathan, Sindh); these are the R1a 1a and the M458 and they travelled north westward before 8000 years ago (see underhill 2010)

Emeneau’s Ignorance

M B Emeneau wrote in 1954 : “At some time in the second millennium BC a band or bands of an Indo European language, later to be called Sanskrit, entered India over the North West passes. This is our linguistic doctrine which has been held now for more than a century and a half. There seems to be no reason to distrust the arguments for it, in spite of the traditional Hindu ignorance of any such invasion”.

Nicholas, in his book says: “However it is Emeneau himself who suffers from ignorance, not the Hindu tradition. For only 12 years later, in 1966, an article by the eminent archealogist George Dale in the Scientific American showed beyond any doubt that there has been no invasion, no bloodshed, no conquest, no violence. Note, too, that Emeneau talks of a doctrine and arguments and not of data, evidence and facts. Now where as historians like A L Basham accepted it readily (1975), it took Western and many Indian Sanskritists to accept this fact and change the theory into one of peaceful immigration.


Date of Rig Veda 3500 BCE!

All modern texts on Sanskrit and ancient Indian literature refer to the chronological scheme set out by Max Muller in his History of Sanskrit Literature (1859). What they don’t say is how he arrived at this’


This scheme was based on a ghost story in Katha sarit sagara (composed in 1100 CE) which mentions a certain Katyayana. This person was identified by Muller with the sutra writer Kaatyaayana, placed in the third century BCE. Thus working from that date as his basis, he set up the following chronological scheme:

Chandas (RV) – 1200-1000 BCE

Mantras (Atharva, Yajus) – 1000-800 BCE

Brahmanas, Upanishads – 800-600 BCE

Sutras etc. – down to 200 BCE


This chronology came into criticism at that time ( by Goldstrucker, Whitney, Winternitz and others) and even Muller admitted that nobody could determine the dates of the Rig Vedic hymns which could be from 1500, 2000 or even 5000 BCE. But his earlier scheme stuck and is being taught today in all Western Universities and most Indian ones.

However, all archaeologists today, experts in the area of Saptasindhu (Allchin, Kenoyer, Poschel, Shaffer and many others), emphasize the unbroken continuity of the native culture from c.7000 to 600 BCE, when the Persians began to invade the region.

The Indo- Aryans are indigenous to Seven River region (Sapta Sindhu) what is today North West Pakistan and North West India, since there is no evidence for any intrusion into that area before 600 BCE. The Rig Veda was complete but for minor passages by 3100 BCE when the Harappan culture begins to arise


Consequently, I take it that Rig Veda was composed in the 4th millennium BCE at least, the Brahmanas and the Upanishads early in the 3rd and some of the Sutra texts 2500 BCE.


Egypt, Babylonia learnt Maths from India!


Of great significance are two articles by American historian of science A.Seidenberg wherein he argues that Egyptian, Babylonian and Greek mathematics derive from the Indic Sulbasutras of Apastamba and Baudhayana or a work like that, dated c 2000 BC as lower limit, thus furnishing totally independent evidence; in these he took account of the work of Neugebauer, Cantor et all. Seidenberg wrote of this original work: its mathematics was very much like what we see in the Sulabasutras. In the first place, it was associated with the ritual. Second, there was no dichotomy between number and magnitude. In geometry, it knew the Theorem of Pythagoras and how to convert a rectangle into a square. It knew the isosceles trapezoid and how to compute its area.

(Source: Vedic and Indo-European Studies by Nicholas Kazanas, Aditya Prakashan, New Delhi, year 2015)


—to be continued………………………



Happy Birth Day to you! Happy Birth Day to Earth!


The Big Blue Marble, our Earth, celebrated its 6017th birth day on 23rd October 2013!!! Unfortunately no cake was big enough for it. We have to prepare a birthday cake to the size of moon! Archbishop of Armagh James Ussher, concluded in 1654 that the Earth had been created on October 23, 4004 BC, making the Earth today 6017 years old! Christians believed that Adam (first man) had been crafted from dust on Day 6. White skinned European Christian scholars who strongly believed in these absurd calculations made big blunders in estimating the date of Hindu scriptures. They underestimated everything Hindu. Voracious readers would have noticed that these white skinned Indologists never criticized anything that is Christian, Muslim or Jew (All Semitic religions).


“Sahasra Koti Yuga Dharine Nama:”
While followers of other religions were standing in the street corners and singing the glory of Our Lord, Hindu children were reciting Vishnu Sahasra Nama stotra/hymn (Part of Mahabharata), which praised Vishnu who sustains the universe for 10,000 million yugas. The interesting thing about Yuga is that a Chathur yuga is 4,32,000 years. So this line –SAHASRA KOTI YUGADHARINE NAMA: from Vishnu Sahasra Nama Hymn—means 10,000 million X 4,32,000 years.

All these numbers are just symbolic. Because Hindus believe that God is beyond time (Kalathrayaatheetha:). Vishnu Sahasranama says God is Bhootha BHavya Bhavath Prabhu:–meaning ‘He is the master of three phases of time—the past, the present and the future’. Hindus knowledge in mathematics is amazing. Their knowledge about TIME is more amazing (I have already written about it in my two part article Hindus’ Future Predictions and Time Travel by Two Tamil Saints).

Hindu calculation of Manvantara approximately coincides with the time of Big Bang which happened 14 billion years ago. Now we are living in the 14th manvantara which is repeated by all the Hindus on Puja days (in the Sankalpa). Brahmins say that “we do the ritual on such and such day in the 14th manvanatara i.e.Vaivasvata Manvantare”.


We come across Sanskrit words Sahasra (1000) and Koti (ten million) in Tamil and Sanskrit literature innumerable times. Famous Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar in his Tirukkural used ‘koti/crore’, seventy crores (couplet 639)and crores after crores in many couplets. The crores after crores phrase (Adukkiya Koti) may mean a bigger number!

Even before the astronomers wrote in science books that there are millions of galaxies and millions of suns, Hindu children were singing a Ganapati sloka/hymn with the words ‘Surya Koti samaprabha’ meaning brightness equal to 10 million suns.

Viveka Cudamani of Adi Shankara has a sloka that says human birth is rare and liberation is attained except through the well earned merits of a hundred crores of births (1000 million births). Hindus recite these numbers in their day to day hymns. Unless the general public is familiar with the decimal system and mathematics in general, poets like Vyasa, Shankara and Tiruvalluvar would not have used these BIG numbers in their hymns.

Decimal System

Decimal system was the biggest contribution of Hindus to the humanity. If any one takes a highlighter and underlines the decimal numbers such as 100, 1000, 100,000 in the oldest religious book Rig Veda, one will find out the whole book is highlighted,almost every page. Without decimal system mankind would not have made any progress in the field of sciences. Even the curse in the Story of Vikramaditya and Vetal, we see the decimal system- ‘your head will blow in to 100 pieces’.

Before the Hindu numerals reached Europe through the Arabs, they were using Roman numerals. We can see these numerals on all old buildings in Europe. It caused great difficulties and chaos. Nowadays even European children can’t read these Roman numbers. They can only understand Hindu numerals (1,2,3,4,5,6 etc).

If one reads an article about BLACK HOLES in a science magazine and then read the Viswa Rupa Darsana (Chapter 11 of Bhagavad Gita), a better understanding of TIME( as Hindus see) would emerge.

Please read my earlier articles on Numbers:
1)Hindu’s Magic Numbers 18, 108, 1008 (Posted on 26 November 2011)
2)MOST HATED NUMBERS 666 and 13 (Posted on 29 July 2012)
3)Amazing TAMIL Mathematics (Posted on 8 August 2012)

Roman Year 1606 in Roman letters.

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Please note that different calculation for Yugas is followed by some people.