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Date uploaded in London – –10 NOVEMBER 2020   

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Gnanamayam is broadcasting every Monday Hindu news round up from around the world via zoom and facebook.com/gnanamyam. In addition to two news bulletins in Tamil and English it features Hindu scholars and their achievements. Sri Suresh from Bangalore also spoke about his book on the Vedas. Mr Desikan from Bangalore, who has been a regular contributor to newspapers like Deccan Herald spoke about his attachment with inanimate objects. All the three talks were well received and we had 800 hits even during the one hour session.

As usual it was followed by Mr Nagarajan’s Q and A programme and talks by Dr Narayanan Kannan and Mrs Brhannayaki Sathyanarayanan.

London swaminathan, former BBC broadcaster, now News Editor of Gnanamayam, London presented the programme.

Some Highlights

Sri Suresh from Bengaluru explained the uniqueness of his book ‘A BRIEF HISTORY OF VEDAS’. It is unique indeed in many respects. He has given all the names with descriptions of all the branches (shakas/chapters) of the four Vedas, names of over  140 Upanishads, the missing Vedic Chapters (shakas), the difference between Charana and Shaka, names of all the Seers (Rishis), flow chart of the Vedic literature, Ganapatam of certain hymns. In short it is a handy reference book for Vedic literature covering from Samhitas to Sutras.

When Devas and Asuras churned the Milky Ocean fourteen treasures came out of it. When Sureshji churned the Vedic Ocean over 280 treasures came out and all these are found in the book.

For further details please visit

Here are the relevant links you can show/share in the video and in the description.

1. Video About the book – A Brief History of Vedas: https://youtu.be/INyneGhFW6I

2. Order the book (Within India): https://rzp.io/l/briefhistoryofvedasbook

3. Order the book (Outside India): https://forms.gle/2DLpLqv4sVm2BZt2A


Dharma Yoga by Dr R N and Mohan and Kala Bhaskar

Dr Nagaswamy needs no introduction. He is a renowned scholar, historian, archeaologist who has travelled around the world lecturing in all famous universities. He is Former Director of Archaeology, Tamil Nadu, former VC of two Universities, author of scores of books and hundreds of research papers, presenter of many dramas on Appar, Sundarar, Manimegalai, Rajendra Cholza in London and American cities, and who rescued the Sivapuram Nataraja from Britain after successfully arguing in Old Bailey in London. Above all, at the age of 91 he is bringing out authoritative research works which includes the latest Dharma Yoga, co- authored by his daughter Dr Kala Bhaskar and son Mohan Nagaswamy (USA).

Here are some interesting titbits from the book:–

Rev G U Pope and others have shown that the Tamil Veda Tirukkural has translation of at least 50 slokas from Manu Smrti and more from Bhagavad Gita.

Manu smrti was hailed as a great Law book for 1400 years in Indian Inscriptions.

A lot of the coins found from different parts of Asia show the influence of Hindu law books and culture.

Choza Emperors boasted that they never swerved away from Manu Neeti. One of the great Choza Kings projected himself as the reincarnation of Manu.

Manu Smrti is referred to in Inscriptions in South East Asia and other parts of Asia.

The first Constitution in the world is Manu Smrti; it is all comprehensive. Tirukkural followed same order of subjects found in Manu Smrti.

Laws and abiding law were found in 1400 BCE in Mitanni and Hittite agreements in Babylonia and Sumeria. The inscription is preserved in the British Museum in London.

In short, Nagaswamy’s latest book ‘Dharma Yoga’ contains encyclopaedic information about influence of Manu Smrti through out Asia, with evidence from coins and inscriptions.

Dr Nagaswamy cannot be countered easily by anyone, because all his books, produced so far, have authoritative information.

Scholars find a rare combination of talents in him. He is a scholar in three languages Tamil, Sanskrit and English.

Gnanamayam has requested Dr R N to speak about his new findings every week

(In private conversation over phone he told the Gnanamayam team that he would explain the famous saying of great Tamil Saint Manikkavasagar “Tennaattudaiya Sivane Potri” (Siva belongs to South India or South India, the Land of Siva).


DESIKAN, Defence Department Research Scientist

Mr V. Desikan of Bengaluru was a known scientist in his field of defence research. A contributor to Deccan Herald and author of Brindavan Express, spoke about his rare love and attachment towards inanimate objects. But one of the rare objects with which he fell in love was praised by the scholars as an engineering marvel. It is a big vehicle called Sangam. A man from Madurai aptly named the Science Vehicle as Sangam ( Madurai Tamil Sangam is as ancient as Tamil Language). His Tamil talk is blogged here separately)

Gnanamayam requested him to talk about all the subjects he has covered in his book Brindavan Express.

His five minute talk was like a golden nugget. We may expect more golden nuggets and gems during the next few weeks.

Mr Nagarajan answered a question on Inter Galactic Travel in Puranas. Revati Nakshatra/star story gives very clear indication of the knowledge about Theory of Time Dilation. Even before Einstein and other scholars , we have such rare refences to Time Dilation.

Dr Narayanan Kannan put forth two new thoughts about the Tamil Drum called ‘Parai’. Since it gave the derogatory term Pariah , people think it is connected with death and inauspicious happenings. But the ancient Tamil literature is noticeably clear in describing it as an instrument used during auspicious ceremonies. The second point he made was that Vaishnavism has no caste distinctions. Even before revolutionary Ramanuja appeared, Nammalvar, who was a Shudra, was held in high esteem.  Vaishnavites gave him the highest status in their worship.

Dr N Kannan, a chemistry professor, is well versed in Tamil Vaishnavite literature and co-founder of Tamil Heritage Foundation.

Mrs Brhannayaki Sathyanarayanan from Bengaluru has started a new series of talks in Gnanmayam. Last week she gave a beautiful description of Mookambika Temple in Kollur and this week she presented the Sri Sailam Siva Temple, one of the 12 Jyotir Linga Shrines.

In the beginning Mrs Sujatha Rengamathan of London and Mrs Vaishnavi Anand of Hayes, Greater London presented World Hindu News Round up in English and Tamil. Needamangalam Mrs Jeyashri Umashankar recited the prayer.

Gnanamayam’s Producer – News Editor London Swaminthan, Co Producer Sri Kalyana Sundara Sivacharyar and Studio Manager Harrow Sridhar gave all the publicity for the success of Gnanamyam broadcast.

NEVER FORGET MONDAYS 1 PM London Time, 6-30 PM Indian Time. We are there Every Monday.

tags — Dharma Yoga, Dr R Nagaswamy, Suresh, Desikan


Birds for finding Direction: Sumerian to Tamil Nadu via Indus Valley

Birds for finding Direction: Sumerian to Tamil Nadu via Indus Valley

Birds were used by ancient mariners to find the land while they were in the mid seas. After the use of compasses, this was not practised. Very Interesting references are found in Sumerian culture, Indus valley, Biblical story, Viking expeditions and Tamil literature. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and several other saints also used this bird as a simile in their religious discourses. We have an Indus Valley tablet containing a boat with two birds on either side. Tamil Vaishnavite saints used this simile in their poems. Let us look at Sumerian culture first.


Utnapishtim was the survivor of a great deluge sent by the gods to destroy the human race. Akkadian epic of Gilgamesh says that God Enlil was angry with humanity and decided to destroy them in a flood. Utnapishtim told Gilgamesh to build a boat. When the waters receded he sent a dove, a swallow and a raven to find land.


We have a similar story in the Bible. In the Flood story Noah sent a raven and then two doves to find the land.

Genesis 8:7-9 (Old Testament)

7:And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.

8:Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;


Indus Valley Tablet

A three sided tablet was found in 1931 in the Indus valley excavations. This shows a flat bottomed boat with a central hut and two birds on the deck. The birds were used as aids in the navigation. When they were released, they would not come back if they find land.

Vikings were powerful mariners. They also kept birds to find new lands. Since birds have powerful eye sight they can see lands from a distance of hundred miles. If they see any land they will fly in that direction and the sailors would sail their ships towards the land. Vikings were even credited with discovering America, probably with the help of ravens.


Tamil Literature

Hindus look at this direction finding birds from a different angle. Kulasekara Alvar of ninth century sang a poem on Vishnu. He says that he also comes back to the lotus feet of the lord like a bird that couldn’t find the land. A strange coincidence is that he and other Tamil saints mention only crow as the bird for finding the direction. It is similar to the raven of Sumerian and Biblical stories.

Swami Sri Vedanta Desikan who lived around 1300 AD also sang a poem on Vishnu in Kanchipuram. He also used the same simile like Kulasekara. He compared himself to a crow of flying aimlessly in different directions and returning to the same place without finding a place to rest.

Ramkrishna Parmahamsa compared the disciples who move away from their Gurus and come back at last to the same Guru:

“A bird perching upon the masthead of a ship in mid ocean, gets tired of its position and flies away to discover a new place of rest; but failing to find any other place, it returns at last to the old roost, weary and exhausted. In the same manner an ordinary aspirant is disgusted with the monotony of of the task and discipline imposed upon him by his well wishing and thoroughly experienced Guru. He loses all his hopes as well as confidence in the Guru and so goes out in to the world with the belief that he can attain God with his self effort alone; but after much fruitless exertion he is sure to return to his old master for his blessing and grace at last”.

The bird on the masthead of the ship has been in the minds of Indians for thousands of years. This continuity made me believe that it was an Indian custom which was borrowed by the Sumerians and the Biblical Noah.


References for Tamil Readers:

‘’வெங்கண்திண் களிறு அடர்த்தாய்! வித்துவகோட்டம்மானே

எங்குப் போய் உய்கேன்? உன் இணையடியே அடையல் அல்லால்

எங்கும் போய்க் கரை காணாது எறிகடல்வாய் மீண்டு ஏயும்

வங்கத்தின் கூம்பு ஏறும் மாப் பறவை போன்றேனே’’

(பெருமாள் திருமொழி, குலசேகர ஆழ்வார்)


‘’பத்தி முதலாமவற்றில் பதியெனக்குக் கூடாமல்

எத்திசையும் உழன்றோடி இளைத்துவிழும் காகம் போல்

முத்திதரு நகரேழில் முக்கியமாம் கச்சிதன்னில்

அத்திகிரி அருளார்க்கு அடைக்கலம் நான் புகுந்தேனே’’

(அடைக்கலப் பத்து, சுவாமி ஸ்ரீ தேசிகன்)


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