Nine Muses in Greece and Nine Ceremonies in China (Post No.7150)

Compiled by  London Swaminathan

Date: 28 OCTOBER 2019

Time  in London – 15-40

Post No. 7150

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In ancient China  the number nine wasimportant in tne I Ching and in the Book of Rituals ( (Li Chi), which speaks o  nine ceremonies and they are-

Puberty rite for men







Drinking and

Military rituals

In the Han dynasty a nine based cosmology was for favoured.

The ninth day of the ninth month  was a men’s festival of ‘yang raised to a higher power.

There were nine earthly provinces, nine mountains, nine fields of heaven and so on.

The center of Beujing had 8 roads leading in to it , and these added to the one central point, made for a similar nonary structure.

In the West, there were nine orders of angels, nine cosmic spheres  in medieval cosmology, nine muses.

Greeks have also chosen Goddesses for the arts and poetry like Hindus.

The Muses are the nine goddesses of the arts, history and astronomy in Greece. The muses were not highlighted in mythologies, but writers and poets invoke them like Hindus before writing a book or performing dance and music. They are the source of inspiration for them like Goddess of Knowledge Saraswati or Goddess of wisdom, Ganesh.

Muses were among the retinue of the god Apollo, the patron of music and the arts. They were said to reside on Mount Helicon near Thebes or on Mount Parnassus near Delphi (Like Kailash or Mount Meru of Hindu Mythology).

Their names and branches of arts they preside over are as follows:

Name                        Meaning                              Arts

Calliope                         Beautiful voice                    Epic Poetry

Clio                                Fame                                      History

Erato                             Lovely                                    Lyric Poetry

Euterpe                         Joy                                          The Flute

Melpomene                   Singing                                  Tragic Drama

Polyhymnia                   Many Songs                         Mime

Terpsichore                   Joyful dance                             Dance

Thalia                            Good Cheer/Plenty            Comic Drama

Urania                             Celestial                               Astronomy


Idioms and phrases

We say that a cat has nine lives and a person who is ‘dressed to the nines’ in wearing his or her most elaborate finery.

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 Date: 24 AUGUST 2019  

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Post No. 6928

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Seven Sisters in Melbourne, Australia

Seven in Rig Veda

Seven is the most sacred number for Hindus. Anything holy, they count in seven, whether it is hills, rivers, forests, cities, holy women or holy men to remember (sapta kanya, sapta nadhi, sapta Rishi, sapta mokshapuri, sapta aranya etc). Seven is found in largest number of seals in Indus valley. The Seven Sister seal in the Indus is a famous one. Most of the Hindu temples have Sapt Kanya/ seven women statues in South India. The story of Seven Sisters is there in several parts of the world from Australian aborigines to ancient Greeks.

Mr Dave even identified seven birds in Rig Veda as seven sisters known to Bengalis (Bengalis call these seven birds as seven sisters). Birds in Sanskrit Literature by K.N Dave

Varunan with seven sisters is found in Rik Veda 8-41

Seven rivers of Punjab are mentioned in Rig Veda as Sapta Sindhu.

“Seven to the one-wheeled chariot yoke the Courser ;bearing seven names the single Courser draw it.

Three-naved the wheel is, sound and undecaying, whereon are still resting alhese worlds of being.”- 1-164-2

“The seven who on the seven wheeled car are mounted to have horses, seven in tale, who draw them onward.

Seven sisters utter songs of praise together, in whom the names of the seven cows are treasured.”- 1-164-3

Seven Sisters seal is found in the Indus valley civilisation as well.

The Seven: according to Sayana, the seven solar rays, or seven divisions of the year.

Seven sisters: Probably the seven celestial rivers, which as emblems of fertility may bear the name of cows.

Seven Vedic Metres including Gayatri are mentioned by the poet.

Hymn 1-164

Dirgatamas’ hymn 1-164 is one of the longest hymns the Rig Veda. He talks about various subjects in a coded language with lot of symbolism.

In the hymn, mantra 24 refers to the seven speeches

Mantra 24 points out that this faculty of speech is found only in the human beiges.

Mantra 45 gives information about the divisions of speech. Grammarian Patanjali and others also discussed this in detail.

Hymn 4-58

Patanjali referred to part of this hymn. The four parts of speech are explained here. Patanjali discusses seven cases and the three originating centres of pronunciation.

Hymn 8-59

Some of the most prominent observations of this hymn are as follows:

The ultimate truth is brought forth through the medium of seven-fold speech

These seven folds or divisions of speech are seven sisters of the ultimate truth

Speech protects us through its seven physical and three temporal divisions. And

three chief aspects of speech-behaviour are mental, and intellectual faculties, coupled with the acquired knowledge.

Hymn 10-71

This hymn is most important and is solely devoted to the linguistic observations alone, some of which are as follows:

An initial expression of name is indicative of a wholesome integrated expression of the accumulated ideas in the speaker’s mind. Thus, it originates as a representative of complete statement.

The emotions are desires of the Self are filtered in the mind, from where it takes the shape of words or speech, which is expressed externally with the help of the articulatory forces.

Thus, a word takes its usable form first in one’s mind which is then pronounced from seven places and in different tones.

Speech and language are not only the objects ears and eyes alone; no one can understand it without the help of mind, the sharpness of otherwise of which makes the difference in one’s power of understanding.

With only training and knowledge, we can learn the correct usage of the language and avoid its misuse, generated mostly from our ignorance.

Hymn 10-114

In at least six verses of this hymn, different aspects of linguistic phenomenon have been discussed. In the fourth and fifth verses, the principle of multiple exprepressibility of one and the same truth has been stressed explicitly. The seventh verse declares that the seven fold speech is capable to express all expressible forms.


Story from Australia:

Seven wandering ancestral heroines of the Dream time, also referred to their aboriginal name KUNGARANKALPA. The complete route of the sisters has been pieced together from stories told about them by different aboriginal clans living along its course. On reaching the southern coast, the seven sisters went in to the sea and then leaped in to the sky. Once in the sky they became the constellation KURIYALA (The Pleiades). Hindus call this six Krithikas. Westerners call this constellation Seven Sisters. This tallies somewhat with Hindu counting One Skanda+looked after by six sisters=seven).

Ancient San Rock paintings in South Africa have seven women as a group.


King and Scholar: Who is Powerful? Post No. 2403


Compiled by London swaminathan

Date: 18 December 2015


Post No. 2403


Time uploaded in London: 19-41

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Anecdote from China:



The famous First Emperor of the Chin Dynasty (221-206 BC) was snubbed by the scholarly envoy of a very small state. It happened in this way.


Chin having arbitrarily proposed to the small state to exchange a piece of territory, the latter being unwilling, commissioned an envoy to Chin to explain matters to the emperor who was at the height of his power.  At the audience, which seemed to be a tête-à-tête conference, the following incident took place:–



The emperor, suddenly losing his temper said, “Have you ever heard of anger of an emperor?”


“No, Your Majesty”, replied the envoy.


“When an emperor is in anger, said the emperor, there will be a million corpses lying about with blood flowing a thousand miles”.


“Has Your Majesty, asked the envoy, ever heard of the anger of a plain scholar?”


“The anger of the scholar, answered the emperor, can mean no more than taking off his hat and shoes, and knocking his head against the ground.”


“No Your Majesty, said the envoy, This is the anger only of a fool, not that of a scholar”.


After saying this, in highly poetical diction, he recited graphically three well known but not far distant historical instances where unworthy reigning princes were openly slain by scholars. At the end of the citation he calmly exclaimed,


“Now I am going to add my name as the fourth to the list. When a scholar is in anger, there will be only two corpses lying about with blood flowing within five steps. Today is the day when the whole Empire shall be in mourning”. Thereupon he rose with his sword in hand. The Emperor, visibly affected, forthwith knelt before his interlocutor saying,


“Please sit down, Master. Why should things be like this? I understand now. The fact that (larger states like) Haan and Wei have perished, while (a small state like) yours survives is merely because it has (men like) you, Master”.