Manu, not only a Law Maker but also a Great Botanist! (Post No.4375)

Written by London Swaminathan 


Date: 7 NOVEMBER 2017


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Post No. 4375

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Manu Smrti, law book written by Manu, talks about lot of subjects which makes it a Hindu Encyclopaedia. Manu was not only a law maker but also a scientist. Though some of his theories may not hold good today, he was the precursor of several scientific theories.


One of the greatest Indian plant scientists was Jagadish Chandra Bose. Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose’s greatest achievement was his invention of the crescograph, which allowed scientists to discover how the seasons and external stimuli affected plant life.

The scientist worked tirelessly to chart how chemical inhibitors, temperature and light change the way plants grow, and advise humans on how to better care for vegetation.

It paved the way for scientists to better understand how to cultivate crops in a more effective way, and encouraged people to take better care of plant life. In one particular report, Bose wrote that he believed plants “feel pain and understand affection” just as much as humans do. But even before Bose, Manu has said about the feeling of plants!

His famous quotation was that ‘don’t even throw a rose flower on your lady love because the rose flower will be hurt’.

Manu must have lived long ago. Though the updated Manu Smriti available now is dated around second century BCE, he lived during the Rig Vedic days. He talks about the Saraswati River, which disappeared later. So the original Manu Smrti must be dated around 2000 BCE. Moreover, like the Rig Veda he never mentioned Sati, the widow burning.


About plants he says,

“All the plants that grow from the seed or node are borne from shoots; herbs are those that bear many flowers and fruits and then die with the ripening of the fruit.

“Trees that have fruit but no flowers are traditionally known as the Lords of the Forest; those that bear both flowers and fruit are called trees.

“The various sorts of plants that have one root and those with many roots, the different species of grasses and climbing vines and creepers all grow from a seed or a shoot.



–Chapter 1, Manu Smrti


Grass (laid down for a resting place), space (to rest), water and pleasant conversation – these four things never run out in the house of good people- Manu 3-101

From Manu’s days pious people were doing penance sitting on the mat made up of Dharba grass.—3-208


If we believe that Manu lived in the Sarasvati River period, he is the first man to classify plants; he is the first one to talk about the consciousness of plants. He is the first to write about numerous plants. If we put all the plant facts from the Vedas, Brahmanas and Manu Smrti together, we will know how much the ancient Hindus studied the plants.


My old article:-


‘Save the Trees’ and ‘Save the Forests’ in Manu Smrti!(Post No.3043)


Research Article Written by london swaminathan

Date: 7th    August 2016

Post No. 3043

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( Thanks for the Pictures)

The topics Manu covers in his Law book are amazing. He makes passing remarks on several things; since ancient people know all these things he takes them for granted. Let us look at the couplets where he mentioned the trees, saving the trees, sacred trees and saving the forests.


If a Brahmin cuts the fruit trees, shrubs, vines, , creepers or  flowering plants , a thousand Vedic verses should be chanted – Manu 11-143


Cutting down green trees for fire wood, undertaking acts for one’s own sake only and eating forbidden food  are minor crimes — Manu 11-65


Assembly halls, road side watering places, cake-stalls, whore houses wine shops , SACRED TREES, cross roads, crowds and places where people assemble for spectacles, GARDENS, ARTIFICIAL GROVES MUST BE WATCHED FOR THIEFS –9-265

Trees that have fruit but no flowers are traditionally known as the Lords of the Forest; those that bear flowers and fruits are called trees–  Manu 1-47


The various sorts of plants that have one root and those with many roots , the different species of grasses and climbing vines and creepers all grow from a seed or a shoot. — Manu 1-48




The belt of a priest should be made up of smooth, three ply rushes; of a ruler it should be a bow string of hemp fibre; and of a commoner, a thread of hemp.

If rushes are unattainable, the belt should be made up of kusa asmantaka or balbaja (Eleusine Indica).

The initiatory thread of a Brahmin should be made up of cotton; of a ruler it should be made up of hemp threads and of a commoner it should be of wool threads.

A priest’s staff should be made up of wood apple (Aegle Marmelos)and the palasa (Butea Frondosa);

A ruler’s of banyan (Ficus Indica) and acacia (Acacia Catechu);

A commoner’s of palm (Careya Arborea) and fig (Ficus Udumbara).

Height of the Staff of a priest – – up to his hair

King = up to his forehead

Commoner = up to his nose

–Chapter 2 of Manu smrti


Sitting on a kusa grass mat is mentioned in 2-75


Grass laid down for a resting place, space to rest, water and pleasant conversation – these four things never run out in the house of good people – 3-101


Priests should sit on a seat of sacrificial grass/ kusa—3-208.

Kusa grass and mat made up of Kusa grass are emtioned in several places.

Weights made up of krsnala seeds (Kundu mnani in Tamil) are found in the book.

It is good to see so many plants names in a Law Book.



From these passages we come to know:-

Cutting trees is a crime;

Preserving trees is encouraged;

Sacred trees were there in every town;

Gardens and artificial groves were there;

Temples and Kiosks/stalls were constructed underneath huge trees.

Like Tamil kings had three different trees for each of them, three castes have different trees.

Even before the Westerners classified the plants, Hindus divided them into various groups.


Please read my research articles posted here earlier: –

Flowers in Tamil Culture, posted on 25 August 2012


Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant , posted on 5 May 2013


107 Miracle Herbs in the Hindu Vedas, posted on 16 September 2013 


255 Indian trees, herbs and flowers mentioned in Brhat Samhita Part-1, posted 21 February 2015


255 Indian trees, herbs and flowers mentioned in Brhat Samhita Part-2, posted on 23 February 2015


Amazing Medical information in Hindu Vedas, posted here on 18 June 2015


Jangida Mystery in Atharva Veda , posted on 29 December 2014


Hindus’ Amazing Knowledge in Botany, posted here on 20 July 2014


Knowledge of Biology in Hindu scriptures, posted on 10 February 2013


Dynasties with Plant names and Dynasty in Shiva’s Bilva tree name, posted on 24 January 2015


Lord Shiva and Tamils adopted Trees, posted on 6 July 2013



Hindus’ respect for trees and forests , posted on 18 February 2015


Cucumber in the Rig Veda






Granite tree in a Tamil Temple; posted by Lalgudi Veda

Written by London Swaminathan 


Date: 6 NOVEMBER 2017


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Post No. 4371

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(First part was posted yesterday)


Picture of a sacred tree in Varanasi


The Gods and the Asuras, both of them sprung from Prajapati, strove together. The gods, having placed Agni in the front, went up to the Asuras.  The Asuras cut off the point of that flame held forward. It settled down on this earth and became that Krimuka tree; hence it is sweet, for there is vital essence in it. Hence also it is red, for it is a flame, that Krimuka tree being the same as Agni; it is in the shape of fire that he imparts growth to it- Satapata Brahmana 6-6-2-11


When Prajapati performed the first offering, a Vinkankata tree (Flacouritas apida) sprang forth from that place where, after offering, he cleansed his hand  –6-6-3-1


“When the gods and Asuras, both of them sprung from Prajapati, strove together, all the trees sided with the Asuras, but  the Udumbara tree alone did not forsake the gods. The gods having conquered the Asuras took possession of their trees. They said, ‘come let us lay into the Udumbara tree whatever pith, whatever vital sap, there is in these trees; were they then to desert us they would desert us worn out like a milked-out cow or like an ox that has been tired out drawing the cart. Accordingly they laid into the Udumbara tree what pith and essence there was in those trees; and on account of that it matures fruit  equal to all other trees; hence that tree is always moist, always full of milky sap- that Udumbara tree indeed, being all the trees, is all food—Sat Br. 6-3-2-3


Aitareya Brahmana also gives the same story (1-23)


(VERY IMPORTANT POINT: Gods and Asuras came from Brahma/Prajapati. Foreigners wont highlight this point anywhere in their writings; those cunning and conspiring people wanted to project Asuras as aborigines or Dravidians. Throughout Hindu literature, Asuras, Rakshasas or so called Shudras are shown as children of same father and mother)


“Trees were temples of Divinities, and in the old way the simple country folk to this day dedicate any remarkable tree to a god”—Pliny in Natural History 12-3

Pliny (23-79 CE) was a Roman scholar and his Natural History reflected the Hindu views on Trees.


Persian Poet Haafiz praised the trees too,

“Mark where yon tree rewards the stony shower

With fruit nectareous, or the balmy flower,

All nature calls aloud, ‘Shall man do less

Than heal the smiter and the railer bless?”

Posted by Lalgudi Veda, Vellerukku, Siddhavatam

In India that is Hindustan all life is sacred. Hindus are believers in the law of continuity, for in their creed the life of gods is connected with that of demons, the life of demons  with men, the life of men with animals, the life of animals with that of trees and plants, the life of plants with a supposed life in rocks and stones, and the divine soul is thought to permeate all. There is no break anywhere. Tamil Saints like Manikkavasagar sings about several births of soul from stone to man. According to Hindus, all plants are conscious beings, having distinct personalities and souls of their own as gods, demons, men and animals (Manu 1-49).


Good spirits and demons occupy the trees. They may often resort to it as guests or take up their abode as tenants.


There is a firm belief that certain trees are demon haunted. Tamils believe that demons occupy Tamarind trees. However it is necessary to make clear  distinction between sacred trees and trees feared as the home of evil spirits. Hindus worship trees out of fear or out of its sacredness. Another reason for the worship of trees is their wonderful utility in daily life. Their shade is grateful in a hot climate. Their wood is the source of fuel/fire. Their fruits, juices are bark have medicinal and curative properties. Plamyra palm or Coconut tree of south India has over fifty distinct uses.

Huge banyan trees are assembling point for vendors, gossip mongers, Assembly Hall and Court House of the village communities. It becomes the abode of village god or Ganesh in South India.

Kuruntha Tree, Avudayar Koil, by Lalgudi Veda




In the olden days a Hindu who plants a grove of mango trees will not take the fruit f the mango tree before they have been married to another kind of tree, usually a tamarind tree, sometimes an acacia or even a jasmine plant which is planted in the grove. It is done only when the mango tree reaches fruit bearing stage. In the same way a tank is married to a plantain tree.


The tree worship began in Vedic age. We see a whole Mandala of Rig Veda is devoted to Soma (plant) worship. Pipal tree is worshipped from the Vedic days. Rishis/ seers are named after Pipal trees. Buddha, born as a devoted Hindu, did penance under the pipal tree (Bodhi).  Parijata came form the ocean when demons/ Asuras and Devas/angels churned the milky ocean.


Tree worship is seen among tribal Hindus as well; in the Birbhum district annual pilgrimage is made to shrine in the jungle to leave offerings to a Bel tree.


The custom of hanging votive offerings or rags or threads on the trees is of great antiquity. It is seen from Kashmir to Kanyakumari.

Kadamba  Tree in Chir Ghat, Yamuna River

This custom existed in other parts of the world as well; names like Holyoake, Hollywood recall the English worship of trees and groves.


Ovid (43 BCE), the Roman poet, says,

“There stood a mighty oak of age-long strength

Festooned with garlands, bearing on its trunk

Memorial tablets, proofs of helpful vows”

–Metamorphoses, 8-741, also Fasti 3-267


This Hindu custom was prevalent in different parts of the world; now we can see such pictures in museums or in their literature; but in Hindu India, where it originated, is still practised!!


The famous Bodhi tree in Gaya (Bihar, India) and its sister trees in Sri Lanka, Tamarind tree of Tansen and Nammalvar, Banyan Tree of Lord Krishna and Panchavati (five Banyan trees) of Lord Rama are some examples. There are hundreds of trees like these throughout India Every Tamil temple has a tree worshipped in its complex.

A pilgrim under a tree

Classical analogies of tree deities are found in many places: Daphne turned into a laurel that Apollo honours for her sake, and the sorrowing sisters of Phaethon changing into trees, yet still dropping blood and crying for mercy when their shoots are torn”

–Metamorphoses of Ovid 1-452, 2-345


Like I have pointed out earlier, they are all in old literature or museums in other parts of the world; In India, Hindus practise it even today and worship all the nature as God; and India is not primitive; it is the first developing country to send a spaceship into sky; it is the first developing country to explode a nuclear device. it is the country with highest number of computer personnel.





Ganesh with Dhurva Grass (Arukam Pul in Tamil)




Written by London Swaminathan


Date: 5 NOVEMBER 2017


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Post No. 4368

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Origin of vegetation on the earth explained in the Aitareya Brahmana (5-23):

“The earth is the Queen of the Serpents, for she is the queen of all that moves (sarpat). She was in the beginning without hair (without grasses, bushes, trees etc). She then saw the mantra of the Rig Veda (10-189) which commences with

‘This spotted Bull (the sun) hath come, and sat before the mother (the Earth) in the East

Advancing to his Father, Heaven. ‘As expiration from his breath, his radiance penetrates within’.


In consequence of it she (the Earth) obtained a motely appearance, she became variegated, being able to produce any form she might like, such as herbs, trees and all other forms. Therefore, the man who has such a knowledge obtains the faculty of assuming any form he might choose.”


The origin of Durva grass, of which much is made in connection with Hindu sacrifices, is described as follows:

“The Hair of Prajapati, which were lying n the ground when he was disjointed, became herbs. The vital air then went out from within him, and that having gone out, he fell down. He said, ‘Verily this vital air has undone me!’ and because he said, ‘it has undone (dhurve) me’, hence  the name Durva; durva doubtless being what is mystically called Durva, FOR THE GODS LOVE THE MYSTIC”—- Satapata Brahmana 7-4-2-11/12


Concept of ‘body being Microcosm and the Earth being Macrocosm was borrowed by the Greeks from the Hindus; so plants are equal to hair, blood vessels are equal to rivers etc.


The second point to be noticed is Gods love the Mystic, hence queer names and strange explanations. This means they dot speak straight forward language. So one must be careful in translating or interpreting.


The third point is reasoning out is found in the Vedic period itself. People named different plants differently on the basis of certain things.


“He then places a bunch of Dharba grass (Kusa) on the middle of the altar site; for the gods then placed plants thereon, and in like manner does the sacrifice, now place thereon- — Satapata Brahmana 7-2-3-1


The reference in the next quotation is to the legend of Indra’s killing of Vritra, when the waters, disguised by his putrefying carcase, rose and flowed over —– Satapata Brahmana 1-1-3-5

“Whence spring these grasses of which the strainers are made; for they represent the water which was not putrified; in 7-3-2-3, we read of ‘Stalks of Kusa grass, for these are pure, and sacrificially clean……….. for the top is sacred to the gods.


Unclean Plants

There were plants , which are sacrificially unclean; it is said that Greek Philosopher Pythagoras banned beans and fasting Roman Catholics banned certain food.


Vedas allowed Forest Plants and Fruits of trees:

“Let him therefore eat only what grows in the forest or the fruit of trees. Barku Varsha said, ‘Cook beans for me, for no offering is made of them! This, however, he should not do; for pulse serves as an addition to rice and barley; and hence they increase the rice and barley by means of it; let him therefore eat only what grows in the forest —– Satapata Brahmana 1-1-1-10


Referring to the same incident in Prajapati’s life, we read the origin of Udembara tree —– Satapata Brahmana 7-4-1-39

“When Prajapati was relaxed, Agni took Prajapati’s fiery spirit and carried it off to the south, and there stopped; and because after carrying (karsh) it off, t stopped (ud-ram), therefore Karshmarya sprang up. And Indra took Prajapati’s igour and wet away to the noth; it became the Udumbara tree”

(Fig and its varieties)


In Vishnu Sahsranama Nyagroda, Udumbara and Asvatta are worshipped as Vishnu. All these belong to Ficus family.


The bathing chair of Udumbara wood figures prominently in Taittiriya sBrahmana 2-6-5, where we find an address to to it and another to the leather spread upon it, a mantra to be repeated when sitting upon the chair, another after sitting thereon, another when descending rom chair, another inaudibly after descending from the chair, and no end of others in the course of the bathing, including many addressed to Agni and the Sun; some of which may be heard uttered to this day on the banks of the Ganges or other bathing places.


When Hindus couldn’t get the Udumbara wood they replaced it with a bundle of Dhurva grass. The details are given in Taittiriya Brahmana2-7-9-10/11


Tomorrow I will give the stories of Krimuka and Viekantka Trees


—-to be continued






Written by London Swaminathan


Date: 27 October 2017


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Post No. 4341

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Water occupies a pre-eminent position among the five elements, in the Hindu scriptures. A Hindu cannot survive without water. From birth to death every ceremony is done with the help of water. Brahmins cannot survive without water. So they lived on the banks of the rivers. Even today all the Brahmin streets called Agraharams are on the banks of the rivers. This poohpoohed the theory of half-baked people like Max Mullers and Caldwells who thought that the Vedic Hindus came from arid or snow clad regions of Central Asia or Europe and Dravidians came from the Mediterranean regions.


Water is, of course, essential for every human being whether you are a Hindu or not. But no literature praised water like the Hindu scriptures. Even a today a Brahmin worships water three times a day. Apart from that, the  Hindus discovered the enormous power of water. they can create missiles with it. They can curse any one with water or give a boon to anyone with water.


The whole of Sanskrit literature and the Tamil literature repeated the phrase sea-clad earth thousands of times. Whenever a Tamil poet or a Sanskrit poet wants to describe the earth they will say ‘sea clad’, or ‘sea clothed earth’. Asvini  Devas, the mysterious gods of the Rig Veda, had hundred oared ships and went deep into the ocean to rescue ship wrecked people according to the Rig Veda.


The mighty Saraswati rives is praised as ‘ocean like’ in the Rig Veda. Modern atomic research (carbon dating of isotopes) and astronomical research (NASA satellite pictures) showed that the Saraswati River Civilization existed before the Indus valley Civilization. So, water is the mainstay of the Vedic Hindus. The Vedas reverberated on the banks of the River Saraswati for the first time.

17 Kinds of Water!

Idiots and half-baked people wrote lot of nonsense about the Vedas in ENGLISH! They wrote that the Vedic people were nomads and those people mostly wrote silly/ nonsense in Sanskrit. But when we read the Vedas we are surprised to see the subjects they deal with. For the first time 27 stars are mentioned in the Brahmana literature. Since foreign idiots knew only Greek literature, they did not know the vast topics covered in the Vedic literature. Even if you just write the titles of the subjects you will know what they knew and you wouldn’t dare to call them primitive.


In the consecration ceremony of a king, as given in the Satapata Brahmana there are 17 different kinds of water used in order to infuse their different kinds of vigour into the king. This shows the importance of water in the Vedic literature.

Lot of half-baked people dated the Vedic literature differently and made themselves laughing stocks. First, they wrote that the Vedic Hindus were nomads and primitive people and then in their translations of Brahmanas which were dated  200 years after the Rig Veda by them,  the world’s highest decimal number and the consecration of a king with 17 types of water, 27 stars etc are shown.


Even in the Rig Veda, the oldest scripture in the world, a vast area from Ganges to rivers in Afghanistan is described. The world’s biggest and oldest geography book!


The 17 different waters are:

1.Water from the River Saraswati

(This explodes the theory of half baked  ‘scholars’ and  Marxist idiots, because Saraswati disappeared around 2000 BCE. So Satapata Brahmana or the ceremony it denotes existed before 2000 BCE)

2.Water that rises in front of him (called males wave), when he steps into water.

(either we don’t know their geography jargon or we don’t know their coded language)

3.Water that rises behind him

4.The flowing water

5.Such water as flows against the stream of the flowing water

6.Water that flows off the main current

7.The Lord of the waters (sea?)

8.Water from a whirlpool

9.Water from a standing pool of flowing water in a sunny spot

10.Water raining while the sun shines

11.Water from a pond

12.Waters from a well

13.Dew drops

14.Honey- one kind of water

15.Embryonic waters

16.Milk- another kind of water

17.Clarified butter

When the mantra says honey, milk, clarified butter we don’t know whether they meant them or a type of water. When they said embryonic waters we wonder what it is.

But through out the Vedic literature it is said that life came from the waters. Later Puranas also showed the first Avatar of Vishnu in waters.

Prajapati (Brahma) is given the number of 17 (another mystery) and the mantra says 17 kinds of water brings together, for Prajapati is 17 fold, and Prajapati is the sacrifice.;that is why he brings together 17 kinds of water.

Water in the Rig Veda

Hymn 9 in the 10th Mandala of Rig Veda is addressed to the Waters as Divinities and the first three of the nine verses are repeated by all Brahmins at their morning ablutions (Sandhyavandanam). The same three are used in the making of firepan, as described in the Sat. Br.(6-5-1-2) in which we read,

“Hence this triplet (RV10-9-1/3) is these waters which appeared as one form.

“This whole earth dissolved itself all over the water; all this universe appeared as one form only, namely water (6-1-1-12)

“Agni, we know that source whence thou art come, – the source, doubtless, is the heavenly waters, for from the waters he first came. In the sea the manly minded kindled thee in the water—the manly minded is Prajapati; thus, in the waters Prajapati kindled thee – the man watcher hath kindled thee, O Agni, in the udder of the sky—the man watcher, doubtless, is Prajapati, and the udder of the sky is water—thee whilst standing in the third region, doubtless, is the sky. the buffaloes made thee grow in the lap of the waters—the buffaloes, doubtless, are the vital airs; thus the vital airs made thee grow in the sky—Sat.Brah 6-7-4-5

Geographically we are informed that an ocean of water surrounds the earth. Later Puranas refer to the seven concentric oceans of milk, ghee, sugarcane etc.

“He surrounds this world with water—it is with the ocean that he thus surrounds it on all sides, and hence the ocean flows round this world in a moat- Sat. Br.7-1-13


Hindus were the first one to describe this world ‘round’ in shape (Anda=egg) and they are the one who described the universe is round (Hiranyagarbha). I have also written about how the Hiranyagarbha gave birth to the Big Bang theory.

Satapata Brahana and other Brahmanas have lot of things about water which may be considered unintelligible (or silly by foreigners) today. The reason being they were translated into English (which I and many others follow today) by people who don’t know anything about Hindu culture; leave alone the lack of knowledge about Hindu beliefs, they were anti-Hindu which is reflected in their lectures (please read my articles on Max Muller and his bluff)




Written by London Swaminathan


Date: 22 October 2017


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Post No. 4326

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There are strange stories about the appearance of animals and the origin of animals and birds in the Brahmana literature.

The reddish appearance of a white horse’s mouth is explained as follows:-

“Agni went away from the gods; he entered the water. The gods said to Prajapati: Go thou in search of him; to thee, his own father, he will reveal himself He became a white horse, and went in search of him. He found him on a lotus, having crept forth from the water. He eyed him, and Agni scorched him.  Hence the white horse has, as it were, a scorched or reddish mouth, and indeed is apt to be weak-eyed. Agni thought he had hit and hurt him, and said to him, ‘I grant thee a boon’.

–Satapata Brahmana,7-3-2-14


Agni’s mark is also on the shoulder of the Ox:

“For such a one (as an ox) is of Agni’s nature, since its shoulder (bearing the yoke) is as if burnt by fire.”

–Satapata Brahmana,4-5-1-15

“The Asuras persecuted the Devas and came into contact with them. The Devas turned horses (asva) and kicked them with their feet. Thence the horses are called ‘asva’ from ‘as’ to reach. He who obtains this knowledge obtains all he desires. Thence the horse is the swiftest of animals because of its kicking with the hind legs. He who has such a knowledge destroys the consequences of guilt”

–Aitareya Brahmana Vol.1 (Haug’s Vol.2, page 319)


This was the more necessary because animals, and even plants avenged in a future existence injuries inflicted on them in this life—Satapata Brahmana, 11-6-1-1


The origin of some of the birds and quadrupeds is explained in the following texts:-

“Tvashtri had a three-headed, six eyed son. He had three mouths, and because he was thus shaped, he was called Visva-Rupa (all shape). One of his mouths was Soma-drinking, one spirit-drinking, and one for other food. Indra hated him, and cut off those heads of his. And from the one which was Soma-drinking, a hazel cock sprang forth; hence the latter is of brownish colour, for King Soma is brown. And one which was spirit-drinking, a sparrow sprang; hence the latter talks like one who is joyful, for one who has drank spirits, one talks as one who enjoys himself; And from one which was for other kinds of food, a partridge sprang; whence the latter is exceedingly variegated; ghee-drops have, as it were, dropped on his wings, in one place, and honey drops, as it were, on another; for such like was the food he consumed with that mouth” — –Satapata Brahmana,5-5-4-12

Origin of Lion, Wolf and Trees

“Indra, uninvited, consumed what pure Soma there was in the tub, as the stronger would consume the food for the weaker. But it hurt him; it flowed in all directions from the opening of his vital airs; only from his mouth it did not flow. From what flowed from the nose a lion sprang; and from what flowed from the ears a wolf sprang; and from what flowed from the lower opening wild beasts sprang, with the tiger as their foremost; and what flowed from the upper opening (top of the head whence the soul issues at death), that was foaming spirit. And thrice he spat out; thence were produced the fruits called Kuvala, Karkandu and Badara, three different species of the Jujube tree). Indra became emptied out of everything, for Soma is everything. Being thus purged by Soma

he walked about, as one tottering. The Aswins cured him by this offering… By offering he indeed became better.”

–Satapata Brahmana,5-5-4-8

My Comments:–

These stories are like stories told by the illiterate tribes living in the remotest parts of the forest or hills. But unless they have hidden meanings they would not have survived from 1000 BCE. More over along with such stories we have very high thoughts, big numbers in mathematical order, information about 27 stars, linguistics etc. So we have to do more research into their statements. Foreigners called these writings, silly, childish and gibberish. But Hindus value them as mantras (holy spells or magic spells).





Marriage between Heaven and Earth (Post No.4301)

Written by London Swaminathan


Date:14 October 2017


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Post No. 4301

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The Heaven Father and the Earth Mother are two of the ancient deities in the Rig Veda. They are revered as primitive pair from whom the rest of the Vedic gods sprung. They are described in the Vedas as ‘wise, great and energetic’. They ‘promote happiness and lavish gifts upon their worshippers’. Their marriage is a most poetic conception. In the Aitareya Brahmana (4-27) the marriage of Heaven and Earth is mentioned:

“The gods then brought the two, Heaven and Earth together, and when they came together they performed a wedding of the gods.”

“The Vedas set before us a world of rich and vigorous life, full of joyous fighting men”, says Huxley.

“These two worlds were once joined (subsequently) they separated. (After their separation) There fell neither rain, nor was sunshine.

This marriage of heaven and earth were found in many cultures. They have borrowed it from the Vedic Hindus. The Greeks addressed the Earth, ‘as the Mother of the gods and starry heavens’.

In the 41st fragment of Aezchylus (from the Danaides), Aphrodite is introduced as saying, “The pure heaven loves to inflict upon earth an amorous blow; and desire seizes the Earth to obtain the nuptial union. Rain falling from the moist Heaven impregnates the Earth, who brings forth for mortals the food of sheep, the sustenance of Demeter (Deva Mata= demeter). The verdure of the woods also is perfected by the showers preceding from this marriage. Of all these things I (Aphrodite) am in part of the cause”

French author Albert Reville says, that “the marriage of Heaven and Earth form the foundation of hundred mythologies”.


Max Muller Bluff

Max Muller and Wilkins spread wrong information that Dyaus (Sky father) and Prithvi (Mother Earth) as ‘the most ancient deities of the Aryans and they were replaced by Indra and Agni later’. But there is no proof for it. All the references to marriage of Dyaus (sky) with Prthvi (earth) come from later part of the Vedas. Greeks borrowed it from us and pronounced it as Zeus.


Moreover, in the early Mandalas Agni and Indra are praised more than the Dyaus and Prithvi. The early Suktas divided it into three Sky, Atmosphere and Earth. Even the parents of Earth and Heaven (Pusan) are mentioned. So his concocted story that the Earth and the Heaven are ‘the most ancient deities’ has no basis.


If one idiot says something 1000 idiots repeat it without verifying the fact. With very great enthusiasm, he identified himself with those ‘’marching Aryans’’ who entered India .

Dyaus in Rig Veda :

“At the festivals ( I worship) with offerings, and celebrate the praises of Heaven and Earth, the promoters of righteousness, the great, the wise, the energetic, who, having gods for their offspring, thus lavish with the gods the choicest blessings in consequence of our hymn”

“With my invocations I adore the thought of beneficent Father, and that mighty inherent power of the mother. The prolific parents have made all creatures, and through their favours (have conferred) wide immortality on their offspring”—Rig Veda 1-159-1


One must be careful about English translation of the Vedas. No two foreign authors agree on the meanings of the Vedic mantras. And these people add ‘Sayana said’, ‘Sayana thinks’, ‘Sayana believed ‘and then add “Aryan” as a race. Sayana never used it in that sense. He used it like the ancient Tamils used Arya in Sangam literature and Greatest Tamil poet Bharati used Arya throughout his poems; in short, no racial connotation! They meant ‘cultured’, ‘who believed God’. Even Buddha used Arya (Ajja= ayya= ayyar in Tamil) in the right sense. Those who use English translations of the foreign authors must be very careful; there are over 40 interpretations on the word Asura and origin of Asuras!!!

Dyaus Pita | Tamil and Vedas

In the hymns there are various speculations about the origin of Dyaus and Prithvi. A Perplexed poet enquires, “Which of these was the first, and which the last?




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Date:13 October 2017


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Vedic seers (rishis) believed in the extraordinary powers of the sound. They believed that certain intonations can do miracles. They were highly civilized and cultured and used metres in the poems to derive power. It is amazing to see such thinking before other civilizations never wrote poems following prosody or a set of grammar rules.

Following articles posted by me have the full details:

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Satapata Brahmana has very interesting information   regarding this. Unless we do proper scientific research, we would not know the full significance of it. Even though Sayana and several others before him tried to interpret Vedas, traditionalists never acknowledged it. They believed mantras have sound effect and there is no need to know the meaning.

Looking at the mantras in the Brahmana literature we would also think the same, because many of them have no meaning literally or the meaning would be ‘silly’.


Here are some passages from the Brahmanas:

“On account of the metres of the first three days being ascending, the fire blazes up, for the upper regions belong to fire. On account of the metres of the middle three days being crossed, the wind blows across. The wind moves across the other regions, and the waters flow also across; for the region which is across the others belong to the wind. On account of metres of the last three days being descending, that one (i.e. the sun) burns downwards, the rain falls down, and the constellations in the heaven sends their light down. For the region which goes down belongs to the sun”.


“The strength of the metres was exhausted by the gods, for it was by the metres that the gods attained the world of heaven.   And the response song is ecstasy – what ecstasy there in the Rik and that is there in the Saman, that is sap. This sap now he lays in the metres and thus makes the metres of restored strength, and with them of restored strength, they perform the sacrifices”—Satapata Br. 4-3-2-5


The science of the Vedas is most intimately connected with  the rhythm and metres of the Vedas. Vedic Hindus had great faith in the stupendous powers of different metres, employed in the several mantras  recited at the sacrifices, the number of feet in each, the variety of the feet, and the manner in which these occurred, as stated above, for example.

In the Aitareya Brahmana we have the following: –

“Which has its analogy in the fact that great people, when travelling to a distant place, yoke to their carriage at every station fresh horses or oxen which are not fatigued. Just in the same way the sacrificers travel to the celestial world by employing at every station fresh metres representing the horses or oxen which are not fatigued”.


Here is another way of obtaining rain: On the fourth day of the Dvadasa Sacrifice, the singers make ‘Nyunkha’ of the syllable ‘Vach’ by pronouncing it with a tremulous voice increasing and decreasing the tone. This serves to make the fourth day particularly important. Because the ‘Nyunkha’ (the special mode of intoning vach) produces food for the singers seeking a livelihood, wander about to make food grow by their singing for rain’- Aitareya Br. Haugh Vol. bii. P 323


Food and rain are thus produced by making Nyunkha. The power of Nyunkha to bring rain must be explored scientifically. I believe that the sound waves and water were used by the Vedic Hindus to give one a boon or throw a curse.

The power of Kusa/Dharba grass is also known only to Vedic Hindus. We must do scientific research.





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Date: 9 September 2017


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A verse quoted by Nagesa provided a clue for dividing the northern region from that of the eastern. The river Sarasvati is said to be the dividing line in that verse. Amarakosa has also given such direction. It included Kamboja North eastern Punjab the mountainous union or Parvatiya sang indicated by Panini. MBH describes them as Parvatiya (mountainous), Girigahvaravaasi (those living in the caves of the mountains). The following 62 janapadas have been identified in the group:

ABHISARA: south of Kasmira the PunchaRajanr; Greeks called the north western districts of Peshwar – abisaris

AMBASTA: Lower parts of the Chenab river; Panini mentioned Ambasta and AAmbasta; it corresponds with the Greek—Sambastai and Avastanoi

AAHUKA: Kabul basin in Afghanistan

AUDUMBURA: federal state of Udumbura

BARBARA:situated in Oxus valley; Panini named a pot named Barbarika near Karachi in Pakistan

BODHA:they are identified with Yaudheyas; Bayaanaa and Johiaakara region of Bharatapura


BHARADWAJA:Western part of Assam

CARMAMANDALA: may be Samarakhandika

CINA: Modern Sinkiang or Chiense Turkestan

DARADI: Dardistan area of Giljit

DAARVA: Daggar Jammu area

DASAMAALIKAA: area between River Jhelam and Bias (Vyas)

also Dasanaamika; Girivraja capital

DASERAKA:Marwara region of Rajasthan

GRAMANIIYAKA:Panini also mentioned them; they are militant. Cave dwellers organised under leader GRAMANI.

GANDHARA: It has been famous from Vedic days; region stretching from Taxila to River Kabul; modern Khandahar in Afghanistan; Pushkalavati Takshsheelam capitals


GIRIGAHVARAVAASINAH: militant race organised under Gramani. also known as Gauri. they are called Parvatiya (mountainous)

17.HAMSAMARGA: name of the Hunja region. janapada of the Parvatiya sanga ( unio of mountainous group)


18.HARAHUNA: Harmurtika, land of black grapes; janapada in Herat.

19.HAIMAVATAH: living in the Himalays; north of Sikkim

20.HUNA:the race shifted to one place to another.Kalidasa points them towards Persia; lived near Oxus and its tributaries


21.JAGUDA: Gazni area of Afghanistan

  1. KAMBOJA:Pamir region; they say sa va to go according to Mhabhasya;its used in Galcha dialect; Dwaraka capita. some identifies with Kashmir.
  2. KASMIRA: Sarada country; blessed by Goddess of learning city-Adhistana; present Kashmir.

24.KALATOYAKA- near Suleman hills

25.KEKAYA: associated with the country of Dasamalika; Ramayana locates it near Ghandhara

26.KHASA:Baltistan; mid-oxus

27.KULINDA:region in the Himalayas

28.KULUUTA: Bhima killed Ksemamuurti, King of Kuluutas; ii is in modern Kulu

29.KURUJANGALA: region between river Sarasvati and Ganga; Haryana

30.LOHITA: Rohela of Afghhanistan

31.LAMPAKA:North of Kabul Laghamanas attacked Satyaki in the Jarasadha Vadha; alinagar valley

32.MADRAKA: capital- sakala; modern Sialkot; associated with princess Savitri and Vedic teacher Sakalya

33.MADREYA:Madri is from this country; same as madraka; janapadas of noth Punjab

34.MAULEYA: modern Malwa region

35.PRASTHALA: near Patiala

36.PANCABHEDA: five rivers=Punjab

37.PAHLAVA: who came from the tail of Vasistha’scow; Parthian’s of Iran; samarkhand to Iran

38.PARATAKA:Hingula region of Pakistan


40.PISACA: neighbours of Lampaka janapada; Pasai Kafirs were the inhabitants

41.PULINDA: Panini called them SAALVAAVAYANA. part of salva janapada

42.RAMATHA: near Ghazni in Afghanistan

43.SUKUTTA: Suket estate

44.SAIRANDHRA: Sirhind region

45.SAKA: Modern Seistan in Iran

46.SAAKALA: modern Sialkot; Panini referred to it.

47.SAATVAKA: Mandi on the northern bank of Sutlej

48.SALVA:Panini mentioned threeSaalva, Saalveya and Saalvaavayana. Near Matsyas

49.SIVI:Rik Veda mentioned them; country ath the confluence of Jhelam and Sindhu in Pakistan.

50.TANGADA PARATANGANA: country of Mleccas; Bhota country;Kullu Kangda region; mountainous

51.TRGARTA: Panini mentioned people of this country lived on arms. There was a union of six countries in Trgarta: Kaundiparatha, Dandika, Krautsika, Jaalamani, Brahmagupta and Jaanika

52.TUSAARA:Tokharistan (former USSR) They were present at Rajasuya Yajna of Yudhidthira

53.TOMARA:Tibetan region near Bhutan

54.UTSAVASANKETA: Ramapura, Basahara region of valley of Satluj

55.URAGA:Hazara district; between the Rivers Sindhu and Jhelum

56.VANAYU: Wana valley of Waziristan in Pakistan

57.VAATADHAANA: region east of Pancanada between Rivers Satluj and Ravi

58.VAAHLIKA: Balkh; Bactria of the Greeks; Skanda Purana mentioned this country out of 72 regions including 400,000 villages.

59.VAHIKA: according to Panini it is a synonym of Usinara; durin Panini’s times whole of Punjab was called Vahika.

60.VAIYAMAKA:identified near DARADI

61.YAVANA: The Greeks were called Yavanas with yellow coloured bodies; part of Jambudwipa; north west India

62.YUGANDHARA:Yugasila country near Dehradun of UP on the bank of River Yamuna


In the third and  part we will look at southern regions.

………………….to be continued


100 Karnataka Wonders: Part 5 (Post No.4170)

Murudeshwar temple

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Date: 28 August 2017


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Tumakuru District




Vijayanagar period Laksminarayanaswamy temple is the oldest temple here.



The large sculpture of Nandhi (bull) is splendidly carved out of a single black stone in front of Gangadhareswara Temple. Three impressive temples with Hoysala inscriptions are in the town.



There is a Gurukula type of higher education centre is in the town. The waters of a natural spring here is considered to be sacred.


Udupi District


The important Vaishnavite pilgrim and cultural centre. It is the centre of most famous Krishna temple. Also famous for its South Indian cuisine. All over South India we have Udupi Bhavans (restaurants).


The temple is associated with Sri Madhwacharya, founder of the Dwaitha philosophy.The Paryaya festival held once in two years attracts large a number of devotees from all oover the country.



Centre of many temple and relics of an old fort.


It is known for a 12-8 metre high monolith of Lord Gmateswara, a Jain sage. Important Jain centre.



A quiet and beautiful beach is here.


Famous for its educational institutions.

Centre of Water Sports. West Coast Highway is spectacular. Beautiful spot with lush green hills on one side and delta of river Sauparnika on the other side.


Uttar Kannada District


Excellent beach at the mouth of Kali river. It is angler’s paradise. Sadashivgahta Hill Fort, Naganath Temple, Baithkola Beach, Karwar Harbour are frequented by tourists. Karwar is famous for its muslin factory as well.


79 species of birds are seen. Migratory birds from various countries also flock to the sanctuary.


It is near mundgod. Students from different countries come here to study Buddhist Philosophy.


Industrial Centre; Gateway to the famous Dandeli wildlife sanctuary.


Gokarna means Ear of the cow. According to legend, Rudra Shiva arrived here shortly after the creation of the earth, squeezing through the ear of the earth. An important beach centre.


Magnificent Shiva temple perched on a hillock near the beach. Temple is famous for its Atmalinga.



Kudle beach is on the southern side of Gokarna. Om beach resembles the sacred Hindu symbol OM.


Atop the hill is famous temple of Lord Shiva, enshrining the Linga. Beach is clean and unspoilt. The view of the sea from the hill is awe inspiring.



Twin peaks of Bairaveshwara Shikara

and Mohini Shikara (shikara = peak) are venerated by the locals. Mahashivarathri festival is very popular.


New bridge across the Sharavati river dominates the landscape.





The world’s largest Venna (appr.10 ft long) is in Sringeri.

The world’s largest account book is in Government museum in Shivamogga.

Indi\’s highest water fall Jog Falls is near Shmogga.

Biggest bulls (Shiva’s bull) made up of monoliths (single stone) are in several temples.

Mysuru palace has the biggest gold throne weighing 200 kilos.


In Belur, Halebidu and Somnathpur several thousands of sculptures ae there. Marching elephants, Gods are all differently carved. The don’t like similar.


Statues of Jain saint Gamateswara are in two different places. The Maha Mastaka Abisheka of Gomateswara is in Srvanabelagola. It is 57 ft tall. The ceremony held every 12 years is colourful.






100 Wonders of Karnataka- Part 4 (Post No.4168)

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The city of demon Mahisasura who was killed by the presiding deity of the city goddess Chamundeeswary. I t was ruled by the kings of Wodeyar family. Cleanest city in India with beautiful mansions.




The three storeyed palace was built on an old structure. Durbar Hall and Kalyana Mandapam were decorated with foreign materials. Golden treasurers are in the palace. 200 kilo gold gold throne and a golden Howdah are used in the annual Dasara procession.Millions watch this procession.



Art gallery housed in Jaganmohan Palace and the museum have a very rare collection.


Museum houses priceless locomotives. Folklore museum has a collection of 6500articles Mysuru is one of the oldest zoos in the country.



It is in the outskirts of the city at the foot of the Chamundi Hills. built in European style now it has been converted into a hotel.


IT IS 1065 METRE HIGH AND THE FAMOUS Chamundeeswary Temple is here. 1000 steps and a motorable road are there. Chamundy Temple is believed to be 2000 year old. It is famous for its monolith Nandi (bull) towering nearly 5 metres. It is one of the famous seven Nandis. Gigantic statue of Mahisasura in on the top of the hill.



It is famous for its annual Chariot festival attended by large number of devotees.



King Narasimha III built it in 1268. Excellent example of Hoysala architecture. Epic secenes decorate the walls in sculptural form.


The Hindu pilgrim centre on the left bank of the Kaveri river has Pancha Lingas (five lingas). The Panchalinga Darshan is arranged once in 12 years.



It means the face of Lord Shiva. Keladi Nayaks, Kadambas, Gangas, Chaukyas, Rashtrakutas and Vijayanagara rulersruled from very early years.



Government Museum in Shivamoga dispalys rare coins, mansuscripts, palm leaves,  and an ancient account book measuring 18-29 long.. Apart from this the Seetha Rama Anjaneya temple in the fort is a fine example of Hoysalas.


IT IS CALLED THE CHIRAPUNJI OF Suth India with maximum rain fall for four monts. It is set in the Tropical Rain Forest region with rare orchid flowers.

Spectacular sunset point 90 kms from Sivamoga is very popular.




Industrial city also known as Steel City.Lakshminarasimha Temple and Rameshwara Templeon the banks of Tunga river are of Hoysala period.


The dam on the River Tunga and the elephant camp are poular.


Important Jain pilgrim centre with Panchakuta Basadi. Jain Temples are here.



Highest Water Fall in the country with an elevation of almost 1000 ft. River Sharavati falls from the top as four different cascades: Raja, Rani, Roarer and Rocket. It is a thrilling spectacle.


Pilgrim and Cultural centre on the confluence of rivers Tunga and Bhadra. A Smartha Mutt was established in the 16th century.



Located on the small island of River Tunga. Surrounded by dense forests. Attracts migratory birds.


LION SAFARI WAS STARTED IN 1988 AMIDST DENSE FOREST. Other wild animals are also roam the forest.

Agumbe Rain Forest

to be continued………………………….