30 Sumerian Proverbs that reflect Hindu Views! (Post No.7159)

WRITTEN  by  London Swaminathan

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Date: 31 OCTOBER 2019

Time  in London – 8-04 am

Post No. 7159

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NOVEMBER 2019 ‘GOOD THOUGHTS’ CALENDAR

Festival days:- November 2- Sura Samharam in Skanda/ Kartikeya Temples; 9 Tulsi Vivah; 12 Guru Nanak Jayanti & Annabishekam (Kartik Purnima in North India; in Tamil Nadu it is on 10th December) ; 16 Gopi Ashtami;18- Sangabishekam in Shiva Temples (Bathing Shiva with holy water from Conch shells); 24 Guru Tej Bahadur martyrdom day.

Muhurta/ auspicious days-  November 1,3, 10, 15, 22, 24

New moon/ Amavasyai – 26.

Full moon/ Purnima day- 12

Hindu Fasting /Ekadasi Days-  8 and 22/23

I have chosen 30 Sumerian Proverbs which are similar to Indian Proverbs in Tamil and Sanskrit. Great men think alike!

November 1 Friday

Dharma:- Who can compete with righteousness It creates life

November 2 Saturday

Hindu Yudhdha Dharma- You should not cut the throat of that which has already had its throat cut.

Suura Samharam- Lord Skanda Kills Demon Suura
Soora Samharam

November 3 Sunday

Hindu Wedding Mantras- Marrying is human. Having children is divine

November 4 Monday

Arajaka in Valmiki Ramayana- In a city that has no watch dogs,
the fox is the overseer.

November 5 Tuesday

Who possesses much silver may be happy;
who possesses much barley may be glad;
but he who has nothing at all may sleep.

November 6 Wednesday

Writing is the mother of eloquence and the father of artists.

November 7 Thursday

Flatter a young man, he give you anything;
Throw a scrap to a dog, he’ll wag his tail.

November 8 Friday

Mata Pita Guru Deivam- Pay heed to the word of your mother as though it were the word of a god.

November 9 Saturday

A sweet word is everybody’s friend.

Tulsi Puja

November 10 Sunday

For a man’s pleasure there is marriage;
on thinking it over, there is divorce.

November 11 Monday

Conceiving is nice; pregnancy is irksome.

November 12 Tuesday

The wife is a man’s future;
the son is a man’s refuge;
the daughter is a man’s salvation;
the daughter-in-law is a man’s devil.

November 13 Wednesday

Less Luggage, More Happiness-Who builds like a lord, lives like a slave.
Who builds like a slave, lives like a lord.

November 14 Thursday

Vidura Neeti and Tirukkural – Do not return evil to your adversary; maintain justice for your enemy, do good things, be kind all your days. What you say in haste you may regret later.

November 15 Friday

Making loans is as [easy] as making love, but repaying them is as hard as bearing a child.

November 16 Saturday

Hindu View- Go up to the ancient ruin heaps and walk around; look at the skulls of the lowly and the great. Which belongs to someone who did evil and which to someone who did good?

November 17 Sunday

Fear of ‘Papa’/ Sin- Commit no crime, and fear [of your god] will not consume you.

November 18 Monday

Karma Theory- Has she become pregnant without intercourse? Has she become fat without eating?

November  19 Tuesday

Kalidas Advice – Bride, [as] you treat your mother-in-law, so will women [later] treat you.

November 20 Wednesday

Against Drinking- If the beer mash is sour, how can the beer be sweet?

November 21 Thursday

Anityam – The gods alone live forever under the divine sun; but as for mankind, their days are numbered, all their activities will be nothing but wind.

November 22 Friday

Be Perfect- If a singer knows only one song but makes the sound pleasant, he is indeed a singer!

November 23 Saturday

He who knows how to move around becomes strong.

November 24 Sunday

You can have a lord, you can have a king, but the man to fear is the tax collector!

November 25 Monday

Don’t be Aggressive- If you take the field of an enemy,
the enemy will come and take your field.

November 26 Tuesday

He who possesses many things is constantly on guard.

November 27 Wednesday

Be careful about your Speech-A heart never created hatred; speech created hatred.

November 28 Thursday

Family comes First- He who does not support a wife, he who does not support a child, has no cause for celebration.

November 29 Friday

Vidhi – Fate is a dog, well able to bite.

November 30 Saturday

Be Perfect- If a scribe knows only a single line but his handwriting is good, he is indeed a scribe!

Sumerian Proverbs are similar to Hindu Proverbs.

–subham–

Nine Muses in Greece and Nine Ceremonies in China (Post No.7150)

Compiled by  London Swaminathan


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Date: 28 OCTOBER 2019

Time  in London – 15-40

Post No. 7150

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In ancient China  the number nine wasimportant in tne I Ching and in the Book of Rituals ( (Li Chi), which speaks o  nine ceremonies and they are-

Puberty rite for men

Wedding

Audience

Ambassadorship

Burial,

Sacrifice

Hospitality

Drinking and

Military rituals

In the Han dynasty a nine based cosmology was for favoured.

The ninth day of the ninth month  was a men’s festival of ‘yang raised to a higher power.

There were nine earthly provinces, nine mountains, nine fields of heaven and so on.

The center of Beujing had 8 roads leading in to it , and these added to the one central point, made for a similar nonary structure.

In the West, there were nine orders of angels, nine cosmic spheres  in medieval cosmology, nine muses.

Greeks have also chosen Goddesses for the arts and poetry like Hindus.

The Muses are the nine goddesses of the arts, history and astronomy in Greece. The muses were not highlighted in mythologies, but writers and poets invoke them like Hindus before writing a book or performing dance and music. They are the source of inspiration for them like Goddess of Knowledge Saraswati or Goddess of wisdom, Ganesh.

Muses were among the retinue of the god Apollo, the patron of music and the arts. They were said to reside on Mount Helicon near Thebes or on Mount Parnassus near Delphi (Like Kailash or Mount Meru of Hindu Mythology).

Their names and branches of arts they preside over are as follows:

Name                        Meaning                              Arts

Calliope                         Beautiful voice                    Epic Poetry

Clio                                Fame                                      History

Erato                             Lovely                                    Lyric Poetry

Euterpe                         Joy                                          The Flute

Melpomene                   Singing                                  Tragic Drama

Polyhymnia                   Many Songs                         Mime

Terpsichore                   Joyful dance                             Dance

Thalia                            Good Cheer/Plenty            Comic Drama

Urania                             Celestial                               Astronomy

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Idioms and phrases

We say that a cat has nine lives and a person who is ‘dressed to the nines’ in wearing his or her most elaborate finery.

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Why a son is called a ‘PUTRA’? (Post No.7141)

Choza King who followed Manu Neethi/rules

Written by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

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Date: 26 OCTOBER 2019

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Post No. 7141

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Let us continue with chapter 9; most of the things said here have no relevance today; we have no evidence to show that these rules were ever observed. This chapter is only of academic interest. May be useful to researchers.

When one wants to assess ‘Manu’s justice’ one must consider:

What time did he write?

For whom did he write?

Were they followed verbatim or just rules in the book?

What happened in the contemporary civilizations?

In my view, most of the rules were academic. Foreign writers who visited India about 1500 years ago praised the Hindu society for its truthfulness and honesty. They saw order and discipline everywhere.

More over all communities around the world gave importance to male children because they were the bread winners, farm workers and fighters (in the war). But Manu empahasized more about the ablutions to the departed souls by the eldest son. This son’s duty to the departed souls and the Veera Matha (mother of heroic sons) concept are seen both in Pura nanuru of Sangam Tamil literature and the Vedas. Typical Hindu concepts seen from the Himalayas to Kanyakumari.

In addition to it, we see the Veera Swarga concept in the Bhagavad Gita, Pura Nanuru (Sangam Tamil literature) and the Islamic Koran. That is, who dies in war will get a direct ticket to the Heaven.

So, one must think twice before passing judgement on Manu. They must consider the rules of contemporary civilizations.

Throughout my comments on Manu, I have been showing the original Manu lived during Rig Vedic times. I have given the reasons for it (No reference to Sati, all reference about Mighty Saraswati River, No Ganga). All the Hindu scriptures except Vedas are updated constantly. Manu Smrti also updated during Sunga rule. Manu’s examples are all from very ancient times. He never mentioned Rama or Krishna. He never gave examples of epic heroes. Even in this chapter he gave examples about Daksha with 50 daughters, not Kuchelaa/Sudhama with 27 daughters

Manu considers all hypothetical situations such as 4 wives of a Brahmin , unmarried daughter delivering a child secretly at father’s house. He never forgets or hides anything. Even though such things are rare, he talks about rules concerned with them.

Let us continue from 9-137

9-137:-  Through a son he conquers the worlds, through a son’s son he obtains immortality, but through his son’s grandson he gains the world of the sun.

138. Because a son delivers (trayate) his father from the hell called Put, he was therefore called put-tra (a deliverer from Put) by the Self-existent (Svayambhu) himself.

139. Between a son’s son and the son of a daughter there exists in this world no difference; for even the son of a daughter saves him who has no sons in the next world, like the son’s son.

140. Let the son of an appointed daughter first present a funeral cake to his mother, the second to her father, the funeral to his father’s father.

ADOPTION

9-141. Of the man who has an adopted (Datrima) son possessing all good qualities, that same (son) shall take the inheritance, though brought from another family.

142. An adopted son shall never take the family (name) and the estate of his natural father; the funeral cake follows the family (name) and the estate, the funeral offerings of him who gives (his son in adoption) cease (as far as that son is concerned).

143. The son of a wife, not appointed to have issue by another, and he whom an appointed female, already the mother of a son, bears to her brother-in-law, are both unworthy of a share, one being the son of an adulterer and the other produced through mere lust.

144. Even the male child of a female duly appointed, not begotten according to the rule given above, is unworthy of the paternal estate; for he was procreated by an outcast.

145. A son legally begotten on such an appointed female shall inherit like a legitimate son of the body; for that seed and the produce belong, according to the law, to the owner of the soil.

146. He who takes care of his deceased brother’s estate and of his widow, shall, after raising up a son for his brother, give that property even to that (son).

147. If a woman (duly) appointed bears a son to her brother-in-law or to another (Sapinda), that son, if he is begotten through desire, they declare to be incapable of inheriting and to be produced in vain.

148. The rules given above must be understood to apply to a distribution among sons of women of the same caste; hear now the law concerning those begotten by one man on many wives of different castes.

Brahmin’s Four Wives

9-149. If there be four wives of a Brahmana in the direct order of the castes, the rule for the division of the estate among the sons born of them is as follows:

150. The slave who tills the field, the bull kept for impregnating cows, the vehicle, the ornaments, and the house shall be given as an additional portion to the Brahmana son, and one most excellent share.

151. Let the son of the Brahmana wife take three shares of the remainder of the estate, the son of the Kshatriya two, the son of the Vaisya a share and a half, and the son of the Sudra may take one share.

Distribution of Ten Shares

9-152. Or let him who knows the law make ten shares of the whole estate, and justly distribute them according to the following rule:

153. The Brahmana son shall take four shares, son of the Kshatriya wife three, the son of the Vaisya shall have two parts, the son of the Sudra may take one share.

154. Whether a Brahmana have sons or have no sons by wives of the twice-born castes, the heir must, according to the law, give to the son of a Sudra  wife no more than a tenth part of his estate.

155. The son of a Brahmana, a Kshatriya, and a Vaisya by a Sudra (wife) receives no share of the inheritance; whatever his father may give to him, that shall be his property.

156. All the sons of twice-born men, born of wives of the same caste, shall equally divide the estate, after the others have given to the eldest an additional share.

157. For a Sudra is ordained a wife of his own caste only (and) no other; those born of her shall have equal shares, even if there be a hundred sons.

Six plus Six Sons

9-158. Among the twelve sons of men whom Manu, sprung from the Self-existent (Svayambhu), enumerates, six are kinsmen and heirs, and six not heirs, (but) kinsmen.

159. The legitimate son of the body, the son begotten on a wife, the son adopted, the son made, the son secretly born, and the son cast off, (are) the six heirs and kinsmen.

160. The son of an unmarried damsel, the son received with the wife, the son bought, the son begotten on a re-married woman, the son self-given, and the son of a Sudra female, are the six who are not heirs, but kinsmen.

Unsafe Boat

9-161. Whatever result a man obtains who tries to cross a sheet of water in an unsafe boat, even that result obtains he who tries to pass the gloom of the next world with the help of bad substitutes for a real son.

162. If the two heirs of one man be a legitimate son of his body and a son begotten on his wife, each (of the two sons), to the exclusion of the other, shall take the estate of his (natural) father.

163. The legitimate son of the body alone (shall be) the owner of the paternal estate; but, in order to avoid harshness, let him allow a maintenance to the rest.

164. But when the legitimate son of the body divides the paternal estate, he shall give one-sixth or one-fifth part of his father’s property to the son begotten on the wife.

165. The legitimate son and the son of the wife (thus) share the father’s estate; but the other tell become members of the family, and inherit according to their order (each later named on failure of those named earlier.

AURASA, KSHETRAGA, DATRIMA, KRITRIMA

9-166. Him whom a man begets on his own wedded wife, let him know to be a legitimate son of the body (Aurasa), the first in rank.

167. He who was begotten according to the peculiar law (of the Niyoga) on the appointed wife of a dead man, of a eunuch, or of one diseased, is called a son begotten on a wife (Kshetraga).

168. That boy equal by caste whom his mother or his father affectionately give, confirming the gif with a libation of water, in times of distress to a man as his son, must be considered as an adopted son (Datrima).

169. But he is considered a son made (Kritrima) whom (a man) makes his son, (he being) equal (by caste), acquainted with (the distinctions between) right and wrong, (and) endowed with filial virtues.

GUDHOTPANNA, APAVIDDHA, KANINA, SAHODHA

9-170. If a child be born in a man’s house and his father be not known, he is a son born secretly in the house (Gudhotpanna), and shall belong to him of whose wife he was born.

171. He whom (a man) receives as his son, (after he has been) deserted by his parents or by either of them, is called a son cast off (Apaviddha).

UNMARRIED MOTHERS

9-172. A son whom a damsel secretly bears in the house of her father, one shall name the son of an unmarried damsel (Kanina, and declare) such offspring of an unmarried girl (to belong) to him who weds her (afterwards).

173. If one marries, either knowingly or unknowingly, a pregnant (bride), the child in her womb belongs to him who weds her, and is called (a son) received with the bride (Sahodha).

KRITAKA, PAUNARBHAVA, SVAAYAMDATTA, PARASAVA

9-174. If a man buys a (boy), whether equal or unequal (in good qualities), from his father and mother for the sake of having a son, that (child) is called a (son) bought (Kritaka).

175. If a woman abandoned by her husband, or a widow, of her own accord contracts a second marriage and bears (a son), he is called the son of a re-married woman (Paunarbhava).

176. If she be (still) a virgin, or one who returned (to her first husband) after leaving him, she is worthy to again perform with her second (or first deserted) husband the (nuptial) ceremony.

177. He who, having lost his parents or being abandoned (by them) without (just) cause, gives himself to a (man), is called a son self-given (Svayamdatta).

178. The son whom a Brahmana begets through lust on a Sudra female is, (though) alive (parayan), a corpse (sava), and hence called a Parasava (a living corpse).

179. A son who is (begotten) by a Sudra on a female slave, or on the female slave of his slave, may, if permitted (by his father), take a share (of the inheritance); thus the law is settled.

180. These eleven, the son begotten on the wife and the rest as enumerated (above), the wise call substitutes for a son, (taken) in order (to prevent) a failure of the (funeral) ceremonies.

181. Those sons, who have been mentioned in connection with (the legitimate son of the body), being begotten by strangers, belong (in reality) to him from whose seed they sprang, but not to the other (man who took them).

182. If among brothers, sprung from one (father), one have a son, Manu has declared them all to have male offspring through that son.

183. If among all the wives of one husband one have a son, Manu declares them all (to be) mothers of male children through that son.

184. On failure of each better (son), each next inferior (one) is worthy of the inheritance; but if there be many (of) equal (rank), they shall all share the estate.

185. Not brothers, nor fathers, (but) sons take the paternal estate; but the father shall take the inheritance of (a son) who leaves no male issue, and his brothers.

186. To three (ancestors) water must be offered, to three the funeral cake is given, the fourth (descendant is) the giver of these (oblations), the fifth has no connection (with them).

187. Always to that (relative within three degrees) who is nearest to the (deceased) Sapinda the estate shall belong; afterwards a Sakulya shall be (the heir, then) the spiritual teacher or the pupil.

188. But on failure of all (heirs) Brahmanas (shall) share the estate, (who are) versed the in the three Vedas, pure and self-controlled; thus the law is not violated.

BRAHMANA’S  PROPERTY

9-189. The property of a Brahmana must never be taken by the king, that is a settled rule; but (the property of men) of other castes the king may take on failure of all (heirs).

190. (If the widow) of (a man) who died without leaving issue, raises up to him a son by a member of the family (Sagotra), she shall deliver to that (son) the whole property which belonged to the (deceased).

191. But if two (sons), begotten by two (different men), contend for the property (in the hands) of their mother, each shall take, to the exclusion of the other, what belonged to his father.

192. But when the mother has died, all the uterine brothers and the uterine sisters shall equally divide the mother’s estate.

193. Even to the daughters of those (daughters) something should be given, as is seemly, out of the estate of their maternal grandmother, on the score of affection.

194. What (was given) before the (nuptial) fire, what (was given) on the bridal procession, what was given in token of love, and what was received from her brother, mother, or father, that is called the sixfold property of a woman.

195. (Such property), as well as a gift subsequent and what was given (to her) by her affectionate husband, shall go to her offspring, (even) if she dies in the lifetime of her husband.

196. It is ordained that the property (of a woman married) according to the Brahma, the Daiva, the Arsha, the Gandharva, or the Pragapatya rite (shall belong) to her husband alone, if she dies without issue.

197. But it is prescribed that the property which may have been given to a (wife) on an Asura marriage or (one of the) other (blamable marriages, shall go) to her mother and to her father, if she dies without issue.

198. Whatever property may have been given by her father to a wife (who has co-wives of different castes), that the daughter (of the) Brahmani (wife) shall take, or that (daughter’s) issue.

199. Women should never make a hoard from (the property of) their families which is common to many, nor from their own (husbands’ particular) property without permission.

200. The ornaments which may have been worn by women during their husbands’ lifetime, his heirs shall not divide; those who divide them become outcasts.

201. Eunuchs and outcasts, (persons) born blind or deaf, the insane, idiots and the dumb, as well as those deficient in any organ (of action or sensation), receive no share.

202. But it is just that a man who knows (the law) should give even to all of them food and raiment without stint, according to his ability; he who gives it not will become all outcast.

203. If the eunuch and the rest should somehow or other desire to (take) wives, the offspring of such among them as have children is worthy of a share.

204. Whatever property the eldest(son acquires by his own exertion after the father’s death, a share of that shall belong to his younger brothers, provided they have made a due progress in learning.

205. But if all of them, being unlearned, acquire property by their labour, the division of that shall be equal, (as it is) not property acquired by the father; that is a settled rule.

206. Property (acquired) by learning belongs solely to him to whom (it was given), likewise the gift of a friend, a present received on marriage or with the honey-mixture.

207. But if one of the brothers, being able to maintain himself by his own occupation, does not desire a share of the family property, he may be made separate by the others receiving a trifle out of his share to live upon.

208. What one brother may acquire by his labour without using the patrimony, that acquisition, made solely by his own effort, he shall not share unless by his own will with his brothers.

209. But if a father recovers lost ancestral property, he shall not divide it, unless by his own will, with his sons, (for it is) self-acquired (property).

210. If brothers, (once) divided and living (again) together (as coparceners), make a second partition, the division shall in that case be equal; in such a case there is no right of primogeniture.

211. If the eldest or the youngest (brother) is deprived of his share, or if either of them dies, his share is not lost (to his immediate heirs).

212. His uterine brothers, having assembled together, shall equally divide it, and those brothers who were reunited (with him) and the uterine sisters.

213. An eldest brother who through avarice may defraud the younger ones, shall no (longer hold the position of) the eldest, shall not receive an (eldest son’s additional) share, and shall be punished by the king.

214. All brothers who habitually commit forbidden acts, are unworthy of (a share of) the property, and the eldest shall not make (anything his) separate property without giving (an equivalent) to his younger brothers.

215. If undivided brethren, (living with their father,) together make an exertion (for gain), the father shall on no account give to them unequal shares (on a division of the estate).

216. But a son, born after partition, shall alone take the property of his father, or if any (of the other sons) be reunited with the (father), he shall share with them.

217. A mother shall obtain the inheritance of a son (who dies) without leaving issue, and, if the mother be dead, the paternal grandmother shall take the estate.

218. And if, after all the debts and assets have been duly distributed according to the rule, any (property) be afterwards discovered, one must divide it equally.

219. A dress, a vehicle, ornaments, cooked food, water, and female (slaves), property destined for pious uses or sacrifices, and a pasture-ground, they declare to be indivisible.

9-220. The division of the property and the rules for allotting shares to the several sons, those begotten on a wife and the rest, in due order, have been thus declared to you; hear now the laws concerning gambling.

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பாட்டில் படத்தின் விலை 21 லட்சம் டாலர் (Post No.7140)

Written by LONDON SWAMINATHAN

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Date: 26 OCTOBER 2019

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Post No. 7140

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நான் எழுதிய `பாட்டில் படத்தின் விலை 21 லட்சம் டாலர்` என்ற கட்டுரை தினமணியில் உலகப் பலகணி -யின் கீழ் 1992-ம் ஆண்டு ஜூன் 14ம் தேதி வெளியானது. அத்துடன்  , `ரஷியாவை அதிரவைத்த கொலை வழக்குகள்’ இமயமலையில் புற்று நோய்க்கு மருந்து` என்ற கட்டுரைகளும் வெளியாகின. அவைகளை நேற்று வெளியிட்டேன். இன்று பாட்டில் பட ஏலக் கதை:–

Do you want latest Auction Story? (25th October 2019, Metro Newspaper)

A MUSEUM is attempting to buy a rare matchbox-sized book handwritten by Charlotte Brontë.

The Jane Eyre author wrote The Young Men’s Magazine aged 14 in 1830. The tiny tome contains three stories, and is one of five similar surviving volumes.

The Brontë Parsonage Museum is now asking for help to raise funds as the book goes under the hammer in Paris next month, set to sell for at least £650,000.

Actress Dame Judi Dench, president of the Brontë Society, is supporting the bid to ‘bring it back where it belongs’.

She said: ‘I have long been fascinated by the little books. These tiny manuscripts are like a magical doorway into the imaginary worlds they inhabited.’

–subham —

DIWALI IN BRITISH PARLIAMENT- WARNING TO HINDUS! (Post No.7134)

Written by london Swaminathan

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Date: 24 OCTOBER 2019
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Post No. 7134

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I had to attend two Deepa Avali (Lamps Row) functions yesterday; the first one was at the chapel of Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow area of greater London. We do weekly Hindu Bhajan at the chapel every Wednesday and so we did the Diwali (Deepa avali) event yesterday. About 100 patients, staff, volunteers and guests attended the event.

After the prayers, sweets were distributed. An outside Bhajan troupe and Hare Krishna temple priest did the prayers along with weekly volunteers Mrs Annapurani Panchanathan and Mr Balasubramanian.

Participants were very enthusiastic about the individual Aarti in the Damodhar Puja done by  Hare Krishna temple priest. Hindu Chaplain V. V. Swaminathan thanked everyone at the end.

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Bob Blackmaan MP speaking

Inside British Parliament

Every year Hindu Forum of Britain celebrates the Deepavali on the terrace of the British Parliament. Anyone would appreciate the beautiful view of Thames River from the terrace , with colourful ferries running every minute.

Bob Blackman MP and the leader of the Hindu Parliamentary group and Lord Dholakia were the sponsors. Mr Blackman is known to every active Hindu in London. He visits at least nine Hindu temples on Deepavali day. Yesterday he joked in the meeting saying his Diwali begins in September and ends in December every year. He had to attend so many Diwali related events during this period.

While speaking Bob received big applause from the audience for supporting the Indian Government action in Kashmir. He praised the Indian government for giving equal law to every citizen of India. He condemned the planned Pro Pakistani rally towards High Commission of India on Deepavali day (27-10-2019). He told the audience that the government would take appropriate action to prevent any untoward incident.

(During last Pakistani Muslim demonstration, they attacked High Commission building. When Indian PM Modi visited two years ago, they burnt Indian National Flag along with Anti Indian Dravidians and Khalistanis, after everyone left the area).

Bob praised the Hindus for living peacefully without disturbing anyone. He warned the Hindu women to be careful on Diwali day while they visit temples. Lot of Gold Chain snatching incidents happen during that period.

Bob wished everyone Subha Diwali.

Lord Navnit Dolakia, Bob and HFB President Truptiben

Lord Dholakia mentioned about the 39 dead bodies that were found on the day and asked all the Hindus to pray for the departed souls (39 immigrants from East European countries died mysteriously in the frozen compartment of a lorry). He asked Hindus to come forward and take part in politics. He praised the law-abiding Hindus and said even inside the prisons we find very few Hindus where as Muslims occupy 25 percent.

Earlier President of the Hindu Forum Truptiben Patel welcomed the gathering and said the 2 percent Hindus in the country contribute a lot for the development of the country.

(My Comments– Every council in London has got lot of Muslim councillors; the current Mayor of London is of Pakistani origin. Hindus very rarely take part in politics. Most of the National Lottery funding goes to Christian and Muslim organisations. British Government also helps Christian charities which believe in conversions. Oxfam, Christian Aid and many proselytising organisations get government funding.  During Labour rule millions of Muslims were allowed to enter the country as refugees. Muslim chaplains in hospitals and prisons outnumber Christian chaplains. Most of the refugees support the Labour Party. Now they are numerically more. Every Muslim in Britain has got 4 to 16 children whereas Hindus have one or two children).

Another MP (Paul) speaking

–subham–

FOOTPRINTS OF LORD SHIVA & VISHNU IN CAMBODIA (Post No.7129)

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From Sri Rangam

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Foot prints of Gods and Saints are worshipped through out India. We see them from Himalayas to Sivanoli Padam/ Adam’s Peak in Sri Lanka even today. (I have given the links to my earlier articles on Foot prints at the end).

Dr R C Majumdar, historian and author of voluminous books on South East Asia, have given some interesting information about the foot prints of Lord Shiva and Vishnu in South East Asia.

Dr Majumdar says,

“The two oldest inscriptions of Funan are Vaishnavite in character. The first begins with an invocation to Vishnu and records the pious donations of Kula Prabhavati, the Chief Queen of Jaya Varman. She installed a golden image of god in Kurumbanagara, inhabited by Brahmanas and also built an ‘aaraama’ (a park with hermitage) with a tank and a dwelling house.

The next inscription records the consecration of a foot print of Vishnu called Chakra Tirtha Svamin by Guna Varman, probably a son of Jaya Varman and Kula Prabhavati.

The third inscription belonging to the reign of Rudravrman is too fragmentary to yield a complete sense. It begins with an invocation to Buddha and contains the eulogy of a Brahmana and his family.

Worship of Vishnu’s foot print is well known in India. But we also find mention of the foot print of Shiva being held equally sacred in Kambuja (Cambodia). We learn from a record that a pious Brahmana consecrated the representation of a foot of Shiva  and a cistern for the ablution of god , on the top of a hillock. In the Saka year 526 (604 CE), the representation of the divine foot was surrounded by a brick wall. A fine image of Shiva with Parvati, seated on the left thigh of the god, was installed in Saka year 535 (613 CE).

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Vallalar Ramalinga Swamikal’s Footwear.

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CHINA PLUNDERED VIETNAM – TOOK ONE LAKH POUNDS OF GOLD! (Post No.7126)

Vietnamese Crowns from 100 year old book

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Malayan Peninsula was called Swarnabhumi in Indian literature. It is proved by the  temple donations made by the Hindu kings of Vietnam (Champa) and Cambodia (Kamboja).

The booty taken by the Chinese from time to time after the sack of Champa (Vietnam ruled by Hindus was known as Champa) throws interesting light on the wealth and social condition of the country. In 446 CE, they took 1,00,000 pounds of pure gold. In 605 CE they took the golden tablets of eighteen kings,  1350 Buddhist manuscripts and also some musicians.

King Jayavarman VII of Cambodia founded 121 Dharmasalas and 102 hospitals and erected 798 temples according to the inscriptions.

Naked people wore clothes!

An interesting account of the people of Funan is given in a Chinese text composed in the beginning of sixth century CE. It shows the great changes that had come over them as a result of Hindu rule. The most important of these was the wearing of clothes. Men and women went about naked when Kaundinya first landed in the country about the first century. Even the Naga princess (Soma) he married had no clothes on. But we read in the Chinese account mentioned above that the men of noble families use sarong made of brocade. The poor people covered their bodies with a piece of cloth.

(even R C Majumdar, who quoted above passages says that the Chinese are wrong. The people wore minimum clothes and they were not naked)

(My comments- Even Mahatma Gandhi, after seeing Tamil farmers, wearing a piece of cloth, started wearing minimum clothes. And Winston Churchill called him ‘half naked fakir’).

Back to Champa…….

The people were used to luxury. Their articles of trade were gold, silver and silk. They used golden rings and bracelets and silver vessels. They organised cock fight and pig fight for their amusement. They constructed boats 80 to 90 feet long and 6 to 7 feet wide, the front and back of which were shaped like head and tail of a fish. The king lived in a storeyed pavilion. The women also used to ride on elephants.

Chinese accounts

The luxury and wealth of other colonies is also referred to in the Chinese texts. The following account of Po-li is preserved in the History of the Liang Dynasty.

“The king’s name is Kaundinya. He uses the texture of flowered silk wrapped around his body ; on his head he wears a golden bonnet of more than a span high, and adorned with various precious stones (gems). He carries a sword inlaid with gold and sits on a golden throne, with his feet on a silver footstool. His female attendants are adorned with golden flowers and all kind of jewels, some of them holding chowries of white feathers or fans of peacock feathers. When the king goes out, his carriage which is made up of different kinds of fragrant wood, is drawn by an elephant. On the top of it is a flat canopy of feathers, and has embroidered curtains on both sides. People blowing conches and beating drums precede and follow him.

Source book- Ancient Indian Colonisation in South East Asia by DR R C Majumdar, 1953/1954 Lectures

One pound is 453 grams.

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PANDYA & CHOZA INSCRIPTIONS ON SOUTH EAST ASIA (Post No.7125)

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Hindu Rule in South East Asian countries must be made a compulsory subject in India. Students must study it from the high school days, the history, stage by stage because it is a 1500 year long history covering nearly eight countries and their relationship with India and China. The glory of Tamils will also be revealed through this study.

Choza and Pandya kings had powerful naval forces and they were able to defeat kings in Indonesia by sending forces from the mainland. Tamil king Sri Maran began the long history in Vietnam (Champa). He was taken there by saints like Agastya and Kaundinya. The names of these two Brahmin saints are all over South East Asian countries.

After the earliest inscription of Sri Maran (Pandya) in second century CE we come across Pandya and Choza inscriptions only from tenth century. Probably cordial relationship existed between the Kings in mainland and kings in South East Asia (S.E.A.) till that time.

Two inscriptions of Rajendra Choza (in India), dated  1017 and 1022 respectively, refer to his conquest in Kataha or Kadaram (Keddah in Malayan peninsula). Several inscriptions of later period  beginning from 1024-5 CE give a detailed account of his oversea conquests, giving a long list of countries conquered by him.

Rajendra Choza sent a big naval expedition and defeated Sangama Vijayottunga Varman, the King of Kadaram. Then follow the 13 countries or places won by him,  beginning with Sri Vijaya and ending with Kadram (covering the areas of present day Cambodia, Thailand ,Malaysia and Indonesia).

Source – Thiruvalangadu Plates dated 1017-18

The great oversea victory is a unique event in the annals of Indian history. It proves the existence of a powerful naval forces in ancient India.

Two inscriptions of Vira Rajendra  inform us that sometime before 1069-79 CE , he conquered Kadaram on behalf of a king who sought his help. This shows some power struggle there even after Rajendra Choza’s victory.

Half a century after this,  Choza  Kulottunga (1070-1118) also talk of destroying Kadaram.

Chinese chronicles refer to this place as the kingdom of San-fo-tsi. The king who ruled this kingdom was Sili- Tieh- wa (Sri Deva).

Sri Deva may be Rajendra Choza, according to Dr R C Majumdar, the authority on S E A history.

Pandyan Naval Forces

The Ceylonese chronicles have preserved an interesting account of two invasions of Ceylon by a king of Javaka , called Chandrabhanu , about 1236 and 1256. In an inscription dated 1264 CE, Jatavarman Vira Pandya of South India claims to have killed the Savaka (Java) king, and in another inscription , dated the next year, the king of Kadaram was said to have been defeated by him. It must be Chandrabhanu who was killed.

Arab writers used Zabag for Javaka (te present day Java ,part of Indonesia).

An inscription of Chnadrabhanu has been found at Chaiya near Ligor and it has been dated 1230 CE. The king has been identified with the Javaka king of that name. He is said to have been born in the family of lotus and called Lord of Tambralinga. This seems to indicate the head quarters of Javaka (zabag) were in Malayan peninsula

(My comment:- Tambra= Lotus= Thamarai in Tamil)

The lists of Tamil and Sanskrit inscriptions of Malayan Peninsula are in Wikipedia:-

Sanskrit inscriptions: –

Ligor, Kedah, Kutai Tugu inscriptions

Tamil inscriptions:-

Neusu, Kedah, Barus inscriptions.

Source Book R C Majumdar’s Ancient Indian Colonisation in S E A.

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Singapore is Sanskrit (Post No.7109)

Shiva in Singapore Museum

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All the encyclopaedias attribute the source of the name Singapore to the Sanskrit word Simhapura (Lion city). Singapore’s old history goes back to about 1300 CE. A prince from Sumatra island of Indonesia by name Sri Tri Bhuvana (also known as Sanga Neela Uttama) founded the Kingdom of Singapura (Lion Kingdom) in 1299. But the individual port cities are named at least for 2000 years. On either side of Singapore were powerful Hindu empires from the first century.

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Simhapura is also interpreted as Sringa Puri (Horn of the Malayan peninsula). There is a debate this name- how come he named Simha (lion) to a place where there are no lions. The reason for this is,  lion is always associated with Kingship. The word Kesari (Kesa+ ari) meant Hair animal. That was the title of many Indian kings and Roman Kings. Kesari became Caesar in the West. We come across many Caesars including the most famous Julius Caesar/Kesari. Even Si Lanka, which has no lions, named itself as Simhala Desa (Lion country) 2500 years ago. People who don’t know the Hindu stories of Lion King gave stupid interpretations in Singapore and Ceylon (Sri Lanka). Singapore and Sri Lanka have lion in their flags or emblems. It simply means heroism with lion like kings.

More interesting is the word Malaya. This word has its origin both in Tamil and Sanskrit. In Tamil, it meant mountain and the most famous Malaya Parvata (Hill) is mentioned in both Tamil and Sanskrit literature. It has become synonymous with Sandal wood and southern breeze. In Tamil ‘Malai’ is mountain/hill. Since Malaya is divided by a mountain range Tamils might have called it Malaya desa. But the Sanskrit word Malaya has more meaning. It is in Mahabharata and many Sanskrit stories. Even King Rishabadeva’s son was called Malaya. Pandya kings had Malai (hill) in their flags and one Pandya was called Malayadwaja (one with mountain flag).

More interesting is the discovery of several Tamil and Sanskrit inscriptions in Malayan peninsula.

One of the oldest Hindu Kingdoms in the peninsula is mentioned in the Chinese History of the Liang Dynasty (502-556 CE) as lang- ya su. Later Malay and Javanese chronicles refereed to it as Lankasuka (Pleasure Island). Rajendra Choza won this place in 12th century and his Tamil inscription mentioned it as Lankasokam.

Two other Hindu kingdoms are mentioned in Chinese Chronicles Pan-pan where Brahmanas from India came to get gifts from the munificent king. Another one was Pa-hoang (Pahang). Sari – Pala- Varman sent an embassy to China from here in 449 CE.

Though a kingdom called Kantoli sent embassies to China, scholars are not able to identify it.

Only fragmentary Sanskrit inscriptions are available from Malaya. The Indian alphabets on them are ascribed to 4th or 5th centuries. Seven of the inscriptions were found in the centre, four in the northern part of Province Wellesley. Five of them were found in Ligor, two in Chaiya and one each in Keddah and Takua pa, according to R C Majumdar.

Other significant founds include a Cornelian seal in Perak with the Hindu name Sri Vishnu Varman. The characters point to fifth century. Slightly later in date is an inscription found near Keddah containing three verses from a Sutra of Madhyamika school. (We have one Sanskrit inscription of Kulothunga Choza period according to Wikipedia).

Swarnabhumi (Golden land) is used to refer to several regions from Malaya to Sumatra. At one time Malaya was also called Swarnabhumi.

(I will write about the Tamil Inscriptions in Malaya separately).

Xxx Subham xxx

SKANDA IN VIETNAM LOST HIS HEAD IN 1988 (Post No.7107)

Skanda with head

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Lord Skanda (also known as Muruga, Kartikeya, Kumara, Guha) lost his head in 1988. His Vahana peacock also lost its head but the beautiful feather of his Vahana is still intact. The original pictures are with head intact. No book gives the details of this lost head. They hope that it would turn up one day. But I doubt it.

My Son is a place in Vietnam where lot of Hindu statues ere discovered in 1903. Numerous sculptures emerged from the thick vegetation when Henri Parmentier and Charles Carpeaux cleared the bushes. Among them was the statue of Skanda and the broken piece of peacock’s feather. Skanda and another statue of Ganesa were photographed by Charles Carpeaux.

“Peacock is beautifully sculpted in stone. With legs folded the bird is sadly without its head, originally reaching god’s hips, which was not found during excavations. A fine network of incisions into the stone running over the bird’s body evokes with precision the characteristic plumage of the bird; on the back it yields a formal play of great beauty.

The vajra he holds in hiss right hand and the five chignons also assist in identifying him. Skanda in his young appearance as Kumara wears several  pieces of jewellery. The head sadly lost in about 1988  once bore particular earrings, mixing flower motifs and pendants with pears inserted into elongate lobes.

One can only hope that the head of this piece, happily known and published for a long period, might one day be recovered.

  • Vibrancy in stone.
  • Skanda in Danang Museum in Vietnam
old picture with head.