VIOLENCE IN RIG VEDA AND TAMIL VEDA AGAINST THE MISERS! (Post No.4323)

Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 21 October 2017

 

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Post No. 4323

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Rig Veda is the oldest religious book; and that is the oldest anthology. It is full of mystery and history. It shows a civilised society with very high values. The Vedic seers praised hospitality and charity. They made it one of the six tasks for Brahmins; they can accept donation but they must also give. Tamil literature also praised hospitality and charity. Tamils consider Tirukkural, the didactic book with 1330 couplets, as the Tamil Veda. It is authored by Tiruvalluvar, the greatest of the Tamil poets. Though Rig Veda and Tamil Veda are thousands of years apart, the values remained same throughout the vast land, then the world’s largest country.

 

The Vedic and Tamil poets were dead against the misers. They went even to the extent of preaching violence against the stingy fellows. The poets of the Rig Veda and Tamil Veda advocates arm twisting and jaw breaking tactics to extract money from the parsimonious and penurious lot.

Rig Veda says,

When will Indra trample, like a weed; the man who hath no gifts for him? RV 1-84-8

“Slay the niggards”- says another Vedic seer 1-184-2

“Wealth comes not to the niggard, unpleasant man” – RV 7-32-21

 

There are hundreds of places where the hospitality and charity are praised and penny-pinching, cheese-paring, ungenerous lot condemned.

 

Break the jaw; Crush him like Sugarcane: Valluvar

Tamil poet Tiruvaluvar never hesitated to advocate violence against the mean-minded, close fisted, Scrooge like fellows; he says in a Tirukkural couplet,

“At a mere word the good melt; but the mean, like the sugarcane, yield only under pressure” – 1078

Another translation of the same couplet: “Good men of virtue give charity at the mere call for help, but ignoble ones, will give only when crushed like sugarcane”.

Another couplet runs like this:

“The mean will not even shake off what sticks to their hands to any but those who would break their jaws with their clenched fists”- 1077

Another translation of the same couplet: Except to those who twist their hands and break their jaws, mean characters, will not even shake their food-moistened fingers.

 

S M Diaz in his Tirukkural commentary says “The well-known description of a bad miser in Tamil Nadu is that he will not even shake the hand with which he ate his food lest some starving crow should pick it up and eat. The idea is that the very fact that somebody will benefit from any action of theirs is repugnant to them. In this Kural/couplet, Valluvar has combined it, with certain other adverse qualifications of the miser, that he will part with that he has only to those, who are capable of twisting his hands and breaking his jaws. That is the only language, which he will understand”.

Tolkappiam and Bhagavad Gita

Oldest Tamil book Tolkappiam also says that those who don’t give will be shunned and those who give would be praised (Sutra 1036)

 

In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna says those who cook for themselves, verily eat sin (B.G.3-13)

 

Manu also says the same: “The person who cooks only for himself eats nothing but sin, for the food left over from sacrifice is the food intended for good men”- Manu 3-118

 

2000 years ago, Tamil poet Ilamperu Vazuthi (Purananuru verse 182) said that Tamils wouldn’t eat alone even if they get Indra’s Amrta (ambrosia from the Indraloka); Giving and sharing was in their blood.

 

–Subham–

 

 

What is Fruitless Charity? (Post No.3656)

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Date: 21 FEBRUARY 2017

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Post No. 3656

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Following three types of charity are fruitless:–

 

Datvaa tapyate pascaat-

1.Distressed having given charity

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2.Given to an undeserving person

Asraddhayaa daanam

3.Given without reverence

 

Yaddhrutvaa tapyate pascaadapaatrebyastadaa ca hat

Asraddhayaa ca yaddhaanam daananaasaastrayastvamii

 

 

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From my earlier post dated May 9, 2016

Overstepping the rules of Charity

Mahabharata says that there are two things which violate the scriptural instructions.

Apaatre pratipatti – giving to the undeserving

Paatre apratipatti – not giving to the deserving

Labdhanaamapi vittaanaam boddhauyau dvaatkramau

Apaatrepratipattisca patre chaapratipadanam

Mahabharata, Shaanti parva, 26-31

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From my earlier post dated Feb.27, 2016

Five Defects in Dhana/Donation/Charity

Anaadaro vilambhasca vaimukhyam chaapriyam ca

Paschaath bhavati santaapo daanaduushana panchakam

 

Anaadara – giving with disrecpect

Vimabah – Delay in giving

Vaimukha – non -importance

Apriyamvacah – giving with harsh words

Pascaat santaapa – distress after giving

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Charateristics of Charity

 

Aanadasruuni romaani  bahumaanam priyamvacah

Kinchaanumodanam daanamdaanabhuusana panchakam

 

Aanadaasruuni – tears of joy

Romaani- horripulation

Bahumaanam – respect

Priymavacah – pleasing words

Anumodanam – acceptance

 

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Ten Tamil Sayings (from Tirukkural)

1.Giving to the poor is real charity. All other gifts are investments for return

2.Receiving gifts is undesirable. Giving is desirable even if heavenly bliss may thereby denied.

 

3.Only the truly noble will give till it hurts,

Without pleading straitened circumstances

4.It may be unpleasant to be egged of , but that is only till

The distress-relieved face of the receiver lights up in radiance

5.Great are they who hunger’s pangs sustain

But greater those who relieve hunger’s pain

6.By relieving people of their devastating hunger

One lays by valuable possessions as investment

7.The man who is in the habit of sharing his food with others will never be afflicted with the disease called hunger

  1. Delight of charity they do not know

Who hoard their wealth and lose it so

9.Enjoying alone the hoarded wealth, without giving others is worse than begging

10.Death is painful; but even that will be pleasant to one

Who finds himself unable to relieve the distress of others.

 

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31 CHARITY QUOTATIONS Posted on 29 July 2015

 

–Subham–

Two Types of Thieves! Two Types of Knowledge! (Post No.2796)

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Written by london swaminathan

 

Date: 9 May 2016

 

Post No. 2796

 

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Sanskrit literature gives us very interesting information about thieves, knowledge and charity.

Thieves are of two types:-

Prakaasa – explicit

Aprakaasa – invisible

The Sanskrit saying goes thus:-

“Prakaasaascaprakaasaasca dvividhaastaskaraah smrutaah”

 

My view is corrupt politicians are day light robbers ie. Prakaasa

Night time thieves are invisible i.e Aprakaasa

 

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Knowledge

Knowledge is said to be of two types: Saabdika – verbal (even Vedic and other Sastras transmitted verbally) and Anubhava – experience.

In the olden days lot of things were learnt on the job i.e. through experience.

 

Vedic and other subsidiary scriptures were learnt through verbal teaching. But yet experience counted more than bookish knowledge.

 

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AVVAI, BATTICAOLA,S.L.

Avvai statue in Batticaola, Sri Lanka

Overstepping the rules of Charity

Mahabharata says that there are two things which violate the scriptural instructions.

Apaatre pratipatti – giving to the undeserving

Paatre apratipatti – not giving to the deserving

Labdhanaamapi vittaanaam boddhauyau dvaatkramau

Apaatrepratipattisca patre chaapratipadanam

Mahabharata, Shaanti parva, 26-31

 

Tamil proverbs also concur with this view. Tamil poets were very strict about giving. One poet says that Ay, the chieftain, was not a ‘Charity businessman’ who expects something when he gives a donation. Ay gives to the poor to get rid of poverty and not expecting a good place in the heaven or good rebirth.

 

Another poet says that even if there is no heaven (for those who give), it is good to give (donate).

 

We see lot of poets praising Dhana/ donation in the Vedas. It is good to see the same concept existed throughout the vast land of India for thousands of years. Majority of the 80,000 Tamil inscriptions talk about donation to Brahmins or temples. Tamil poets of Sangam age praised donating to the poor. Seven chieftains were called the Last Seven Philanthropists. One of them was Ay.

 

The first lesson the Vedic students taught was Do Charity, “Dharmam Chara”. Later Tamil poetess Avvaiyar translated this and put it as the first advice to youngsters in her Athichudi.

–subham–

 

Rules about Dhana/ Charity in Hindu Literature (Post No.2580)

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Post No. 2580

 

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Daanaduusana:-Five Defects in Dhana/Donation/Charity

Anaadaro vilambhasca vaimukhyam chaapriyam ca

Paschaath bhavati santaapo daanaduushana panchakam

 

Anaadara – giving with disrecpect

Vimabah – Delay in giving

Vaimukha – non -importance

Apriyamvacah – giving with harsh words

Pascaat santaapa – distress after giving

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Daanabhuusanam:- Charateristics of Charity

 

Aanadasruuni romaani  bahumaanam priyamvacah

Kinchaanumodanam daanamdaanabhuusana panchakam

 

Aanadaasruuni – tears of joy

Romaani- horripulation

Bahumaanam – respect

Priymavacah – pleasing words

Anumodanam – acceptance

 

Xxx

 

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Ten Tamil Sayings (from Tirukkural)

1.Giving to the poor is real charity. All other gifts are investments for return

2.Receiving gifts is undesirable. Giving is desirable even if heavenly bliss may thereby denied.

 

3.Only the truly noble will give till it hurts,

Without pleading straitened circumstances

4.It may be unpleasant to be egged of , but that is only till

The distress-relieved face of the receiver lights up in radiance

5.Great are they who hunger’s pangs sustain

But greater those who relieve hunger’s pain

6.By relieving people of their devastating hunger

One lays by valuable possessions as investment

7.The man who is in the habit of sharing his food with others will never be afflicted with the disease called hunger

  1. Delight of charity they do not know

Who hoard their wealth and lose it so

9.Enjoying alone the hoarded wealth, without giving others is worse than begging

10.Death is painful; but even that will be pleasant to one

Who finds himself unable to relieve the distress of others.

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Giving Food is the Greatest Charity

Following quotations are already posted in my August 2015 calendar (post no 2027)

 

1.The charity of food is great, that of knowledge is greater – SUBHASITA RATNA BHANDAKARA.21

Annadaanam param daanam, vidyaa daanam atahparam

2.Gifts are not to be given with disrespect or ridicule

Avanjayaa na daatavyam kasyacilliilayaapi vaa

3.Does not the season of spring deserve at least a gift of flowers? PADMAPRAABHRTAKA

4.What is not given away is as good as lost! – AJITA TIRTHANKARA PURANA

Tannashtam yanna diiyate

5.Generosity is the ultimate virtue –SUBHASITARATNAKHANDAMANJUSA

Sakalagunasiimaa vitaranam

 

 

6.What has been given should never be taken back –Brhat Katha Manjari

Dattam naiva punar graahyam

7.The merit of what is gifted accrues to the donor –Brhat Katha Manjari

Dattam yattatphalam samupesyati

8.Give and expect not, utter truth and not falsehood – Valmiki Ramayana 5-33-25

Dadyaanna pratigrhniiyaat satyam bruuyaanna caantram

9.Generosity begets everything; what is gained by hoarding? RAMAYANA MANJARI 42-1074

Dattamaasaadyate sarvamadatte labhyate kutah

10.Sing ditties of the donor –KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Daaturgeyam yaso nityam

 

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11.Everything is accomplished by the interactions of givers and takers – Valmiki Ramayana 1-73-12

Daatrpratigrahiitrbhyaam sarvaarthaah sambhavanyi hi

  1. Giving instantly is a great blessing — KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Siighra daanam mahaapunyam

13.Charity is the coomonest form of winning over people –DHURTANARTAKA

Daanam naama sarvasaamaanyam vasiikaranam

14.Authority over an object rests with the owner before donating –KAHAVATRATNAKA

Daanaatpuurvam daaturevaadhikaarah

15.Though difficult to part with, give away when begged for –SATOPADESAPRABHANDA

 

Dustyajamapyarthine deyam

16.Life is more precious than benevolence

Najivitaaddaanamihaatiricyate

17.A gift is not enjoined in favour of those richly endowed with wealth – Valmiki Ramayana 5-341-3

Na daanamarthopacitesu yujyate

18.That which is not given away will never remain yours — CANAKYANITI 2-49

Na dattamupatishthate

  1. A gift to the wealthy is futile –CANAKYA NITI 11-12

Vrthaa daanam dhanaadhyesu

 

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20.The generous become blessed only by giving to the deserved — VISWAGUNAADARASACHAMPU 46.s544

Paatre dattairbhavati hi dhanairdhanyataa bhuuridatuh

 

21.What is greater sacrifice than offering one’s own life? –KATHASARITSAGAR

Praana daanaadhi dharmah kobhyadhiko Bhavet

22.By giving a little, you save a lot  – SATOPADESAPRABHANDA

Bahu raksedalpadaanena

23.Give only that which is sought; giving the unsought pleases not –JATAKAMAALAA

Yadeva yaacyeta tadeva dhadyannaanipsitampriinayatiiha dattam

24.Saves a little, gives a lot — KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Raksatyalpam yacchati bahulam

25.People talk sweetly as long as the giver gives freely —-SUBASITARATNABHANDAKARA 3-792

Vitarati yaavaddaataa taavatsakalopi bhavati kalabhaasii

 

–Subham–

31 CHARITY QUOTATIONS

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August 2015 Calendar

Compiled by London swaminathan

Date : 29th July 2015

Post No. 2027

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Important Days:-

Ekadasi:– 10 and 26;  Auspicious days:– 20, 21, 27

Full moon:–29;  New moon:– 14 Adi amavasai

Important days:- August 3 Adipperukku; 15 Indian Independence Day; 16 Adi puram ; 28 Onam festival and  Varalaksmi vratam, Rik Upakarma; 29

Yajur Upakarma, Raksha Bandhan and Avani Avittam; 30 Gayatri Japam

August 1 Saturday

The charity of food is great, that of knowledge is greater – SUBHASITA RATNA BHANDAKARA.21

Annadaanam param daanam, vidyaa daanam atahparam

August 2 Sunday

Gifts are not to be given with disrespect or ridicule

Avanjayaa na daatavyam kasyacilliilayaapi vaa

August 3 Monday

Does not the season of spring deserve at least a gift of flowers? PADMAPRAABHRTAKA

August 4 Tuesday

What is not given away is as good as lost! – AJITA TIRTHANKARA PURANA

Tannashtam yanna diiyate

August 5 Wednesday

Great are they who hunger’s pangs sustain,

But greater those who relieve hunger’s pain —Tirukkural 225

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August 6 Thursday

What has been given should never be taken back –Brhat Katha Manjari

Dattam naiva punar graahyam

August 7 Friday

The merit of what is gifted accrues to the donor –Brhat Katha Manjari

Dattam yattatphalam samupesyati

August 8 Saturday

Give and expect not, utter truth and not falsehood – Valmiki Ramayana 5-33-25

Dadyaanna pratigrhniiyaat satyam bruuyaanna caantram

August 9 Sunday

Generosity begets everything; what is gained by hoarding? RAMAYANA MANJARI 42-1074

Dattamaasaadyate sarvamadatte labhyate kutah

August 10 Monday

Sing ditties of the donor –KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Daaturgeyam yaso nityam

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August 11 Tuesday

Everything is accomplished by the interactions of givers and takers – Valmiki Ramayana 1-73-12

Daatrpratigrahiitrbhyaam sarvaarthaah sambhavanyi hi

August 12 Wednesday

Delight of charity they do not know,

Who hoard their wealth and lose it so — Tirukkural 228

August 13 Thursday

Charity is the coomonest form of winning over people –DHURTANARTAKA

Daanam naama sarvasaamaanyam vasiikaranam

August 14 Friday

Authority over an object rests with the owner before donating –KAHAVATRATNAKA

Daanaatpuurvam daaturevaadhikaarah

August 15 Saturday

Though difficult to part with, give away when begged for –SATOPADESAPRABHANDA

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Dustyajamapyarthine deyam

August 16 Sunday

Life is more precious than benevolence

Najivitaaddaanamihaatiricyate

August 17 Monday

A gift is not enjoined in favour of those richly endowed with wealth – Valmiki Ramayana 5-341-3

Na daanamarthopacitesu yujyate

August 18 Tuesday

That which is not given away will never remain yours — CANAKYANITI 2-49

Na dattamupatishthate

August 19 Wednesday

Giving to the poor is charity. All other gifts are investments for return – Tirukkural 221

August 20 Thursday

The generous become blessed only by giving to the deserved — VISWAGUNAADARASACHAMPU 46.s544

Paatre dattairbhavati hi dhanairdhanyataa bhuuridatuh

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August 21 Friday

What is greater sacrifice than offering one’s own life? –KATHASARITSAGAR

Praana daanaadhi dharmah kobhyadhiko Bhavet

August 22 Saturday

By giving a little, you save a lot  – SATOPADESAPRABHANDA

Bahu raksedalpadaanena

August 23 Sunday

Give only that which is sought; giving the unsought pleases not –JATAKAMAALAA

Yadeva yaacyeta tadeva dhadyannaanipsitampriinayatiiha dattam

August 24 Monday

Saves a little, gives a lot — KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Raksatyalpam yacchati bahulam

August 25 Tuesday

People talk sweetly as long as the giver gives freely —-SUBASITARATNABHANDAKARA 3-792

Vitarati yaavaddaataa taavatsakalopi bhavati kalabhaasii

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August 26 Wednesday

The high born will neither ask for charity owing their poverty, nor will they refrain from giving when approached by the poor — Tirukkural 223

August 27 Thursday

A gift to the wealthy is futile –CANAKYA NITI 11-12

Vrthaa daanam dhanaadhyesu

August 28 Friday

Giving instantly is a great blessing — KAHAVATRATNAKAR

Siighra daanam mahaapunyam

August 29 Saturday

Generosity is the ultimate virtue –SUBHASITARATNAKHANDAMANJUSA

Sakalagunasiimaa vitaranam

August 30 Sunday

Sarvesu daanesvabhaya pradaanam

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August 31 Monday

The man who is in the habit of sharing his food with others will never be afflicted with the dire disease called hunger —  TIRUKKURAL 227