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FROG MYSTERY IN VEDAS; FROG IN CREMATORIUM AND CANAL CEREMONY -1(Post No.10,332)

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Post No. 10,332

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THE MOST FAMOUS FROG SONG IN THE RIG VEDA (RV.7-103), THE OLDEST BOOK IN THE WORLD, IS KNOWN TO ALL SCHOLARS. (I have compared it with the Greek Frog writing of Aristophanes in this blog a few years ago). BUT TWO MYSTERIOUS REFERENCES TO FROG IN THE CREMATORIUM AND IN THE CANAL OPENING CEREMONY ARE STRANGE AND NOT EXPLAINED SATISFACTORILY. I AM COMPARING IT WITH THE FROG GODDESS HEQET OF EGYPT AS WELL.

HYMN 13 IN THE THIRD BOOK OF ATHARVAVEDA WHERE THE CANAL FROG CEREMONY IS REFERRED TO IS IMPORTANT FOR ANOTHER REASON; ETYMOLOGY OF WORDS ON WATER IS ALSO AVAILABLE HERE .

RV= Rig Veda; AV= Atharva(na) Veda

Please read the hymn first :-

STANZA 1: why are the rivers known as Nadi in Sanskrit

STANZA 2: why is the water known as Apa in Sanskrit

STANZA 3: : why are the rivers known as Var in Sanskrit

STANZA 4: why is water known as Udaka in Sanskrit

STANZA 5:  Water is Honey, Soma

STANZA 6: Water is Gold; Water is Amrit (Elixir of Life)

STANZA 7: Please follow the way in the canal dug out no

WATER ETYMOLOGY !

13. To the waters.

1. Since formerly , going forth together, ye resounded (nad) when the dragon was slain, thenceforth ye are streams (nadī́) by name: these are your names, O rivers.


2. When, sent forth by Varuna, ye thereupon  quickly skipped together, then Indra obtained (āp) you as ye went; therefore are ye waters (ā́p) afterward.


3. As ye were flowing perversely (apakāmám), since Indra verily hindered (var) you by his powers, you, ye divine ones, therefore the name water (vā́r) is assigned you.


4. The one god stood up to you, flowing at [your] will; “the great ones have breathed up (ud-an),” said he; therefore water (udaká) is [so] called.


5. The waters [are] excellent; the waters verily were ghee; these waters verily bear Agni-and-Soma; may the strong (tīvrá) satisfying savor (rása) of the honey-mixed  come to me along with breath, with splendor.


6. Then indeed I see, or also hear; unto me comes the noise, to me the voice of them; I think myself then to have partaken ambrosia (amṛ́ta) when, ye gold-colored ones, I have enjoyed  you.


7. This, O waters, [is] your heart, this your young (vatsá), ye righteous ones; come thus hither, ye mighty ones, where I now make you enter.

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MY COMMENTS

ANOTHER TRANSLATION

HYMN XIIIScroll Up, Book  3

A benediction on a newly cut water channel

1.As ye, when Ahi had been slain, flowed forth together with a roar,

So are ye called the Roaring Ones: this, O ye Rivers, is your name.

2.As driven forth by Varuna ye swiftly urged your rolling waves,

There Indra reached you as you flowed; hence ye are still the Water-floods.

3.Indra restrained you with his might. Goddesses, as ye glided on

Not in accordance with his will: hence have ye got the name of Streams.

4.One only God set foot on you flowing according to your will,

The mighty ones breathed upward fast: hence; Water is the name they bear.

5.Water is good, water indeed is fatness. Agni and Soma, truly,both bring water.

May the strong rain of those who scatter sweetness come helpful unto me with breath and vigour.

6.Then verily, I see, yea, also hear them: their sound approaches me, their voice comes hither.

Even then I think I am enjoying Amrit, what time I drink my fill of you, gold coloured!

7.Here,O ye Waters,is your heart. Here is your calf, ye holy ones.

Flow here, just here, O mighty Streams, whither I now am leading you.

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My Comments

Hindus are great linguistic scholars; they give humorous, funny and sometimes informative and thought provoking explanations to words. Yaska and Manu also did it. Satapata Brahmana also has such explanations. That shows they were highly educated. If we compare the literature of the same period in other parts of the world ,we don’t find such scholarly interpretations.

Manu gives etymology of words such as Jaya, Putra etc.

Kausika sutra,written later, gives explanations to most of the mantras in the AV. Here Kausika Sutra explains the practical part of the ceremony. The canal is already dug, and the water of the river is to be admitted. The new channel which the river is to fill is now dear to you  (words calf and heart are used in the seventh stanza/mantra) . It is as lovable as a calf to its mother cow. This cow and calf simile occurs all through the RV as well. Vaatsalyam is a word used by Hindus to mention affection; Vatsa is calf.

When the Vedic priests recite this mantra, GOLD is deposited  in the canal. Then a FROG tied with BLUE AND RED THREADS is released. That frog is covered with an aquatic plant called AVAKAA / SEVALA.

Avakaa is identified by ancient commentators as Vallisneria Octandra.

Stanza /mantra five is in Tamil Tirukkural No.11:-

“As the falling rain sustains the world

It must be deemed the Amrita “(nectar of life)-Kural 11

Bhagavad Gita also (3-14) praises rain.

The use of Vallisneria in this ceremony is also significant. It is used nowadays in all aquariums. It supports fish and other water creatures.

But no one could explain the godl and red-blue thread. Even if we think that the gold will go to the priest why this Vallisneria plant and why blue and thread are not explained. A lot of things are left out without explanation. it is because they lost the meaning in course of time, or this needs no explaining because everybody knows it!

We come across Var in Stanza 3. That is in Tamil as well. Aaaru for river in Tamil is pronounced as Varu in some places. Moreover Vaari/Maari for rain and water is also in Tamil.

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FROG IN CREMATORIUM!

This is a very strange thing. It is in RV (10-16), as a funeral hymn.

Mantra 14 (10-16-14)

“O full of coolness, thou cool plant, full of fresh moisture, freshening Herb.

Come hither with the FEMALE FROG; fill with delight this Agni here”.

Mantra 13

“Cool, Agni, and again refresh the spot which though hast scorched and burnt

Here let the water lily grow and tender grass and leafy herb”

Ralph T H Griffith explains :-

14.Fill with delight = euphemistically extinguish. After the fire has consumed the corpse, water is poured upon it to extinguish it. Then furthermore certain water plants are put there. In addition to this a FEMALE FROG, elsewhere a male, is put upon the place where the fire has burned. These , as representatives of life in the waters, are symbolically supposed both to prevent and extinguish fire ( M Bloomfield, 1890).

13. Plant names:-

Kiyaambu, Paakaduurvaa (Panicum Dactylum), Vyalkasa

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My comments

I don’t know whether Bloomfield and Griffith are right in their interpretations. Only the priests who do such ceremonies could explain it. Most of them pass the information by word of mouth from generation to generation. ( I have already written about the leafy boat I saw in my mother’s ceremony in the crematorium and the priests explanation to it which coincided with ancient Egyptian literature.

Another interesting FROG hymn gives strange names to FROGS which no one could explain; and in another hymn six Snake names are found, of which two are in Sumer names. Early translators could not explain them, and they interpreted some as onomatopoeic words. But hey have more meaning in to it. We must do more research.

In the next part I will compare it with Egyptian Frog Goddess Heqet which is in fact a Hindu Goddess

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Vallisneria Plant

MY OLD ARTICLES ON FROGS

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RAMA’S MARCH TO EGYPT AND SUMERIA! (Post.9468)

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Post No. 9468

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Lord Rama’s name is found in all ancient literature in the world. A deep study shows how the name has been changed, corrupted and mispronounced during the past 2000 years. We all know how the Ramayana characters are spelt in Ramkien of South East Asia. It is easy to identify them because it is a living culture. Ramayana sculptures, dramas, theatres, stamps and names of people are available there . So we know who is who. But in Sumeria (southern Iraq) and Egypt (in Africa) many names were corrupted beyond recognition.

So, I like Isaac Newton formed a new law. You may call it ‘Swamintha Newton’s fourth Law of Motion’.

“Longer the distance a name goes, more corrupted it becomes” is the law I made.

My friends in Malaysia write Tamayanti instead of Damayanthi, Puvana in Mauritius in stead of Bhuvana, Tenuka in Sri Lanka in stead of Dhenuka, Souupramoniam instead of Subrahmanyam in Paris or French ruled Indian territory of Pondichery. There are various reasons for this, which is not going to be a part of this essay.

Rama’s name is changed to Rim in Sumerian.

Bharata’s name is changed to Varad in Sumerian.

Most of us know that B=V.

Bengal is Vanga in Tamil and Sanskrit.

But the change is natural. Even 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature has Bandi/cart instead of Vandi/cart. Paninian Grammar also shows several place names with B/V change.

There was a very good article titled RAMA, THE GREAT KING OF SUMER, ELAM AND INDUS by Ranajit Pal (published in Sunday Statesman in 1992). I am commenting on it with my additional inputs in this article.

The biggest blunder the author committed was that he interpreted everything as Middle Eastern and Rama  or his story migrated to India.

And another drawback is he missed Mitannian names and Egyptian names.

First let me give the names given by him (Ranajit Pal)-

Arya – Ram- anna = ancestor of Darius I of Pre Islamic Iran

Ram Yast= Zoroastrian Calendar= Ram and Vayu= Rama and Hanuman/Vayu Kumara

Ram Bzrang = A Kurdish Tribe in Fars.

Ram -names, Ram-ardashir, Ram-hormuzd, Ram-peroz, Rema, Ruma gam= Sasanian Cities.

Ram – sahristan = famed capital of the Surens

Ram- alla= two towns in Palestne and on the banks of Euphrates River.

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Sumerian King List

Ram Sin from Elam- ruled for 60 years

Bharat /warad Sin – ruled for  12 years (1834-1822 BC

Dasaratha Jataka also said Rama ruled years sixty times hundred and ten thousand more.

Agade = capital of Sargon = Ayodhya.

Ram -Ravana Yuddha – 1794  BC

Raghupati Rama = Laghumal

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Ragupati Rama in the Bible

At that time Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar/Larsa, Kedorlaomer king of Elam and Tidal, king of Goyim went to war against Bera king of Sodom, Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, Shmeber king of Zeboiim and the king of Bea (tha is Zoar)

Amraphel is Hammurabi-ilu according to many scholars.

Babaylonian Legends

Kudur- laghumal= above mentioned Kedorlaomer king of Elam.

Two tablets mention Eri Aku, son of Durmah-ilani= Dharma

Tudhula= above mentioned Tidal

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Durmah -ilani= Dasaratha , father of Rama

Buddha and Babylonia

Kudur Mabuk = a tribal Shaikh

Gotama Buddha was a Sakya (shaikh)

Gotama was called Bhagava= corresponds to Baghapa of Babylonia

Mabuk-= Maha bhaga

Dasaratha might have controlled ten territories; that is why ten chariots in his name

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Ram chapel was excavated by Sir Leonard Woolley.

This may be in memory of Ram sin of Larsa.

Joan oates has published Ram chapel picture in Babylon (page 77)

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Sita in Sumeria and  Rig Veda

The Rig Veda (xvii) refers to an Asura named Rama

RV refers to Sita 4-57-6 (auspicious Sita, come thou near, we venerate and worship you.

Warad sin’s was consecrated as high priestess of the Moon God (sin) at Ur under the name Enanedu

The first known chief priestess was Hedu- ann, sister of Rimush.

There survives a number of hymns composed by her in fluent Sumerian which makes her first literary figure of history.

1500 years after her demise, King Nabonindus recorded how he searched for and recovered her memorial.

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Rock cut relief at Kurangun

A god sits on a throne formed by the coils of a serpent  which he holds by the neck. He also holds a vessel from which two streams of water flow. One strem forms a canopy over the god and goddessbehind him and is probably caught. In a vessel held by an attendant.

Throne formed by the coils of serpent reminds us of Hanuman seated on a coil of his tail.

Pig tailed igures in the relief may be Vanaras (Amorites)

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Mohenjadao= Maha Anga Dvara

During Elamite rule Kurangan was  a dual capital with Susa

Ram -Sin (Rama Chndran) ws an Eamite king

Sasanian city Ram sahriastan may be Surya sthana

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Vali and Kishkinda

In Sumerian myth Bali, son of Etanah, ruled Kish for 400 years.

It may be Ramayana Kishki nda

Ilu -Ma- Ilu , the Hanuman of the epic

Cuneiform symbol for ilu can also be read AN

So  Joan Oates read it as Illiman ; it may be Hanuman

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Ravana was the great maw maker Hammurabi, son of Mubalit

If ram sin is identified with Rama then his enemy must be Hammurabi= Ravana= Ravi-anna

The battle between Khammu Ravi and Ram Sin who led a group of Ten Kings was one of the most famous events of Sumerian History

Sin Mubalit was Hammurabi’s father. It links him with Mahabali.

Great Assyriologist C J Gadd termed Ram-Sin’s rule as the Golden Age of Sumer.

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Badar e Lengeh in Persin Gulf = Setu Bandanam

Hetumant  (in the Helmand) = Setu band

Dandanakan near Merv= Dandaka vana

According to E A Speiser, many Sumerian city names were echoes of the earlier cities in Elam

Thus Larsa was an echo of Lar in the Gulf area; :ar was once the name of Gujarat

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Rama in Indus Seals

The bow man symbol in Indus seals may be Rama

Rama was an Indo Aryan or Indo Iranian.

The presence of Indo-Aryans in Sumer in the early second millennium BC disproves some of the old assumptions about the arrival of the Indo nIranians in the Middle East.

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MY COMMENTS

1.Author has collected lot f information regarding Rama and Sita

But he imagined that Iran and Iraq were the original place of Rama and Dasaratha. If we look at it in the revere , all will fall in its place perfectly. In his argument we see many chronological aberrations. If you say that Ramayana story travelled from the India to Iraq (Sumer) and Iran, the picture changes.

2.Author has assumed all the above mentioned characters were original characters in Ramayana. It is wrong. Because of the fame of Rama and Sita, they copied the names. This we see in modern history as well. Those who travelled from Tamil Nadu named several places after their native places in  Tamil Nadu. Those who went to Australia, Canada and America and South Africa named those places after their native places by simply adding New (south wales, England etc)

3.This is proved by Tushratta, Pratardhana etc in Mitannin around 1400 BCE

4. There were 14 Ramses kings in Egypt. They may be Rama sesha/snake or Ramesha/Siva with snake

5. We have to look at other aspects in Sumer (which I have already listed in my old articles)

We can easily see the direction of migration. The longer you go rituals get diluted or disappear. The longer you travel names get distorted. Myself living in Britain for over 30 years see all the rituals get abridged or diluted. Sri Lankan names were distorted beyond recognition. Some became awkward. This is what we see in Sumer/Iraq and Iran.

6.From Mekong river in South East Asia to Congo river in Central Africa we see the name of Holy Ganga. River Volga (Udaka), Caspian Sea (Kasyapa rishi), Adriatic sea (Atri Maharishi) Singapore (Srngapuri) Laos (Lava kusa), all places ending with Apad (janapada) Gham (grama), Stan (stan) are of Hindu origin. They are all Sanskrit words. That is why WE HAVE ONLY ONE LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT A RACE OR COMMUNITY ATTACHED TO IT. Greek, Latin, Chinese, Hebrew, Tamil and Persian are all named after the places or the people who spoke it. Sanskrit was the common language of the world. Even its original name is Basha/language! No name except ‘language’, because that was the original Vak/word humans spoke!

7.It will be interesting to compare the Dasarajna Yuddh / Ten Kinggs of Rig Veda and Kings in Genesis of Bible. Other Sumrian Sanskrit names are given in my article. Also needed urgently is to the see the similarities in the flood story and how Dravidian King Sathyavratan ruled during the Great Floods. Sambandar’s Thevaram also confirms it.

8. Last but not the least, Kanchi Paramacharya (1894-1994) has pointed out in his 1932 Mylapore speeches, that Adam and Eve Story is a copy of Upanishad story of two birds sitting on a tree, one eating the fruit and the other not. Adam/Atma and Eve/Jivatma is made clear in this story.

There are books saying that there were six Avvaiyars in Tamil literature, many Agastyas from Rig Veda to Indonesia and many Ravanas as well. Ravana who was defeated by Karta Veerya Arjuna was not the one in Ramayana. Ravana who lifted the Kailash is not the one who abducted Sita Devi. Kanhi Paramacharya (1894-1994) has also pointed out that Indra is not single person. Foreigners translated all our scriptures wrong and caused immense damage to our history. We must sit to gether and rewrie history ASAP.

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HINDU LEGENDS IN GREECE (Post No.9218)

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Post No. 9218

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HINDU LEGENDS IN GREECE (Post No.9218)

The India We have Lost by Paramesh Choudhury (editor), 1997, New Delhi is an exceptionally good collection of all old articles about India and the World. 200 years ago lot of people have pointed out that India was the Guru of the world in many fields.

I have written many articles showing the connection between India and Greece. I have touched some aspects which were not dealt by anyone else. The connection between Sanskrit and Greek is known to the Western world for the past 250 years. But no one has shown a concrete proof that Tamil also has a link with Greek language. I have listed scores of such words in my 100+ linguistics articles.

Now I am just showing what is available in the above book without going into much details. Londoners are lucky that they can get the book from University of London (SOAS) .

Ref. JA934 721-008

ISBN 81-900127-6-2

INDIA AND EGYPT

This is an article based on Lt.Col.Wilford. He wrote in 1792 (Asiatic Researches Vol.III, 1792). He showed  that the ancient Indians colonised the countries on the border of the Nile.

Striking similarity is found between several Hindu legends and numerous passages in Greek authors concerning the Nile and the countries on its border .

Hindus have preserved the religious fables of Egypt….. since Ptolemy acknowledges himself indebted for information to many learned Indians whom he had seen at Alexandria.

Hindus discovered Nile (Nila is Blue in Sanskrit)

Speke , the discoverer of the source of Nile has his debt to Lt.Col. Wilford whose description of Egypt as Sancha Dwipa and the source of Nile paved his way to destination.

Wilford described Egypt as the SANCHA DWIPA or the Island of Shells. The sea around Egypt is full of shells of extraordinary size and beauty.

Strabo says that the natives wore sea shells as ornaments and amulets.

Another interpretation was that the natives lived in caves which looked like sea shells.

My Interpretation

After reading his article I looked at the map of Africa. The whole continent itself looks like a Conch, i.e. the Shanka. Probably this shape only gave description.

( I gave only one page information from the book)

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Narasimha Avatar- Man- Lion Incarnation of Vishnu

Greek hero Hercules did lot of adventures like Lord Krishna. Hercules is actually Hari Kula Esa, according to several scholars.

The Twelve labours of Hercules have all the Leelas of Krishna or Vishnu. The characters are same but the stories take different turns.

One of the adventures of Hercules, was killing a lion called Namean lion.  This is compared to Narasimha of Vishnu’s avatars. But in Narasimha Avatara story, Vishnu came as Man lion and  killed the demon. There is astronomical interpretation as well. Leo is simha -rasi Some astronomical events are described here according to them.

Since Greeks stole the story of Sarama dog from the Rig Veda and changed it to Hermes, there is no wonder the stole Krishna’s stories and changed as well. Krishna is dated from 3150 BCE, where as Hercules is dated only from Sixth Centuy BCE.

Wilford compares many constellations with many religious events.

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Mecca , a Hindu Shrine

According to Lt.Francis Wilford (Asiatic Journal, 1799), Mecca originally meant Mockshasthan (old spelling for Moksha- liberation) ,ie. The place which confers renunciation from all worldly attachments. Pliny calls it Maco Raba or Moca, the Great (Maha in Sanskrit) or illustrious.

This was the great place of pilgrimage for the Hindus. Wilford affirms that he came across Hindu pilgrims visiting Mecca even at the end of 18th century.

(Guru Nanak and Tamil Chera King of eighth century CE visited Mecca, because it was originally a Hindu pilgrim centre.)

Wilford also emphasises the fact that Hindus colonised  Arabia and the adjacent areas and Nineveh of Sumerians was a great holy place for the Hindus. Puranas describes the place. He also says that Goddess worship was imported to Mesopotamia from India and all the names of Goddesses are in Sanskrit.

In the Skanda Purana and Visva Sara Prakasa, we find legends similar to the origin of SEMIRAMIS, the Syrian dove, Ninus and the building of Nineveh, Heirapolis and Mecca.

Full story is given in the article

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India colonised Greece

Francis Wilford who wrote an article in 1801 in Asiatic Researches, opines that the rites and ceremonies, travelled from more ancient (India) to the modern one (Greece). Pococke in his book (India in Greece) has deduced mainly from the study of place names that Greece was colonised and civilised by the Indians.

There are striking similarities between the Greeks and the Hindus regarding religious beliefs- philosophical thoughts , language, arts and sculpture. Sir William Jones has pointed out that it is impossible to read Vedanta or the many fond composition in illustration of it without believing that Pythagoras and Plato derived their sublime theories from the same fountain with Indian sages.

Mr Colebrook, the great Orientalist, remarks boldly that a greater degree of similarity exists between the Indian doctrines and that of the earlier than the later Greeks. He concludes that Greek Philosophy between Pythagoras and Plato was indebted to Indian thought. He compared Greek Logos and Vac in the Rig Veda.

(Only two paragraphs from the first page of the article are given)

Xxxx subham xxx

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11 Egyptian Kings with Same Name: Ramesses! (Post No.3744)

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Date: 21 March 2017

 

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Post No. 3744

 

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Egypt has many wonders such as the Pyramids and Sphinxes; over 100 pyramids and several sphinx statues! Apart from the gigantic monuments, the history of Egypt itself has many wonders. One of the wonders is the long reigns of the kings. Historians around the world allocate 20 years for every king on an average. But Egyptian kings ruled for 90 years, 80 years, 70 years, 60 years according to historians. This is incredible and impossible. Just to create excitement and interest, historians, like our tourist guides, created lot of stories. When Kalhana, author of Rajatarangini, said that the kings  Pravrasena, Siddha, Hiranyakula, Vasukula, Baka, Nara, Gopaditya and Aksa  ruled for 60 years each, the historians did not believe him and never entered them into our history books. Same Kalhana in his Rajatarangini, gave Mihirakula 70 years reign and a Tamil verse gave Karikal Choza 83 years  which the historians ridiculed. But in Egypt’s case, they believed whatever said by the people who lived 3000 years after them! This is business; tourist business; Book writers make millions and tourism industry is making billions.

Here is the breakdown of reign by some famous ancient Egyptian kings:-

Pepi II – ruled for 94 years! became king at the age of six and died at the age of 100!

Ramesses II – 64 years

Narmer – 64 years

Aha (Hor) -64 years

 

In fact, history was first written by the Hindus in their mythologies (Purana). No religious scripture in the world includes history as a compulsory section. But Hindu Puranas must have a section called Dynasties of the Kings. This is one of the five sections of all the Puranas.

 

When the historians found out lot of discrepancies in the Sumerain King list given by Berossus and others, in the Egyptian king lists given by Manetho and others, they made lot of patch work, additions, omissions and commissions, and presented a “full history”.

 

When the Puranas gave a long list of kings, which even Megasthanes believed, they simply did not enter it into History books. When the Hindu Panchang (almanac) gave the official beginning of Kaliyuga as 3102 BCE, they ridiculed it. But they began all the histories including Chinese, Mayan, Babylonian, Egyptian histories from 3000+ BCE. They didn’t even know that it was the starting year of the Kaliyuga. All histories around the world began in a year very close to Kaliyuga!

 

11 Kings with same name!

Hindus are the ones who have the highest number of similar names in the list of kings. VIKRAMADITYA is used by several kings from Kanyakumari to Kashmir for over 2000 years. Probably Egypt comes next with 11 kings holding the same name Ramesses.

The name itself sounds very interesting; knowledgeable people and greatest ascetic of modern times Kanchi Paramacharya (1894-1994) think that there is a Hindu influence of Ram; others think it may be Lord Shiva, because all Ramesses kings have snake over their heads like Lord Shiva. there is a reason to believe in such theories because all these came only after Hindu contacts.

( Please see encyclopaedias for more details about Dasaratha letters, Amarna letters and Mitanninan Hindu king’s daughters marriage with Egyptian kings and sending two goddesses statues (Durga or Lakshmi?) to Egyptian Pharaoh etc).

Now let us look at some interesting details about these 11 kings:

Ramesses I (1295-1294 BCE)

He was a soldier turned Pharaoh! ruled only for one and half years. He was the founder of the Nineteenth Dynasty.

Ramesses II (1279 – 1213 BCE)

He ruled Egypt for 67 years! He became a king when he was twenty years old. He was famous for his huge statues. He built gigantic structures, most of them containing huge representations of himself!

He had several wives and had over 100 children! He beat Hindu Dasaratha in marriage and Hindu Kuchela (Sudhama) in fathering children!

He was always portrayed with his pet lion in battlefields. He fought a war with the Hittites at the city of Qadesh, but was defeated. But like modern politicians, he depicted the outcome of the war as a big victory according to his inscriptions. His temple is in West Thebes and called Ramesseum. English poet Shelly wrote Ozymandias based on Ramesses’ broken statue.

 

Ramesses III (1184 BCE – 1153)

World’s first labour strike happened during his reign at Deir El Medina. He had to deal with the invasion of Sea Peoples. He defeated them and inscribed it at his temple in Medinet Habu. He died because of a harem plot. He might have been murdered.

Like Hindu Kings he made lot of grants to Egyptian temples. They are all recorded on papyrus by his successor and it is known as The Great Harris Papyrus.

Ramesses IV (1153-1147 BCE)

He settled the labour dispute which began in the previous king’s period. He did many mining expeditions to get good stones for the temples. He prayed to Gods that he should also live like his predecessor. But Gods had different plans and he died in the sixth year of his rule.

Ramesses V (1147-1143 BCE)

Corruption among temple priests grew in his time. An enquiry was ordered and the corruption was exposed. Ruled only for five years.

He had a long list of hollow titles:

Living Horus (god of Egypt)

Mighty bull

Great in Victory

Sustaining the two lands (Upper and Lower Egypt)

Favourite of the Two Goddesses

Mighty in Strength; repulser of Millions

Rich in Years

Protector of Egypt

Filling Every Land with Great Monuments in His Name

Son of Re (Solar God)

Lord of Diadems and several more!!

 

Ramesses VI (1143-1136)

It is thought that he came to rule because of an insurrection against his father Ramesses V.

Ruled only for a brief period.

Ramesses VII (1136-1129BCE)

Little is known about his rule; prices rose alarmingly and people became angry. He ruled for seven years.

Ramesses VIII (one year rule)

He ruled for one year.

Ramesses IX (1126-1108 BCE)

He ruled for 17 years. He built extensively and gave special attention to Heliopolis (Surya Puri). During his reign pillaging of royal and private tombs came to light. Even 3000 years before our time such scandals happened. Since there were treasures in tombs, people started plundering them. He ordered an investigation into the scandals and moved the mummies of the kings to a safer place.

Ramesses X

Ruled for ten years. Nothing remarkable happened.

Ramesses XI (1097- 1069 BCE)

He was the last of the Ramessid kings, the eleventh of the name, proved to be one of the longest lasting, reigning for twenty-seven years. He had to tackle the attacks of tribesmen. Priests in Thebes became very powerful and challenged his authority. He even sent one priest out of the country. Priests of God Amun became richer and more powerful than kings! Number of tomb robberies were recorded and court investigations launched. Kings were slowly losing control from his time.

Source: Who is who in Ancient Egypt by Michael Rice.

My Research Articles on Egypt

Please Read my earlier Posts:—

Did Indians build Egyptian Pyramids?

27 august 2012

Hindu Gods in Egyptian Pyramids

16 september 2012

Sex Mantras and Talismans in Egypt and Atharva Veda

26 september 2012

Vedas and Egyptian Pyramid Texts

29 August 2012

Vishnu in Egyptian Pyramids (Part 3)

5 september 2012

More Tamil and Sanskrit Names in Egypt

Research paper written by London Swaminathan
Research article No.1413; Dated 15th November 2014.

Flags: Indus Valley-Egypt similarity

15 october 2012

Hindu Mudras in Egyptian and Sumerian Statues (Posted on 7 October 2012)

 

First Homosexual King in History! (Post No.3692) 5-3-2017

 

The Great Scorpion Mystery in History – Part 1 (posted 10 November 2012)
The Great Scorpion Mystery in History – Part 2(posted 10 November 2012)
 

 

–Subham–

 

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Mystery of Horse: Sudden Appearance from Egypt to India! (Post No.3181)

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Written by London swaminathan

Date: 23 September 2016

Time uploaded in London: 15-30

Post No.3181

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Rig Veda, the oldest book in the world, contains references to horse, horse race, chariots and riding in almost all the ten Mandalas. No other literature in the world has so many references to horses. May be Zend Avesta which came after Rig Veda has some references. We know Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey came nearly 1000 years after the Rig Veda.

 

A research paper submitted on the basis of fossils discovered in Western India in 2014 showed that the ancient relatives of horses originated in India.

“Working at the edge of a coal mine in India, a team of Johns Hopkins researchers and colleagues have filled in a major gap in science’s understanding of the evolution of a group of animals that includes horses and rhinos. That group likely originated on the subcontinent when it was still an island headed swiftly for collision with Asia, the researchers report today in the online journal Nature Communications. It happened more than fifty million years ago. (20 November 2014 newspaper report)

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Though there is a very big gap in time between the Rig Veda and the fossils, the fossil discovery shows that horses are not new to this region. Actually a great mystery lies in the fact that horses appeared suddenly in Egypt, Middle East and India at the “same time”. But latest hydrological research in the Sarasvati basin shows that Rig Veda was “composed” or “heard” by the seers before 1900 BCE. The precession of the earth and the stars mentioned in the Vedic literature shows that Rig Veda must have been composed or heard before 3000 BCE. This means that the horses were exported from India to other parts of the world.

 

Is there any other proof to support this hypotheses? Yes, we have archaeological proof from the Hittite empire. They were trained in Sanskrit!

Mitannian kings had Sanskrit names found in Ramayana and Vishnu sahasranama such as Dasarata, Pratardana. But being distant from the place of origin they had corrupted spellings like Tushratta. We see such trends in Mauritius, Sri Lanka and Malaysia where the migrated Tamils write Turka instead of Durga, Tamayanti instead of Damayanti, Murder mootoo instead of Marudamuthu.

 

We also find the Sanskrit word asva/horse in their names: Biridaswa (Brhad Asva) possessing great horses, sattasva (Sapta+ Asva), possessing or winning seven horses.

 

Zend Avesta, holy book of Zoroastrians, also has names such as Drvaspa ( agoddess)- she who keeps horses in good health, Vistaspa ( a king of Bactria), son of Aurvat aspa, Pourus aspa, father of Zarathustra, he who possess many horses, Arbataspa master of war like hoses, Huaspa- having good horses.

Aspa= Asva= Hrasva= Horse

Kikkuli of Mitanni was the one who taught them to use war horses. His horse training manual is in Sanskrit:

Wartanna = vartana = a turn

Akika = Eka = one turn

Tera = tri = three turns

Panza = pancha = five turns

Nava artanna = nava = nine turns.

Foreigners looking at the colloquial form of Sanskrit thought that it was Proto Sanskrit. It is actually the localised Sanskrit. Even today Sanskrit words are Tamilized in Tamil Nadu and the ancient Tamil Grammar book has rules for it. Without understanding this, they thought it was a different language.

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There is another proof also. The Bogaizkoy inscription mentioned the Vedic Gods in the same order as Rig Veda. When two kings signed an agreement they sealed their agreement with the Vedic mantra. All the scholars who studied Vedas agree that the Vedas originated on Indian soil. This shows that  the Hindu scriptures have spread to Turkey-Syria border around 1400 BCE!

We see horses at the same time from Egypt to India

 

With the archaeological and linguistics evidence, now it is confirmed that the Hindus went from India to give training in horses. There are more proofs in the Rig Veda:-

The horse was called asva, atya (runner), arvant (swift), strong for pulling (vaajin), the runner (sapti). Mare was called with four different names. Different colours of horses are also described. A white horse with black ears is mentioned in the Athrva Vedas as of special value. Horses were highly prized. Gifts of 400 horse are mentioned. Horses were decorated with pearls and gold. Horses from Indus and Sarasvati were praised high.   Kings had names as Asvapati etc. chariots, races and Asvamedha Yajna are mentioned.

All these show that the technic of raising horses originated in India.

Now that we know the Rig Veda is dated between 1900 BCE and 3000 BCE following dates are better understood:–

Hittite empire, a city rebelling against King Anittas in 1750 BCE, fielded 40 Chariots; Hattusilis I (sathyaseela)  (1650 BCE) fielded 80 chariots at the siege of Urshu; by the Battle of Kadesh (1285 BCE) Hattusas fielded 2500 chariots under Muwattalis II (1306 BCE)

 

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The Hyksos (Hindu Yakshas)

Egypt used ‘equus asinus’ first for carrying burdens and then ‘equus caballus’. Asiatic Hyksos captured power in Nile delta in 1750 BCE. They were the one who brought horses from India to Egypt they are shown in chariots.

 

We see horses in a plaque of Tuthmose III (1479 BCE). Later we see more horses. So around 1400 BCE it is seen on a large area frm Egypt to Plains of Ganges. How was it possible where there was no modern transport like today. It was possible only because India sent trainers like Kikkuli to all the countries

 

Science of Horses

Mitochondrial DNA tests conducted on over 600 horses from 25 breeds world wide prove that at least 17 genetic groups are involved; that horses originally from diverse locations; and there were at least six locations in which horses were domesticated. At present no direct glimse of how the first horse was domesticated (Daily telegraph, 14-8-2002)

 

Domesticated horse was present in Mesopotamia from 2500 BCE. Horse remains found in Syria are dated 2400 BCE. Syria and Turkey were under Vedic Kings from very early times under Kassites, Hittites and Mitanni. Standard of Ur depicts five four wheeled wagons with four equids apiece. Mesopotamian horse artefacts are dated between 2800-2500 BCE. Sice the Vedas are dated before this date by astronomical refrences, we may assume that domesticated horses went for India to other countries.

 

The horse appears in a Sumerian text ‘The Curse of Agade” where the Goddess Inanna of Agade, capital of Sumer, sought to bring harmony to men and nimals, among them the ass of the mountains Anse Kur ra – the horse (2000 BCE)

 

There are proverbs about horses in Sumerian texts :

You sweat like a horse (it is) what you have drunk

If my burden is always  to be this, I shall become weak (horse says)

 

Domestic horse remains are recovered from south west Iran. They are from the Kaftari era (2100-1800 BCE)

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Biblical reference

Genesis 47:16 has reference to horses. Canaanites had come requesting food from Egypt; this was granted ‘in exchange for their horses, their sheep and goats, their cattle and donkeys’.

Mari used chariotry in war, and also the donkey mounted couriers. From mari comes the earliest personal record of horse riding. King Zimri Lim was advised to take the safer option of riding a mule, or in a chariot, rather than risk riding horses.

 

The scarcity of horses at this time is shown by the value of a single animal:

A horse is worth 30 times that of a slave

Or 500 sheep

Or 5 minas of silver (2-4 Kilos)

From the above facts  we can prove that the Rig Veda is the first source of horses provided the date 3000 BCE is accepted.

 

 

At Jaggayyapeta, India is a relief where the horse is depicted as a symbol of the world ruler- Chakravarti.

 

The horse sacrifice also appears in Zend Avesta , albeit in religious fiction, when 100 male horses, 1000 oxen, 10,000 lambs are offered to Ardvi sura Anahita on the Hara, the Alborz mountains south of Caspian Sea.

(This shows Zend Avesta is an imitation of Hindu scriptures, sometimes a caricature of the Hindu Vedas)

Source: The horse in the ancient world by Ann Hyland, 2003, Newspaper cuttings and my comments.

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Why did Sumeria and Egypt worship Indra?

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Indra in Vientaine, Laos (South East Asian country)

Research Paper written by London Swaminathan
Post No.1288; Dated:14th September 2014.

Indra is the oldest God in the world worshipped until today. There are over 100,000 temples in India and millions of Brahmins all over the world. In all these places we hear Indra’s name every day. Children are named after Indra or his wife Indrani (Saci) from Nepal to Sri Lanka and all over South East Asia.

I have written umpteen articles on Indra creating an Encyclopaedia of Indra to dispel the false notion spread by foreign ‘scholars’. He is NOT an “Aryan” God from Central Asia or Siberia. He is a Hindu god from India travelling to different parts of the world. In my previous article, I published the pictures of Laos and Mongolia stamps on Indra.

My conclusion is Indra is not one person. It is a title like KING or a LEADER. Indra is also used for GOD. In ancient Hindu India, kings were considered God. We see it in the Rig Veda and 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature.

This article gives more proof to show that Indra was worshipped as God in Egypt, Sumer and Greece.

Indra referred to a title is confirmed by Mahabharata (Santi Parva, Chapter 224) and Vayu Purana (64-6-9). While Vayu Purana allocated 14 Indras for 14 Manvanataras, Mahabharata said that there were thousands of Indras in the past (See Indra in Indian Mythology by Muralidhar Mohanty for more details).

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Wooden Sculpture of Indra and Saci from Nepal.

Foreign ‘scholars’ who did not study Tamil Tolkappiam or Mahabaharta made wrong statements that one Indra killed more than 30 demons in the Rig Veda. In fact they were not demons. Indra ‘s most celebrated episode is about killing a Brahmin !!!

We know for sure from the oldest Tamil book Tolkappaiam that Tamils worshiped the Vedic deity Indra. We know that Vedic Hindus gave top place to Indra in their worship. He is praised more than anyone else in the Vedas. But Indra worship did not stop there. Even Iranians, Sumerians, Egyptians and Greeks worshipped Indra! In their languages Indra meant The God!

In Egypt:
In Egypt “ntr” meant God. The hieroglyph ‘ntr’ meaning god is derived from a staff bound with cloth. This is Indra Dwaja (Flag of Indra) found in Ramayana and Tamil literature. Tamil epic Silappadikaram describes the Indra festival and Indra flag in great detail. Many of the ancient languages never write vowels. We have to insert vowels before reading it. “Ntr” will become Intra, if we introduce vowels into them.

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Indra Festival in Nepal

3000 Gods in Sumeria

More than 3000 deities’ names have been recovered from Mesopotamia alone. These were organised by the Mesopotamians into groups resembling households, extended families or states (See Dictionary of the Ancient Near East published by The British Museum for more details).

In Avesta, Andira meant Indra and in Tamil Andiran meant Indra. I explain them below; Indra is mentioned in a two places in Zend Avesta.

In Sumeria Andara is Indra ( See page 147 of the ‘India We have Lost’)
Laos has issued stamps for Indra and Mongolia has issued stamps for Vajrayudha! Indra’s name is found all over the world in names like Andrew etc.

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ANTARES = INDRA

Of the 27 stars, Jyeshta is one. Greeks named the star Antares, i.e Indra. In Hindu scriptures the Devata/deity for Anatres is Indra! Hindus called this red star as Jyeshta meaning ‘the eldest’. This is another proof to show that Greek name Anatres and Indra are one and the same. (Among the goddesses also there is one Jyeshta). Scholars who did not know linked Antares with Ares (Mars) without any rhyme or reason!

There is another proof from ancient Sangam Tamil literature. Oldest book Tolkappiam called Indra with the name “Vendhan” meaning The King. But Sangam Tamil literature and later books like Tirukkural used Sanskrit word Indra. But not many people know that Andiran in Sanagam Tamil literature is also Indra.

There are two verses (240 and 241) in Purananuru sung by a Brahmin woman Uraiyur Enicheri Mudamosi. She composed many poems in praise of Ay Andiran, a Tamil chieftain. Only three poets used this word Andiran — all meaning chieftain Ay Andiran.

Miss Mudomosi gives us two vital facts:

1.When Ay Andiran died his wives burnt themselves in the funeral pyre. This custom known as “Sati” was practised more in the north from the Mahabharata days. But it was not compulsory. Even in the Mahabharata days, Pandava’s mother Kunti did NOT die in funeral pyre after Pandu’s death. Dasaratha’s wives did NOT die after Dasaratha’s death as well. There are two more references to Sati in Tamil literature, which I have already dealt with.

2.When Ay Andiran died Indra’s temple drums started playing loudly to welcome him! Miss Mudamosi described very clearly “Vajara Thadakkai Nediyon Koyil” meaning the “Temple of God one who wields the weapon Vajra/thunderbolt”. Why did she suddenly mention Indra welcoming her in the heaven? This is because Andiran meant Indra. Ayu/Ay is also found throughout Mahabharata and the Puranas (Hindu Mythlogy)

Ay Andiran’s forefathers came from Dwaraka of Krishna. He belonged to Velir clan which was brought to Tamil Nadu by Agastya 3000 years ago — around 1000 BCE. Another Brahmin poet of Sangam age Kapila gave this information in Purananuru verse 201.

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Indra Festival in Nepal

Indra in the Indus Valley Civilization
The Rig-Veda identifies Indra with the bull which is the predominant seal in Indus valley civilisation. So we can conclude that Indra worship prevailed in the Indus Valley.

Indra’s vehicle is an elephant known as Airavata which is a predominant animal in Indus valley civilization. No other ancient civilization has elephant figure or association of an elephant with any ancient god. This is a very clear proof to show that Indra is an Indus God and not a foreigner from central Asia or Siberia. I have already explained the elephant and the standing figure with a wheel above, on an Indus tablet is Indra.
He is the god of the direction “East” which shows that he belongs to India and not a foreign god from the “West”.

His wife Indrani is the daughter of Asura Puloman which shows that Asuras belonged to one and the same race, belying Aryan – Dravidian racist theory. She is also known as Paulomi and Aindri. Andiran is Indra and Aindri is Indrani.

The English name Andrew and Andreas all came from Indra. Later new explanations were added by struggling foreign “Scholars”!!!

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Indra Jatra in Nepal. This was celebrated in ancient Tamil Nadu.

Afghans worship Indra!
Indra and Imra are worshipped as Kafir gods in Afghanistan. The place where he was worshiped was called Kafiristan. He is worshiped in Waigal, Prasun areas of Hindukush and in Nuristan.

Indra is identified with Zeus of Greece,Thor of Norse Jupiter of Romans and Taranis of Celts.

Please read my earlier research papers on Indra:
1.Encyclopedia of Indra (Posted on 7th Sept. 2014)
2. Indra-Thor-Taranis in Indus Valley Civilization (5th Sept. 2014)
3. Oldest Engineer in the World –Indra: A Dam Buster or a Dam Builder? (4th Sept. 2014)

4).Why did Indra kill Brahmins? – (posted on 25 May 2014).
5).How many people did Indra kill? (17th July 2014)
6).Do you know Indra? (14th July 2014)
7).Indus Valley – Brahmin Connection (10th May 2014)
8).Indus Valley Case: Lord Indra Acquitted (28 December 2013)
9).Indra in the Oldest Tamil Book
10). Indra Festival in the Vedas and Tamil Epics
11).Vishnu in Indus Valley
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Mongolia Stamp on Vajrayudha

Most of these articles are available in Tamil also. Indra is mentioned in all my articles on Aryan Dravidian ‘Racist’ Theory.

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Stars are Gods! We are Stars!!

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Research paper written by London Swaminathan
Post No 1241; Dated 18th August 2014.

Hindus worship Seven Stars in the Ursa Major constellation every day. They are considered Sapta Rsis (seven sages). Brahmins worship them every day in their Sandhya ritual three times a day. Of the seven stars, the Vasishtha and his wife Arundhati are worshipped by everyone. Arundhati ( Star Alcor) is seen by all the newly married couple just before entering the first night room. Tamil Sangam literature also praised the seven stars as ‘Kai thozu Ezuvar’. Agastya star on the southern sky (Canopus), Tri Shanku (Southern Star constellation) and Druva (Pole Star) on the northern sky are all worshipped by the Hindus. Arudra (in Orion) and Onam are identified with Lord Shiva and Vishnu.

When I was a school student, I read Vanaparva in Mahabaharata where Matali told Arjuna that the stars, he saw during his space travel, were holy souls. As a science student I was trying to find some symbolic meaning instead of literal meaning. But when I started watching Night at Sky in the BBC, the Royal astronomer of Britain Patrick Moor told one day that we were all star dust billions of years ago. After the Big Bang, the universe came into being including the Solar System where the life emerged during billions of years. I became more curious. Later I watched a documentary “The Orion Mystery” on the BBC on 6th of February 1994, and I collected some notes. I wanted to share those notes with you to pave way for further research.

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Hindus, Egyptians and Mayas believed that the stars in the heavens are gods. Science does not support this. According to science “stars are luminous globe of gas, mainly hydrogen and helium, which produces its own heat and light by nuclear reactions. Although stars shine for very long time – billions of years — they are not eternal.” But science was not able to explain why did Big Bang happen and why the universe is still expanding and why billions of hydrogen bombs explode every second inside sun etc. Religion says that there is one all powerful force behind everything in the universe and that is God.
We may be made up of star dust, that is only our body, but not the soul. Science does not believe in souls, only religion believes in it.

Space Travel in Mahabharata
There is a fascinating account of Arjuna’s Space Travel in the Vanaparva of Mahabharata. Without going much into it, I will quote only the relevant portion today:

“Arjuna ascended the divine chariot, brilliant like the sun. And on this sun like, divine, wonder working chariot the wise scion of Kuru flew joyously upward. While becoming invisible to the mortals who walk on earth, he saw wondrous air borne chariots by thousands. No sun shone there or moon or fire, but they shone with a light of their own acquired by merits. Those lights that are seen as the stars look tiny like oil flames because of the distance, but they are very large.”
Page 308, Mahabharata, The Book of the Forest (Vana Parva), Translated by A B Van Buitenen

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The amazing thing about this space travel of Arjuna in Mahabaharata is that it coincides with the latest discovery of science. Vyasa wrote it 5000 years ago! If any scientist does not want to give credit to Vyasa, at least they must accept he was the first science fiction writer in the World!! ( I will reproduce the entire chapter one day with my comments). Arjuna spent five years in space, says Mahabharata.

Egyptian Belief

In Egypt, the state religion revolved around the belief that the deceased pharaoh was reborn as a star. Ritual incantations (mantras) were chanted, the purpose of which was to facilitate the dead monarch’s rapid rebirth in the heavens:

“Oh king, you are this great star, the companion of Orion, who traverses the sky with Orion…. You ascend from the east of the sky, being renewed in your due season and rejuvenated in your due time”.

(My comments: This is similar to Vedic Mantra. Vedas also talk about Orion constellation as a hunter. Greeks copied it from Hindus and said a similar story about Orion stars).

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Mayan Belief
The Popol Vuh, the sacred book of the Quiche Maya of Mexico and Guatemala, contains several passages which clearly indicate a belief in stellar rebirth – the reincarnation of the dead as stars.
Page 141 of Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock

Researchers have found out some connection with the pyramids and Orion constellation. The three pyramids of Giza plotted against the three belt stars of the Orion constellation. Of the 90 pyramids Cheops – Kufu pyramid is one of the big pyramids. It has lot of drawings on stars. The holes (for air circulation) in the pyramids align with the three stars.

The Orion Constellation and the Hindus
“Mrga Vyadha, the hunter, is the name of Sirius in the legend of Pajapati’s daughter in the Aitareya Brahmana. Prajapati (Orion) pursues his daughter(Rohini) and is shot by the archer Sirius. The transference of the legend to the sky is no doubt secondary, caused by the obvious similarity of the constellation in question to the idea of an archer.”
Page 174, Volume 2 of Vedic Index by A A MacDonnell and A B Keith.

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My comments: The Vedic Index authors quoted the above reference from Hildebrandt. I think the hunter idea is copied by the Greeks from the Hindus. Vedic literature is older than Greek literature is an accepted fact. Shiva who is identified with Arudra (Betelgeuse) in the Orion constellation is praised as a hunter in all the Vedic literature (Rudra Mantra and later mythologies). Mrga Shirsa Nakshatra in the constellation is seen as a deer head. Atharva Veda gives all the 27 star names.

Orion is described as a giant hunter by the Greeks. Greeks say that the hunter was blinded but recovered his eye sight by exposing his eye balls to the rising sun (My comments: This is Surya Namaskara). Eos the conceived a passion for him and carried him off, but Artemis shot him with her arrow. He was placed among the stars.
Page 160, An Illustrated Dictionary of Classical Mythology by Gilbert Meadows

When we look at all the stories here, we see a common thread connecting them. The story went to all the civilizations from Ancient India.

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