BRAHMANAS, KSHATRIYAS, VAISYAS MUST STUDY VEDAS- MANU (Post No.7354)

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Date: 17 December 2019

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Post No. 7354

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MANU10,CHAPTER X.

So far we have covered nine chapters with salient features highlighted; I have also added my comments wherever it was appropriate. To day let us look at the 74 slokas in the tenth chapter of Manu Smrti.

First I will give important slokas/ couplets in bullet points.

Sloka 63 – This is the most important sloka in the firsts 70 + slokas. Good qualities are common for all the Four Varnas/castes

Sloka 1 -People who belong to Three castes must learn Vedas. It will be interesting to find out till what time the three castes studied Vedas.

Sloka 8 on wards – Inter caste marriages and specific terms for them in permutation and combinations. We know that inter caste marriages were done during even Mahabharata days. But never heard these many different kinds. This chapter must be a later addition.

Sloka 20 – definition of Vratyas

Sloka 22 – Dravidas

Sloka 32  – Dasyus

Sloka 44 – Yavanas & Dravidas

These terms are used with different connotations. It is not Vedic Dasyu; Like Dravidas we have several people named after Countries/Desa So instead of Geographical connotation we have inter caste people.

Sloka 25 onwards – Sons of Inter Caste couples are dealt with.

We can infer two things from these :-

1.Inter Caste marriages took place

2.Yavanas, Dravidas, Kambojas, Vratyas, Sakar – are all Hindus.

Sloka 47 on wards – their professions

Sloka 56 – death sentence

Sloka 58 – Non Aryan qualities (Here Aryan stands for Cultured, Civilized).

Sloka 64/ 65 – A Sudra becomes a Brahmana in seventh generation

Sloka 69 to 73  Interesting Debate —

Which is important Seed (Husband) or Land (Wife)?

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Now let us look at the original translation of Slokas?

1. Let the three twice-born castes (varna), discharging their (prescribed) duties, study the Veda; but among them the Brahmana alone shall teach it, not the other two; that is an established rule.

2. The Brahmana must know the means of subsistence prescribed by law for all, instruct the others, and himself live according to the law

3. On account of his pre-eminence, on account of the superiority of his origin, on account of his observance of (particular) restrictive rules, and on account of his particular sanctification the Brahmana is the lord of (all) castes (varna).

4. Brahmana, the Kshatriya, and the Vaisya castes (varna) are the twice-born ones, but the fourth, the Sudra, has one birth only; there is no fifth caste.

5. In all castes (varna) those (children) only which are begotten in the direct order on wedded wives, equal (in caste and married as) virgins, are to be considered as belonging to the same caste (as their fathers)

6. Sons, begotten by twice-born man on wives of the next lower castes, they declare to be similar (to their fathers, but) blamed on account of the fault (inherent) in their mothers.

7. Such is the eternal law concerning (children) born of wives one degree lower (than their husbands); know (that) the following rule (is applicable) to those born of women two or three degrees lower.

INTER CASTE  MARRIAGES

8. From a Brahmana a with the daughter of a Vaisya is born (a son) called an Ambashtha, with the daughter of a sudra a Nishada, who is also called Parasava.

9. From a Kshatriya and the daughter of a Sudra springs a being, called Ugra, resembling both a Kshatriya and a Sudra, ferocious in his manners, and delighting in cruelty.

10. Children of a Brahmana by (women of) the three (lower) castes, of a Kshatriya by (wives of) the two (lower) castes, and of a Vaisya by (a wife of) the one caste (below him) are all six called base-born (apasada).

11. From a Kshatriya by the daughter of a Brahmana is born (a son called) according to his caste (gati) a Suta; from a Vaisya by females of the royal and the Brahmana (castes) spring a Magadha and a Vaideha.

12. From a Sudra are born an Ayogava, a Kshattri, and a Candala, the lowest of men, by Vaisya, Kshatriya, and Brahmana) females, (sons who owe their origin to) a confusion of the castes.

13. As an Ambashtha and an Ugra, (begotten) in the direct order on (women) one degree lower (than their husbands) are declared (to be), even so are a Kshattri and a Vaidehaka, though they were born in the inverse order of the castes (from mothers one degree higher than the fathers).

14. Those sons of the twice-born, begotten on wives of the next lower castes, who have been enumerated in due order, they call by the name Anantaras (belonging to the next lower caste), on account of the blemish (inherent) in their mothers.

15. A Brahmana begets on the daughter of an Ugra an Avrita, on the daughter of an Ambashtha an Abhira, but on a female of the Ayogava (caste) a Dhigvana.

16. From a Sudra spring in the inverse order (by females of the higher castes) three base-born (sons, apasada), an Ayogava, a Kshattri, and a Candala, the lowest of men;

17. From a Vaisya are born in the inverse order of the castes a Magadha and a Vaideha, but from a Kshatriya a Suta only; these are three other base-born ones (apasada).

18. The son of a Nishada by a Sudra female becomes a Pukkasa by caste (gati), but the son of a Sudra by a Nishada female is declared to be a Kukkutaka.

19. Moreover, the son of by Kshattri by an Ugra female is called a Svapaka; but one begotten by a Vaidehaka on an Ambashtha female is named a Vena.

WHO ARE VRATYAS?

20. Those (sons) whom the twice-born beget on wives of equal caste, but who, not fulfilling their sacred duties, are excluded from the Savitri, one must designate by the appellation Vratyas.

21. But from a Vratya (of the) Brahmana (caste) spring the wicked Bhriggakantaka, the Avantya, the Vatadhana, the Pushpadha, and the Saikha.

WHO IS A DRAVIDA?

22. From a Vratya (of the) Kshatriya (caste), the Ghalla, the Malla, the Likkhivi, the Nata, the Karana, the Khasa, and the Dravida.

23. From a Vratya (of the) Vaisya (caste) are born a Sudhanvan, an Akarya, a Karusha, a Viganman, a Maitra, and a Satvata.

24. By adultery (committed by persons) of (different) castes, by marriages with women who ought not to be married, and by the neglect of the duties and occupations (prescribed) to each, are produced (sons who owe their origin) to a confusion the castes.

SONS OF INTER CASTE COUPLES

25. I will (now) fully enumerate those (sons) of mixed origin, who are born of Anulomas and of Pratilomas, and (thus) are mutually connected.

26. The Suta, the Vaidehaka, the Kandala, that lowest of mortals, the Magadha, he of the Kshattri caste (gati), and the Ayogava,

27. These six (Pratilomas) beget similar races (varna) on women of their own (caste), they (also) produce (the like) with females of their mother’s caste (gati), and with females (of) higher ones.

28. As a (Brahmana) begets on (females of) two out of the three (twice-born castes a son similar to) himself, (but inferior) on account of the lower degree (of the mother), and (one equal to himself) on a female of his own race, even so is the order in the case of the excluded (races, vahya).

29. Those (six mentioned above) also beget, the one on the females of the other, a great many (kinds of) despicable (sons), even more sinful than their (fathers), and excluded (from the Aryan community, vahya).

30. Just as a Sudra begets on a Brahmana female a being excluded (from the Aryan community), even so (a person himself) excluded pro creates with (females of) the four castes (varna, sons) more (worthy of being) excluded (than he himself).

31. But men excluded (by the Aryans, vahya), who approach females of higher rank, beget races (varna) still more worthy to be excluded, low men (hina) still lower races, even fifteen (in number).

DASYU

32. A Dasyu begets on an Ayogava (woman) a Sairandhra, who is skilled in adorning and attending (his master), who, (though) not a slave, lives like a slave, (or) subsists by snaring (animals).

33. A Vaideha produces (with the same) a sweet-voiced Maitreyaka, who, ringing a bell at the appearance of dawn, continually. praises (great) men.

34. A Nishada begets (on the same) a Margava (or) Dasa, who subsists by working as a boatman, (and) whom the inhabitants of Aryavarta call a Caivarta.

35. Those three base-born ones are severally begot on Ayogava women, who wear the clothes of the dead, are wicked, and eat reprehensible food.

36. From a Nishada springs (by a woman of the Vaideha caste) a Karavara, who works in leather; and from a Vaidehaka (by women of the Karavara and Nishada castes), an Andhra and a Meda, who dwell outside the village.

37. From a Candala by a Vaideha woman is born a Pandusopaka, who deals in cane; from a Nishada (by the same) an Ahindika.

38. But from a Candala by a Pukkasa woman is born the sinful Sopaka, who lives by the occupations of his sire, and is ever despised by good men.

39. A Nishada woman bears to a Candala a son (called) Antyavasayin, employed in burial-grounds, and despised even by those excluded (from the Aryan community).

40. These races, (which originate) in a confusion (of the castes and) have been described according to their fathers and mothers, may be known by their occupations, whether they conceal or openly show themselves.

41. Six sons, begotten (by Aryans) on women of equal and the next lower castes (Anantara), have the duties of twice-born men; but all those born in consequence of a violation (of the law) are, as regards their duties, equal to Sudras.

42. By the power of austerities and of the seed (from which they sprang), these (races) obtain here among men more exalted or lower rank in successive births.

43. But in consequence of the omission of the sacred rites, and of their not consulting Brahmanas, the following tribes of Kshatriyas have gradually sunk in this world to the condition of Sudras;

YAVANAS, DRAVIDAS

44. (Viz.) the Paudrakas, the Kodas, the Dravidas, the Kambogas, the Yavanas, the Sakas, the Paradas, the Pahlavas, the Kinas, the Kiratas, and the Daradas.

45. All those tribes in this world, which are excluded from (the community of) those born from the mouth, the arms, the thighs, and the feet (of Brahman), are called Dasyus, whether they speak the language of the Mlekkhas (barbarians) or that of the Aryans.

46. Those who have been mentioned as the base-born (offspring, apasada) of Aryans, or as produced in consequence of a violation (of the law, apadhvamsaga), shall subsist by occupations reprehended by the twice-born.

THEIR OCCUPATIONS

47. To Sutas (belongs) the management of horses and of chariots; to Ambashthas, the art of healing; to Vaidehakas, the service of women; to Magadhas, trade;

48. Killing fish to Nishadas; carpenters’ work to the Ayogava; to Medas, Andhras, Kunkus, and Madgus, the slaughter of wild animals;

49. To Kshattris, Ugras, and Pukkasas, catching and killing (animals) living in holes; to Dhigvanas, working in leather; to Venas, playing drums.

50. Near well-known trees and burial-grounds, on mountains and in groves, let these (tribes) dwell, known (by certain marks), and subsisting by their peculiar occupations.

51. But the dwellings of Candalas and Svapakas shall be outside the village, they must be made Apapatras, and their wealth(shall be dogs and donkeys.

52. Their dress (shall be) the garments of the dead, (they shall eat) their food from broken dishes, black iron (shall be) their ornaments, and they must always wander from place to place.

53. A man who fulfils a religious duty, shall not seek intercourse with them; their transactions (shall be) among themselves, and their marriages with their equals.

54. Their food shall be given to them by others (than an Aryan giver) in a broken dish; at night they shall not walk about in villages and in towns.

55. By day they may go about for the purpose of their work, distinguished by marks at the king’s command, and they shall carry out the corpses (of persons) who have no relatives; that is a settled rule.

DEATH SENTENCE

56. By the king’s order they shall always execute the criminals, in accordance with the law, and they shall take for themselves the clothes, the beds, and the ornaments of (such) criminals.

57. A man of impure origin, who belongs not to any caste, (varna, but whose character is) not known, who, (though) not an Aryan, has the appearance of an Aryan, one may discover by his acts.

58. Behaviour unworthy of an Aryan, harshness, cruelty, and habitual neglect of the prescribed duties betray in this world a man of impure origin.

59. A base-born man either resembles in character his father, or his mother, or both; he can never conceal his real nature.

60. Even if a man, born in a great family, sprang from criminal intercourse, he will certainly possess the faults of his (father), be they small or great.

61. But that kingdom in which such bastards, sullying (the purity of) the castes, are born, perishes quickly together with its inhabitants.

62. Dying, without the expectation of a reward, for the sake of Brahmanas and of cows, or in the defence of women and children, secures beatitude to those excluded (from the Aryan community, vahya.)

63. Abstention from injuring creatures, veracity, abstention from unlawfully appropriating the goods of others, purity, and control of the organs, Manu has declared to be the summary of the law for the four castes.

64. If (a female of the caste), sprung from a Brahmana and a Sudra female, bear (children) to one of the highest caste, the inferior (tribe) attains the highest caste within the seventh generation.

SUDRA BECOMES A BRAHMANA

65. (Thus) a Sudra attains the rank of a Brahmana, and (in a similar manner) a Brahmana sinks to the level of a Sudra; but know that it is the same with the offspring of a Kshatriya or of a Vaisya.

66. If (a doubt) should arise, with whom the pre eminence (is, whether) with him whom an Aryan by chance begot on a non-Aryan female, or (with the son) of a Brahmana woman by a non-Aryan,

67. The decision is as follows: ‘He who was begotten by an Aryan on a non-Aryan female, may become (like to) an Aryan by his virtues; he whom an Aryan (mother) bore to a non-Aryan father (is and remains) unlike to an Aryan.’

68. The law prescribes that neither of the two shall receive the sacraments, the first (being excluded) on account of the lowness of his origin, the second (because the union of his parents was) against the order of the castes.

SEED AND LAND DEBATE

69. As good seed, springing up in good soil, turns out perfectly well, even so the son of an Aryan by an Aryan woman is worthy of all the sacraments.

70. Some sages declare the seed to be more important, and others the field; again others (assert that) the seed and the field (are equally important); but the legal decision on this point is as follows:

71. Seed, sown on barren ground, perishes in it; a (fertile) field also, in which no (good) seed (is sown), will remain barren.

72. As through the power of the seed (sons) born of animals became sages who are honoured and praised, hence the seed is declared to be more important.

73. Having considered (the case of) a non-Aryan who acts like an Aryan, and (that of) an Aryan who acts like a non-Aryan, the creator declared, ‘Those two are neither equal nor unequal.’

To be continued…………………………….

SWASTIKA MYSTERY! ‘NOT FOUND IN THE MIDDLE EAST’ (Post No.6717)

Swastika in the gate of Athens Numismatics Museum

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Post No. 6717

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28 Jul 2013 – By S swaminathan The biggest victim of Aryan Racist theory was the authors of the theory. Westerners made up this theory to divide the world …

–subham–

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Comparison between Babylonian and Indian Inscriptions (Post No.6096)

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Date: 19 FEBRUARY 2019


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Post No. 6096

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NEW DISCOVERY OF IRON OBJECTS EXPLODES ARYAN -DRAVIDIAN THEORIES (Post No.5992)

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இரும்பு பற்றி அரிய தகவல்! ஆரிய- திராவிட வாதத்துக்கு மேலும் ஒரு ஆப்பு! (Post No.5989)

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ஆரிய- திராவிட சர்ச்சை பற்றி ராஜாஜி (Post No.5913)

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1930ஆம் ஆண்டில் சிறைச் சாலையில் தம்முடன் இருந்தவர்களுடன் சக்ரவர்த்தி ராஜகோபாலாச்சாரி பேசிய விஷயங்களை அவரே ஒரு கட்டுரைத் தொகுப்பில் வெளியிட்டுள்ளார். அந்தப் புஸ்தகத்தை  1944ம் ஆண்டில் காரைக்குடி புதுமைப் பதிப்பகம் அச்சிட்டுள்ளது. இதோ அந்த  இணைப்பு:

–subham–

Max Muller Exposed! True Colours of Max Muller! (Post No.4224)

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Date: 18 September 2017

 

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Post No. 4224

 

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It is true that Friedrich Max Muller, the German born philologist and Orientalist, spent most of his life in studying the Vedas. It is also true that he edited and published 51 Volume Sacred Books of the East. But not many people knew that he was like a coolie worker who got the wages from East India Company and started translating the Vedas to denigrate them. As he matured, he changed his views a little. But even the professorship he held in the universities stipulated that he should uphold the Christian religion, which he did faithfully.

 

Like a snake he had split tongue. Sometimes he praised the Vedas and other times he scoffed at them. Why? Anyone who studies Max Muller’s writings can see one thing crystal clear. Whenever he praised the Vedas, he would show that the Aryans and Germans lived under one roof at one time and then the Aryans entered India. This is what he paid for by the East India Company and the universities. He and Caldwell distorted the history of India by giving a new meaning for the word Aryan. In the Vedas and Sangam Tamil literature it hasn’t got any racial connotation. But he deliberately gave a racial meaning and instead of using the word Vedic Hindus, throughout his writing he used Aryans. He and people like Caldwell created Hitler who was so obsessed with the word Arya and Hindu Swastika symbol. The atrocity Max Muller did against the Hindus and the Jews was immeasurable.

Here is a piece which shows his true colours, a paid coolie to show that India was full of migrants; this shows his wishful thinking: –

MY GREATEST DISCOVERY: MAX MULLER

“If I were asked what I consider the most important discovery which has been made during the nineteenth century, with respect to the ancient history of mankind, I should answer by the following short line

“Sanskrit DYAUSH PITAR= Greek ZEUS PATER = Latin JUPITER = Old Norse TYR”

“Think what this equation implies! It implies not only that own ancestors and the ancestors of Homer and Cicero (the Greeks and Romans) spoke the same language as the people of India – this is a discovery, which however incredible it sounded at first, has long ceased to cause any surprise – but it implies and proves that they all had once the same faith, and worshipped for a time the same supreme Deity under exactly the same name- a name which meant Heaven Father”.

 

Those simple hearted forefathers of ours, says Kinsley, “looked round upon the earth and said within themselves, ‘where is the All Father. If All Father there be? Not in this earth; for it will perish. Nor in the sun, moon or stars; for they all will perish too. Where is He who abideth for ever?

“Then they lifted up their eyes, and saw, as hey thought, beyond sun and moon, and stars and all which changes and will change, the clear blue sky, the boundless firmament of heaven.

“That never changed; that was always the same. The clouds and storm rolled far below it, and all the bustle of this noisy world; but there the sky was still, as bright and as clam as ever. The All father must be there, unchangeable in the unchanging heaven; bright and pure and be there and boundless like the heavens.; and like the heavens too, silent and far off.

 

And how, says Max Muller, did they call that All Father?

 

Five thousand years ago, it may be earlier, the Aryans speaking neither Sanskrit, Greek or Latin, called him Dyupatar- Heaven Father

 

Four thousand years ago, or it may be earlier, the Aryans who had travelled southward to the rivers of the Punjab called him Dyaush-Pita, Heaven father.

 

Three thousand years ago, or it may be earlier, the Aryans on the shores of the Hellespont, called him Zeus Pater, Heaven father

Two thousand years ago, the Aryans of Italy looked up to that bright heaven above, and called it Jupiter, Heaven father.

“And a thousand years ago the same Heaven Father and All father was invoked in the dark forests of Germany by the Teutonic Aryans, and his old name of Tiu or Zio was then heard perhaps for the last time.

 

“If we want a name for the invisible, the infinite, that surrounds us on every side, the unknown, the True Self of the world and true self ourselves – we, too, feeling once more like children, kneeling in a small dark room, can hardly find a better name than ‘Our Father which art in Heaven.”

 

There are clear traces in some of the hymns of the Rig Veda that at one time Dyaus, the sky, was the supreme deity.

At an early period, however, the earth under the name Prithvi, was associated with Dyaus. The Aitareya Brahmana mentions their marriage: The gods then brought the two (Heaven and Earth) together, and when they came together, they performed a wedding of the Gods

 

The ancient Greeks had the same idea. The earth is addressed as Mother of Gods, the wife of the Starry Heaven, Their marriage too is described

 

The Hindus thought their gods were much like themselves; so heaven and earth were called the father and mother of the Gods.

 

In the hymns there are various speculations about the origin of Dyaus and Prithvi. A Perplexed poet enquires, “Which of these was the first, and which the last? How they have been produced

? Sages, who knows?”

 

In the Vedas Dyaus is chiefly invoked in connection with the Earth. He is invoked by himself also, but he is a vanishing God, and his place is taken in most of the Vedic poems by the younger and more active God, Indra”.

 

MY COMMENTS:

Max Muller’s Lies!

Sanskrit and Sanskrit literature are older than Greek by several thousand years! Saraswati River research has proved that the Vedas existed before Harappa and Mohanjadaro. Atomic Isotopes and satellite images cannot lie.

 

Like the fanatic Tamils hide under the guise of Indus valley Civilization saying that they spoke Tamil, Europeans hide under a supposed language IE (Indo European); it was never proved. It was invented to support their false theories.

 

His Norse Tyr, Roma Jupiter, Greek Zeus were very Junior Gods compared to Dyaus Pater.

 

More over Dyaus Pater has only a passing remark in the Vedas where as Indra, Varuna and Agni command great respect and take thousands of Mantras.

Neither Max Muller nor any scholar has proved that the Dyaus Pita is in the oldest hymn of Rig Veda; once again it is Max Muller’s invention!

 

Thousands of things mentioned in the Vedas were not even found anywhere in Europe. Oldest Greek literature is from 800 BCE, whereas the Vedic literature is at least 5000 years old even according to Max Muller. He went back from his old theory of 1200 BCE (for RV) when he was attacked by other contemporary scholars. Tilak and Jacobi proved that the Rig Veda belonged to 4500 BCE or before. No one has challenged their astronomical proof until today. Marxist writers and foreign writers never even mentioned them.

 

Because Max Muller was paid a coolie he said that we all lived under one roof 5000 years ago outside India! This he tried to prove in his 51 volumes and miserably failed. The fact of the matter is Hindus went outside and spread their culture.

 

Sumerians, Babylonians and Egyptians say that they came from a far off land; but neither Sangam Tamil literature nor Vedas claim any outside origin. There is very clear indication to show that they have been living here for thousands of years. Bhimbetka caves and other places show that human beings lived here for thousands and thousands of years.

Max  Muller’s lies are exposed now. Faithful to the coolie he received, though out his writings he said that Hindus came from outside. He did not even use the word Hindus. He invented a new race called Aryans. He has done an immense damage to human history.

 

–SUBHAM–

 

 

 

 

Part-5: Anti- Weaver,Tanner, Scavenger Proverbs (Post No.3076)

cobbler, tribe

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Date: 20th August 2016

Time uploaded in London:  12-12

Post No.3076

 

Pictures are taken from various sources; thanks for the pictures.

 

Part-5 on caste Proverbs. For proverbs on Brahmins, Banias, Jats, Carpenters, Blacksmiths, Goldsmiths and agricultural castes, please read the first four parts.

 

 

 

Anti – Weaver Proverbs

 

Weaver’s loom being sunk in the ground, he is said to dig a pit and fall into it himself.

 

If the weaver has a pot of grain he thinks himself a Raja/king.

 

He finds the hind peg of a plough, and proposes to star farming on the strength of it.

 

If there are eight Jolaahaas (Mohammedan weavers) and nine huqqas (things), they fight for the odd one.

 

The Jolaahaa goes to see a ram fight and gets butted himself.

(The stupidity of the weaver is the staple subject of proverbial philosophy through out India)

 

Being one of a company of twelve who had safely forded a river, he can only find eleven, as he forgets to count himself and straight goes off to bury himself in the belief that, as he is missing, he must be dead.

A crow snatches a piece of bread from a Jolaha’s child and flies with it to the roof, the prudent father takes away the ladder before he gives the child anymore.

 

A Jolaahaa hears the Koran being read and bursts into tears; on being asked what passage moves him so, he explains that the wagging beard of the Mulla, reminded him of a favourite goat that he had lost.

When his dog barks at a tiger he proceeds to whip his child.

He will steal a reel of thread when he gets the chance.

He has his own standard of time; he lies like a Chamaar; and even if you see him brushing the newly woven cloth, you must not believe him when he says that it is ready.

shoemaker

Anti – Shoemaker/tanner/cobbler Proverbs

 

He is as wily as a jackal, he is so stupid that he sits on his awl and beats himself for stealing it.

 

He laments that he cannot tan his own skin.

He knows that nothing beyond his last, and the shortest way to deal with him is to beat him with a shoe of his own making.

 

Old shoes should be offered to the shoemaker’s god

Stich, Stitch is the note of the cobbler’s quarter; Stink Stink of the street where the tanners live.

 

The Chamar’s wife goes barefoot, but his daughter, when he has just attained puberty, is as graceful as an ear of millet.

There is no hiding the belly from the midwife (Chamar’s wife knows everything)

 

Chamar is inquiring after the health of the  village headman’s buffalo ( a humorous allusion to the practice of poisoning animals with arsenic)

 

Anti- Doms (Scavengers,Executioners, Basket makers, Professional burglars; in Tamil Nadu they were called Pariahs; in Maharashtra Mahars, the Dheds)

 

Dom is the Lord of Death (they supply wood for the funeral pyre)

He is ranked with Brahmans and goats as a creature useless in time of need.

 

He is a friend of all castes:-

Kanjar steals his dog;

Gujar loots his house;

Barber shaves him for nothing;

Jolaahaa makes him a suit of clothes.

 

If donkeys could excrete sugar, Doms would no longer be beggars.

 

A Dom in a palanquin and a Brahmin on foot (Society turned upside down)

Every village has a Brahman’s street and every village has a Pariah street

 

A palm tree casts no shade; a Pariah has no rule or castes

 

He that breaks his word is a Paraih at heart

 

If a Pariah offers a boiled rice, will not the God take it?

My comments:–

Foreign invaders described this caste as the remnants of a Dravidian tribe crushed out of recognition by the invading Aryans and condemned to menial occupations. Sir Grierson said that they are the ancestors of the European Gipsies and the Rom or Romany is nothing more than a variant of Dom. This shows how hard the foreign invaders tried to drive a wedge between different Hindu castes; one would wonder whether they are scholars or crooks. Every society, every culture has people of different vocations. Some foreigners have said that Indus Valley Civilization is the source of Caste system.

 

These were recorded 100 years ago in the book:

The People of India by Sir Herbert Risely, London, 1915.

 

……to be continued

–Subham–

 

Demolishing Dravidian Demon Theories! (Post No.3067)

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Dracula from a film

Written by London swaminathan

Date: 16th August 2016

Time uploaded in London: 10-14 AM

Post No.3067

Pictures are taken from various sources; thanks for the pictures.

 

Foreign invaders who wanted to make India their permanent colony and destroy Hinduism wrote that India was invaded by the Aryans at one time. Strangely the invaders identified themselves with the Aryans. At the same time they instigated the so called Dravidians to agitate against the north Indians. The whole world knew about their motto “Divide and Rule”.

 

Most of the Hindus have never read their scriptures in full and most of the Tamils have never read the ancient Sangam Tamil literature in full. But reading all the ancient Hindu scriptures  — I am using the word READING not studying—is an impossible task to anyone. Because before the Greeks started writing in Greek , before the Romans started writing in Latin, before Moses and Jesus started speaking in one or other Semitic languages, Hindus wrote hundreds of books. If anyone draws a line around 800 BCE as the cut-off date, these languages wont be there. Tamil literature came later around first century BCE

 

Since no one was able to master the scriptures, foreigners wrote all the fanciful rubbish things about Hinduism citing one or two verses from thousands of books, mostly out of context. In ancient Tamil and Sanskrit literature ‘Aryan’ meant a cultured, civilized person or saints living in the Himalayas. But foreign invaders gave a racial tone to this word. Dravidian meant a southerner and the invaders gave a new bad connotation.

 

They dubbed all the black skinned, snub nosed, curly haired, egg shape eyed, short fellows as Dravidians. While identifying themselves with fair skinned north Indians, foreign invaders sympathised with the Dravidians saying that they were driven out of their homeland by the Aryans. In all their writings they showed Dravidians as uncivilized and uncultured people. They also said that the Dravidians were shown as demons in Hindu literature.

 

Since Hindus never read any book in full, most of them believed what the invaders said without any scrutiny. If anyone reads read the Hindu scriptures one would know what the that the scriptures say. The scriptures say who were the demons and how come they became demons. They also showed that demons and angels were cousins and their behaviour only made them demons. They also showed that they were liberated from the “demonship”.

I have given many examples in my previous articles (see the links below). I will add two more from the Ramayana where the demons turned Gandharvas, turned again into Gandharvas.

 

1.Demon Viradha says to Rama:-

“Thorugh a curse, I had to assume the monstrous shape of a titan, but in reality I am the Ganharva Tumburu, who incurred the wrath of Kuvera. He cursed me to become a demon because of my attachment to Ramba. That glorious God propitiated by me, said: When Rama overcomes you in fight, you will assume the natural form. By your grace I am delivered from this curse and shall now return to my abode”

Aranya Kanda, Chapter 4, Valmiki Ramayana

 

2.Demon Kabandha says:

“O Rama, on a certain occasion I incurred the wrath of a great Rishi named Sthulashira, whom I tormented in this loathsome shape, whilst he was gathering wild fruits. Fixing gaze on me , he pronounced a terrible curse on me to remain in this ugly shape till I am killed by you. This ugly form came to me by another curse of Indra in the battle field.”

 

In the end he regained his original shape of a Gandharva.

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Still from James Bond film

 

In stories like as Kalmasapada in the Mahabharata, we see even kings becoming Rakshasa (demon).

In short demons are not Dravidians or a separate race. Even a cultured, educated person like Ravana is depicted as a demon when he acquired more bad qualities.

If we go deeper into Hindu literature we come to know they also worshipped the same gods and received big boons from the same gods worshipped by the Devas (angles).

–Aranya Kanda, Chapter 71

 

Who is a Demon? Asuras,Rakshas, Danavas and Daityas
Research article No.1381; Dated 31 October 2014.

 

Dictionary of Demons

Research article No.1362; Dated 21st October 2014.

Eighteen groups of Indians!

Research article No.1390; Dated 4 November 2014.

 

–subham–

 

 

Black Antelope in Manu: Strange Facts- Part 3 (Post No.3047)

BlackBuckAntelope

black buck antelope deer 

Research Article Written by london swaminathan

Date: 9th    August 2016

Post No. 3047

Time uploaded in London :– 15-35

( Thanks for the Pictures)

 

DON’T REBLOG IT AT LEAST FOR A WEEK!  DON’T USE THE PICTURES; THEY ARE COPYRIGHTED BY SOMEONE.

 

(for old articles go to tamilandvedas.com OR swamiindology.blogspot.com)

 

Manu says,

God’s Country:

“The country that Gods made between the two divine rivers Sarasvati and Drsadvati is what they call the Land of Veda (Brahmavarta).

Manu 2-17

The conduct of the classes (four) and the intermediary classes in that country, handed down from one person to another, is called the conduct of good people.

Manu 2-18

The field of the Kurus, the Matsyas, the Pancalas and Surasenakas constitute the country of Priestly sages (Brahmarsi Desa), right next to the Land of the Veda

Manu 2-19

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My comments

Since Manu refers to perennial river Sarasvati he must have lived long long ago.

The areas he mentioned falls under Indus Valley Civilisation. He says that is the Land of Veda. So Indus valley and Vedic Civilisation are one and the same.

 

He mentioned the above two rivers as divine, so he must have lived during Vedic times. We have to note that Ganges is not mentioned!

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Antelope Land!

From the eastern sea to the western sea, the area in between the two mountains (Himalayas and Vindhyas) is what wise men call the Land of the Noble ones.

Manu 2-22

Where the black antelope ranges by nature, that should be known as the country fit for sacrifices; and beyond it is the country of the Mlechas.

Manu 2-23

 

No Ganges River!

The above passages raise lot of questions:-

1.Why did not Manu mention the holiest river Ganges when he mentioned Sarasvati and Drsadvati?

2.For whom Did Manu write his code?

3.Where did the Land of the Mlechas begin? And who were the Mlechas?

 

  1. If Manu has written only for the land between the Vindhyas and Himalayas, what happened to the South Indians? Did civilised people live at that time in the South or not?

 

My comments:

Ganges River is one of the rivers in the Rig Veda; not the holiest of the holy rivers. So can we take that Manu lived well before the Epic age?

Manu mentioned the land where black bucks roam is the holy place fit for sacrifices. We know that it roamed from Nepal to South India. So South is also a holy place?

 

If Manu had written only for the noble people between the two seas and two mountains why should others bother about it?

 

Is there any proof to show that someone was ill treated or harmed for violating Manu’s code? No, definitely not in ancient times. Even the Ramayana reference to a Shudra doing penance and Rama punishing him is considered a later addition or interpolation according to the scholars. They point out that it is in gross contradiction to the picture of Rama’s relationship with Sabari and Guha.

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Ganges Mystery!!

Ganga Mystery can be solved by dividing the period into two: Holy Saraswati period and Holy Ganga period; when Saraswati River completely dried up and disappeared without leaving a trace or imprint Ganga came into prominence. There is another way of looking at it. Bhagiratha , the king cum the greatest Hindu civil engineer planned and executed the diversion of River Ganga into the present Gangetic plains. Earlier kings failed in this. So Ganga became holy and prominent only after some period. We have to find out when. Manu did not give any prominence to River Ganges. So he must have lived in the Saraswati period. Ikshwaku came after Vaivaswata Manu. And Bhagiratha was the 54th ruler in the Ikshwaku dynasty. So there is a gap of 1500 to 2000 years (Western Kings ruled only for 20 years on an average. But Hindu kings ruled for 30 to 40 years on an average.)

(Please read my research article: “Great Engineers of Ancient India”, posted on 25 June 2011)

 

Bones in Indus Valley

It is very interesting that black antelope’s bones are discovered in Indus Valley civilisation. Can we take it that Rishis—ancient seers – raised them in their Ashramas in the Indus valley?

 

Half baked Westerners and their Indian pawns placed Manu in second century BCE. But Manu talks about perennial Sarasvati and sale of Soma herbs! Manu definitely wont fit into this period.

 

Mlechas in Tamil

Mlechas (barbarians) according to 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature are ‘Yavanas’ from Rome, Greece and Arabian land. So the mention of Mlechas by Manu is not about Dravidians of the South. Cunning and divisive foreigners attributed this word to the Dravidians. Non Tamil speakers were called Mlechas by the Tamils.

 

Holy Ganges is praised sky high by Tamil Sangam literature, where as Ganges is not found in Manu. So there must be a wide gap between the Sangam period and Period of Manu.

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Picture of a Mlecha in Barhut, 2nd Century BCE

The treatment of the Ganges and the Mlechas in two different ways in two different languages show the big time gap between the Manu Smrti and Sangam Literature of first three centuries of our period.

 

In short, the geography and the beliefs and customs of the people mentioned by Manu, place him well before the second century BCE that is attributed to it by the foreigners.

 

The biggest blunder is that the foreigners try to cramp Buddha, Mahavira and 1001 Smrti writers, litterateurs, writers of Ramayana , Mahabharata, Puranas, medical treatises – all into a period of 600 years or so. It is not reasonable and there is no evidence for such a thing in any other civilisation.

 

If we apply the same scale to other civilisations, this theory will fall flat. Max Muller’s theory that ‘a language changes every 200 years’ is not applied anywhere in the world except Sanskrit. Even if we apply it to Tamil, all the dates of Tamil literature will collapse and hang in balance!

 

In short, foreigners thought Hindus are simpletons and tried to foist  their rubbish theories on us like they do dump today all the unwanted, banned medicines and pesticides on us. They polluted the world with all tobacco smoking, firing arms, nuclear explosions, burning coal and petrol. And today they advise us that we should do this or shouldn’t do that. It is the same with their writings and theories as well!

 saraswati-map

Read my earlier article:

“Yavana(Mlechas) Mystery in Tamil Literature”, posted on 31 July 2014.

–subham–