FIVE MIRACLES OF ZOROASTER – PART 2 (Post No.10,514)

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Post No. 10,514

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THE FIRST PART OF THIS ARTICLE WAS POSTED YESTERDAY UNDER THE TITLE “ TAMIL WITCHCRAFT IS 3000 YEAR OLD! FIVE MIRACLES OF ZOROASTER!!

THIS IS THE SECOND PART:–

Vishtaspa’s favourite horse Aspa Siha (Black Horse) was rolling on the ground in agony as his four legs disappeared into his stomach. Not all the medicine men of the land could cure him.

Zarathustra /Zoroaster heard this story from the keeper of the dungeon and offered to cure the sick horse. Permission was granted. After bathing, putting on clean clothes and saying his prayers, Zarathushtra  presented himself in the courtroom.

Before he would cure the horse,  Zarathushtra  laid down four conditions. The first was that Vishtaspa  should embrace the new doctrine. Vishtaspa agreed. Then the prophet stroked the right leg of the sick horse reciting certain prayers. Immediately the leg straightened and shot out.

The second condition was that , Zarathushtra  be taken to the chambers of Queen Hutoxshi to whom he would explain the new faith and if she is convinced of its truth, she should embrace it.  Permission was granted. Zarathushtra convinced the queen who gladly accepted the new faith . Zarathushtra returned to the court where he stroked the left leg of the horse reciting his prayers. That leg too straightened and shot out. The Prophet’s third condition was that the Crown Prince Asfandiar , be asked to swear on his sword that he would accept the new faith and spread it throughout the land and beyond. The prince agreed. The third leg shot out as , Zarathushtra stroked and recited certain prayers.

His last request was that the innkeeper be summoned and made to swear , on pain of death, to tell the truth as to how the putrid matter came to be under the pillow of the Prophet . The innkeeper was summoned and he confessed the truth, pointing out  those courtiers responsible for the act. Vishtaspa ordered the guilty courtiers to be beheaded, but Zarathushtra pleaded that they should be banished instead as that would be punishment enough.  And so they were led out from the gates of the city to fend for themselves. The horse Aspa Siha was completely cured.

My Comments

This miracle is similar to the miracle done by Tamil Boy Wonder Thiru Jnana Sambandar who straightened the back of great Pandya king in Madurai (Tamil Nadu, India), who was a hunch back and suffering from severe stomach pain. Young little boy Sambandar cured him with holy ash and Tamil Mantra.

Hutokshi is Suddha Akshi = Good Eye in Sanskrit. Even Tamil Sangam literature has a poet wit that name Nakkannai= Good Eye; we have Sulochana= Good Eye , a common name for girls.

One day , when travelling on a wintry road, he was refused hospitality by the favourite of a prince.  For this he bears him a grudge , and he predicts his punishment on the day of judgement, when the good will be sorted out from the wicked.

Zarathushtra married three times and had 3 daughters and three sons. At the age of 77, he was murdered by a hostile border chief Tur- bara- Tur.

Zend Avesta and Zarathustra’s life have lot of Sanskrit names. The Parsees or Zoroastrians led a life like brahmins worshipping Fire every day. They wore sacred threads like brahmins. They worshipped Varuna as the supreme god instead of Indra. They praised Asuras instead of Devas. Probably he was a revolutionary against the established Vedic order. But there are common Gods between the two religions.

–Subham —

tags-  Miracles, Zoroaster, Zarathushtra, Horse, Vishtaspa

How many miles did Bharata travel in 7 days to reach Ayodhya? (Post No.9541)

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Post No. 9541

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We read about Bharata’s travel in Valmiki Ramayana. He travelled for seven days and reached Ayodhya. His mother’s country Kekaya was in Afghanistan but near Iranian border. So let us calculate how far he travelled. He travelled by chariot drawn by horses. Some interesting information is available in Panini’s grammar book Ashtadhyayi and its commentaries .

Panini mentioned various terms where bulls were used to draw chariots or carts,

Rathya- bulls to draw chariots 4-4-76; in the tad- vahati section

Saakata- bulls for carts,4-4-80

Baalika and Sairika – bulls for ploughs

Panini refers to different types of chariots drawn by horse or camel or ass in addition to bulls.4-3-122

Chariots were drawn by even number of horses two or four;

Sometimes a leader was yoked in front and it was called Prastha,8-3-92

But in the sculpture’s of Bharhut, Sanchi and Mathura we see 2 or 4 horses or bulls drawing the chariots or carts.

Apart from chariots Panini mentioned riders of bulls, camels and horses.

Horse distance

Aasviina denoted the length of journey made in one day by a horse,5-2-19

In the Atharva Veda 6-131-3 the Aasviina distance is mentioned immediately after 3 or 5 yojanas and appears to have exceeded five yojanas.

The Arthasastra defines precisely the Aasviina distance, as it was needed to calculate the travelling done by Government servants, and for determining the marches of cavalry or for other purposes.

The Aasviina distance in the Arthasastra is as follows—

Quality of horse — Chariot Horses —- Riding Horses

Average — 6 yojanas/31 miles— 5 yojanas/ 25-5 miles

Middle –     9 yojanas/46 miles —- 8 yojanas/41 miles

Best —     12 yojanas/61 miles — 10 yojanas/ 51 miles

The Aasviina distance in the Atharva Veda was between 5 and 8 yojanas.

Patanjali also confirmed 8 yojanas for the best horse per day.

If we take the highest number for the best horse, then Bharata would have covered at least 420 miles between Ayodhya and his home country Kekaya near Iranian border.

The roads between big cities were in good condition.

We read such things in Nala Damayanti charita   as well. Rtuparnan, and Nalan were great drivers. Tamil poem says they travelled 700 Kathams before one said ‘’Mm’’.

Kaikeyi was also a great driver and she got the boons when she drove the chariot of Dasaratha in such a way and made Dasaratha won the battle against Sambara.

So my research showed that Bharata travelled at least 420 miles; to be precise 7 days X61 miles per day= 427 miles.

But the actual distance between Kandahar city (Gandhaara) and Ayodhya is 1000 miles. So I think Bharat would have crossed rivers and took the short cut. Being a prince he would have got waiting chariots on both the banks of every river. Another possibility is that in his time Kekaya’s sovereignty might have covered Pakistan region as well.

Xxx Subham xxxx

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HORSE AND HUSBAND! MEDICAL JOKES!! (Post No.6926)

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 Date: 24 AUGUST 2019  

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Post No. 6926

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Landlord is not repairing!

Daniel Webster described in this way his last interview with John Adams:

“While I was with him and conversing on the commo topics of the day, someone a friend of his came in and made particular inquiry of his health. John Adams answered,

I inhabit a weak, frail, decayed tenement; battered by the winds and broken in upon by the storms, and , from all I can learn, the landlord does not intend to repair.”

Xxx

Hypochondriacs

Hypochondriacs should never go to medical lectures. Invariable they become afflicted with symptoms of any disease they hear about. One such man, having returned from a lecture on diseases of  the kidney immediately called upon his doctor.

The doctor attempted to explain that in that particular disease there were no pains or discomfort of any kind.

“I knew it”, gasped the hypochondriac, “my symptoms exactly”.

Xxx

Horse must be safe!

Now be sure, the farmer’s wife cautioned the druggist “to label them bottles plain; which one is for the horse and which one is for my husband. I don’t want nothing to happen to that horse before Spring plowing!”

Xxx

Brandy treatment!

A man having hurt his forehead, was advised to rub it with brandy, some days later, being asked how if he had done so, he answered,

“I have tried several times, but can never get the glass higher than my mouth”.

xxx

When one of Dr Chapman’s patients revolted at a monstrous dose of medicines and said:

Why, doctor, you don’t mean such a dose as this for this gentleman?

The doctor replied: “Oh No, but for working’ men”

Xxx  subham xxxx

Mystery of Horse: Sudden Appearance from Egypt to India! (Post No.3181)

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Date: 23 September 2016

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Post No.3181

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Rig Veda, the oldest book in the world, contains references to horse, horse race, chariots and riding in almost all the ten Mandalas. No other literature in the world has so many references to horses. May be Zend Avesta which came after Rig Veda has some references. We know Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey came nearly 1000 years after the Rig Veda.

 

A research paper submitted on the basis of fossils discovered in Western India in 2014 showed that the ancient relatives of horses originated in India.

“Working at the edge of a coal mine in India, a team of Johns Hopkins researchers and colleagues have filled in a major gap in science’s understanding of the evolution of a group of animals that includes horses and rhinos. That group likely originated on the subcontinent when it was still an island headed swiftly for collision with Asia, the researchers report today in the online journal Nature Communications. It happened more than fifty million years ago. (20 November 2014 newspaper report)

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Though there is a very big gap in time between the Rig Veda and the fossils, the fossil discovery shows that horses are not new to this region. Actually a great mystery lies in the fact that horses appeared suddenly in Egypt, Middle East and India at the “same time”. But latest hydrological research in the Sarasvati basin shows that Rig Veda was “composed” or “heard” by the seers before 1900 BCE. The precession of the earth and the stars mentioned in the Vedic literature shows that Rig Veda must have been composed or heard before 3000 BCE. This means that the horses were exported from India to other parts of the world.

 

Is there any other proof to support this hypotheses? Yes, we have archaeological proof from the Hittite empire. They were trained in Sanskrit!

Mitannian kings had Sanskrit names found in Ramayana and Vishnu sahasranama such as Dasarata, Pratardana. But being distant from the place of origin they had corrupted spellings like Tushratta. We see such trends in Mauritius, Sri Lanka and Malaysia where the migrated Tamils write Turka instead of Durga, Tamayanti instead of Damayanti, Murder mootoo instead of Marudamuthu.

 

We also find the Sanskrit word asva/horse in their names: Biridaswa (Brhad Asva) possessing great horses, sattasva (Sapta+ Asva), possessing or winning seven horses.

 

Zend Avesta, holy book of Zoroastrians, also has names such as Drvaspa ( agoddess)- she who keeps horses in good health, Vistaspa ( a king of Bactria), son of Aurvat aspa, Pourus aspa, father of Zarathustra, he who possess many horses, Arbataspa master of war like hoses, Huaspa- having good horses.

Aspa= Asva= Hrasva= Horse

Kikkuli of Mitanni was the one who taught them to use war horses. His horse training manual is in Sanskrit:

Wartanna = vartana = a turn

Akika = Eka = one turn

Tera = tri = three turns

Panza = pancha = five turns

Nava artanna = nava = nine turns.

Foreigners looking at the colloquial form of Sanskrit thought that it was Proto Sanskrit. It is actually the localised Sanskrit. Even today Sanskrit words are Tamilized in Tamil Nadu and the ancient Tamil Grammar book has rules for it. Without understanding this, they thought it was a different language.

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There is another proof also. The Bogaizkoy inscription mentioned the Vedic Gods in the same order as Rig Veda. When two kings signed an agreement they sealed their agreement with the Vedic mantra. All the scholars who studied Vedas agree that the Vedas originated on Indian soil. This shows that  the Hindu scriptures have spread to Turkey-Syria border around 1400 BCE!

We see horses at the same time from Egypt to India

 

With the archaeological and linguistics evidence, now it is confirmed that the Hindus went from India to give training in horses. There are more proofs in the Rig Veda:-

The horse was called asva, atya (runner), arvant (swift), strong for pulling (vaajin), the runner (sapti). Mare was called with four different names. Different colours of horses are also described. A white horse with black ears is mentioned in the Athrva Vedas as of special value. Horses were highly prized. Gifts of 400 horse are mentioned. Horses were decorated with pearls and gold. Horses from Indus and Sarasvati were praised high.   Kings had names as Asvapati etc. chariots, races and Asvamedha Yajna are mentioned.

All these show that the technic of raising horses originated in India.

Now that we know the Rig Veda is dated between 1900 BCE and 3000 BCE following dates are better understood:–

Hittite empire, a city rebelling against King Anittas in 1750 BCE, fielded 40 Chariots; Hattusilis I (sathyaseela)  (1650 BCE) fielded 80 chariots at the siege of Urshu; by the Battle of Kadesh (1285 BCE) Hattusas fielded 2500 chariots under Muwattalis II (1306 BCE)

 

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The Hyksos (Hindu Yakshas)

Egypt used ‘equus asinus’ first for carrying burdens and then ‘equus caballus’. Asiatic Hyksos captured power in Nile delta in 1750 BCE. They were the one who brought horses from India to Egypt they are shown in chariots.

 

We see horses in a plaque of Tuthmose III (1479 BCE). Later we see more horses. So around 1400 BCE it is seen on a large area frm Egypt to Plains of Ganges. How was it possible where there was no modern transport like today. It was possible only because India sent trainers like Kikkuli to all the countries

 

Science of Horses

Mitochondrial DNA tests conducted on over 600 horses from 25 breeds world wide prove that at least 17 genetic groups are involved; that horses originally from diverse locations; and there were at least six locations in which horses were domesticated. At present no direct glimse of how the first horse was domesticated (Daily telegraph, 14-8-2002)

 

Domesticated horse was present in Mesopotamia from 2500 BCE. Horse remains found in Syria are dated 2400 BCE. Syria and Turkey were under Vedic Kings from very early times under Kassites, Hittites and Mitanni. Standard of Ur depicts five four wheeled wagons with four equids apiece. Mesopotamian horse artefacts are dated between 2800-2500 BCE. Sice the Vedas are dated before this date by astronomical refrences, we may assume that domesticated horses went for India to other countries.

 

The horse appears in a Sumerian text ‘The Curse of Agade” where the Goddess Inanna of Agade, capital of Sumer, sought to bring harmony to men and nimals, among them the ass of the mountains Anse Kur ra – the horse (2000 BCE)

 

There are proverbs about horses in Sumerian texts :

You sweat like a horse (it is) what you have drunk

If my burden is always  to be this, I shall become weak (horse says)

 

Domestic horse remains are recovered from south west Iran. They are from the Kaftari era (2100-1800 BCE)

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Biblical reference

Genesis 47:16 has reference to horses. Canaanites had come requesting food from Egypt; this was granted ‘in exchange for their horses, their sheep and goats, their cattle and donkeys’.

Mari used chariotry in war, and also the donkey mounted couriers. From mari comes the earliest personal record of horse riding. King Zimri Lim was advised to take the safer option of riding a mule, or in a chariot, rather than risk riding horses.

 

The scarcity of horses at this time is shown by the value of a single animal:

A horse is worth 30 times that of a slave

Or 500 sheep

Or 5 minas of silver (2-4 Kilos)

From the above facts  we can prove that the Rig Veda is the first source of horses provided the date 3000 BCE is accepted.

 

 

At Jaggayyapeta, India is a relief where the horse is depicted as a symbol of the world ruler- Chakravarti.

 

The horse sacrifice also appears in Zend Avesta , albeit in religious fiction, when 100 male horses, 1000 oxen, 10,000 lambs are offered to Ardvi sura Anahita on the Hara, the Alborz mountains south of Caspian Sea.

(This shows Zend Avesta is an imitation of Hindu scriptures, sometimes a caricature of the Hindu Vedas)

Source: The horse in the ancient world by Ann Hyland, 2003, Newspaper cuttings and my comments.

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–subham–

For a Bull Five Yards, For a Horse 10 Yards, For a bad person …………………. (Post No. 2882)

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Article written by London swaminathan

 

Date: 9 June 2016

 

Post No. 2882

 

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There are two verses in Sanskrit and Tamil, almost identical that deals with bad people. The way the poets emphasize their point is very impressive.

 

An anonymous verse in the Tamil ‘Neethi Venba’ says:

If you see a bull stay at least five yards away from it (you will be safe); if it is a horse stay ten yards away from it. If you see an elephant (mad elephant), stay away by 1000 yards. If it is a bad person stay away from his sight.

 

A Sanskrit poet differs slightly, who says:-

If you see a vehicle, stand at a distance of five yards; 10 yards for a horse, 1000 yards for an elephant; and for a bad person, go as far as possible.

Saktam pancahasteshu dasahasteshu vaajinam

Gajam hasta sahasrena dushtam durena varjayet

 

Another verse beautifully compres a poisonous snake with a bad person:-

Hindus believe that a cobra has a ruby like red stone in its hood with which it looks for food in the night time (scientific explanation is that snakes use infrared rays to find its prey).

Durjanah parihartavyo vidyaalankrutopi san

Maninaa bushita sarpah kimasau na bayankarah

3 snakes

Even if a bad person is a leaned one, keep away from him; maintain a distance; even the cobra that has a crest jewel is considered a terrible creature!

–subham–

 

Origin of Horse Race and Chariot Race

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Hyksos invading Egypt

Research paper written by London Swaminathan
Post. No.1251; Dated 25th August 2014.

“Keep the horses happy and you will win the stake. Make your chariot into the vehicle of good fortune. Drink at the fountain that has Soma- vats for buckets, a pressing stone for its vehicle, a consecrated goblet for its casting; this is the fountain where men drink” (Rig Veda 10-101-7)

Rig Veda, the oldest religious book in the world, has lots of references to Horses. But the surprising thing is that we don’t have horse pictures in the Indus valley civilization. Nearby countries in the Mesopotamia region and Egypt had horses and chariots at the same time. Some people interpret unicorn seals of Indus valley as horses. But the evidence for Indus horse is inconclusive.

The oldest horse training manual has Sanskrit words for numbers!
The MItannian (Syria/Turkey) rulers’ names were in Sanskrit:
Biridaswa=Brhat Asva= possessing great horses
Sattawaza = Sapta Asva= Prize Winner in Seven horse races
Kikkuli (1400 BCE) trained people on horses. His manual used Sanskrit words:
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Royal Lion hunt in the Middle East

KIKKULI SANSKRIT MEANING
Wartanna Vartana a turn
Aika Eka One turn
Tera Tri Three turns
Panza Panca Five turns

Satta Sapta Seven turns
Na (artanna) Nava Nine turns

Those who studied Tamil grammar wouldn’t be surprised to see Satta becoming Sapta. In Tamil also we follow the same rules to change Sanskrit sounds in to Tamil sounds. Raja becomes Arasan in Tamil. Rajaraja becomes Iraasa rasan in Tamil. Damayanthy in Sanskrit is written as Tamayanti, YogaRaja becoming Yokarasa in Tamil, Shakespeare changing to Sekappiriyar or seksupiyar, Homer changing to Omar and Harrypotter changing to Karipaattar!! There is no S or H or J or Sh or Ksha in pure Tami!!
In the same way Kikuli changed Sanskrit words to suit his students in the Hittite empire!
Maryannu is a word for warrior used by Kiikuli. This comes from the Sanskrit word Marya. Egyptians borrowed this Sanskrit word and Egyptianized like Tamils and wrote M(a)-ar-ya-na in 1470 BCE in Papyrus Anastasi I. They used this for Chariot warrior.

P= V
Asva in Sanskritis written as Aspa by the Persians.
By 1500 BCE Sanskrit words were used from the Plains of River Ganges to the Plains of the River Nile and in between Mesopotamia!!!

Zend Avesta of Zoroastrians had Old Sanskrit or Persian words
Dravaspa =Devi Asva = Goddess for horses
Vist aspa (a king of Bactri) Visva Asva? = All powerful Horse?
Pourus Aspa = father of Zarathustra = one who possess many horses
Arbataspa =Master of war like horses
Huaspa =Su Asva= having good horses
Bactria’s capital was known as Zariaspa= land of golden horses! This is because they used gold coloured bronze coat.

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Mesopotamian Chariot Horse

Encyclopedias give wrong information about horse racing by saying that it originated in Greece. There is very clear proof to show that horse racing was a big sport in ancient India during Vedic times. When one looks at the innumerable references to horses and technical terms regarding horse races, one would conclude it originated in India. Horses appear in Egypt only after Egyptian kings marrying princesses of Indian origin from Turkey/Syria or coming into contact with the mainland Indians. The Asiatic Hyksos ( Hindu Yakshas?) seized control of Nile delta in 1750 BCE. Yakshas were ruling a vast territory from the Himalayan Tibet to Sri Lanka according to the Hindu Epics.

There were two types of races in the ancient world: 1)Horse Race 2) Chariot Race (driven by horses)

Sixty Parts of a Chariot!!
Vedic Index of names and subjects by AA MacDonnell and A B Keith has listed more than sixty terms for chariot and its parts alone. This shows that horse and chariot were part of Ancient Indian life. They might have done both horse race and chariot race. But gambling in such races was unknown. Prizes were given to the winners.

The racecourse called Kaasthaa (RV 8-80-8; AV 2-14-6) or Aaji (RV4-24-8;AV13-2-4) itself appears from the Atharvaveda to have been a quasi circular one to mark and back again. In the Rig-Veda the course is described as broad and the distance as measured out. Prizes were offered and eagerly competed for. Other words for victory and the prize are kaara (RV 5-29-8; 9-14-1)and bhara (RV 5-29-8; 10-16-5) and to run a race is described by the expressions aajim, dhaav. The person who instituted a race is referred to as aajisrt and Indra is called aaji krt and aajipati (RV 8-53-6 & 8-53-14).

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Use of Horse in Mesopotamia in 2400 BCE

Highly developed Veterinary Science!

The swift steeds (vaajin, atya) used for the races were often washed and adorned. According to Pischel the name of one swift mare is preserved – Vispalaa, whose broken leg was replaced by the Asvins in a race.

Geldner has also found a comic picture of a horse chariot race in the Mudgala hymn in the Rig-Veda. Pischel also seeks to show that races were run in honour of gods.
A former race, however, is a feature of the ritual of Rajasuya or royal consecration. Tamil Chozas also did Rajasuya Yajna, says Sangam Tamil literature.

Oldest Horse Training Manual
A few texts survive about horse training. The earliest comes from the Mitannian Kikkuli, who was employed by the Hittite empire. One thousand years after this, we had another book by the Greek author Xenophon (4th century BCE). Then came the Sanskrit work Arthasastra from the Hindu Brahmin author Chanakya alias Kautilya (324 BCE). This book is a political and military text with a large section on the training of war horses.
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Tutakhamun’s Ostrich feather fan

In the early Hittite empire (modern Turkey), a city rebelling against King Anittas (1750 BCE) had fielded forty chariots; Hattulis I (1650- 1620 BCE) fielded eighty chariots at the siege of Urshu and by the Battle of Kadesh (1285 BCE), Hattusas fielded 2500 chariots under Muwatallis II (1306- 1282 BCE).
Anitta = Anirudh?
Hattuli = Sathyasila
Hattusas=Sathyaputra ( In Tamil it changed to Athiyaman)

A plaque from the reign of Tuthmose III (1479- 1425 BCE) show an Egyptian mounted warrior armed with mace and bow, his horse trampling a fallen foe. Before using the horses in war, Sumerian civilization used it for pulling the wagons. The artefacts date from 2800- 2500 BCE. Sumerian texts dated 2100 BCE talk about horses.

The earliest evidence for using horse meat come from the Dereivka remains in Ukraine, where 2412 horse bones were recovered. At Botai in Kazakhstan, ten tons of horse bones were recovered.

If one looks at the references to Horses, Chariots, Races, Prizes and Parts of Chariots, Veterinary Science of Asvini Devas in the Rig Veda, Hykso’s (Yaksha) Victory over Egypt (1780 BCE) and Mitannian Kikkuli’s (1400 BCE) horse manual, one can boldly say the science of horses and chariot races was the contribution of the Hindus to the world. If the Rig Veda is dated to 6000 BCE as proposed by Bala Gangadhara Tilak and the German scholar Jacobi, then the History of horse would turn topsy turvy. If we take Shrikant G.Talageri seriously who propose Rig Vedic hymns cover 2000 years of composition, history of horse would turn ‘ulta’!
Hyksos, who invaded Egypt, may be the Yakshas of India. We read about Kubera’s Yaksha army fighting with Ravana and Bhima (read my story about Saugandika lotus flower for Draupadi in my post “ARE WOMEN ALWAYS DEMANDNG?”)

Long Live Horses who took our culture to Egypt and Greece!!
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Nimrud in Northern Iraq 880 BCE.

Books Used:
The Rig Veda (English Translation by Griffith)
Vedic Index by MacDonald and Keith
The Horse in the Ancient World (Ann Hyland)

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Horse in Northern Iraq, 880 BCE

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மாணிக்கவாசகருடன் 60 வினாடி பேட்டி

கேள்விகள் ச. சுவாமிநாதனின் கற்பனை, பதில்கள் உண்மை)

திருவாசகத்துக்கு உருகார் ஒரு வாசகத்துக்கும் உருகார் என்று உலகமே உம் புகழ் பாடுகிறது. நீவீர் வணங்கும் தெய்வம்?

“தென் நாட்டுடைய சிவனே போற்றி

எந் நாட்டவர்க்கும் இறைவா போற்றி”

“நமச்சிவாய வாழ்க நாதந்தாள் வாழ்க

இமைப் பொழுதும் என் நெஞ்சின் நீங்காதான் தாள் வாழ்க”

 

கேள்வி: அந்த இறைவன் எங்கே இருக்கிறான்?

வான் ஆகி மண் ஆகி வளி ஆகி ஒளி ஆகி

ஊன் ஆகி உயிர் ஆகி உண்மையுமாய் இன்மையுமாய்க்

கோன் ஆகி யான் எனது என்று அவர் அவரைக் கூத்தாட்டு

வான் ஆகி நின்றாயை என் சொல்லி வாழ்த்துவனே

 

கேள்வி: முதல் மூன்று ஆழ்வ்வாரை நினைவுபடுத்துமாறு

ஒரு பாடல் பாடினீர்களா?

பூ(த)த்தாரும் பொய்கைப் புனல் இதுவே யெனக் கருதிப்

பேய்த் தேர் முகக்குறும் பேதை குணமாகாமே.

 

கேள்வி: கடவுள் நம் பாவங்களை மன்னித்து மேலும் ஒரு வாய்ப்பு தருவாரா? நீங்கள் கூட அரசாங்க பணத்தை எடுத்து குதிரை வாங்காமல் கோவில் கட்டியதும் ஒரு குற்றம் தானே?

யானே பொய் என் நெஞ்சும் பொய் என் அன்பும் பொய் ஆனால்

வினையேன் அழுதால் உன்னைப் பெறலாமே

தேனே அமுதே கரும்பின் தெளிவே தித்திக்கும்

மானே அருளாய்  அடியேன் உனை வந்துறுமாறே

 

கேள்வி: இறைவன் கருணைக் கடலா?

“கல்லைப் பிசைந்து கனி ஆக்கி, தன் கருணை வெள்ளத்து

அழுத்தி வினை கடிந்த வேதியன்”

பால் நினைந்தூட்டும் தாயினும் சாலப் பரிந்து

பாவியேனுடைய ஊனினை உருக்கி உள் ஓளி பெருக்கி

உலப்பிலா ஆனந்தமாய்த் தேனினைச் சொறிந்து

 

கேள்வி: உங்கள் பாட்டில் மாபெரும் வெடிப்பு BIG BANG பற்றியும் பாடியிருப்பதாகக் கூறுகிறார்களே

அண்டப் பகுதியின் உண்டைப் பிறக்கும்

அளப்பரும் தன்மை வளப்பெருங் காட்சி

ஒன்றனுக்கொன்று நின்றெழில் பகரின்

நூற்றொரு கோடியின்  மேற்பட விரிந்தன

 

கேள்வி: மதுரையில் உமக்காக சிவன் பிட்டுக்கு மண் சுமந்து அடிவாங்கினாராமே?

கண் சுமந்த நெற்றிக் கடவுள் கலி மதுரை

மண் சுமந்து கூலி கொண்டக் கோவான் மொத்துண்டு

புண் சுமந்த பொன் மேனி பாடுதுங் காண் அம்மானாய்

 

கேள்வி: பாரதியார் கூட உம்மைப் பார்த்துத்தான் பாரத மாதா பள்ளி எழுச்சி பாடினாரோ?

இன்னிசை வீணையர் யாழினர்  ஒருபால்

இருக்கொடு தோத்திரம் இயம்பினர் ஒருபால்

துன்னிய பிணை மலர்க் கயினர் ஒருபால்

 தொழுகையர் அழுகையர் துவள்கையர் ஒருபால்

சென்னியில் அஞ்சலி கூப்பினர் ஒருபால்

திருப்பெருந்துறையுறை சிவபெருமானே

என்னையும் ஆண்டு கொண்டு இன்னருள் புரியும்

எம் பெருமான் பள்ளி எழுந்தருளாயே

 

கேள்வி: ஒரு பாட்டில் இறைவனையே ஏமாளி என்று பாடிவிட்டீரே!

தந்தது உன் தன்னை; கொண்டது என் தன்னை;

சங்கரா! யார் கொலோ சதுரர்?

அந்தம் ஒன்றில்லா ஆனந்தம் பெற்றேன்

யாது நீ பெற்றது ஒன்று என்பால்?

கேள்வி: நாத்திகம் பேசி நாத்தழும்பு ஏறியதாக நாத்திகர்களைச் சாடிய உமக்காக நரிகளைக் கூட சிவ பெருமான் பரிகள் (குதிரை) ஆக்கினாராமே?

“நரியைக் குதிரையாக்கிய நன்மையும்

ஆண்டு கொண்டருள அழகுறு திருவடி

பாண்டியன் தனக்கு பரி மா விற்று”

 

கேள்வி: மனிதனாகப் பிறப்பது மிகவும் அரிதாமே?

புல்லாகிப் பூடாய்ப் புழுவாய் மரமாகிப்

பல் விருகமாகிப் பறவையாய் பாம்பாகிப்

கல்லாய் மனிதராய்ப் பேயாய்க் கணங்களாய்

வல் அசுரராகி முனிவராய்த் தேவராய்”

 

கேள்வி: கடவுளைப் போற்ற நீங்கள் அழகான சொற்களை பயன் படுத்துவதாக

கேள்விப்பட்டோம்:

ஏகன் ,அனேகன், பிறப்பறுக்கும் பிஞ்ஞகன்றன்,தேனார் அமுது, ஆரியன், போக்கும் வரவும் இல்லா புண்ணியன்,, சொல்லற்கரியான், பெம்மான், பெண் சுமந்த பாகத்தன்,ஒப்பிலாமணி,அன்பினில் விளைந்த ஆரமுது,காண்பரிய பேரொளி, நுண்ணர்வு,ஆற்றின்ப வெள்ளமே,சுடரொளி,மெய்யன்,விடைப் பாகன், ஐயன், பெருங்கருணைப் பேராறு, காவலன், தில்லை கூத்தன், தென் பாண்டி நாட்டான்.

“ஒரு நாமம் ஓர் உருவம் ஒன்றும் இல்லார்க்கு ஆயிரம்

திரு நாமம் பாடி நாம் தெள்ளேணம் கொட்டாமோ”

முன்னைப் பழம் பொருட்கு முன்னைப் பழம் பொருளே

பின்னைப் புதுமைக்கும் பேர்த்தும் அப்பெற்றியனே”

 

கேள்வி: நன்றாகத்தான் இருக்கிறது.OLDER THAN THE OLDEST NEWER THAN THE NEWEST. “இயம் சீதா மம சுதா” போன்ற கல்யாண மந்திரங்களைக் கூட பாட்டில் பாடியிருக்கிறீர்களாமே?

“உன் கையில்  இப் பிள்ளை உனக்கே அடைக்கலம் என்ற

அங்கப் பழம் சொல் புதுக்கும் எம் அச்சத்தால்”

 

கேள்வி: கடைசியாக ஒரு பொன்மொழி?

“ஒன்றும் நீ அல்லை; அன்றி ஒன்று இல்லை”

அற்புதம்,அற்புதம். நன்றி