Three Layers in Rig Veda (Post No.5509)

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Post No. 5509

 

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Purushottam Lal Bhargava in his book ‘India in the Vedic Age’, published in 1956, made the following interesting remarks

Pre Divodasa-Sudan’s Rishis/seers
On examining the hymns, we find that those of them, which are attributed to rishis (seers) who are known to have lived before these kings never mentioned, while the hymns ascribed to rishis who are known to have been the contemporaries of Divodasa and Sudas or to have lived later, often mentioned their names.

 

Thus the rishis,
Chyavana
Kavi
Usanas
Avatsaara
Devala
Asita
Budha
Archananas
Andhiigu
Naabaananedhista
Vatsapri
Brihaspati
Samvarta
Diirghatamas
Saaryaata
Nahusa
Yayaati
Maandhaatri
Trsadasyu
Vasumanas
Tryaruna
Puuru
Suhotra
Ajamiidha
Pratardana
Sivi
Mudgala and
Kusika
Lived earlier than Divodaasa and Sudaas and never mentioned the kings names.

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Second Layer
Purukutsa and Trsadasyu
The names of these two famous Vedic kings are mentioned in many hymns, but never in those rishis who lived before them. Sobhari was a contemporary of Trsadasyu. The hymns ascribed to him never mentioned Divodasa and Sudas’.

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Third Layer
Contemporaries of Divodasa and Sudas’s, besides mentioning the names of these kings also often mentioned the names of the Purukutsa and Trsadasyu.
Vasistha, who was a contemporary of Sudas mentioned the name of Sudas and Trsadasyu.

Rishis who were joint authors of hymns are known from other sources to have been contemporaries.
Thus a rishi Manu Samvarani is the joint author of hymn 9-101,with kings Nahusa and Yayati, which means he was their contemporary, and this is borne out by hymn 10-61 in which Nabhaanethista speaks of his father Manu Samvarani being held in high esteem by the princes Yadu and Turvasa, the sons of king Yayati.

Similarly Kutsa Angirasa is the joint author of hymn 9-97 with Vasistha and his sons which means he was their contemporary and this is borne out by the mention of Sudas IN HYMN 1-112 ATTRIBUTED TO KUTSA.

Again hymn 10-179 is ascribed to three kings Sivi, Vasumanas and Pratardana and these were contemporaries according to Puranas.

 

Judging from the names of authors, the oldest among the books of Rig Veda seems to be Book 5, attributed to ancient Atri family, though it does not mean all the hymns in the book are equally ancient.

Rig Veda has Ten Books or Mandalas

See the attachments for the chronology:

 

 

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More About Rig Vedic Kings : Nine Interesting Points (Post No.5336)

Research Article Written by London swaminathan

Date: 18 August 2018

 

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Post No. 5336

 

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Kings and Queens of Rig Veda

I am just updating my previous post with the following new information:

So far my research has revealed More Interesting Information

1.We have Sumerian and Iranian names in the Rig Veda.

2.Sindhudvipa (name of a seer) is a very interesting name, meaning king of Indus valley . This links Rig Veda with the Indus Valley Civilization. The follow up is in Mahabharata- Jayadratha of Sindhudesa (3100 BCE)

3.Another interesting name is Pratardhana (1380 BCE) . This name is found in Vishnu Sahasranama and Mitanni Civilization (1380 BCE inscription). Mitanni King is not the Rig Vedic king who is very old. But the interesting fact is that the Rig Vedic name has travelled up to Turkey.

4.Revolutionary Naabhananethista is a very interesting name for several reasons; the name itself is strange; more linked to Sumerian sound; another reason is Hindu scriptures say that he revolted against the family and so his father Manu and brothers did not allot him a share in the property; He is like Akhenaten of Egypt. In Sumerian/ Assyria another king with similar name revolted against the formal religion and introduced new god like Akhenaten. So this revolutionary Nabananedisthta needs further research.

  1. I have already discussed Sumuka which is found only in Manu Smrti and Sumerian literature Nowhere else!
  2. Dumuzi/ Sammata/ Fish God mystery is also discussed already (please look at the bottom for links)

7.There is another interesting detail added by P L Bhargava: King’s younger brother and some Vaisyas become Brahmins by becoming Rishis. We see such a thing in Ilanko of Tamil literature and other Puranas.

8.Iranian King Balbhutha figures in the Eighth Mandala of Rig Veda where Camel Dana and Cow Dana are described. The Rig Veda covers a vast area from Iran to Gangetic Plains. It also covers Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey, Mesopotamia (Iraq, Middle Eastern Countries) and China.

9.The word ‘Anasa’ (snub nosed or no nose people) are described in the Rig Veda. They belong to Mongoloid race of China, Tibet, Mongolia etc. Foreigners deliberately invented Aryan- Dravidian division and dubbed ‘Anasa’ as Dravidians and distorted Hindu history. Likewise Dasa/slave is found in Greece as well.

 

Following is from P L Bhargava Book:–

 

“Younger brothers of kings became seers ( Rishis)  and they founded Brahmin families.

In Tamil literature we see Ilango, younger brother of mighty Chera king Cheran Senguttuvan, became an ascetic and composed Tamil epic Silppadikaram.

Among early kings, Manu, Saryaata, Puruuruvas, Nahusha, Yayaati and Puuru were hymn makers. Among Aikshvaakus, Maandhaatri, Trasadasyu, Vasumanas, Tryaruna and Sindhudvipa were composers of hymns.

Among Pauravas, Suhotra, Ajamiidha, Pratardana, Mudgala, Kusika, Gaathin, and Sudaas were authors of hymns. Among AanavasSivi and among Yaadavas Viitahavya were makers of hymns.

 
Among Vaisyas or commoners, there were three well known hymn makers, viz.,Manu Savarni, Naabhaanedishtha, and Vatsapri. They all became Aatreya Brahmins.
Among ladies to whom hymns of the Rig Veda are ascribed the most celebrated were Urvasii, Lopaamudraa, Visvavaaraa, Apaalaa and Ghoshaa. Urvasi was wife of king Puruuruvas and Lopaamudraa was wife of Agastya (This shows Rig Veda knew Vidarbha area. Lopamudra was the princess of Vidarbha; Agastya came to South Tamil Nadu) . They are perhaps the heroines rather than the authors of the hymns ascribed to them. The other three, however, appear to have actually composed the hymns attributed to them. Visvavaaraa and Apaalaa were of the Atreya family. Ghoshaa was the daughter of king Kakshiivant and expressly calls herself a ‘kings daughter ‘.

Source India in the Vedic Age PL Bhargava, Jaipur, 1956

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160 Kings in Rig Veda!

posted on 23 Nov.2014

 

Bharata Dynasty in the Rig-Veda:–

1.Bharata
2.Devavaata
3.Srnjaya
4.Vadhryasva
5.Divodaasa
6.Pratardana
7.Pijavana
8.Devasravas
9.Sudaas
10.Sahadeva
11.Somaka

Trksi Dynasty

1.Mandhata
2.Purukutsa
3.Trasadasyu
4.Trasadasyu Purukutsa
5.Trasadasyava

A
ABHYAVARTIN, AJAS, ALINAS, AMBARISHA, ANAVA, ANHASA, ANU, API, AVLAN, AYU
B
BALBHUTHA, BHAGERATHA, BHALANAS, BHAYAMANA, BHEDA, BOJA
C
CHAIDYA, CHAYAMANA, CHEDI, CHITRARATHA
D
DARBHYA, DASHADYU, DASARAJA, DASONI, DEVAVAN, DEVAVRATA, DHVANYA,DHVASARI, DIRGANITHA, DROPKRISHNA, DRUH, DRUHYU, DUHASU,DUHSIMA, DURGAHA, DYOTANA
E
EMUSHA
G
GAIRIKSHITA
H
HARAYANA, HARISCHANDRA
I
IKSHVAKU, ISHTAHWA

 

K
KAKUHA, KASU, KARURAYAN, KIKATA,KSHABAVAN, KSHATRASRI, KUNDAPAVYU, KURUNGA
L
LAKSHMANA
M
MANYAMANA, MAYAVA, MITRATHITHI, MITRAYU INDROTA
N
NAHUS, NAHUSHA, NAM, NARMARA, NINDITASVA, NITOSHA
P
PAIJAVANA, PAKASTHAMAN, PAKTHA, PARAMJAYA, PARSU, PASADHYUMNA
PERUK, PITHINAS, PLAYOGA, PORUKUTSA, PRADAKUSANU, PRAMAGANDA
PRAJAPATHI, PRASTOKA, PRATARDHANA, PRATARDAS, PRATHAVANA
PRATHUSRAVAS, PRISHADVANA, PURAJA, PURAYA, PURODAS, PURU
PURUKUTSA, PURUPANTHA

R
RAMA, RATHAHAVYA, RATAVITI, RATHAPROSTHAS, RIJIASVA
RIKSA, RUMA, RUNACHAYA

S
SAHADEVA, SAHAVASU, SANDA, SANTANU, SAPYANAMI, SATRI, SAVISTHA
SIGRUS, SINJARA, SIVAS, SMADIBHA, SOBHARI, SOUDASA, SRINGAVRISHA
SRINJAYA, SRUTARATHA, SRUTARVA, SUDASA, SUNITHA, SURADEVA,
SURADHAS, SUSAMAN, SUSHRAVAS, SVANA DRATHA, SVARNARA,SVASNA
SVAITREYA, SYAVAKA, SYAVATANA

 

T
TARANTA, TARUKSHA, TIRINDRA, TRAITANA, TRIKSHI, TRISKY, TUGRA, TUJI, TURVAYANA
TUTUJI
U
UKSANYAYANA, UPAMASRAVASA, USINARANI
V
VAIDADASVI, VAIKARANA, VAITARANA, VAMRAKA, VARASIKA, VAYATA
VAYYA, VESA, VETASU,VIBINDHU, VIDATHIN, VIRKA, VISANINS,VISVAMITRA
VRICHIVAN, VRISHAKAPI

Y
YADU, YAKSUS, YAYATI
YUDHYAMADHI

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