WOMEN IN 100 HINDU LAW BOOKS (Post No.6711)

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MS RAMNIKA JALALI’S BOOK INDIAN WOMEN IN THE SMRITIS is a good book. In 248 pages she has listed nearly 100 law books, what are called Smritis in Sanskrit. She has compared the status of women in 37 important law books and listed another 57 law books.

She has dealt with woman

As a girl

As a wife

As a mother

As a widow

As a prostitute

It is a balanced book and gives a long list of reference books.

It is treasure house for researchers.

She has given the famous sloka of Manu smrti in the very beginning:

Yatra naaryastu puujyante ramante tatra devataah

Yatretaastu na puujyante sarvaastatraaphalaah kriyaah

Manu 3-56

The deities delight in places where women are revered, but where women are not revered all rites are fruitless – Manu 3-56

Here some pages from the book

Full list of Hindu Law Books called Smritis is in the book.

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Bhartruhari,Tulsidas and Thiruvalluvar (Post No.6651)

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I continue here with the comparative study of Bhartuhari’s Niti Sataka with the verses of Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar, Hindi Poet Tulsidas and verses from the Bhagavad Gita:–

“There are very few saints who are full of the nectar of good deeds in their mind, speech and body. They win over the love of all the three worlds by serving them and they describe the smallest virtue of others as a mountain! They really evolve and progress with joy and joy bliss in their hearts”.

मनसि वचसि काये पुण्यपीयूषपूर्णास्
त्रिभुवनम् उपकारश्रेणिभिः प्रीणयन्तः
परगुणपरमाणून्पर्वतीकृत्य नित्यं
निजहृदि विकसन्तः सन्त सन्तः कियन्तः BHARTRUHRI’S Niti Sataka1.79

Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar says,

“The wise are good in heart. Still, they find new joy and energy in good friends -Kural 458

Though the help rendered is as small as a grain it will be considered as large as a tree by those who appreciate the value of it” – Kural 104

“THERE IS NO PROFIT WITHOUT CAPITAL; THERE IS NO STABILITY FOR A LEADER WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE WISE AND THE VIRTUOUS”- Kural 449

(See Tulsidas’ poem in the end)

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 “What profit is there in Meru, the mountain of gold,

or of the hill of silver, where the trees that grow remain

.the same trees without any change ? We honour the hills

of Malaya, for by contact with them common trees like

the Trophis Aspera, the bitter Nimba, and the Karaya

become themselves even as sandal trees”.

किं तेन हेमगिरिणा रजताद्रिणा वा
यत्राश्रिताश्च तरवस्तरवस्त एव
मन्यामहे मलयम् एव यद्‌आश्रयेण
कङ्कोलनिम्बकटुजा अपि चन्दनाः स्युः 1.80

LET US COMPARE THIS VERSE WITH TIRUKKURAL,

“The cruel arrow may be straight and shapely and the sweet

Lute or lyre may be curved and shapeless. Therefore not by the appearance but by the deeds should the nature of men be judged”- Kural 279

“The quality of water changes with the soil. The mind changes with the association- Kural 452

Admittedly purity of mind would lead to heaven,

Even so good associations provide strong support”- Kural 459

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The Praise of Constancy.

“So. The gods rested not until they had gained posses-

sion of the nectar: they were not turned aside from the

search by pearls of great price, nor by fear of terrible

poison. Even so men of constant mind do not rest until

they have completely accomplished their object”.

रत्नैर्महार्हैस्तुतुषुर्न देवा
भेजिरे भीमविषेण भीतिम्
सुधां विना परयुर्विरामं

निश्चितार्थाद्विरमन्ति धीराः 1.81

Author of Tamil Veda Tirukkural says,

“Those who plan will get what they plan for, just as they planned it, provided they have strength of mind– Kural 666

Though hardships come thick, muster up courage and do that which will bring happiness in the end- Kural 669

The remnant of an action and of an enemy will, on reflection, be found as ruinous as the remnant of a fire”– Kural 674

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“ At one time a man may lie on the ground, at an-

other he may sleep on a couch ; at one time he may live

on herbs, at another on boiled rice ; at one time he may

wear rags, at another a magnificent robe. The man of

constant rnind, bent on his purpose, counts neither state

as pleasure nor pain.”

क्वचित्पृथ्वीशय्यः क्वचिदपि परङ्कशयनः
क्वचिच्छाकाहारः क्वचिदपि शाल्योदनरुचिः
क्वचित्कन्थाधारी क्वचिदपि दिव्याम्बरधरो
मनस्वी कार्यार्थी गणयति दुःखं सुखम् 1.82

This verse is similar to the verses in Bhagavad Gita:-

“He who behaves alike to foe and friend, also to good and evil repute and who is alike in cold and heat , pleasure and pain and who is free from attachment.

He who holds equal blame and praise, who is silent, content with anything, who has no fixed abode and is firm in mind , that man who is devoted  dear to Me”- B.G.12- 17/18

Tulsidas also echoed this in his poem

“Grant me , O Master, by thy grace

To follow all the good and pure

To be content with simple things

To use my fellows not as means but ends

To serve them stalwartly in thought, word and deed

Never to utter word of hatred or of shame

To castaway all selfishness and pride;

To speak no ill of others

To have a mind at peace

Set free from care and led astray from thee

Neither by happiness nor woe

Set thou my feet upon this path

And keep me steadfast in it

Thus only shall I please thee , serve thee right”

–Translated by Mahatma Gandhi (M K Gandhi), Songs from Prison, 1934, p.52

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Courtesy is the ornament of a noble man, gentle-

ness of speech that of a hero; calmness the ornament of

knowledge, reverence that of sacred learning; liberality

towards worthy objects is the ornament of wealth, free-

dom from wrath that of the ascetic; clemency is the

ornament of princes, freedom from corruption that of jus-

tice. The natural disposition, which is the parent of the

virtues in each, is their highest ornament.

ऐश्वर्यस्य विभूषणं सुजनता शौर्यस्य वाक्संयमो
ज्ञानस्योपशमः श्रुतस्य विनयो वित्तस्य पात्रे व्ययः
अक्रोधस्तपसः क्षमा प्रभवितुर्धर्मस्य निर्वाजता
सर्वेषाम् अपि सर्वकारणम् इदं शीलं परं भूषणम् 1.83

Tiruvalluvar in his Tamil Veda Tirukkural says,

“No jewels are more befitting a man than humility and pleasing speech – Kural 95

Without a word , he who understands the mind of the leader, is an ornament to the changeless sea-bound world –Kural 701

Humble reserve is good for all, it is an ornament for the rich in particular” — Kural 125

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“ The constant man may be blamed or praised by

those skilled in discerning character ; fortune may come

to him or may leave him ; he may die to-day or in ten

thousand years’ time ; but for all that he does not turn

aside from the path of righteousness”.

निन्दन्तु नीतिनिपुणा यदि वा स्तुवन्तु
लक्ष्मीः समाविशतु गच्छतु वा यथेष्ठम्
अद्यैव वा मरणम् अस्तु युगान्तरे वा
न्याय्यात्पथः प्रविचलन्ति पदं धीराः 1.84

The noble- natured will not swerve from equity in adversity or prosperity — Kural 115

NB:- Number of the verses of Niti Sataka may differ from other books; Since new slokas are introduced in different editions, we may never know which are of Bhartruhari’s. Fortunately, they are not many.

–subham–

FIVE WAYS OF GETTING SUPERNATURAL POWERS (Post No.6631)

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Causes for Karma/ Hetavah

Sariira- body; Vaak- speech; Manah – mind; Nyaayyam – righteous deeds;

Vipariita – unjust deeds.

Sariravangmanobhiryatkaarma prarabhate narah

Nyayyam va viparitam va paancaite tasya hetaavah

Bhagavd Gita 18-15

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No.5 in Archery – position of leg while shooting an arrow

Pratyaadliidha; Aaliidha; Samapaada; Vaisaakha; Mandalam.

Syat pratyalidhamalidhamitadhisthanapancakam- Amarakosam 2-8-86

Adhisabdadhatsamapadam vaisakham mandalam – Commentary of Ksirasvamin

Xxx

Skaddhah – World

 Ruupa- form; Vijnaana- sensation; Vedanaa- consciousness;

Samjnaa- Name; Samskara- impression.

Soayam citta caittatmakah skandhah pancavidhah- rupavijnana vedana samskara sanjakah

–Sarvadarsana samgrahah

Xxx

Sugndhaka- Fragrances

Flowers of Lavanga; Kakkola;Kaanda; Jaatiphala (nutmeg);

Karpuura (camphor).

Kusumani  lavangasya tatha kakkola kandayoh

Jatiphalani karpurametat pancasugandhakam

–sabdakalpadrumah 3-15

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Siddhausadhi – Herbs

Tailakanda; Sudhaakaanda; Kroda kanda; Rudaantika ; Sarpanetra.

Tailakanda sudhakanda krodakanda rudantikah

Sarpanetrayutah pancasiddhaausadhisamnjakah

-sabda kalpa drumah 3-15

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Supernatural power arises out of

Janma – birth;

Ausadhi – Herbs;

Mantra – mantra/spells;

Tapah – penance;

Samaadhi – absorption

Jamnamusadhi mantratapah samadhijah siddhayah – Yoga sutram 4-1

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RIVER SARASVATII

Five places where River Sarasvatii flows

Rudraavarta;

Kurukshetra;

Sriisthaala;

Puskara;

Prabhaasa.

Rudravarte kurukshetre sristhale puskarepi va

Prabhase pancame tirte panca Prachi sarasvatii

Xxx

Five Segments of Drama – Sandhayah

Mukham – opening; Pratimukham – Progression; Garbha- Development; Vimarsa – Pause; Nirvahana – Conclusion

Mukham pratimukham garbho vimarsasca tathaiva hi

Tatha nirvahanam caiva sandhayo natake smrutah

–Natyasastra 21-36

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Emperors of Ancient India- Samraajah

Yauvanaasvi (Maandhaataa);

Bhagiiratha;

Kaartaviirya;

Bharata;

Maruttah.

Jitva jayyan yauvanasih palananca bhagirathah

Kartaviryah tapoviryad bhalastu bharato vibuh

Ruddhya maruttastan panca samrajasvanususruma

-Mahabharatam (Sabhapaarvam) 15-15-6

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Satkaarya – Coexixtence of Cause and Effect

1.Asadakaranam – Non-creativity of non-existence;

2.Upaadaanagrahanam – Material cause;

3.Sarvasambhavaabhaavah – Non -existence of a particular effect in all things;

4.Saktasyasakaranam- Potentiality of capable things;

5.Kaaranabhaavaahaa – Intrinsic similarity of cause and effect

–Sankhyakarika -9

If you need the original slokas in Devanagari script, please go to Encyclopaedia of Numerals , Volume 1, The Kuppuswami Sastri Research Institute, Chennai- 600 004, Year 2011

Xxx subham xxx

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Five “P”-s that make Women Great! (Post No.6588)

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Panca amrtam, Panca gavyam, Panca yajyam are posted already- see the links given below

What are Panchangam? Panchmrutam … – Tamil and Vedas



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29 Feb 2016 – The five ingredients of pachamrta are: Dugdham – milk. Sarkara – sugar. Ghrtam – ghee or clarified butter. Dadhi – curd. Madhu – honey.

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–subham–

Panca Vayus, Five Dances, Panca tantra (Post No.6531)

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Five Bija Mantras-

Ham- ether; Yam – Air; Ram – Fire; Vam- Water; Lam- earth.

XXX subham XXX

FIVE QUALITIES OF KALI YUGA (Post No.6521)

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Number Three in Sanskrit and Tamil Literature (Post No.6315)

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TAMILS GAVE SO MUCH IMPORTANCE TO NUMBER THREE.

(SEE MORE TAMIL 3s IN MY TAMIL ARTICLE)

–SUBHAM—

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WHEN DOES A BRAHMIN BECOME A SHUDRA? (Post No.6143)

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We have already seen first seven chapters of Manu Smrti known as Manava Dharma Shastra. Now let us look at 106 verses of the Eighth chapter. Some may wonder or get agitated when they read discrimination against Shudras in some issues. We dont know whether they were followed  verbatim at any time. Even Hammurabi’s strict Code of Law, they say, was not followed verbatim. But we know for sure that until 25 years ago, blacks in South Africa were treated as animals without basic rights. We know for sure that blacks were treated as animals in America till Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and others fought for their rights. We know for sure that Romans and Greeks denied others even the basic rights. We know for sure that England gave special privileges to Lords. So, when one reads these verses, one must see the world that existed at least 2500 years ago and compare it with them. The reason being that we don’t see the practise of these strict rules against a particular community in 2500 year old Jataka tales or other literature. Only one incident in Valmiki Ramayana against a shudra is an interpolation, according to scholars.

INTERESTING BULLET POINTS

1.BRAHMINS ARE SHUDRAS : see verse8-102

2)-18 TITLES OF LAW- See verses 8: 3 to 7

3.WHAT IS JUSTICE-  see quotations in verses 8: 14-17

4.LIE DETECTOR- modern lie detector follows what Manu says in verse 8-25, 26

5.TREASURE TROVE- these are interesting- see 8: 35-39

6.EQUAL RIGHTS TO 4 CASTES- see verse 8-40

7.WOMEN ARE NOT GOOD WITNESSES- see verse 8-77

8.FALSE WITNESS- Varuna will punish; see verse 8- 82

9.GOOD SEES EVERYTHING- see verse 8- 85

10.UNGRATEFUL MEN AND WOMEN SLAYERS- see 8-89; it is in Tamil verse Purananuru 34; also in Valmiki Ramayana and Panchatantra

11.EQUAL TO KILLING 1000 PEOPLE- see verse 8-98;false witness about men

12.YOU MAY TELL A LIE TO SAVE A SHUDRA-  see verse 8-104; to save a life of a good person you may tell a lie; Tamil poet Tiru valluvar also justifies lies- see Kural 291 and 292

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MANU SMRTI -CHAPTER VIII.

APPEARANCE IN THE COURT OF LAW

8-1. A king, desirous of investigating law cases, must enter his court of justice, preserving a dignified demeanour, together with Brahmanas and with experienced councillors.

2. There, either seated or standing, raising his right arm, without ostentation in his dress and ornaments, let him examine the business of suitors,

18 TITLES OF LAW

8-3. Daily (deciding) one after another (all cases) which fall under the eighteen titles (of the law) according to principles drawn from local usages. and from the Institutes of the sacred law.

4. Of those (titles) the first is the non-payment of debts, (then follow), (2) deposit and pledge, (3) sale without ownership, (4) concerns among partners, and (5) resumption of gifts,

5. (6) Non-payment of wages, (7) non-performance of agreements, (8) rescission of sale and purchase, (9) disputes between the owner (of cattle) and his servants,

6. (10) Disputes regarding boundaries, (11) assault and (12) defamation, (13) theft, (14) robbery and violence, (15) adultery,

7. (16) Duties of man and wife, (17) partition (of inheritance), (18) gambling and betting; these are in this world the eighteen topics which give rise to lawsuits.

8. Depending on the eternal law, let him decide the suits of men who mostly contend on the titles just mentioned.

9. But if the king does not personally investigate the suits, then let him appoint a learned Brahmana to try them.

10. That (man) shall enter that most excellent court, accompanied by three assessors, and fully consider (all) causes (brought) before the (king), either sitting down or standing.

BRAHMINS DECIDING THE CASE

8-11. Where three Brahmanas versed in the Vedas and the learned (judge) appointed by the king sit down, they call that the court of (four-faced) Brahman.

12. But where justice, wounded by injustice, approaches and the judges do not extract the dart, there (they also) are wounded (by that dart of injustice).

13. Either the court must not be entered, or the truth must be spoken; a man who either says nothing or speaks falsely, becomes sinful.

WHAT IS JUSTICE

8-14. Where justice is destroyed by injustice, or truth by falsehood, while the judges look on, there they shall also be destroyed.

15. ‘Justice, being violated, destroys; justice, being preserved, preserves: therefore justice must not be violated, lest violated justice destroy us.’

16. For divine justice is said to be a bull (vrisha); that man who violates it (kurute ‘lam) the gods consider to be a man despicable like a Sudra (vrishala); let him, therefore, beware of violating justice.

8-17. The only friend who follows men even after death is justice; for everything else is lost at the same time when the body (perishes).

18. One quarter of (the guilt of) an unjust (decision) falls on him who committed (the crime), one quarter on the (false) witness, one quarter on all the judges, one quarter on the king.

19. But where he who is worthy of condemnation is condemned, the king is free from guilt, and the judges are saved (from sin); the guilt falls on the perpetrator (of the crime alone).

ANTI SUDRA STATEMENTS

20. A Brahmana who subsists only by the name of his caste (jati), or one who merely calls himself a Brahmana (though his origin be uncertain), may, at the king’s pleasure, interpret the law to him, but never a Sudra.

8-21. The kingdom of that monarch, who looks on while a Sudra settles the law, will sink (low), like a cow in a morass.

8-22. That kingdom where Sudras are very numerous, which is infested by atheists and destitute of twice-born (inhabitants), soon entirely perishes, afflicted by famine and disease.

23. Having occupied the seat of justice, having covered his body, and having worshipped the guardian deities of the world, let him, with a collected mind, begin the trial of causes.

24. Knowing what is expedient or inexpedient, what is pure justice or injustice, let him examine the causes of suitors according to the order of the castes (varna).

LIE DETECTOR TEST

8-25. By external signs let him discover the internal disposition of men, by their voice, their colour, their motions, their aspect, their eyes, and their gestures.

8-26. The internal (working of the) mind is perceived through the aspect, the motions, the gait, the gestures, the speech, and the changes in the eye and of the face.

27. The king shall protect the inherited (and other) property of a minor, until he has returned (from his teacher’s house) or until he has passed his minority.

28. In like manner care must be taken of barren women, of those who have no sons, of those whose family is extinct, of wives and widows faithful to their lords, and of women afflicted with diseases.

PUNISHING THIEVES, protecting females

8-29. A righteous king must punish like thieves those relatives who appropriate the property of such females during their lifetime.

30. Property, the owner of which has disappeared, the king shall cause to be kept as a deposit during three years; within the period of three years the owner may claim it, after (that term) the king may take it.

31. He who says, ‘This belongs to me,’ must be examined according to the rule; if he accurately describes the shape, and the number (of the articles found) and so forth, (he is) the owner, (and) ought (to receive) that property.

32. But if he does not really know the time and the place (where it was) lost, its colour, shape, and size, he is worthy of a fine equal (in value) to the (object claimed).

33. Now the king, remembering the duty of good men, may take one-sixth part of property lost and afterwards found, or one-tenth, or at least one-twelfth.

34. Property lost and afterwards found (by the king’s servants) shall remain in the keeping of (special) officials; those whom the king may convict of stealing it, he shall cause to be slain by an elephant.

ONE SIXTH OF THE TREASURE

8-35. From that man who shall truly say with respect to treasure-trove, ‘This belongs to me,’ the king may take one-sixth or one-twelfth part.

36. But he who falsely says (so), shall be fined in one-eighth of his property, or, a calculation of (the value of) the treasure having been made, in some smaller portion (of that).

37. When a learned Brahmana has found treasure, deposited in former (times), he may take even the whole (of it); for he is master of everything.

38. When the king finds treasure of old concealed in the ground let him give one half to Brahmanas and place the (other) half in his treasury.

39. The king obtains one half of ancient hoards and metals (found) in the ground, by reason of (his giving) protection, (and) because he is the lord of the soil.

FOUR CASTES HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS

8-40. Property stolen by thieves must be restored by the king to (men of) all castes (varna); a king who uses such (property) for himself incurs the guilt of a thief.

41. (A king) who knows the sacred law, must inquire into the laws of castes (jati), of districts, of guilds, and of families, and (thus) settle the peculiar law of each.

42. For men who follow their particular occupations and abide by their particular duty, become dear to people, though they may live at a distance.

43. Neither the king nor any servant of his shall themselves cause a lawsuit to be begun, or hush up one that has been brought (before them) by (some) other (man).

Deer simile

8-44. As a hunter traces the lair of a (wounded) deer by the drops of blood, even so the king shall discover on which side the right lies, by inferences (from the facts).

45. When engaged in judicial proceedings he must pay full attention to the truth, to the object (of the dispute), (and) to himself, next to the witnesses, to the place, to the time, and to the aspect.

46. What may have been practised by the virtuous, by such twice-born men as are devoted to the law, that he shall establish as law, if it be not opposed to the (customs of) countries, families, and castes (gati).

47. When a creditor sues (before the king) for the recovery of money from a debtor, let him make the debtor pay the sum which the creditor proves (to be due).

48. By whatever means a creditor may be able to obtain possession of his property, even by those means may he force the debtor and make him pay.

49. By moral suasion, by suit of law, by artful management, or by the customary proceeding, a creditor may recover property lent; and fifthly, by force.

50. A creditor who himself recovers his property from his debtor, must not be blamed by the king for retaking what is his own.

51. But him who denies a debt which is proved by good evidence, he shall order to pay that debt to the creditor and a small fine according to his circumstances.

52. On the denial (of a debt) by a debtor who has been required in court to pay it, the complainant must call (a witness) who was present (when the loan was made), or adduce other evidence.

53. (The plaintiff) who calls a witness not present at the transaction, who retracts his statements, or does not perceive that his statements (are) confused or contradictory;

54. Or who having stated what he means to prove afterwards varies (his case), or who being questioned on a fact duly stated by himself does not abide by it;

55. Or who converses with the witnesses in a place improper for such conversation; or who declines to answer a question, properly put, or leaves (the court);

56. Or who, being ordered to speak, does not answer, or does not prove what he has alleged; or who does not know what is the first (point), and what the second, fails in his suit.

57. Him also who says ‘I have witnesses,’ and, being ordered to produce them, produces them not, the judge must on these (same) grounds declare to be non-suited.

58. If a plaintiff does not speak, he may be punished corporally or fined according to the law; if (a defendant) does not plead within three fortnights, he has lost his cause.

59. In the double of that sum which (a defendant) falsely denies or on which (the plaintiff) falsely declares, shall those two (men) offending against justice be fined by the king.

60. (A defendant) who, being brought (into court) by the creditor, (and) being questioned, denies (the debt), shall be convicted (of his falsehood) by at least three witnesses (who must depose) in the presence of the Brahmana (appointed by) the king.

61. I will fully declare what kind of men may be made witnesses in suits by creditors, and in what manner those (witnesses) must give true (evidence).

GIVING EVIDENCE

8-62. Householders, men with male issue, and indigenous (inhabitants of the country, be they) Kshatriyas, Vaisyas, or Sudras, are competent, when called by a suitor, to give evidence, not any persons whatever (their condition may be) except in cases of urgency.

63. Trustworthy men of all the (four) castes (varna) may be made witnesses in lawsuits, (men) who know (their) whole duty, and are free from covetousness; but let him reject those (of an) opposite (character).

64. Those must not be made (witnesses) who have an interest in the suit, nor familiar (friends), companions, and enemies (of the parties), nor (men) formerly convicted (of perjury), nor (persons) suffering under (severe) illness, nor (those) tainted (by mortal sin).

65. The king cannot be made a witness, nor mechanics and actors, nor a: Srotriya, nor a student of the Veda, nor (an ascetic) who has given up (all) connexion (with the world),

66. Nor one wholly dependent, nor one of bad fame, nor a Dasyu, nor one who follows forbidden occupations, nor an aged (man), nor an infant, nor one (man alone), nor a man of the lowest castes, nor one deficient in organs of sense,

67. Nor one extremely grieved, nor one intoxicated, nor a madman, nor one tormented by hunger or thirst, nor one oppressed by fatigue, nor one tormented by desire, nor a wrathful man, nor a thief.

ROLE OF WOMEN

8-68. Women should give evidence for women, and for twice-born men twice-born men (of the) same (kind), virtuous Sudras for Sudras, and men of the lowest castes for the lowest.

69. But any person whatsoever, who has personal knowledge (of an act committed) in the interior apartments (of a house), or in a forest, or of (a crime causing) loss of life, may give evidence between the parties.

70. On failure (of qualified witnesses, evidence) may given (in such cases) by a woman, by an infant, by an aged man, by a pupil, by a relative, by a slave, or by a hired servant.

71. But the (judge) should consider the evidence of infants, aged and diseased men, who (are apt to) speak untruly, as untrustworthy, likewise that of men with disordered minds.

72. In all cases of violence, of theft and adultery, of defamation and assault, he must not examine the (competence of) witnesses (too strictly).

73. On a conflict of the witnesses the king shall accept (as true) the evidence of the) majority; if (the conflicting parties are) equal in number, (that of) those distinguished by good qualities; on a difference between (equally) distinguished (witnesses, that of) the best among the twice-born.

74. Evidence in accordance with what has actually been seen or heard, is admissible; a witness who speaks truth in those (cases), neither loses spiritual merit nor wealth.

75. A witness who deposes in an assembly of honourable men (Arya) anything else but what he has seen or heard, falls after death headlong into hell and loses heaven.

76. When a man (originally) not appointed to be a witness sees or hears anything and is (afterwards) examined regarding it, he must declare it (exactly) as he saw or heard it.

DON’T TRUST WOMEN AS WITNESSES

8-77. One man who is free from covetousness may be (accepted as) witness; but not even many pure women, because the understanding of females is apt to waver, nor even many other men, who are tainted with sin.

78. What witnesses declare quite naturally, that must be received on trials; (depositions) differing from that, which they make improperly, are worthless for (the purposes of) justice.

79. The witnesses being assembled in the court in the presence of the plaintiff and of the defendant, let the judge examine them, kindly exhorting them in the following manner:

80. ‘What ye know to have been mutually transacted in this matter between the two men before us, declare all that in accordance with the truth; for ye are witnesses in this (cause).

81. ‘A witness who speaks the truth in his evidence, gains (after death) the most excellent regions (of bliss) and here (below) unsurpassable fame; such testimony is revered by Brahman (himself).

VARUNA WILL PUNISH

8-82. ‘He who gives false evidence is firmly bound by Varuna’s fetters, helpless during one hundred existences; let (men therefore) give true evidence.

83. ‘By truthfulness a witness is purified, through truthfulness his merit grows, truth must, therefore, be spoken by witnesses of all castes (varna).

84. ‘The Soul itself is the witness of the Soul, and the Soul is the refuge of the Soul; despise not thy own Soul, the supreme witness of men.

GOD SEES EVERYTHING

8-85. ‘The wicked, indeed, say in their hearts, “Nobody sees us;” but the gods distinctly see them and the male within their own breasts.

86. ‘The sky, the earth, the waters, (the male in) the heart, the moon, the sun, the fire, Yama and the wind, the night, the two twilights, and justice know the conduct of all corporeal beings.’

87. The (judge), being purified, shall ask in the forenoon the twice-born (witnesses) who (also have been) purified, (and stand) facing the north or the east, to give true evidence in the presence of (images of) the gods and of Brahmanas.

88. Let him examine a Brahmana (beginning with) ‘Speak,’ a Kshatriya (beginning with) ‘Speak the truth,’ a Vaisya (admonishing him) by (mentioning) his kine, grain, and gold, a Sudra (threatening him) with (the guilt of) every crime that causes loss of caste;

PURANANURU (SANGAM TAMIL BOOK)

8-89. (Saying), ‘Whatever places of torment (hell) are assigned by the sages  to the slayer of a Brahmana, to the murderer of women and children, to him who betrays a friend, and to an ungrateful man, those shall be thy (portion), if thou speakest falsely.

90. ‘(The reward) of all meritorious deeds which thou, good man, hast done since thy birth, shall become the share of the dogs, if in thy speech thou departest from the truth.

91. ‘If thou thinkest, O friend of virtue, with respect to thyself, “I am alone,” (know that) that sage who witnesses all virtuous acts and all crimes, ever resides in thy heart.

92. ‘If thou art not at variance with that divine Yama, the son of Vivasvat, who dwells in thy heart, thou needest neither visit the Ganges nor the (land of the) Kurus.

93. ‘Naked and shorn, tormented with hunger and thirst, and deprived of sight, shall the man who gives false evidence, go with a potsherd to beg food at the door of his enemy.

94. ‘Headlong, in utter darkness shall the sinful man tumble into hell, who being interrogated in a judicial inquiry answers one question falsely.

Fish eating simile

8-95. ‘That man who in a court (of justice) gives an untrue account of a transaction (or asserts a fact) of which he was not an eye-witness, resembles a blind man who swallows fish with the bones.

96. ‘The gods are acquainted with no better man in this world than him, of whom his conscious Soul has no distrust, when he gives evidence.

97. ‘Learn now, O friend, from an enumeration in due order, how many relatives he destroys who gives false evidence in several particular cases.

EQUAL TO KILLING 1000 PEOPLE

8-98. ‘He kills five by false Testimony regarding (small) cattle, he kills ten by false testimony regarding kine, he kills a hundred by false evidence concerning horses, and a thousand by false evidence concerning men.

99. ‘By speaking falsely in a cause regarding gold, he kills the born and the unborn; by false evidence concerning land, he kills everything; beware, therefore, of false evidence concerning land.

100. ‘They declare (false evidence) concerning water, concerning the carnal enjoyment of women, and concerning all gems, produced in water, or consisting of stones (to be) equally (wicked) as a lie concerning land.

101. ‘Marking well all the evils (which are produced) by perjury, declare thou openly everything as (thou hast) heard or seen (it).’

BRAHMINS BRCOME SUDRAS

8-102. Brahmanas who tend cattle, who trade, who are mechanics, actors (or singers), menial servants or usurers, the (judge) shall treat like Sudras.

103. In (some) cases a man who, though knowing (the facts to be) different, gives such (false evidence) from a pious motive, does not lose heaven; such (evidence) they call the speech of the gods.

TIRUKURAL OF TIRUVALLUVAR

8-104. Whenever the death of a Sudra, of a Vaisya, of a Kshatriya, or of a Brahmana would be (caused) by a declaration of the truth, a falsehood may be spoken; for such (falsehood) is preferable to the truth.

105. Such (witnesses) must offer to Sarasvati oblations of boiled rice (karu) which are sacred to the goddess of speech, (thus) performing the best penance in order to expiate the guilt of that falsehood.

106. Or such (a witness) may offer according to the rule, clarified butter in the fire, reciting the Kushmanda texts, or the Rik, sacred to Varuna, ‘Untie, O Varuna, the uppermost fetter,’ or the three verses addressed to the Waters.

–to be continued

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Enmity without Rhyme or Reason; Why? Wonders Bhartruhari! (Post No.6138)

Written  by london swaminathan

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Date: 1 March 2019


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Post No. 6138


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Let us continue with Niti Sataka of Bhartruhari and compare it with Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar and others

Bhartruhari  52, 53, 54,55

52. Is it possible to take pleasure in the society of a

low man, dissolute, whose evil is all evident, whose wicked

acts are the result of former births, who hates virtue, and

who lives by chance ?

Tamil poet Tiru Valluvar, author of Tamil Veda Tirukkural says,

It is harmful even to dream of association with men,

Whose words and actions are disgracefully different – Kural 819

उद्भासिताखिलखलस्य विशृङ्खलस्य
प्राग्जातविस्तृतनिजाधमकर्मवृत्तेः ।
दैवादवाप्तविभवस्य गुणद्विषो‌உस्य
नीचस्य गोचरगतैः सुखम् आप्यते ॥ 1.52 ॥

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53. The friendships formed between good and evil men

differ. The friendship of the good, at first faint like the

morning light, continually increases ; the friendship of the

evil at the very beginning is great, like the light of mid-

day, and dies away like the light of evening. (some verses  compare it with the long and  short shadows at different times  oft the day)

Even the Greek philosopher Pythagoras held the friendship and modesty in high esteem. Of his five important principles, friendship is given an importance place.

Tiru valluvar uses the simile of  waxing and waning moon.,

The friendship of the worthy develops day by day like the waxing crescent moon,

But foolish alliances deteriorate as the waning thereof – Kural 782

आरम्भगुर्वी क्षयिणी क्रमेण
लघ्वी पुरा वृद्धिमती च पश्चात् ।
दिनस्य पूर्वार्धपरार्धभिन्ना
छायेव मैत्री खलसज्जनानाम् ॥ 1.53 ॥

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Why are there enemies for virtuous people?

54. Deer, fish, and virtuous men, who only require grass,

water, and peace in the world, are wantonly pursued by

huntsmen, fishermen, and envious people.

Using animal fables to teach morals has been in vogue in India from the days of Ramayana and Mahabharata. Later, Jataka tales, Panchatantra and Hitapodesa expanded on the theme. Bhartruhari approach this from a different angle.

मृगमीनसज्जनानां तृणजलसन्तोषविहितवृत्तीनाम् ।
लुब्धकधीवरपिशुना निष्कारणवैरिणो जगति ॥ 1.54 ॥

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Companionship of the Good!

55. Desire for the companionship of the good, love for

the virtues of others, reverence for spiritual teachers, dili-

gence in acquiring wisdom, love for their own wives, fear

of the world’s blame, reverence for Siva, self-restraint,

freedom from the acquaintance with evil men wherever

men dwell endowed with virtues like these, they are

always reverenced.

वाञ्छा सज्जनसङ्गमे परगुणे प्रीतिर्गुरौ नम्रता
विद्यायां व्यसनं स्वयोषिति रतिर्लोकापवादाद्भयम् ।
भक्तिः शूलिनि शक्तिरात्मदमने संसर्गमुक्तिः खले
येष्वेते निवसन्ति निर्मलगुणास्तेभ्यो नरेभ्यो नमः ॥ 1.55 ॥

Bhartruhari says lot of things in one verse! Many of Adi Shankara’s verses can be compared with his sayings.  Greatness of satsangam (assosiation with  good people). But I will give some verses from Tirukkural:-

Cultivate amity and seek help from men who remove present ills and guard you from future ills – 442

To please great men and makes them one’s own is the rarest of the rare blessings -443

There is no help better than good company and no trouble worse than evil company -460

Reverence for the spiritual teachers is reflected in the mot famous verse Gurur Brahma, Gurur Vishnu………………. Which is repeated in all the Vedic schools and schools where tradition is respected. every day

Reverence for Lord Shiva is in over 18,000 verses classified as Panniru Tirumurai in Tamil and all the verses of Adi Shankara.

Fear of the world’s blame is reflected in Tirukkural and Sangam Tamil literature.

A Tamil verse in Purananuru  says if it will bring fame they will give even their life; but if it brings evil name, they wont accept it even if you them the entire world.  

Tiru Valluvar in his Tirukkural says

Though he sees his mother starving, let him not do those actions which are condemned by the wise- 656

To be continued……………….

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சம்ஸ்கிருதத்தில் நையாண்டி சுபாஷிதங்கள் (Post No.6118)

Written by S.Nagarajan

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Date: 25 FEBRUARY 2019


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