Post No. 10,622

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Let us analyse more verses in the Hymn to Earth (Bhumi Sukta) of Atharvana Veda (AV.12-1)

We have covered up to 43 stanzas or Mantras so far.

44th Mantra talks about the hidden treasures such as gold and gemstones. This shows the Vedic poets were aware of the mineral wealth under the earth. It is corroborated by innumerable references to gem (Mani)  studded golden jewelleries; it was a wealthy society and they dug out gold and gems from under the earth.

45th verse is more interesting; the poet talks about people speaking different languages and people worshipping various gods with different rites. This shows the Vedic society was in touch with the Egyptian and Babylonian religions. We have a supporting proof. We have a man from Harappa speaking a different language with an interpreter. Moreover the Panis i.e. the Phoenicians traders were also mentioned frequently in the Rig Veda, the oldest book in the world. The Indus Valley man might have spoken Sanskrit or a proto Sanskrit language.

Verse 46 mentioned the poisonous creatures such as snakes and scorpions, centipedes and millepedes and the poet seeks protection from such creatures.

Let us pause here for a while and ponder over the many things, subjects, topics the poet remembers in one hymn. He talks about the happiest scenes on earth such as dancers and musicians, wealthiest treasures such as gold and gems and at the same time he remembers the dangers on earth.

Here in verse or stanza 47, we come across beautiful roads on which fast moving chariots ‘fly’. But like we see bad people on earth today, Vedic society also had robbers. If you see the jails around the world today, we see millions of criminals inside the prisons; leave alone the criminals still outside attending the courts in handcuffs. And yet we think we are far advanced in civilization! The poet warns us about such elements.

Stanza 48 talks about the fools and idiots, the burden of earth, along with intellectuals. it gives us a practical picture of earth. We live in the same condition today. When we see million scientists, we also see billion idiots and criminals.

Now the poet moves to dark tropical rain forests where tigers and lions roam.  And also the uncivilised, uncultured cannibals- the demons known as Rakshasas.

Verse 50 mentioned ghosts or demons unknown to us today- Arayas, Kimidins. We know the Picasas and Rakshas from later literature. Strangely the poet mentioned the Gandharvas and Apsaras in the hated list. It may be due to that they distract one from good path. They were the heavenly singers and dancers. Ancient people believed that they take various forms , come to earth and fool people or trap people into bad habits.

Stanza 51 described the beautiful birds and the stormy monsoon days. Rig Veda also referred to Forest fires. Here we see the flames in the sky- thunder and lightning – and flames on the earth, -the forest fires.

Along with some scenes from the civilized cities the poet shows us the tropical rain forests. A true picture of earth!

We will look at the last 12 stanzas in the next article. There are 63 verses or stanzas in the Bhumi Sukta.

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To be continued ………………….

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A beautiful prayer is in this mantra.

“Let no one hate me. Let me shine like gold”.

And note the adjectives “big and great speed of earth”.

Is it not amazing to see the attributes BIG EARTH, GREAT SPEED?

3000 years ago (date of AV 1000 BCE or before) there was no mobile phone or internet. Not much transport either between two places. And yet the poet describes “Earth! You are Vast and Mighty”.

“Your speed is also mighty”. Now only we know it rotates at the speed of 1000 miles per hour

“Consider the movement of the earth’s surface with respect to the planet’s center. The earth rotates once every 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09053 seconds, called the sidereal period, and its circumference is roughly 40,075 kilometers. Thus, the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 460 meters per second–or roughly 1,000 miles per hour”—Scientific American


“As schoolchildren, we learn that the earth is moving about our sun in a very nearly circular orbit. It covers this route at a speed of nearly 30 kilometers per second, or 67,000 miles per hour. In addition, our solar system–Earth and all–whirls around the center of our galaxy at some 220 kilometers per second, or 490,000 miles per hour. As we consider increasingly large size scales, the speeds involved become absolutely huge”- Scientific American

But this information was not available to anyone a few hundred years ago. Hindu saints knew it through their intuition or observation from space!

And let us continue with the same mantra……

The “Moving and Shaking of the Earth”- The Big Blue Marble!

Though Earthquakes are referred to in later Hindu scriptures and 2000 year old Sangam Tamil literature, AV poet also did not miss it.

And look at the beautiful prayer…..


VEDIC SOCIETY WAS VERY RICH. Very rarely we see the word poverty. The reference to gold and golden jewellery are numerous. It was an agricultural society. Tamils wished everyone to live as many years as the number of stars or number of sand particles on the shore or as many as drops of rain. But one AV hymn says “as many as the grains”. It was a pukka agricultural community.


Vedic Hindus were great mathematicians. The whole world agrees that Chatur Anga, now known as Chess, is invented by the Hindus. One saint went to a king and taught this beautiful board game chess. The king was amazed and was ready to offer anything he asked. The Hindu saint smiled at him and said, “Not much, put one grain in square 1 of the chess board and then put 2 grains in square and go on doubling like this until you cover all the 64 squares on the chess board. The king thought that he could do it easily.

On the entire chessboard there would be 264 − 1 = 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of wheat, weighing about 1,199,000,000,000 metric tons. This is about 1,645 times the global production of wheat (729,000,000 metric tons in 2014 and 780.8 million tonnes in 2019).”

No one would have thought it. Hindus were great geniuses. There are many secrets with numbers in the Vedas. Westerners who translated Vedas 150 years ago knew nothing about other fields. So, they ignored the big numbers as fancy numbers with no special meaning.

Now we know they were idiots and not scholars.


Look at the last request of the poet in this mantra…………..


Even God would hesitate to say YES to his request.

Every one of us falls in love with someone without any rhyme or reason. In the same way our boss in the office hates one person for no reason and loves or likes someone else for no reason. An actor known as MGR in Tamil film world was liked by millions of people. All women were after him. But he died without an issue! He even attracted an article in the Readers Digest magazine. Million uneducated, illiterate and educated used to wait all through the night to see him. He never came to the meeting right on time. Everywhere he was stopped by surging crowd. I believe it is due to his previous births as king or a popular emperor. God or a real Guru only can cancel any bad Karma from our previous births.

We are also subject to anger and jealousy. We say something in anger and the reactions follow us as like our own shadow. Hatred develops. One of the great Tamil saints is Ramalinga Swamikal also known as Vallalar of Vadalur. He prays to God Let me not hate anyone. Let others also not hate me. I don’t want to call any one You silly fellow! Dog or ghost (Tamil words rhyme with Chi/Nay/Pey)


Sanskrit words used in this mantra 18 are Mahat , Mahati, Mahaan, Hiranyam/gold, Mahaan Vega /great speed

And the poet concludes saying “such a beautiful earth is protected by UNERRING Inrda/God”.

Everything in the universe go by mathematical calculations. If there is a mistake that is one millionth of a fraction of a second, universes would collapse. Knowing this, poet says UNERRING god (Indra stands for God) protect the earth. It is very true. Space scientists knew this very well. A very small error will send the satellite billions of miles away from the target.

Here is the poem from Vallalar:-

  ஈயென்று நானொருவரிட நின்று கேளாத
        இயல்பு மென்னிட மொருவரீ
        திடுவென்ற போதவர்க் கிலையென்று சொல்லாம
        லிடுகின்ற திறமும் இறையாம்
    நீயென்று மெனைவிடா நிலையும் நானென்று முன்
        னினை விடா நெறியு மயலார்
        நிதியொன்று நயவாத மனமு மெய்ந்நிலை நின்று
        நெகிழாத திடமு முலகில்

    சீயென்று பேயென்று நாயென்று பிறர்தமைத்
        தீங்கு சொல்லாத தெளிவும்

        திரமொன்று வாய்மையும் தூய்மையும் தந்துநின்
        திருவடிக் காளாக்கு வாய்
    தாயொன்று சென்னையிற் கந்தகோட்டத்துள் வளர்
        தலமோங்கு கந்த வேளே
        தண்முகத் துய்யமணி யுண்முகச் சைவமணி
        சண்முகத் தெய்வ மணியே.

To be continued……………………

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Post No. 10,117

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There is a beautiful poem in the Rig Veda which reveals a lot of information. One poet by name Sisu Angiras sings this poem in the ninth Mandala RV 9-112. The last line is the same in four stanzas. We see such refrain in scores of poems through out the ten mandalas. Poems with refrains are seen in Egyptian Book of Dead and Sangam Tamil literature. Even today most of the Hindu devotional Bhajans have this type of songs.

Let us look at the poem and then I give my comments: –

1. WE all have various thoughts and plans, and diverse are the ways of men.

     The Brahman seeks the worshipper, carpenter seeks the cracked wood, and leech the maimed. Flow, Indu, flow for Indra’s sake.


2. The smith with ripe and seasoned plants, with feathers of the birds of air,

     With stones, and with enkindled flames, seeks him who hath a store of gold. Flow, Indu, flow for Indra’s sake.


3. A bard am I, my dad’s a leech, mammy lays corn upon the stones.

     Striving for wealth, with varied plans, we follow our desires like kine. Flow, Indu, flow for Indra’s sake.


4. The horse would draw an easy car, gay hosts attract the laugh and jest.

     The male desires his mate’s approach, the frog is eager for the flood, Flow, Indu, flow for Indra’s sake.

R T H Griffith’s Translation

My views

The poet must be a good psychologist. He reflects common thinking. This smashes the views of Max Muller gang and Marxist gang. Both the gangs told us that the Vedic Hindus migrated to India, and they were nomads. But here we see well established vocations. They were not nomads. Another point to be noted is there was no hereditary jobs. In one and the same family, mother was grinding corn; father was working as a medicine man and the singer himself was a poet. So he earned his livelihood by singing songs or composing poems. it shows that there were no caste-based vocations.

Doctors and brahmins were expecting money from the injured and the devoted. Griffith is using leeches for doctors. It was a contemptible term for medicine men.

It looks like the black smiths who made weapons were earning a good sum. Here they are eying the gold from rich merchants or kings.

The last mantra or stanza shows that all expect a big fat salary  for less work; they are ready to do only light work.  The references to horse drawn chariots are found through out the Rig Veda. There must be very good roads and transport facilities. There are over 60 terms for chariots in the Vedic literature. And we read elsewhere wealth brought in horse drawn carts . Good road transport shows a civilized city life.  When the poet says his mother was grinding grains mean she was also earning and it was a agricultural community. They were farmers and not nomads.

Frog was longing for rain and brahmins were longging dakshina/ religious fee from the worshippers .

In South India women dance and sing while doing harvest or during religious festivals. Tamil epic Silappadikaram and Sangam Tamil book Ainkuru Nuru  have such refrains which shows the musical talents of village folk.

This poem is also a piece like that Tamil Kummi or Tamil harvest song (Ulakkai Pattu). Since it is found in Ninth Mandala which is full of hymns on Soma Juice, we may assume this was also sung while they were extracting Soma juice.

There is also another verse on Soma plant sung by women. That confirms the participation of women in every aspect of life.

RV 9-112 in Sanskrit :–

नानानं वा उ नो धियो वि वरतानि जनानाम |
तक्षा रिष्टं रुतं भिषग बरह्मा सुन्वन्तमिछतीन्द्रायेन्दो परि सरव ||

जरतीभिरोषधीभिः पर्णेभिः शकुनानाम |
कार्मारो अश्मभिर्द्युभिर्हिरण्यवन्तमिछतीन्द्रायेन्दो परि सरव ||

कारुरहं ततो भिषगुपलप्रक्षिणी नना |
नानाधियोवसूयवो.अनु गा इव तस्थिमेन्द्रायेन्दो परि सरव ||

अश्वो वोळ्हा सुखं रथं हसनामुपमन्त्रिणः |
शेपो रोमण्वन्तौ भेदौ वारिन मण्डूक इछतीन्द्रायेन्दो परि सरव ||

nānānaṃ vā u no dhiyo vi vratāni janānām |
takṣā riṣṭaṃ rutaṃ bhiṣagh brahmā sunvantamichatīndrāyendo pari srava ||

jaratībhiroṣadhībhiḥ parṇebhiḥ śakunānām |
kārmāro aśmabhirdyubhirhiraṇyavantamichatīndrāyendo pari srava ||

kārurahaṃ tato bhiṣaghupalaprakṣiṇī nanā |
nānādhiyovasūyavo.anu ghā iva tasthimendrāyendo pari srava ||

aśvo voḷhā sukhaṃ rathaṃ hasanāmupamantriṇaḥ |
śepo romaṇvantau bhedau vārin maṇḍūka ichatīndrāyendo pari srava ||


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Story-‘Aasaa Dukhasya Kaaranam’ (Post No.4748)

Date: 15 FEBRUARY 2018


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Post No. 4748


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There is no misery, if there is no desire- says Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar (Kural 368)


‘’Aasaa Dukhasya Kaaranam’’ , (Desire invites Misery) says a Sanskrit proverb.


‘’Striving for wealth with different designs, we follow our desires like cattle’’- says Rig Veda 9-19(3)


‘’Desire, which is never extinguished by the enjoyment of desired objects only becomes more intense like a fire fed with butter ‘’– Manu Smrti 2-94


There is a Telugu folklore in a hundred year old book. The story is as follows:

Four friends lived in Chitrapur and they were extremely poor. They decided to practise austerities. After some time, Goddess Kali appeared before them and gave them a talisman each. Since they asked for richness and happiness she told them to place the talisman on their heads and walk northwards. She told each one of them to dig the earth when a person’s talisman fell on the earth and take whatever one gets.


The four friends set out on their travel. At a distance, the talisman of the first man fell on the ground. Immediately he dug out the earth, an enormous quantity of copper was found. he told the other three friends that he was very happy and wanted to go back. Everyone agreed.

When they walked further north the second person’s talisman fell on the ground. The spot was dug into and he found enormous quantity of silver. He told them that he also wanted to go back like the first man. The other two proceeded further. one of the person’s talisman fell on the ground and the ground was dug into. There was enormous quantity of gold. By this time both of them were very tired. So the person who found gold said to the other man to come back with him and he would share the gold. But the fourth man who was very greedy still had the talisman on his head. He told the gold- man to go back and then proceeded further north.


After some time he was very happy because his talisman fell on the ground. He thought that he was  going to see mine of diamonds. But there was only iron when he dug into the ground. He was very tired and could not even take back the iron. He came such a long distance and already friends had gone back. So he could not take any of the iron. More over it would be uneconomical to transport from such a  long distance. He was dis appointed.

Now he learnt “ The man with unlimited desire is indeed poor but, if one is satisfied with what one has, can be rich” (Bhartruhari)

–Subham —


Gold and Touch Stone in Kalidasa and Tamil Literature (Post No.3887)

Written by London Swaminathan


Date: 7 May 2017


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Post No. 3887


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Gold is a precious bright yellow metal. Streaks of gold appears charming on the black touch stone, and it remains firm and distinct on the clean touch stone. So Tamil and Sanskrit poets have used this image in their poems.


In Kalidasa’s Meghaduta, the flashes of lightning in dark-blue cloud are imagined to be as charming as  the streak of gold on the black touchstone which has peculiar brightness (Meghaduta 40)


In the Vikrama Urvasiyam (5-19), Kalidasa used the touch stone simile which is used by several Sangam age Tamil Poets as well.

The Goddess of Wealth, though fickle by nature became steady due to the magnanimous and virtuous qualities of King Atithi as a streak of gold on the clean touch stone remains firm and distinct (Raghuvamsa 17-46)


प्रसादाभिमुखे तस्मिंश्चपलापि स्वभावतः।
निकषे हेमरेखेव श्रीरासीदनपायिनी॥ १७-४६

prasādābhimukhe tasmiṁścapalāpi svabhāvataḥ |
nikaṣe hemarekheva śrīrāsīdanapāyinī|| 17-46


The lady called kingdom-fortune though naturally fickle was constant with him who was inclined to be gracious; and hence she was like an ineffaceable streak of gold upon a touchstone. [17-46]


In Sangam Tamil Literature

Famous Sangam Tamil Poet Paranar compares a rock strewn with yellow flowers to a touch stone with gold streaks (Akananauru 178)

Ilamkeeranaar in Natrinai verse 3 says the illiterate children used to play with gooseberries in a touchstone shaped circle (Narrinai 3)

Berisattanar, in Natrinai verse 25, says that the beetle that sucked nectar from the flowers looked like a touch stone with gold streaks, because the beetle was smeared with the golden coloured pollen grains.

In Kuruntokai 192, Kachipedu Nannaakaiyaar, says that the black winged cuckoo looks like a touchstone with golden streaks after it visited the mango flowers loaded with pollen grains.


Perumpanatruppadai author uruththirankannanar also used the touchstone simile (Line 221)

Tamil Veda Tirukkural (505) says,

“A man’s deeds are the touchstone of his greatness and littleness.”


Kalidasa’s 200 similes were used by the Sangam age Tamil poets 2000 years ago. I have been showing that Kalidasa lived well before Sangam age somewhere between first and second century BCE. Kalidasa could not have copied from scores of Tamil poets. Then the world would not have praised him for the apt similes Moreover Kalidasa had better knowledge about the Ganges, Himalayas, Northern rivers and Hills and mythological characters than the Tamil poets.


Raghuvamsa sloka is taken from the



How Did a Pandya King Get a Golden Hand?

By S Swaminathan

It is a well known fact that the Ancient Indians made tremendous advancements in the field of medical sciences. The Ayurveda and Siddha medical systems were widely practised for the benefit of the general public. Charaka and Susrutha wrote great treatises. A lot of surgical instruments, surgeries like rhinoplasty (plastic surgery for nose), hundreds of medicinal plants and thousands of medicines were listed by them. They were not only appreciated in India but reached western world through Arabic translations nearly one thousand years ago. The old medical books in Sanskrit and Tamil run in to several thousand pages.

Though Charaka, Susrutha,Vagbhata and Agastya are known to many even in the western world, one important surgery went unnoticed by many scholars. There is a very interesting story about a Pandya king in ancient Tamil literature. The king lived two thousand years ago is known from the Tamil epic Silappathikaram (Ref.Mathurai Kandam-Katturai Kaathai) dated around second century AD. A Pandya king was fitted with an artificial hand made of gold; he was known only as the Golden Handed Pandya. Nobody knows his real name even today. One more old Tamil book refer to this story (Ref. Pazamozi Naanuru).

The Story:

The story according to the epic runs like this: a Pandya king was going through the streets of Madurai (the second largest city of Tamil Nadu in South India) in disguise during the night. In the olden days kings used to visit their subjects and observe the general public in disguise to feel the pulse of the populace. Though the ancient Arthashastra of Kautilya speaks of kings employing spies for this purpose, the monarchy always wanted to know what the people feel about them or the country directly.(Every Hindu knew what Rama did to Sita just because a washer man raised some doubts about the purest woman Sitadevi). So much importance was given to the opinion of general public – absolute democracy!

When the Pandya king was passing by a house the lights were on at the dead of night and he heard a conversation. A brahimn by name Keeranthai was consoling his crying wife with these words, ”Darling, don’t worry too much about your safety and security. I am only going to be away for a very short period. Our great king is there to protect all the citizens. Nothing will go wrong in this just place”. As soon as the king heard this conversation he felt some big responsibility fell on his shoulders. So he increased his ward rounds and kept an eye on that house. Months passed. To his surprise he saw light again in the same house at the dead of night. He heard someone talking. In a hurry he mistook that person for a stranger and knocked at the door to scare away the stranger. Alas, it was not a stranger. It was her own husband Keeranthai himself who had just returned from his tour. When Keeranthai shouted back, the king realised his mistake.

One stupid mistake will make you to do more stupid things to hide the first one. It is human nature. So the king knocked at all the houses in the brahmin street and ran away to his palace. Next day a battalion of brahmins went to the palace and complained about what happened the previous night. The king, after patiently listening to their complaints, said to them that the ‘thief’ was already caught. All his ministers were surprised to hear his statement. The king did not stop there. He asked the opinion of the complainants what should be the punishment for that ‘thief’. Everyone shouted in chorus to follow the Hammurabi law: a hand for hand, an eye for an eye. The hand that knocked on the doors must be cut off. Before a second lapsed the king drew his sword and cut off the hand with which he had knocked on the doors the previous night. When he narrated the incident, the whole world praised his justice. The royal physicians rushed for his help and attached a gold hand to his arm. He came to be known as a Gold Hand Pandya in Tamil “Por Kai Pandyan”.

This is a story to elucidate the justice that was followed in ancient Tamil Nadu. No medical information was given about fixing the artificial limb but it didn’t surprised any Indian (please read my article Why do British Judges follow a TamilKing?) because they practised either the Ayurveda or the Siddha medical system.

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