COMPILED by London Swaminathan 


Date: 25 May 2018


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Post No. 5046


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Manu was a great genius; he thought of possible loopholes which may be used for sex abuse. He says respect your teacher’s son but don’t touch him. You can do massaging or shampooing to your aged Guru and but not to his son even if he sits in the teacher’s seat.

The amazing thing about Manu Smrti is that he knww the human psychology thoroughly and discusses it in a very refined way; not using vulgar words.

You can respect your mother and sister, but never ever sit alone with the women. He knows that one in a million can go wrong. Apart from that, sister may be cousins; mothers may be step mothers or sisters of mothers.

Durga Sapta Sati says ‘Jnaninaam api chetami Devi Bhagavati hi sa balad aksrushya mohaya’……………. (Even saints will be falter if Goddess decides to attract one into illusionary pleasures)


ॐ ज्ञानिनामपि चेतांसि देवी भगवती हि सा।
बलादाकृष्य मोहाय महामाया प्रयच्छति॥१॥

He talks about Guru Dakshina (Fees to Guru during convocation) and advised to do it according to one’s ability. Manu was a practical man. With the original gems of Manu Smrti lot of gem like stones are also mixed up. So one must be careful to get rid of the chaff from the grains.

Since Manu talks about Sarasvati River and not saying anting about some later customs like Sati, he must have live during the Vedic times. Later many things were added for good or bad.


In the continuation of second chapter please see the highlights:-

Showing respect to Low caste women (2-210)

Learning from Low cate people (2-241)

Treating Teacher’s son (2-209)

Spending time with women (2-215)

Students’ Hair Style (2-219)

What is good?  (2-224)

Respect three people (2-225)



Manu Smrti Second Chapter (about Vedic School Students)



2-206. This is likewise ordained as his constant behaviour towards other instructors in science, towards his relatives to whom honour is due, towards all who may restrain him from sin, or may give him salutary advice.

2-207. Towards his betters let him always behave as towards his teacher, likewise towards sons of his teacher, born by wives of equal caste, and towards the teacher’s relatives both on the side of the father and of the mother.

  1. The son of the teacher who imparts instruction (in his father’s stead), whether younger or of equal age, or a student of the science of sacrifices or of other branches/Angas, deserves the same honour as the teacher.



2-209. A student must not shampoo the limbs of his teacher’s son, nor assist him in bathing, nor eat the fragments of his food, nor wash his feet.

  1. The wives of the teacher, who belong to the same caste, must be treated as respectfully as the teacher; but those who belong to a different caste, must be honoured by rising and salutation.
  2. Let him not perform for a wife of his teacher (the offices of) anointing her, assisting her in the bath, shampooing her limbs, or arranging her hair.
  3. A pupil who is full twenty years old, and knows what is becoming and unbecoming, shall not salute a young wife of his teacher (by clasping) her feet.
  4. It is the nature of women to seduce men in this (world); for that reason the wise are never unguarded in (the company of) females.
  5. For women are able to lead astray in (this) world not only a fool, but even a learned man, and (to make) him a slave of desire and anger.



2-215. One should not sit in a lonely place with one’s mother, sister, or daughter; for the senses are powerful, and master even a learned man.

  1. But at his pleasure a young student may prostrate himself on the ground before the young wife of a teacher, in accordance with the rule, and say, ‘I, N. N., (worship thee, O lady).’
  2. On returning from a journey he must clasp the feet of his teacher’s wife and daily salute her (in the manner just mentioned), remembering the duty of the virtuous.
  3. As the man who digs with a spade (into the ground) obtains water, even so an obedient (pupil) obtains the knowledge which lies (hidden) in his teacher.



2–219. A student may either shave his head, or wear his hair in braids, or braid one lock on the crown of his head; the sun must never set or rise while he lies asleep in the village.

  1. If the sun should rise or set while he is sleeping, be it that he offended intentionally or unintentionally, he shall fast during the next day, muttering (the Savitri).
  2. For he who lies sleeping, while the sun sets or rises, and does not perform that penance, is tainted by great guilt.
  3. Purified by sipping water, he shall daily worship during both twilights with a concentrated mind in a pure place, muttering the prescribed text according to the rule.



2-223. If a woman or a man of low caste perform anything leading to happiness, let him diligently practise it, as well as any other permitted act in which his heart finds pleasure.

  1. Some declare that the chief good consists in the acquisition of spiritual merit and wealth, others place it in the gratification of desire and(the acquisition of wealth, others in the acquisition of spiritual merit alone, and others say that the acquisition of wealth alone is the chief good here below; but the correct decision is that it consists of the aggregate of those three.



2-225. The teacher, the father, the mother, and an elder brother must not be treated with disrespect, especially by a Brahmana, though one be grievously offended (by them).

  1. The teacher is the image of Brahman, the father the image of Pragipati (the lord of created beings), the mother the image of the earth, and an (elder) full brother the image of oneself.
  2. That trouble (and pain) which the parents undergo on the birth of (their) children, cannot be compensated even in a hundred years.
  3. Let him always do what is agreeable to those (two) and always (what may please) his teacher; when those three are pleased, he obtains all (those rewards which) austerities (yield).
  4. Obedience towards those three is declared to be the best (form of) austerity; let him not perform other meritorious acts without their permission.
  5. For they are declared to be the three worlds, they the three (principal) orders, they the three Vedas, and they the three sacred fires.



  1. The father, forsooth, is stated to be the Garhapatya fire, the mother the Dakshinagni, but the teacher the Ahavaniya fire; this triad of fires is most venerable.

(These three fires are 3 different fire places in a Brahmin’s House; 2000 year old Tamil Sangam literature praises Brahmins as the Worshipers of Three Fires)

  1. He who neglects not those three, even after he has become a householder, will conquer the three worlds and, radiant in body like a god, he will enjoy bliss in heaven.
  2. By honouring his mother he gains this (nether) world, by honouring his father the middle sphere, but by obedience to his teacher the world of Brahman.
  3. All duties have been fulfilled by him who honours those three; but to him who honours them not, all rites remain fruitless.
  4. As long as those three live, so long let him not independently perform any other meritorious acts; let him always serve them, rejoicing to do what is agreeable and beneficial to them.
  5. He shall inform them of everything that with their consent he may perform in thought, word, or deed for the sake of the next world.
  6. By honouring these three all that ought to be done by man, is accomplished; that is clearly the highest duty, every other act is a subordinate duty.
  7. He who possesses faith may receive pure learning even from a man of lower caste, the highest law even from the lowest, and an excellent wife even from a base family.
  8. Even from poison nectar may be taken, even from a child good advice, even from a foe a lesson in good conduct, and even from an impure substance gold.
  9. Excellent wives, learning, the knowledge of the law, the rules of purity, good advice, and various arts may be acquired from anybody.


2-241. It is prescribed that in times of distress a student may learn the Veda from one who is not a Brahmana; and that he shall walk behind and serve such a teacher, as long as the instruction lasts.

  1. He who desires incomparable bliss in heaven shall not dwell during his whole life in the house of a non-Brahmanical teacher, nor with a Brahmana who does not know the whole Veda and the Angas.
  2. But if a student)desires to pass his whole life in the teacher’s house, he must diligently serve him, until he is freed from this body.
  3. A Brahmana who serves his teacher till the dissolution of his body, reaches forthwith the eternal mansion of Brahman.

GURU DAKSHINA (Student’s Fees)

2-245. He who knows the sacred law must not present any gift to his teacher before the Samavartana/ convocation; but when, with the permission of his teacher, he is about to take the final bath, let him procure a present for the venerable man according to his ability,

  1. (Viz.) a field, gold, a cow, a horse, a parasol and shoes, a seat, grain, even vegetables, and thus give pleasure to his teacher.
  2. A perpetual student must, if his teacher dies, serve his son provided he be endowed with good qualities, or his widow, or his Sapinda, in the same manner as the teacher.
  3. Should none of these be alive, he must serve the sacred fire, standing by day and sitting during the night, and thus finish his life.
  4. A Brahmana who thus passes his life as a student without breaking his vow, reaches (after death) the highest abode and will not be born again in this world.





Where is Heaven? Sangam Tamil Poets and Chanakya Answer !! (Post No.4650)

Written by London Swaminathan 


Date: 22 JANUARY 2018


Time uploaded in London – 20-22


Post No. 4650

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There are many amazing similarities between Sangam Tamil poets and Chanakya. There is a time gap of at least five hundred years and there is a distance gap of at least two thousand miles between the two. But yet they had similar views on life. Where is Heaven? They answer in the same way!


Pisiranthaiyaar was a famous Tamil poet of Sangam age. He must have lived in the first or second century of our era. And we all knew that Chanakya lived in the third century BCE. Chanakya was a great genius and his Niti shastra and Arthashastra are very famous.

What is the secret of black hair? 


Stress triggers or complicates most of the diseases is a modern discovery. But a Tamil Cankam/ Sangam poet called Pisiranthaiyar who lived 2000 years ago gives the secret of his black hair at a ripe old age in a beautiful Tamil poem.

When Pisiranthaiyar went to see the great Chola king Kopperun cholan (who was starving himself to death following an ancient Tamil rite) all were amazed to see an old poet without any grey hair. When they asked about the secret of his black hair, he sang;

“How can it be you don’t have any grey hair, through you have lived for many years?

You have asked the question and I will give you an answer!

My children have gone far in learning. My wife is rich in her virtue!

My servants do what I wish and my king, who shuns corruption, protects us!

And in my city there are many noble men who through deep knowledge, have acquired calm, have become self -controlled, and the choices they make in their lives are built on the quality of restraint.”

-(Purananuru 191 by Pisiranthaiyar)

To put it in a nutshell:

My son is well educated ( so obedient)

My wife is very cooperative

My servants are obedient

My king is a good ruler

My town is full of scholars

If one has all these, one need not worry. If you lead a care free life, you won’t be stressed. You will be ever young like Markandeya. Modern science says that stress triggers blood pressure, heart diseases, cancer and diabetes.

Now look at what Chanakya says about the same topic


“He whose son is obedient, whose wife acts as per his wish and who is contented with what he has, for him the heaven is here, in this world. Itself.”

Chanakya  Niti, chapter 2, sloka 3


Yasya putra vasiibhuutho bhaaryaa chandaanugaaminii

Vibhave yasya santhaanushti tasya svarga ehaivahi



Education in Low Family 

‘In extremity, one is permitted to learn even the Vedas from someone who is not a Brahmin and to walk behind him and obey him like a Guru as long as the instruction lasts’ — Manu 2-241

It is interesting that Tamil king Nedunchezian who lived 2000 years ago also said the same about education in verse 183 of Purananuru.

A rough translation of the verse runs like this:

“Learn by all means, spend money on education, render help to your Guru. The reason is that even mothers favour the learned among her sons. Even the king would call for service the learned even if he is the youngest in a family. Even among the four castes, if a low caste man is educated, the high caste would respect him and follow him”


Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar who lived 1500 years ago also said the same:-

“Though high born, an unlettered man is lower than a learned man of lower birth” – Kural  409


Chanakya says,

“What has one to do with a high family where there is no education? One born in a low family, if learned is adored even by gods”.

Chapter 8, sloka 19

Kim kulena visaalena vidhyaahiinena dehinaam

Dushkuliino api vidhvaamsca devairapi supuujyate

Great Men Think Alike!!!



Manu Smrti on Low Caste Women (Post No.2946)


Written by London swaminathan

Date: 5 July 2016

Post No. 2946

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The oldest law book in the world ‘Manu Smrti’ has very interesting couplets on women who were born in low caste.


A man who has faith may receive good learning even from a man who is lower, the ultimate law even from a man of lowest caste, and a jewel of a woman even from a bad family.

Manu 2-238


Ambrosia may be extracted even from poison;

And good advice even from a child;

Good conduct even from an enemy;

And gold even from impure ore.

Manu 2-239

Women, jewels, learning, law, purity, good advice and various crafts may be acquired from anybody


Manu 2-240

In extremity, one is permitted to learn even the vedas from someone who is not a Brahmin and to walk behind him and obey him like a guru as long as the instruction lasts

Manu 2-241

It is interesting that Tamil king Nedunchezian who lived 2000 years ago also said the same about education in verse 183 of Purananuru. Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar who lived 1500 years ago also said the same:-

Though high born, an unlettered man is lower than a learned man of lower birth. Kural – 409


Low Caste Woman Arundhati

When a woman is joined with a husband in accordance with the rules, she takes on the very same qualities that he has, just like a river flowing down into the ocean (River=wife, Ocean = husband).

Manu 9-22

When Akshamala (Arundhati), who was born of the lowest, united with Vasishta, and Sarangi, the hunter woman with Mandapala, they became worthy of honour.

Manu 9-23

Six acts banned for women


Associating with bad people

Being separated from their husbands

Wandering about

Sleeping alone in other places

And living in other peoples’ houses

Are the six things that corrupt women.

Manu 10-13


Respect Women! Or else you will be destroyed!!


Manu’s severe warning:–


Fathers, brothers, husbands, and brothers-in-laws who wish for great good fortune should revere women and adorn them Manu 3-55

The gods delight in places where women are respected, but where women are not honoured all rites are fruitless

Manu 3-56


Where the women of the family feel miserable, that family is soon destroyed, but the family where the women are happy thrives well

Manu 3-57

Homes that are cursed by the women who have not treated with reverence are completely destroyed, as if struck down by magic



Therefore, men who wish to prosper should always revere those women with ornaments, clothes and food at celebrations and festivals

Manu 3-59

There is unwavering good fortune in a family where the husband is always satisfied by the wife, and the wife by the husband

Manu – 3-60

Nowhere else in the world we can see such support for women. Manu was the greatest supporter of women’s rights.