SOMA JUICE IN BHARATI POEMS AND BHAGAVAD GITA (Post No.10,426)

WRITTEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN
Post No. 10,426
Date uploaded in London – – 9 DECEMBER 2021

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Foreign translators of the Vedas misled the entire world with a wrong interpretation of the Soma herb. They dodged when starnge information about Soma herb came without interpretation or translation. Soma is brought by ealgles from heaven, Soma is a red tree, Soma purifies mind, Soma cures, Soma drives away Sins, Soma in Bhagavd Gita, Soma in Vishnu Sahsranama etc are ignored by Westerners. Soma is praised by the national poet Subrahmanya Bharati is also not received any attention from any quarters.
Bhagavad Gita , Vishnu Sahsranama and Dalvaipuram Tamil Copper Plates and many other sources praise Soma juice and present it with a positive coonotation.
Bhagavad Gita 9-20
The knowers of the the three Vedas who drink the Soma juice and are cleaned of sin,worshipping me with sacrifices, pray for the way to heaven. They reach the holy world of Indra (the lord of heaven) and enjoy in heaven the pleasures of the gods (9-20)
Let us look at what the greatest of the modern Tamil poets say about Soma herb :-

Bhrati himself has translated this poem into English:-

Unto the Mother (A Song of Sacrifice)
Some cll thee Matter; others have named thee Force
As Nature some do adore thee; others know as life,
Some call thee Mind.Yet others have named thee God.
Energy Supreme, O Mother, by grace accept our sacrifice
drink this excellent soma-wine that we offer thee
and let us behold thy dance of Bliss
………
(and in the fourth stanza (according to Tamil version)
Bharati adds)

Luminous thought is our soma wine
we have passed it for thee from the bright leaves of earthly life
by the force of Will.
Drink it O Mother, for we long to behold thine exultant dance
and sing ourselves into gods

(And in the third stanza, Bharati left some part not translated, but Dr T N Ramachandran gives it in English within brackets)

O thou true nectar, healer of wounds
and maker of delights
O deathless fire, O source of light and force
(virtue and perfervour gush forth
From thee- the spa of divine grace!
Through hast vowed ever to stand by us
to foster us in loving grace)
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MY COMMENTS
Through out the Vedas, nectar, honey, Madhu/mead, Soma are used in interchangeable way. So no one is sure what the seers meant. They deliberately punned on the word Soma. Even according to Western translators it has more than three meanings.
Here in Tamil and Bharati’s own English translation we see Soma Juice in good and positive light.
In Tamil the title is ‘Siva Shakt’i and in English the title is
Unto the Mother (A Song of Sacrifice)
So we see Soma is deified as in the Vedas. There we see even the vessels that contain Soma are deified; the stones that press the Soma herb are deified. In short everything linked to Soma is Divine. Bharati is also in the same wave length. So it is not a narcotic drug as projected by the Westerners.
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In another verse also Bharati confirms his positive views on Soma Rasa unlike foreign translators:-
Vedic Rishis are punning on words and all the translators are confused with words like Soma, Madhu, Pasu, Ayas, Sea/Sky, Sindhu, Asva, Ship, Bird etc.
Even the Western translators clash on certain words and five people give five different meanings!
Coming to Soma, there is always a pun on this word to mean Soma herb and the Moon. Somasekar, Somasundaram are common names in Tamil linked to Lord Shiva.

Here DR T N RAMACHANDRAN translate the poem as Moon.
Look at the translation of the poem ‘Jaya Soma’

182.In Praise of the Moon
Hil, Soma, hail soma, hail Lord Chandra
Praise be, praise be.
Indra is the lord thanks to you.
Asuric Maya you did subdue
Wonderous earth you bathed with cool rays
You killed my woe and gave me grace
Lovers on earth you do protect
Two to thrive as one you connect
When darkness coms like clouds murky
Your smile makes it flee panicky.
–T N R
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MY COMMENTS
Here also there is pun on the word- Soma
Soma herb is associated with Indra throughout the Rig Veda and not Moon. Indra destroyed Asuras with the power of Soma herb says Rig Veda. Other lines in the poem may be attributed to both moon and Soma herb. So I take its as a poem on Soma herb for the simple reason that moon is not associated with Indra or with the destruction of Asuras.
From another angle, one may even say that Bharati also used the word Soma in two meanings like Vedic Rishis.
And to support my view I will even say that Bharti himslef sung on Moon with the Tamil word ‘Vennilavu’ in his other poems
I have given the Tamil originals for the sake of Tamil knowing public:-

சோமதேவன் புகழ் by Bharati
From http://www.lakshmansruthi.com
ஜய சோம, ஜய சோம, ஜய சோம தேவா!
ஜய ஜய!
சரணம்
நயமுடைய இந்திரனை நாயகத் திட்டாய்,
வயமிக்க அசரரின் மாயையைச் சுட்டாய்;
வியனுலகில் ஆநந்த விண்ணிலவு பெய்தாய்,
துயர்நீங்கி யென்னுளஞ் சுடர்கொளச் செய்தாய்;
மயல்கொண்ட காதலரை மண்மிசைக் காப்பாய்;
உயவேண்டி இருவருளம் ஒன்றுக் கோப்பாய்;
புயலிருண் டேகுமுறி யிருள்வீசி வரல்போற்
பொய்த்திரள் வருமதைப் புன்னகையில் மாய்ப்பாய்
— பாரதியார் கவிதைகள்
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சிவசக்தி by Bharati
இயற்கையென் றுனைரைப்பார்-சிலர்
இணங்கும்ஐம் தங்கள் என்றிசைப்பார்:
செயற்கையின் சக்தியென்பார்-உயித்
தீயென்பார் அறிவென்பார் ஈசனென்பார்;
வியப்புறு தாய்நினக்கே-இங்கு
வேள்விசெய் திடுமெங்கள்‘ஓம்’என்னும்
நயப்படு மதுவுண்டே?-சிவ
நாட்டியங் காட்டிநல் லருள்புரிவாய்
1

அன்புறு சோதியென்பார்-சிலர்
ஆரிருட் பாளின் றுனைப்புகழ்வார்:
இன்பமென் றுரைத்திடுவார்-சிலர்
எண்ணருந் துன்பமென் றுனைஇசைப்பார்;
புன்பலி கொண்டுவந்தோம்-அருள்
பூண்டெமைத் தேவர்தங் குலத்திடுவாய்
மின்படு சிவசக்தி எங்கள்
வீரைநின் திருவடி சரண்புகுந்தோம்.
2

உண்மையில அமுதாவாய்;-புண்கள்
ஒழித்திடு வாய்களி, உதவிடுவாய்!
வண்மைகொள் உயிர்ச்சுடராய்-இங்கு
வளர்ந்திடு வாய்என்றும் மாய்வதிலாய்;
ஒண்மையும் ஊக்கமுந்தான்-என்றும்
ஊறிடுந் திருவருட் சுனையாவாய்;
அண்மையில் என்றும் நின்றே-எம்மை
ஆதரித் தருள்செய்யும் விரதமுற்றாய்
3

தெளிவுறும் அறிவினைநாம்-கொண்டுங
சேர்த்தனம்,நினக்கது சோமரசம்;
ஒளியுறும் உயிர்ச்செடியில்-இதை
ஓங்கிடு மதிவலி தனிற்பிழிந்தோம்;
களியுறக் குடித்திடுவாய்-நின்றன்
களிநடங் காண்பதற் குளங்கனிந்தோம்;
குளிர்சுவைப் பாட்டிசைத்தே-சுரர்
குலத்தினிற் சேர்ந்திடல் விரும்புகின்றோம்
4

அச்சமும் துயரும் என்றே-இரண்டு
அசுரர்வந் தெமையிங்கு சூழ்ந்துநின்றார்.
துச்சமிங் கிவர்படைகள்-பல
தொல்லைகள் கவலைகள் சாவுகளாம்;
இச்சையுற் றிவரடைந்தார்-எங்கள்
இன்னமு தைக்கவர்ந் தேகிடவே,
பிச்சையிங் கெமக்களித்தாய்-ஒரு
பெருநகர் உடலெனும் பெயரின தாம்
5

கோடி மண் டபந்திகழும்-திறற்
கோட்டையிங் கிதையவர் பொழுதனைத்தும்
நாடிநின் றிடர்புரிவார்-உயிர்
நதியினைத் தடுத்தெமை நலித்திடுவார்.
சாடுபல் குண்டுகளால்-ஒளி
சார்மதிக் கூடங்கள் தகர்த்திடுவார்;
பாடிநின் றுனைப்புகழ்வோம்-எங்கள்
பகைவரை அரித்தெமைக் காத்திடுவாய்!
6

நின்னருள் வேண்டுகின்றோம்-எங்கள்
நீதியுந் தர்மமும் நிலைப்பதற்கே
பொன்னவிர் கோயில்களும்-எங்கள்
பொற்புடை மாதரும் மதலையரும்
அன்னநல் லணிவயல்கள்-எங்கள்
ஆடுகள் மாடுகள் குதிரைகளும்,
இன்னவை காத்திடவே அன்னை
இணைமலர்த் திருவடி துணைபுகந்தோம்.
7

எம்முயி ராசைகளும்-எங்கள்
இசைகளும் செயல்களும் துணிவுகளும்,
செம்மையுற் றிடஅருள்வாய் நின்தன்
சேவடி அடைக்கலம் புகுந்துவிட்டோம்
மும்மையின் உடைமைகளும்-திரு
முன்னரிட் டஞ்சலி செய்துநிற்போம்;
அம்மைநற் சிவசக்தி-எமை
அமரர்தம் நிலையினில் ஆக்கிடுவாய்
From http://www.lakshmansruthi.com
–பாரதியார் கவிதைகள்
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tags — tags- Bharatiyar, Soma, Moon, Herb, Soma juice, Bhagavd Gita 

SUN AND MOON PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK- ATHARVANA VEDA (Post No.10,420)

1000 MOON YAGNA- SAHASRA CHANDRA YAGNA

KANCHI SHANKARACHARYA ATTENDED 

WRITTEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

Post No. 10,420

Date uploaded in London – –   7 DECEMBER  2021         

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 All of us look at sun and moon going into sea or coming out of sea if you live in a coastal area. In Kanyakumari , the southernmost tip of India, tourists throng to see such memorable scene. We were waiting for an hour to see the sun disappearing/setting in Santorini island in Greece. Unless you go well in advance you wouldn’t get a vantage point to watch it. Vedic rishsis/seers were all over India and they speak about hills and vales, rivers and oceans, stars and planets and sun and moon.

All of us watch the full moon and sun; but only a Vedic seer described it beautifully in a poem. He gave free rein to his imagination. Sun and moon as two youngsters are playing by hiding in sea and coming out of it!! In other words, played Hide and Seek game. As children all of us have played hide and seek. Parents do play this game with their children But look at what a Vedic seer say about it:-

HYMN LXXXI; AV; BOOK 7; SUKTA 396

A hymn to the New Moon

1.Forward and backward by their wondrous power move these
   two youths, disporting, round the ocean.
  One views all living things, and thou, the other, art born again
   arranging times and seasons.


2.Thou art re-born for ever new: thou marchest, ensign of days,
   in forefront of the mornings.
  Marching thou dealest to the Gods their portion. Thou lengthe-
   nest, Moon! the days of man’s existence.


3.O spray of Soma, Lord of Wars! all-perfect verily art thou.
  Make me all-perfect, Beauteous One! in riches and in progeny.


4.Thou art the New Moon, fair to see, thou art complete in every
   part.
  May I be perfect, fully blest in every way in steeds and kine, in
   children, cattle, home, and wealth.


5.Inflate thee with his vital breath who hathes us and whom we
   detest.
  May we grow rich in steeds and kine, in children, cattle, houses,
   wealth.


5.With that unwasting stalk which Gods, unwasting Gods, in-
   crease and eat, p. a307
  May Varuna, Brihaspati, and Indra, the Lords and Guardians of
   the world, increase us.

XXX

PUN ON WORDS

FOREIGN GANG UNDER MAX MULLER GOT CONFUSED IN TRANSLATING AND INTERPRETING VEDAS.

The reason being they started translating them to denigrate or belittle Hinduism.

They did not believe in what Hindus believed. Moreover, they believed a faith which has quite opposite views.

Above all, those idiots wrote from foreign soil. Though a few people like Ralph T H Griffith lived in India, they did not practise Hinduism. Unless you practise something you wouldn’t know the intricacies, significance and the symbolic meanings in such things. Max Muller never visited India. Max Muller gang never watched anything Hindu. May be,  he may have seen some pictures.

Vedic rishis sing and dance saying we love talking in mysterious language; coded language; symbolic language. They just use numbers and leave it for your interpretation. Many thousand years after Vedic seers, Tamil Siddhas used that symbolic language. I have never seen such poems in any other language in the world. The number f poems with NUMBERS are enormous in the Rig Veda, the oldest book in the world, dated between 4000 BCE and 1500 BCE.

There is another difficulty in translating or interpreting Vedas. Several words, used quite often, have two or three meanings. Vedic rishis enjoyed pun on words like SINDHU, PASU, AYAS, MANU, SOMA, SEA/SKY, SARASVATI, INDRA, SHIP, ASVA etc

Actually we also do use such words with double meaning; every language has it. But one who is in the field, knows what one wants to say in a particular circumstance.

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MY COMMENTS

Here is my comment. Two youths are playing in the sea. Both sea and sky are blue in colour. So foreigners translated all seas as sky in the Vedas. That is a blunder. In this sukta also they did it. They say that two youths are playing in the sky. But it would make better sense if you imagine the real sea. Youths do this in village ponds and wells. They do play hide and seek in water and on the ground. One must underline the words

Forward and backward by their wondrous power move these
   two youths, disporting, round the ocean.
  One views all living things, and thou, the other, art born again
   arranging times and seasons.

Stanza /Mantra 1

The footnote says it is already in the Rig Veda 10-85-18

Most of the Atharvana Veda poems are taken from the oldest book in the world Rig Veda and presented with some minor changes. I don’t know why they did it.

Stanza /Mantra 2

Here is a beautiful description. Moon is described as the FLAG of the day. It announces the arrival of sun and disappears/sets. Hindus invented FLAG. It is in Harappan seal. Flags are in Ramayana and Mahabharata. Even today if you go to Tamil Nadu you can see the carriers of flags and other symbols go first, followed by drums on bulls, elephant and camels. Vedic pundits reciting Vedas also are part of the procession. Those who have not seen such things, couldn’t interpret Vedas properly. In North India, all such things gone into oblivion because of continuous foreign attacks from outside India.

There is another important statement in mantra two- YOU/moon LENGHTHEN THE DAYS OF MAN’S EXISTENCE.

This is a scientific matter which neither Russian nor American scientists have found yet. Throughout the Vedas, Moon is associated with plants’ growth. Soma stands for Moon and Soma herb. Mysterious properties of Soma plant are described all over the Vedas.

In Bhagavad Gita 9-20, Lord Krishna says

Those who drink Soma juice are cleansed of sin. By drinking the juice in fire sacrifices they go to heaven.

Greatest of the modern Tamil poets, Subrahmanya Bharati also praised Soma juice in two verses.

Dalavaipuram Copper Plates of Pandya Parantaka Veera Narayanan of 9th century CE praised ‘Manosuddha Somabana Kataka Soma Yaji’. One who drinks the Soma Juice is purified in Mind. It is an elixir which elevates you spiritually.

 Kanchi Paramacharya in his Vijaya Yatra book says those who do Soma Yaga (Fire sacrifice) are given white umbrella. Sanskrit literature and later Sangam Tamil literature also show white umbrella are held only by emperors.

Now I wonder the Soma here means the herb Soma or the Moon Soma. Moon associated with growth is yet to be confirmed by science. Seeing moon immediately after new moon day and full moon day are considered holy. If one sees 1000 such full moons then it leads to a great celebration.

Foreigners don’t know a thing about this Great Hindu ceremony known as Sahasra Chandra/Soma Darsana Ceremony.

Here is an old news item from year 2008:–

Sahasra Poorna Chandra Darshana Santhi Mahotsavam

Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba , the Divine incarnation of the Kali Yuga is entering the auspicious 83rd year of His advent on 23rd November, 2008. This holy event is an occasion providing us a unique opportunity to observe and celebrate it in a grand and auspicious manner.

The celebration of the completion of 1000 full moon days of the divine incarnation is a unique and auspicious event.

Words can’t explain the kind of bliss that thousands of devotees witnessed during the last day of Sahasra Poorna Chandra Darshana Shanthi Mahotsavam.

Apart from the many thousands, there were many Swami ji’s belonging to various temples, spiritual organisations and Institutions. The atmosphere was totally Divine and why not – it was the day to thank the DIVINE for coming to His world, and witnessing 1000 full moons in this BODY.

Kanchi Shankaracharya Sri Jayendra Sarasvathi attended the event along with other Heads of Mutts.

In short, moon is associated with growth and longevity.

Mantra 3

Here moon is linked with soma herb.

Lord of War is Moon! In all cultures planet Mars is associated with war. The colour of the planet is also blood red. But here, moon is called God of War! The footnote adds “probably because the first quarter of the moon was considered a favourable time for predatory excursions”.

But I think moon is associated with mind according to Vedas (RV.10-90). Next mantra is also about the tidal force

(High tides and low tides are caused by the moon. The moon’s gravitational pull generates something called the tidal force. The tidal force causes Earth—and its water—to bulge out on the side closest to the moon and the side farthest from the moon. These bulges of water are high tides.)

Mantra 4

Special fire sacrifices are done on New Moon and Full Moon days. Goddesses Anumati and Raka are worshipped by Vedic Hindus. And the Yagas are called Darsa purnamasa. New moon day called Amavasya is also important. Some people start the Hindu month from Amvasya . Here First seen is Amavasya. And then the seer prays for children,  cattle, horse, house and wealth it made more sense when they did special sacrifices. but later they left the fire sacrifice and started Purnima Puja. It is very popular among Devi worshippers. They do Pur nami puja with flowers and offer cooked Prasad. (I have seen it performed by Swamiji Krishna of Ayakkudi near Tenkasi)

New  moon is described as ‘complete’. For Hindus it is a complete day. They start new ventures on New Moon day.

Mantra 5

Here the seer asks the moon to bulge, surge. We know it happens on both full moon and new moon days. It disturbs people who are already suffering from mental health problems. And the argument is human body contains 70 percent water like earth. So the moon affects humans as well, particularly on Full moon and New moon days.

Here also the seer prays for all good things.

Mantra 6

Now there is a clear reference to Soma juice and its effect on Devas/ heavenly people. Like gods we must also increase/ grow prays the mantra. In short give us growth

The important thing is previous two mantras are also about Full moon and New moon days.

So it is better to look at them together. (I am giving them separately)

–subham–

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Hindu Beliefs in Shakespeare: Moon, Eclipse, Ghosts (Post No.4096)

Written by London Swaminathan


Date: 19 July 2017


Time uploaded in London- 17-11


Post No. 4096


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It is needless to say that Shakespeare was a great scholar, playwright and a poet. he must have read and heard about India a lot. He lived just 500 years ago and no wonder he knew about India and Hinduism; by that time lot of Europeans were travelling in different directions in search of wealth. We see several references to Hindu beliefs in his plays. Had he been an essayist he would have mentioned the sources; but he was only a playwright and his main aim was to satisfy the English audience.

I have been collecting such references from different sources; I have written about his reference to Nagaratna (Cobra gem) a few years ago. Now look at some more references about Moon, Eclipses and Ghosts.

Mr Crooke, in his book Popular Religion and Folk-Lore of Northern India, has an interesting note on the moon:

“The moon has several special functions in relation to disease. Roots and simples collected by moonlight are more efficacious”. This is quite Shakespearian for Jessica says,

 

“n such a night Medea gathered the enchanted herbs

That did renew old Aeson “(The Merchant of Venice)

And Laertes speaks of the poison ‘collected from all simples that have virtue under the moon’ (Hamlet) .

Also very common is the belief that any disease contracted by  a man under the waning moon tends to diminish. Patients are often told to look at the moon reflected in butter or milk or water, and the cure will be effected. This is mostly done in the case of leprosy and similar diseases.

“In spite of all these advantages there is very little special worship of the Moon. When an image is erected to him it is usually associated with that of the Sun God. Moon worship is most popular in Bengal and Behar.”

 

My comments

I have already written about Moon’s effect on mind, why Hindus worship moon, Nagaratna and Vedic hymns linking Plants and Moon. Western biologists have not yet found out what Hindus already knew. Soma is used to denote Moon, Soma herb and moon in astrology.

Eclipses in Shakespeare

Until today Hindus are the only race in the world who take eclipses seriously.  They knew the bad and good effects of the eclipses. Any prayer done during eclipse is 100 times more effective. Any food eaten during or just before the eclipse will have bad effects. Such beliefs and special rituals like propitiating the departed souls do not exist in any other religion. They put Dharba grass in all the cooked foods to save it from the radiation. The reason is that not all the eclipses are bad. But they want the same rules for all eclipses so that people will remember to follow them.

Eclipses are believed to be of evil omen. Gloucester summarises admirably the Hindu belief in passage in King Lear (1-2)

“These late eclipses in the sun and pointed no good to us… love cools, friendship falls off, brothers divide; in cities mutinies; in countries discord; in palaces treason; and the bond cracked ‘twixt son and father”.

 

Shakespeare said more than what Hindu scriptures said about the eclipses. Hindus will eat no food which has remained in the house during an eclipse, and all the earthen vessels which are in the house must be broken. During an eclipse, all the household business is suspended and eating and drinking prohibited. Even sleeping is forbidden. They bathe before and after the eclipse; use the time for prayers. Orthodox Hindus stand in the water and recite Gayatri mantra. Bathing during eclipse also cleanses from sin.

 

People born under particular stars wear special talisman, i.e., a palm leaf written with mantra is worn on forehead.

Though Hindus knew what causes eclipses and they calculated precisely and forecast the date and time, they told the laymen some stories. Ignorant people cant understand  astronomical calculations. They told the laymen that two planets (shadows) Rahu and Ketu are demons or snakes and they devour sun and moon.

Ghosts in Shakespeare

Foreigners have a big confusion about Hindu beliefs in ghosts. All the foreigners described Hindus as devil worshippers. Ignorant people like Dr Caldwell called all the Nadar community members as devil worshippers. Other foreigners described 90 percent Hindus are devil worshippers. This is because of their ignorance; they could not differentiate between the Asuras, Rakshasas, departed souls, Brahmarakshas (Brahmin ghosts), demon planets Rahu and Ketu and the actual ghosts (of people who died unnaturally in murders, suicides, accidents); apart from these some tribal beliefs about forests caves and hills (they are like Bermuda Triangles) and anything that cant be explained were classified as mysterious ghosts. Foreign writers classified all these as devil worships. Such beliefs exists in all parts of the world and in all cultures. Atharva Veda described even bacteria and Viruses as demons because the laymen won’t understand. Eclipsing planets such as Rahu and Ketu were described as demons but not ghosts

 

In King Lear, Shakespeare says,

:Unsepulchred they roamed and shrieked, each wandering ghost”.

The earliest Shakespeare in which Ghosts appear is Richard III. Richard is visited by the spirits of his victims in sleep.

In Hamlet, Horatio doubts the existence of ghosts that Barnardo and Marcellus claimed to have seen on two previous nights.

Horatio says that before Julius Caesar’s assassination,

“he sheeted dead

Did squeak and gibber in Roman streets”

In Julius Caesar, Shakespeare says, Brutus saw the apparition of murdered Caesar. He wondered whether it was some god or angel or devil.

 

This is definitely Hindu way of questioning.

In Macbeth Banquo’s ghost plays an important role.

In short all the important plays of Shakespeare have ghosts.

Monier William’s Ignorance:—

Rev, E Osborn Martin adds the epithet “bloody” for all the Hindu gods and goddesses: Shiva, Kali, Avatars of Vishnu and Ganesh! They are described in the chapter ‘Demon and Devil worship in India’ in his book ‘The Gods of India’.

Ignorant Sir Monier Williams writes, “the people worshipping a milkman who was killed by a tiger and he became devil”.

Sangam Tamil literature said that the heroes were worshipped after their death. If a person dies in an attack by a tiger or any animal when he tried to save the general public, Tamils erect Hero Stone for him and worship. Even today all the countries in the world erect memorials for their leaders and the visiting foreign dignitary must lay a wreath there. When some accidents happen people go to the spots and lay wreaths or flower bunches and light candles etc. Poor Monier Williams and his colleagues such as Caldwells would have described them as devil worship!

 

All the ladies who sacrificed their lives to save their honour or in Satee are worshipped! Ignorant foreigners called those devil worship. But they themselves erect war memorials in every nook and corner and ask Kings and Queens to lay flower wreaths every year. we can call them Devil worshippers!!

 

Sir Alfred Ryall declared that “every mysterious, gruesome looking dell, cavern, steep pass and wild and desolate hill top or ridge in Central India has its Deo (god), never seen of man, but felt by those who visit the spot – by shepherds and herdsmen camping out far amid the melancholy worlds or by travellers along the lonely tracks…. The whereabouts of the spirits is sometimes marked by a heap of stones, sometimes by rags tied to bush, occasionally by chains suspended mystically from a cliff or a tree; or the spirit wanders around a huge banyan tree or a ruined temple.

 

Mr Bowtring, in his Eastern Experiences (1871), described the Spirit Houses found in the Mysore Forests – little sheds built over the white ant hills and dedicated to the wood demons.

Captain Forsyth, writing about Berar, mentions that when the Gonds fell the wood on a hill side, they leave a little clump of trees to serve as a refuge for the spirit whom they have dislodged.

Westerners also believed in haunted buildings; every year newspaper articles about haunted places appear during Halloween times.

Sangam  age Tamils also believed that spirits occupy all the hills, water sources and trees. It is in Sangam literature. Those who don’t study both Tamil and Sanskrit literature blabber more than others. Hindus believed in ghosts but they are different from good spirits.

Tags: Shakespeare, Hindu Beliefs, Ghosts, Moon ,Eclipse, devil worship

 

–Subham–

 

 

 

தண்ணீர் கொண்டு வா — நியாயம்!

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சம்ஸ்கிருதச் செல்வம் – இரண்டாம் பாகம்

  1. தண்ணீர் கொண்டு வா — நியாயம்!

 

Post No 1619; Dated 3rd Febraury 2015

by ச.நாகராஜன்

 

நியாயங்களின் வரிசைத் தொடரில் மேலும் சில நியாயங்களைப் பார்ப்போம்:.

चन्द्रचन्द्रिकान्यायः

candracandrika nyayah

சந்திர சந்திரிகா நியாயம்

சந்திரனும் அதன் ஒளியும் பற்றிய நியாயம் இது. நிலவின் குளிர்ந்த ஒளியையும் நிலவையும் பிரிக்கவே முடியாது என்பதைச் சொல்லும் இந்த நியாயம் பிரிக்க முடியாதபடி இணைந்து பிணைந்து இருக்கும் இரு பொருள்களைக் குறிக்கப் பயன்படுத்தப்படுகிறது.


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जलानयनन्यायः

jalanayana nyayah

ஜலாநயன நியாயம்

 

நீரைக் கொண்டு வருதல் பற்றிய நியாயம் இது.

 

குடிக்கத் தண்ணீர் கொண்டு வா என்று ஒருவரிடம் சொன்னால் அதைக் கொண்டுவரும் போது அதை எடுத்து வருவதற்கான குவளையும் கொண்டு வா என்பதும் அதில் அடங்கும் அல்லவா! பிரிக்க முடியாத ஒன்றுடன் ஒன்று தொடர்பு கொண்ட இரு விஷயங்களைக் குறிப்பிட இந்த நியாயம் பயன்படுத்தப் படுகிறது.

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चित्रांगनान्यायः

citrangana nyayah

சித்ராங்கனா நியாயம்

ஓவியம் ஒன்றில் சித்தரிக்கப்படும் அணங்கு பற்றிய நியாயம் இது. எவ்வளவு தான் த்த்ரூபமாக ஒரு அழகியின் படத்தை வரைந்தாலும் கூட அந்த அழகி நேரில் இருப்பது போல ஆகுமா? ஆகாது. எவ்வளவு அரிய முயற்சி எடுத்து ஓவியத்தை வரைந்தாலும் கூட நிஜத்திற்கு அது நிகராகாது. அதே போல ஒருவன் எவ்வளவு தான் சித்தரித்தாலும் பேசினாலும் ஒரு விஷயத்தின் நிஜ ரூபம் காண்பிக்கப்படும் போது அதற்கு நிகராக எதுவும் ஆகாது என்பதைச் சுட்டிக் காட்ட இந்த நியாயம் பயன்படுத்தப்படுகிறது.

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कूर्माङ्गन्यायः

kurmanga nyayah.

கூர்மாங்க நியாயம்

கூர்மம் – ஆமை அங்கம் – உறுப்பு

ஆமையின் உறுப்புகள் பற்றிய நியாயம் இது. ஆமை தனது கழுத்து மற்றும் கால்களை தேவைப்படும்போது  மட்டுமே வெளியில் நீட்டும். தேவை இல்லாவிட்டாலோ அல்லது ஒரு ஆபத்து வந்தாலோ அது தன் கழுத்தையும் கால்களையும் இழுத்து தன் ஓட்டிற்குள் அடக்கிக்கொண்டு விடும். அதே போல விஷயம் தெரிந்த ஒருவன் தன் சக்தியை தேவைப்படும் போது மட்டுமே வெளியில் காட்டுவான். சரியான வாய்ப்பு வரும் போது தன் திறனைக் காட்டிப் பயன் பெறுவான். தேவையற்ற காலங்களில் அனாவசியமாக தன் திறமைகளைக் காட்டி சக்தியை விரயம் ஆக்க மாட்டான்; தம்ப்பட்டம் அடிக்க மாட்டான்.


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इक्षुविकारन्यायः

iksuvikara nyayah

இக்ஷுவிகார நியாயம்

 

கரும்பை எப்படியெல்லாம் மாற்றுகிறோம் என்பதைக் குறிக்கும் நியாயம் இது. கரும்பை வெட்டி எடுத்து அதை முதலில் நசுக்கி அதன் சாறு எடுக்கப்படுகிறது. அந்தச் சாறு சூடாக்கப்பட்டுப் பின்னர்  மெதுவாக திட நிலைக்கு கொண்டு  வரப்படுகிறது. பின்னர் அது சுத்திகரிக்கப்பட்டு அழகிய வெல்லக் கட்டிகளாக ஆக்கப்படுகிறது. படிப்படியாக ஒரு விஷயம் பக்குவப்படுத்தப்பட்டு இறுதியில் விரும்புகின்ற ஒரு வடிவமாக ஆவதைச் சுட்டிக்காட்ட இந்த நியாயம் பயன்படுத்தப்படும்.

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Mr.30! Indra and Chandra!! Rig Veda Mystery-5

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Research paper written by London Swaminathan
Research article No.1349; Dated 15h October 2014.

Indra and Chandra are called Mr.Thirty in Indian and Sumerian cultures respectively. Chandra, the Sanskrit word for moon, is a male deity in Hindu scriptures and astrology. But in several other cultures moon is feminine deity.

Indra is called Tri dasa pati (Three Ten Lord= Lord of Three Tens) in Hindu scriptures because he is the head of the thirty three Vedic Gods. But yet this number is rounded to 30!

Tridasa pati is used in Carnatic musicians’ compositions and inscriptions (Sravanabelagola inscription, Thyagaraja Kriti) and Hindu mythology.

The thirty three Gods are 12 Dwadasa Aditya, 11 Ekadasa Rudra and 8 Ashta Vasu and Two Asvins.

It is a coincidence that Sumerians also rounded the number 27 or 29 and a half to 30!
Why moon is called No.30?

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It seems that in all the cultures of the Near East the moon was imagined a male deity. In Anatolia, the Hurrian moon God was Kushuh corresponding to earlier Hattic god Kashku and Luwian Arna. The name was usually written with the name of the Mesopotamian moon god Sin or the numeral 30 – representing the thirty days in a month.

In Ugarit the moon god was Yarih.

Only the Greeks and the Romans worshipped moon as goddess. They were called Selene and Diana respectively.
Moons other names in different cultures:–
Menuo, Man Nannan, Mani, Myesyats , Mene, Kushukh, Amins, Soma , Chandra, Full moon : Pournami or Purnima;
In Tamil , Thingal, Nilavu and Pirai

The moon was the first calendar of the ancient people, as it disappears and reappears every month. The word for month comes from moon and that in turn comes from indo- European root ‘’me’’ – measure –. The god Mani determined the waxing and waning of the moon. One of his titles was ‘year-counter’ and another was ‘time teller’. The Norse and Anglo- Saxons had two kinds of months, a proper lunar month of 29 and half days and a common law month of 28 days.

Like Hindus Baltic culture believed that there is a connection between moon and the plants. Like Hindus they also sowed seeds during the bright half of the month. Baltic people also prayed to the new moon for health during full moon like Hindus . Major Hindu festivals are held on full moon days. In fact all the 12 full moons in a year are big festival days in the Hindu temples.

A lot of rituals are linked with full moon around the world. People thought that there is a link between the menstruation and ovulation of women. They prayed to moon for children. Hindus do Puja (worship) with flowers on Full Moon days. Many of the Hindu gods and goddesses have crescent moon on their head.

In Hinduism the word Soma is used for both the moon and a miraculous herb. Hindus use Sasi (Sin in Sumerian) Chandran (Suen in Sumerian) . In Tamil Thingal is moon like the Canaanite Nikkal. Nannan is also a familiar name in Sangam Tamil literature.

Nanna was a Mesopotamian moon god worshiped from 3500 BCE. He was the tutelary god of Ur. His wife was Ningal (rhyming with Tamil Thingal).

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Rig Veda Mystery -5
I have already posted Rig Veda Mystery 1 to 4.
We have already seen Vedic number puzzle of four horns, three feet, two heads and seven hands (RV 4-58).
Here is another Rig Vedic number riddle about 33 gods:

Three times a hundred gods and thrice a thousand, and three times ten and nine have worshiped Agni.
For him spread sacred grass, with oil bedewed him and established him as Priest and Sacrifice-(RV 3-9).
Griffith who translated the above hymn says,

In the Vaisvadeva Nivid or hymn of invitation to the Visvedevas the number of Gods is said to be 3 times 11, then 33, then 303, then 3003. By adding together 33+ 303+ 3003 the number 3339 is obtained

My opinion is that the Vedic seers must be mathematics geniuses to use maths in worshiping Gods. They were great intellectuals to use Number symbolism 4000 years ago. When we compare this with the Sumerian poems of Gilgamesh, they sound like barbaric and primitive poems of low level intellect!! I am not making this sweeping statement on the basis of this one verse. Those who study the Vedas and the last hymn of the Rig Veda (10-191) will be surprised to find how advanced they were. Vedic seers sing the World Anthem for the welfare of the human beings (I have already written about this International Anthem of the World).

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