DID SOCRATES KNOW VEDAS? HIS ‘SUN AND EYE’ REMARK SHOWS IT (Post.10,383)

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Post No. 10,383

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Sun is the most important God to Hindus. How do we know that?

We know that because millions of Brahmins look at sun in the morning , mid noon and evening and recite the most powerful Mantra in the Four Vedas known as Gayatri Mantra.

We know it because millions of RSS workers and Yoga practitioners do Surya Namaskar (12+1 times) every day in the morning.

We know it because Savitar, Aditya, Bhaga, Surya and Mitra are found in hundreds of hymns in the Vedas.

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Muir in his original Sanskrit Texts say,

“I regard it (EYE) as the most Sun like of all the organs of sensation” -Socrates

Plato in his Republic , VI .18, quoted Socrates.

This is not the only one instance which connects Socrates to the Vedas. Scores of books have been published showing Greek philosophers’ knowledge of the Vedas. From Pythagoras to Alexander, all show that they knew Hindu concepts.

I went further down the road and found out even Tamil poet Tiruvalluvar knew Socrates drinking poison. (Please see the links at the end of this article; my article written in 2011)

This Socrates matter is from the footnote to Atharva Veda Mantra Canto/Book 5, Hymn 9 (Sukta 151)

Hymns of the Atharva Veda, by Ralph T.H. Griffith, [1895], at sacred-texts.com

HYMN IX

A prayer to Heaven and Earth for protection and assistance

1All hail to Heaven!
2All hail to Earth!
3All hail to Air!
4All hail to Air!
5All hail to Heaven!
6All hail to Eartht!
7Mine eye is Sīirya and my breath is Vāta, Air is my soul and
  Prithivī my body.
  I verily who never have been conquered give up my life toe
  Heaven and Earth for keeping. 
8Exalt my life, my strength, my deed and action; increase my
   understanding and my vigour.
  Be ye my powerful keepers, watch and guard me, ye mistresses
   of life and life’s creators! Dwell ye within me, and forbear
   to harm me.

‘Eye is surya’ is found throughout the four Vedas starting from starting from the most famous Purushasukta of Rig Veda (RV 10-90). It is recited every day in temples and orthodox Brahmin houses.

Eye and Sun:- also AV. 5-24-9; RV.10-16-3

Scores of references are in the Vedas about sun light treatment for skin problems, killing seen and unseen germs, known and unknown germs etc.

Even the half baked 30 + Europeans who translated Vedas into European languages 150 years ago use the Vedic words ‘known and unknown’, ‘seen and unseen’ in their translations!

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TWO UNSOLVED MYSTERIES

I don’t know when the NASA and Russian scientists would solve the two puzzles in the Vedas.

One is about Valakhilyas travelling before sun. (Please see the link at the bottom; my article written in 2011)

NEW MYSTERY!

We don’t know what the Vedic Rishis meant when they sang three Ribhus live in the Solar Sphere. One day NASA would explain it and then we can boast again “IT IS AREADY SAID BY OUR VEDIC SEERS!!!”

What did they say about ‘THREE LIVING IN SUN’?

Ribhus are three sons of Sudhanvan. They are found in the Rig Veda , the oldest book in the world.

Ribhus are descendants of seer Angiras. Their names are Ribhu, Vibhvan/Vibhu and Vaaja; collectively called RIBHUS from the name of the eldest.

Through their assiduous performance of good works they obtained divinity , and became entitled to receive praise and adoration. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DWELL IN THE SOLAR SPHERE. There is an indistinct identification of them with the rays of the sun.

(We know that Hydrogen is converted into Helium every second and billions of hydrogen bombs explode every second in the Yellow type Star sun and we receive different types of rays, both harmful and helpful)

Helium is derived from Sanskrit word Suryan (H=S; L=R;M=N according to linguistic rules)

But I don’t know whether they meant the elements in sun.

Ribhus show us one more thing. Professor Wilson says, “They prove the admission, at an early date, of the doctrine, that men may become divinities”.

This is a typical ADVAITA concept found in Bhagavad Gita and Tamil Veda Tirukkural (50); Bhagavad Gita 4-10. Father Athanasius of Alexandria also said it. Egyptian port Alexandria had a very big Hindu colony. So Athanasius said God became man so that men could become Gods; he probably justified all the Avataras of Vishnu!

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FOUR CUP MYSTERY

The Ribhus are said to have made Four sacrificial Cups out of single chalice. (Sanskrit word Kalasa becomes Chalice in English ;C=K; also Vedic word Samiti=committee; Vedic word Sankha=Conch)

Tvashtar made only one cup. Saying that the Ribhus made four out of one may signify some innovations made by them.

Ribhus are also attributed the manufacturing of Indra’s chariot and ‘horses’. If they have stopped saying they made chariots, then we may say they were great design engineers or just skilful carpenters; but the word they made ‘Horses’ may mean they built some space shuttles for Indra’s Inter Galactic Space Trips. Even today we use the word ‘Horse power’ for powerful engines, though no horse is used!

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Valakhilyas: 60000 thumb-sized ascetics who protect Humanity

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31 Dec 2011 — Tamil and Vedas · Valakhilyas: 60,000 thumb-sized ascetics who protect Humanity.


60000 thumb-sized ascetics protect humanity (Tamil) – Tamil …

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Strange Link between Lord Shiva, Socrates and Thiruvalluvar

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12 Feb 2012 — Socrates, you were accused by the authorities in Athens that you spoiled the youths. … Did you learn Hindu Upanishads?

MAN BECOMES GOD- TAMIL VEDA AND RIG VEDA AGREE …

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—SUBHAM—

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KISHKINDHA IN NORTH INDIA- MYSTERY DEEPENS! (Post No.9620)

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Post No. 9620

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The news about the birth place of Anjaneya also known as Hanuman hit the headlines recently in newspapers. Tirupati Balaji temple authorities believe that the hill where the temple is located is the birth place of Hanuman. They gave the reasons for such belief and gave some evidence as well.

Hampi area in Karnataka was identified as the Kishkinda Kingdom where Hanuman served as a minister in the cabinet of Sugreeva, the King of the Apes or Vanaras. (Vanaras mean Vana+Nara= Forest man). So they may be a tribe who lived in the forest wearing monkey symbols or masks or tattoos.

The other claimants are in Maharashtra, Gujarat, Jharkand and Haryana. But all these people missed a reference in Patanjali ‘s Mahabhashya where Kishkinda is mentioned.

First, the very word KISHKINDA is strange word and not connected to any Sanskrit root. No Sanskrit root for this word is given in any book. The only related sound is Kish Kingdom in ancient Sumeria.  So my view is that the name Kishkinda was used by several people because of Rama’s story and it spread up to Sumeria 4000 years ago. Though Valmiki was the first one to put it in writing in simple and beautiful Sanskrit the story was known to a lot of people in India and beyond 2000 years ago. Sangam Tamil literature which is at least 2000 years old has two anecdotes that were not found in original Ramayanas. Prakrit book Gatha Sapta Sati also has an anecdote about Ramayana painting.

Here is what Patanjali says about Kishkinda:-

Describing two types of Shudras, the fourth caste in the Vedic society, he gives the example of Kishkinda- Gabdhikam , Saka- Yavanam and Saurya- Krauncham. They were Foreign Shudras. The native Shudras also did not practise Vedic rituals, but they lived within our boundaries. Foreign Shudras like Greek, Scythians  did not follow Vedic rituals. More over they lived outside the land of Cultured People i.e. Aryavarta. According to Manu, it is a region between the holy rivers in North India.

Talking about this M S Agrawala who wrote a doctoral thesis on Panini’s Ashtadhyayi, identified this Kishknda with Gorakhpur in Uttar Pradesh. He also says that the Pali literature called this place Khukhundo. If we agree with Agrawala , then we may have to consider this Kishkinda also as the birth place or the work place of Minister/Lord Hanuman.

To complicate the issue there is another mountain also with the name Anjanaagiri. Hanuman’s mother was Anjana which means as black as ink or collyrium/Kajal/kohl. Originally all the women’s Kajal/kohl came from Anjana Giri which is located in North West India. Modern maps show this as Sulaiman mountain. Panini called it Tri kakut (5-4-147) because of its Three Peaks. Atharva Veda also mentioned it. It was the source of salve (anjana). It supplied the salve to the whole of Punjab and Sind. This is antimony, a chemical element. So from Gorakhpur , Panini takes us to Sulaiman Range to complete the story of Anjaneya/Hanuman.

My Viewpoint

The word Kishkinda or Anjana giri is found in various parts of India. We may ignore Anjana= Black Giri=Mountain, because black mountains are in different parts of the world. But no one can ignore Kishkinda, which is a rare word and became popular because of Ramayana only. I think the popularity of Lord Rama and Hanuman made them to name different places as Kishkinda. Last but not the least, no one did a proper research about the geographical matter in the Vedic literature. After Vedic literature comes, Nirukta of Yaska and Ashtadhyayi of Panini. In 1953, the year of publication of V S Agrawala’s thesis on Ashtadhyayi (His book India as Known to Panini) we did not have google maps or this much information. Now that more resources are at our hand at the touch of a button in computer, proper research can be done.

Even Agrawala makes a passing remark about Anjanagiri (Sulaiman Range) , “probably same as Sauviranjana in Vedic Index (Part 1, page 329)”. We need to identify all the places to come to a proper conclusion.

Last week I wrote about Goddess Hingula Mystery which is mentioned in Panini’s book. Even in Orissa/Odisah we see this Goddess.

From Baluchistan in present Pakistan to South India we see Anjanaagiri, Goddess Hinghula, Kishkinda etc. We must establish the link between them.

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Please see ANJANAGIRI at the bottom left hand corner

News item from Tirupati

The Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD)  announced that Japali Theertham near Akasha Ganga waterfall in Tirumala Hills was the birthplace of Lord Hanuman. The announcement came on April 21, that is National Sanskrit University vice-chancellor V Muralidhara Sharma, who was one of the experts on the committee constituted by the TTD to establish Anjanadri Hill of the Seven Hills (Tirumala Hills) as the birthplace of Hanuman, announced at a programme organised in Tirumala that this was established after four months of intense research and collecting various pieces of evidence.

“It has been established based on puranic anthologies, literary evidence, epigraphic evidence and geographic details,” he said and added that Venkatachalam is also known as Anjanadri and 19 other names. Hanuman was born on Anjanadri in Treta Yuga, he said.

He said they have collected evidence from 12 Puranas and as for literary evidence, they were found in verses of Kamba Ramayanam and Annamacharya Sankeerthanas. He said that epigraphic evidence includes inscriptions found in Tirumala temple that in 12th and 13th-century Venkatachala Mahtyam was recited in Tirumala temple, processional deity of Sri Rangajanaya was brought to Anajandri for protection during the attack of Turks and later taken from there to Srirangam, inscriptions at Varadaraja Swamy temple in Kanchipuram, Sawal-e-Jawab, a record of practices engaged in Tirumala by North Arcot First Collector G Stratton in 1801–2 and later translated by VN Srinivas Rao in 1950.

As for geographical details, Sharma said in Skanda Puranam, when Anjana Devi asked Sage Matanga where Venkatachalam is, he clearly explained that it is north of Swarnamukhi river and 12 yojanas from Ahobilam.  

“Claims that Hampi is the birthplace of Hanuman are not true. Hampi is Kishkinda while Venakatchalam is Anjanadri. It is clearly evident from the conversation between Sugreeva and Hanuman when the former asks the latter to bring Vanaras from Anajandri. If it was in Kishkinda, he would not have asked that way,” he said. He also dismissed the claims of other places like in Bhoomla district of Jharkhand, Gujarat and Kaikal in Haryana.

Tamil Nadu governor Banwarilal Purohit, TTD Executive Officer Dr KS Jawahar Reddy, who constituted the committee to determine the birthplace of Lord Hanuman, additional EO Dharma Reddy and others were present.

Other Claims

However, there is doubt among some historians over Anjaneya’s birthplace. The five other places which claim Hanuman originated from include:

1. There is a hillock near Anjanadri at Hampi in Karnataka. But scholars of Kannada University at Hampi affirmed that there is no material evidence to prove that.

2. Anjan village, 21 km from Gumla district headquarter in Jharkhand.

3. Anjan mountain in Navsari region of Gujarat.

4. Kaithal region in Haryana

5. Anjaneri, 7 km from Triambakeswar in Nashik district of Maharashtra

Historians contend that the Hampi region was popularly known as Kishkinda in legends and Puranas. Hence, Anjaneya could have gone to Hampi from Tirumala, which was just 363 km away. They also scientifically say that Hampi was 1,240 km from Gumla in Jharkhand, 1,626 km from Kaithal of Haryana, 616 km from Maharashtra, and ruled them all out and suggested that migration to Hampi is feasible.

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Seventy Popes Murdered or Died in Mysterious Circumstances ! (Post No.7514)

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Post No.7514

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Historians who wrote Christian history say that at least 70 out of 266 Popes were murdered or died in mysterious or suspicious circumstances. Wikipedia has given a list of at least 40 such Popes.

Another interesting thing about past popes is majority of them were from Italy.

Current Pope Francis is the first person to come from the Americas. He is an Argentinian.

One more interesting thing about the Popes is the average length of their Popehood. Historians give 20 to 25 years per king. Hindu history shows that Gurus or religious teachers lead their group for more years. The average may be 30 to 50 years per Guru. But surprisingly we have 265 Popes for a period of 2000 years. That is an average of less than 8 years per Pope. This confirms the conspiracy theories, murders and violence surrounding Popes.

History of Bible is more interesting. In the beginning Popes ruled that no one should possess a Bible and they should handle it only inside the Churches. Later, Bibles were sold with Pope’s permission to selected people. Not everyone can hold it. Later, there was big opposition for PRINTING Bible when Gutenberg invented printing machine. All these began with King Constantine burning all Bibles except one version in the fourth century. The reason was various Bibles had various stories which were contradictory like Hindu Puranas. Despite this, there are contradictory versions in Dead Sea scrolls and the Greek Bible in the British Library. There is tremendous pressure from vested interests not to publish those contradictions. There are 2000 differences or mistakes in the current Bible compared to Greek Version. In the beginning Bible was in Greek and Hebrew languages only. Even the later English Bible is constantly updated or altered with new English words or sentences till this day.

Old Tamil Bible has more Sanskrit words than Tamil words, they say.

History of Christian denominations is more interesting and there are over 200 Christian sects. Some even oppose celebrating Christmas. Syrian Orthodox, Greek Russian and Protestant movements are well known. The schism started in 11th century.

One of the Popes was jailed in France for eight years. No one came for his support or help.

Inquisition killed thousands of people. Women who opposed Christianity were burnt alive as witches including the most famous Saint Joan of Arc. A lot of Gypsies of Indian origin were also killed in such bonfires. It became part of untold and unsung stories.

History shows that Spanish and Portuguese did more violence ‘in the name of Christ’ than any other Christian sect. They wiped out the ancient South and Central American civilisations. Though Europeans from other countries went to the Americas and Australia, Pacific Islands ,South Africa and India and massacred natives, aborigines and others, it was mainly for political reasons. They wanted to occupy those lands or plunder gold and diamond.

India became a world wonder in the eyes of Christians and Muslims. Wherever they went they changed the entire country or region to their side except India. It remains a predominantly Hindu land till this day.

I am attaching a paper cutting from Daily Mail dated 1-12-2001 and Wikipedia Popes list who died in violence.

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List of popes who died violently           

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A collection of popes who have had violent deaths through the centuries. The circumstances have ranged from martyrdom (Pope Stephen I)[1] to war (Lucius II),[2] to a beating by a jealous husband (Pope John XII). A number of other popes have died under circumstances that some believe to be murder, but for which definitive evidence has not been found.

Martyr popes[edit]

This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.

In tradition, the first pope, Saint Peter, was crucified upside-down.

Murdered popes[edit]

Dubious[edit]

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POPES AND THEIR NATIONALITIES

—SUBHAM–

MYSTERY AND MIRACLE OF SOMA PLANT, SOMA RASA! (Post No.3959)

Anjaneya appears in Sacrificial Fire

 

Research Article Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 31 May 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 18-13

 

Post No. 3959

 

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In my two articles about Soma rasa (please see the links below) I have given the following points:

Foreigners account about the identification of Soma plant is wrong. Had they really identified it, they would have got the patent right and exported millions of bottles of Soma rasa (Soma juice) and made billions of dollars. Even today Muslims of Afghanistan cultivate opium and send them to different parts of the world and make loads of money.

 

Now I have got more interesting details from Zend Avesta, Zoroastrians Veda, and the ninth Mandala of Rig Veda. Before giving the details let me place some more arguments:

1.We knew for sure that the Vedic Soma Yaga was done for thousands of years. Is there any culture or race in the world which has a narcotic drug like this for such a long time and survived in good health?

2.If it is really a narcotic drug, the community or the race would have had its natural death.

3.Narcotic drugs lead to depression, violence etc. Has any one used drugs and avoided such after effects? In London, every week one youth is shot dead in drug related violence. In the Vedic literature, we have never seen any violence after drinking Soma rasa against one another.

  1. Is there any community in the world who sang about a plant and its juice and preserved the hymns for such a long time?

5.If Aryans came from outside why don’t we see Swayamvara, Mahabharata type of warfare, Asvamedha/Raja suya yajnas, caste systems etc. outside India?

 

The answer is simple. Soma rasa is not a narcotic drug. It is a rare plant which gave tremendous energy and boosted one’s health and increased one’s life span. It is in Zend Avesta. Vedic Hindus were the sons of the soil. They did not come from outside. When they went out of India they spread their culture.

 

Read the interesting points given below:-

In the Haoma (Soma) Yasht (hymn), Zarathustra(Zoroaster)  seeing the Haoma (Soma) plant addresses it in these words:

“O man! who art thou? In this physical world, I find you to be best, beautiful and of eternal life” and Haoma answers,

“I am who he wards off disease, squeeze me for drinking and chant my praises”.

In another place it is mentioned those who thus squeezed it and drank the squeezed liquid and chanted its praises are blessed with the best of health and progeny”

 

The above Zend Avesta verse gives us the following points

1.Soma gives long life 2.Soma gives health 3. Soma helps to get good children and 4. Soma wars off diseases.

 

I have already given what the Tamil inscription said about it: It purified the mind. In short it gave physical, mental and spiritual benefits.

Now more interesting comes from the three Vedas:

Ninth  Mandala of the Rig Veda contains all the hymns on Pavamana Soma. Nowhere in the world we see Mantras on narcotic drug in a religious book; so it is not a narcotic drug. If it is a drug like this the seers would have condemned it. Moreover, whether they condemn or not, the race would have exterminated itself by this time. But we see a continuous religion, Santana /Eternal religion for over 5000 years without any violence. So it is not a halucinative drug.

 

The Vedic seers praised the Soma as ‘The King’, ‘the guest’ etc.

Krishna seen in Yaga Fire

 

1000 year Sacrifice

Foreigners were baffled and got confused when they saw 1000 yearlong Soma sacrifice. They couldn’t understand it. Normally it lasted for 12 years but they talked about 1000 year Yajna as well. Where in the world one drinks drug or alcohol for 12 years and survive? So it was not an intoxicating drug, but a miraculous and a rare herb brought by an “Eagle”. When we read that it was available in Iran (Zoroaster) and in Gangetic and Indus valley (Rig Veda and Yajur Veda) we are amazed at the influence of a single plant on such a vast geographical area. Taittiriya Samhita of Yajur Veda deals with Soma Yaga in Cantos 6 and 8.

 

Moreover, it is not a drug is proved from the rituals that were practised. Following is the ritual:

The first stage is buying the Soma plant with a  calf which was later snatched  away later from the seller. Because he same sellers bring them back the Soma we knew for sure it was only a ritual and they got good money.

 

If I am cheated by a business man I would not go back to him and would warn other colleagues as well. Foreigners could not explain why Soma was “brought by an eagle”. They were struggling hard and as usual wrote all the rubbish.

 

The second stage is it is placed on a cart and taken in procession like a honoured guest. Because they considered it a divine one.

 

The next stage is the pressing of Soma plant and getting the juice.

 

In the last stage they gave it to different Gods in cups that were named differently.

Any person who thinks logically knew that it was not a narcotic drug. If it is they would not name different cups and wait patiently. Riots would break out to grab the drug. Moreover, the same kick they could get from umpteen sources such as alcohol etc.

 

If it is a drug, no idiot would pour it into sacrificial fire and “waste it” for thousands of years. We knew that Soma Yajnas were conducted until very recently but with alternate plants.

If it is a hallucinate substance, 12 year long sacrifices can be 12 year long orgy of drug addicts. So all the foreign accounts are half baked write ups or deliberate propaganda against Vedic religion.

 

The soma plant increases fertility (YV 6-5-8-5) according to Yajur Veda.

Radha and Krishna appears in Vedic Fire Sacrifice

 

In the Atharva Veda

The largest number of Atharvana Vedic hymns belong to the category of material well- being which include prayers for long life (100 years), property, architecture, astronomy ,well-being of trees, creatures, animals , for timely rain, avoiding unforeseen injuries etc. This shows their positive attitude.

 

Muujavat, the mythical home of the Soma plant in the Rig Veda, is shown as a distant place in the Atharva Veda; so by the time of Athrva veda, Soma was not easily available, almost extinct.

With the use of Soma plant we hear only the positive effects. It is unfortunate that the Hindus lost it very long ago.

 

Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/2013/05/05/confusion-about-vedic-soma-plant/

5 May 2013 – Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant Soma was the famous plant used by the Vedic priests to make juice for the fire sacrifice. The whole of Ninth …

 

Madurai Temple Tunnel and Soma Plant of Vedas … – Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/…/madurai-temple-tunnel-and-soma-pla…

23 Apr 2017 – Madurai Temple Tunnel and Soma Plant of Vedas (Post No. 3844) … Soma Plant. I read your “Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant” article.

 

–Subham–

MYSTERIOUS FLOATING CITY IN THE SKY; UFO CRASH LANDING IN LONDON!

CHINA

Compiled by London swaminathan

Post No.2262

Date: 21 October 2015

Time uploaded in London: 16-42

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News items about two mysteries occupied a good space in Western newspapers this morning. I have compiled the details from several sources:–

1).A FLOATING CITY APPEARED IN THE SKY IN CHINA!

2).A MYSTERIOUS VEHICLE CRASH LANDED IN LONDON STREET!

Both the incidents baffled lot of people including the scientists. They can only guess, but were not sure about it.

Chinese Miracle

Thousands of residents of cities in southern China reported seeing a huge city hovering ominously in the sky. The phenomenon, caught on video, sparked a spate of conspiracy theories. However, meteorologists believe the apparition was a Fata Morgana: an optical illusion that distorts distant objects, caused by the warming of the atmosphere above land or oceans.

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An alien city? A parallel universe? A message from ghosts?

Residents in Jiangxi and Foshan, two southern Chinese cities, reported seeing a huge city—filled with shadowy skyscrapers—hovering ominously in the sky clear above them. The phenomenon, recorded by Chinese media in the video  has sparked a spate of conspiracy theories.

Many theories center around “Project Blue Beam,” a suspected plot by the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to establish a new world order by either simulating an alien invasion of Earth or a projecting a second coming of Christ. Others say China was trying to gauge the public’s reaction to its own “top secret holographic technology.”

 

But what was it, really?

Meteorologists say the floating city was likely a Fata Morgana: A type of optical illusion that distorts distant objects, caused by the warming of the atmosphere above land or oceans. Atmospheric scientist Kenneth Bowman of Texas A&M University explained the phenomenon in detail to the Christian Science Monitor.

A vertical gradient of temperatures from cool land to hot air can bend light at an angle, which tricks viewers into seeing objects where they don’t belong. In this case, distant skyscrapers appeared to be hovering in the sky, when in fact they were sitting calmly on the far horizon.

Fata Morganas, named after the enchantress from the tales of King Arthur, are also believed to be behind the legend of the Flying Dutchman ghost ship.

Still, that explanation hasn’t dampened conspiracy fever. One proponent of the NASA “blue beam” theory has already garnered over 4 million views on YouTube.

Everyone in Central Guangdong, China were left baffled after a mysterious footage has gone viral online!

The footage shows that an apparition of a mysterious floating city suddenly appeared in the skies of China.

FLOATING

What’s even more surprising is the fact that the apparition even appeared with well-constructed buildings. After seeing the footage, people claim that they were really curious about what it really is.

However, experts claim that the apparition may have just been caused by a huge hologram that they built to see how the netizens will be reacting after seeing it!

 

aliencraft

U F O Crash Landing in London

(UFO= Unidentified Flying Object= Flying saucer)

A mystery object that appeared to have crashed into the middle of a road in West London, has left police baffled. Though this news appeared in London newspapers two days ago, still no explanation was coming forth!

Officers were called by a member of the public complaining about an unknown item on fire near the median strip of a road in Kingston.

Last night at around midnight a concerned member of the public called us on 999 stating that there was an unknown item on fire in the middle of the road.

Officers from Emergency Response Team A were dispatched along with the London Fire Brigade. When they arrived on scene they couldn’t believe their eyes!

The officers that arrived on scene described the item as looking like a crash landed UFO!

Other observers suggested that the mystery object might well be a pizza oven – although police remain confused as to who put the unidentified flaming object there, and why.

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Source: London Newspapers

Hindu Temple Mystery!

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Thirissur Temple in Kerala

Research article by London swaminathan

Post No.2230

Date: 9  October 2015

Time uploaded in London: 21-43

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If you read any modern book on Hindu Temple architecture they broadly classify the temples into three categories: Nagara, Dravida and Vesara. But these are relatively modern terms. It is neither found in Varahamihira’s classification of temples or Tamil saint Appar’s classification of temples. Both of them lived before seventh century CE. Temples did not exist during Vedic times. But they existed during Epic times. We have references to Temple worship in Ramayana and Bhagavata. They may not be the gigantic temples like the temples we see today. They may be just places of worship inside a palace or under a banyan tree.

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Dwajasthamba with Tortoise

Nagara type of North Indian temples have curvilinear towers. They have square base. Dravida type of South India have towers like pyramids. They have octagonal base. Vesara type of temples combined both these styles. They have circular base. Earlier temples were built with perishable materials such as wood, brick, clay and mortar. Then Guptas built cave temples probably following the Buddhist caves. The gigantic temples we see today came into existence around eighth century CE. In the South, Pandyas and Pallavas made cave temples from sixth century CE at Kazukumalai, Tirupparankundram, Tirumeyyam,Pillayarpatti, Kundrakkudi Kanchi and Mamallapuram. Athiyaman also made such temples in Namakkal.

Varahamihira enumerates twenty types of temples!

(Read my article Twenty Types of Temples in Ancient India- posted on 30th March 2015. In another article I have listed all the temples from the Tamil epic Silappadikaram). Later Appar mentioned seven types of temples:-

Appar alias Tirunavukkarasu, one of the Four Great  Saivite Tamil saints sings about

“If the seventy eight great temples of the Lord

Whose matted crest is adorned with the great flood

KARAKKOYIL, GNAAZHARKKOYIL  girt with well protected

Groves, the hill like KOKUDIKKOYIL of  Karuppariyal

ILANGKOYIL where with the chanting of the Rig Veda

The Brahmins hail and adore the lord MANIKKOYIL

AALAKKOYIL  and every TIRUKKOYIL where Siva abides

Are circumambulated and hailed in humble

Adoration, evil Karma will get annulled “

(Sixth Tirumurai, Adaivu Tiru Thandakam of Appar)

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He and his junior contemporary Sambandar visited nearly 300 temples in Tamil speaking areas of South India in the seventh century CE. But we could not even figure out the temples mentioned in Appar’s Thevaram hymn. My research shows that the Kerala Type of temples were the oldest type. We can see such temples from Kerala to North East India. It is also seen in Nepal. Such type of temples don’t fall under the Nagara, Vesara, Dravida Types. The structure of the temples are designed to withstand the monsoon climate. The rain water drains easily in the step like tiled sheds. It helps the teak wood inside to last for longer. Periodically they wold have changed the roof and wood. No mention of these temples in the modern temple architecture books show that they were not taken into account in the classification of temples.

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Nepalese Temple

The mystery lies not only in its structure but also its occurrence from southernmost tip of the land to the Himalayan country of Nepal. We see them even beyond north east India, in Burma, Thailand and other South East Asian countries. After Cambodian and Javan kings modelled their temples on the stone temples of India, this structure continued its existence only in the royal palaces of those countries. Before eighth century they also must have had temples like Kerala. Two things remain a mystery until today:

  1. How come the temples from Kerala to Nepal were built in the same style?
  2. Why there was no mention of this type in Temple architecture books? I mean they were not listed under the three main categories.

3.Third Mystery

There is another mystery surrounding the Dwajasthama, the Flag Staff. In Kerala, most of the temples have erected the Dwajasthamba on Tortoise/Turtle. There is no explanation to show why Kerala temples only followed this type of Flag staff. Tortoise is associated with various things such as Kurma Avatara, Kurma Mudra, Kurma Asana etc in Hindu literature. But we have no explanation to show why they differed from other temples in the erection of Dwajasthamaba. We have Mandapas (Halls) erected on Turtle/ Tortoise in Tamil Nadu, but no Dwajasthamba.

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Temple in Nepal

After studying these things and other ancient customs in Kerala temples, I concluded that they were the oldest models available today. More research is required to put them in the correct place in the development of Hindu Temple architecture. Till we do it there will be some gaps in the study of temple architecture.

–Subham–