All posts tagged Soma plant

UNKNOWN ANGELS AND DEMONS IN RIG VEDA-1 (Post No.10,201)

Research article WRITTEN BY LONDON SWAMINATHAN

Post No. 10,201

Date uploaded in London – 12 OCTOBER  2021         

Contact – swami_48@yahoo.com

Pictures are taken from various sources for spreading knowledge.

this is a non- commercial blog. Thanks for your great pictures.

tamilandvedas.com, swamiindology.blogspot.com

Rig Veda, the oldest book, and the oldest anthology in the world, contains many riddles. Sometimes the seers (Rishis) play with numbers, sometimes they play with words and sometimes with names. Even about the name, they talk about Secret Names of Gods. No one knows what they mean. Even the half baked, non- believers of Western countries could not say anything about them.

In the Yajur Veda the seers talk about 200 animals, plants, objects to be sacrificed in the Horse Sacrifice called Asvamedha. No one could identify several words in the list.  They don’t even know whether they mean a bird or insects or animals or plants!

Let us stick to Rig Veda and see how many unknown names crop up:

SEVEN RED SISTERS -10-5-5

Seven and Three are found in Indus Valley seals . Among the Number Seals they are at the top. For Hindus everything Sacred is 7 or 3. Seven rivers, cities, hills, continents etc are Sacred for them. Here Sayana rightly says they are the seven tongues of Fire/ Agni. They are given names Kaali, Karaali etc.

Seven is associated with rain bow colours (VIBGYOR) and Hindus called them Seven Horses of the Chariot of Sun God.

Mr Dave describes Seven Sisters as a kind of birds in Eastern Part of the country. Even Sayana interprets Seven differently as 7 meters in prosody, Saptaswara in  Music. That is why Hindus said Veda is the root of the world :-

MANU’S QUOTE ON VEDAS

वेदोऽखिलो धर्ममूलं स्मृतिशीले च तद्विदाम् ।

आचारश्चैव साधूनामात्मनस्तुष्टिरेव च ॥ Manu 2-6

 “The whole Veda is the (first) root of the righteousness/ dharma/ religion and sacred law, next the tradition and the virtuous conduct of those who know the Veda further, also the customs of holy men, and finally self-satisfaction”- MANU 2-6

पितृदेवमनुष्याणां वेदश्चक्षुः सनातनम् ।

अशक्यं चाप्रमेयं च वेदशास्त्रमिति स्थितिः ॥ Manu12-94॥

 “The Veda is the eternal eye of the ancestors, gods and humans; the teachings of the Vedas are impossible to master and impossible to measure; this is an established fact”- Manu 12-94

xxx

GANDHARVI : Rig Veda 10-11-2

Said to be the daughter of Surabhi, one of the daughters of Daksa and the Mother of the Race of Horses ( we are reminded of Jonathan Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels- Houyhnhnms are a fictional race of intelligent horses described in the last part of Jonathan Swift’s satirical 1726 novel Gulliver’s Travels. The name is pronounced either or. Swift apparently intended all words of the Houyhnhnm language to echo the neighing of horses)

(Seeds of all Hindu Mythologies are in the Rig Veda; one must  learn to read between the lines)

xxx

KAVYAS , MATALI 10-14-3

Kavyas – a class of manes, the spirits of a pious race of ancient times. No one knows who they are. Funeral hymns in the tenth Mandala are full of puzzles and riddles.

Matali is the charioteer of Indra; but in the Vanaparva of Mahabharata he is the pilot of Inter Galactic Space Shuttle who takes Indra to another galaxy and brings him back to earth. Even theory of Time Dilation is explained there. Stars are interpreted as departed pious people.

xxx

GHOSTS 10-14-9

According to Sayana, this stanza is addressed to the Pisacas/ ghosts and other evil spirits that haunts the place of cremation.

Sangam Tamil book Purananuru also talks about the spooky, eerie and unearthly things in the crematorium.

Next mantra talks about world’s first recorded dog Sarama’s two off springs, two dogs with four eyes. Sarama is Indra’s hound. Greeks borrowed this word from us and called Hermes (H=S in Greek; Sindhu becomes Hindu)

xxxx

USANAN -10-22-6

Usanaa or Usanas Kavya is frequently mentioned in the Veda as a favoured friend and companion of Indra.

(Indra is a title; not a single person; it means leader)

In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna identifies himself with Usana among the Kavis/poets. Even during Rig Vedic days he became legendary. Probably the world’s first poet. He is known as Kavi. From him came Kavya; the oldest Tamil poet Tol Kappiyan also belongs to this clan. He is called Tol- Kavya. V=P/B are interchangeable. He is not the only one from this clan- Kavya Gotra; another Kaappiyaatru Kaappiyanaar of Sangam book Pathitru Pathu is also famous. They are all from Kerala, ancient Taml Chera Country.

xxx

SUSA, SUSI – 10-26-6

Ludwig says name of a man and a woman. According to Sayana and Wilson it is ‘he goat’ and ‘she goat’. But why Susa and Susi for goats? No explanation. This mantra also says about woollen garments

Vedic god Pusan has a goat drawn Chariot (it is in mantra 8). In later Puranas, the Vahana of Agni is also goat.

xxx

PANCHADASA SOMA- 10-27-2

Here Sayana gives some interesting details about Soma herb. Its leaves grow for 15 days in the bright half of month and dies in the next fifteen days in the dark half of a month. So, Soma is punned with Soma/moon because of this quality. Now we know the reason Soma herb is named after Soma, the moon because of this. Hindus always link Moon and the growth of plants, unlike others. Scientists couldn’t agree with us.

xxx

THE PURPLE TINTED EAGLE & SOMA OSHADI-10-30-2 AND 10-30-5

For the purple tinted eagle, commentators say Soma, The Moon (My view is that Soma herb is always connected with the falcon or eagle in many verses. So, it is not moon).

And in the fifth mantra Soma Osadhi is interpreted as Dharba or Kusa grass. In short Soma is interpreted according to their whims and fancies!

XXX

DOUBLE CURRENTS -TWO DHARAS – 10-30-10

Probably it meant two kinds of waters called Ekadhanaa and Vasativari.

( I don’t know what they mean; probably terms used in the Yaga??)

xxx

KURU SRAVANAN – 10-32-9

No one knows whether it is the name of a king or anyone that hears the hymn. Sayana interprets ‘the one who hear the praises’ (in the hymn); but others say it is the name of a King!!

xxx

DHUHISASU- 10-33-1

There is a scholarly discussion  on the word. Ludwig suspects it to be the name of a prince defeated by the king KURURSRAVANA. Literally the word means ‘the malevolent’.Ghost??

xxx

WOLF AND QUAIL- 10-39-13

Commentators say the quail is probably ‘Dawn’ delivered from the jaws of the wolf ‘Night’ by the TWIN LIGHT GODS. This is Yaska’s interpretation according to Sayana. Also in 1-112-8. Everyone, thus, agrees, that a lot of imagery, symbolism and allegory are in the Vedas. Wolf is not an animal here; quail is not a bird here!!!

xxx

VAIKUNDAN, SAPTAHU.10-47-6

Vaikunthaa was a female demon. Her son was Vaikuntha. That ‘Asuri’ woman becomes Indra’s second mother!

Saptagu means drawn by Seven Oxen!!

xxx

PARNAYAN, KARNJA – TREE DEMONS 10-48-8

Commentators say apparently ‘Tree Demons’. Sangam Tamils said Anangus/ Nymphs live in lakes, ponds, rivers and on Trees. Later Hindu Tamil epics said Brahmarakshas live in natural spots.

In 1-53-8 also we come across them along with one more Asura Vangrda

CHPAPANAMI- FRIEND OF INDRA- 10-48-8,9

xxx

KAVI, 10-49-3 father of Indra’s friend Usana

xxx

MRUGAYA, 10-49-5 A demon of the air.

Also occurring in 4-16-13 and 8-3-19

In Fourth Mandala, Mrgaya and Pipru are described as demons of the Air. And in the next line Indra is said to have struck down 50,000 black demons. Immediately the Anti Hindu Max Muller gang added it must be native aborigines!!! In all the world conflicts, we see enemies! But in Vedas only, all enemies are given Racial attributes!!! In 2000 year old Tamil literature Tamils killed only Tamils and they are all described as fiery enemies!!!

xxx

SRUTHARVARNAN -KING 10-49-5; may be a king.

PADGRIBI- DEMON  or some savage or enemy 10-49

xxx

GUNGUS – 10-48 WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT KNOWN.

VAGINAN – 10-56-2 it meant strong, strong steed; apparently the name of the deceased.

ASUNITI – 10-59- 5 it is assumed it is the personification of a deity presiding over the funeral

USEENARANI- 10-59-10- It must mean wife of Usinara. The meaning is not clear. With the same name some people in Madhya Pradesh are found.

ASAMAATI- 10-60-2 Sayana says it is the name of a king; others don’t agree and they say it meant Unequalled.

BAJERATHA VAMSAM- 10-60-2 Griffith writes it is un certain whether the name of a prince or a country!

xxx

BOAR- 10-67-7 Sayana says bearers of excellent water!

SEVEN SISTERS – 10-71-3 commentators say tone of seven singers. One ornithologist says it meant a kind of birds. Even today they are known as seven sisters in Bengal.

ARJIKIYA, SUSOMA, VIBHASA – 10-75-5 commentators couldn’t even recognise these rivers.

SILAMAVATI and URNAVATI ARE RIVERS – 10-75-8 but no one knows where they are. Sayana says they are Sindhu’s other names.

xxx

10-85 is the most famous Wedding Mantras, used even today by the Brahmin priests:-

RAIBHI 10-85-6

This and the following two are feminine names; they may be secular songs; only a guess

NAARAASAAMSI

GAATHA

xxx

KOSAM 10-85-7 some say bridal outfit; others say chariot part; only a guess

KRTHYA 10-85-28 it may be the name of a deity or an evil spirit or demon

xxxx

ASASANAM, VISASANAM, ADHIVIKARTANAM 10-85-35

Some interpret it as parts of wedding dress; others as cutting, chopping meat. Hindus never serve non vegetarian food in weddings.

Even in wedding mantras (10-85) foreign translators could not get the meaning. They add ‘may be, probably’ etc. They say the wedding mantras are latest part of Vedas and yet they couldn’t get the meaning!

UPTO HYMN 85 IS COVERED IN TENTH MANDALA.

–SUBHAM–

tags- Soma plant, Demons, Asuras, Ghosts, Evil Spirits, in Rig Veda

Leave a comment
by Tamil and Vedas on October 12, 2021  •  Permalink
Posted in Uncategorized
Tagged , , , , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on October 12, 2021

https://tamilandvedas.com/2021/10/12/unknown-angels-and-demons-in-rig-veda-1-post-no-10201/

MYSTERIOUS MEDICINAL PROPERTIES OF THE SOMA PLANT IN RIG VEDA (Post No.7069)

WRITTEN by London swaminathan

swami_48@yahoo.com

Date: 7 OCTOBER 2019
British Summer Time uploaded in London – 18-19
Post No. 7069

Pictures are taken from various sources; beware of copyright rules; don’t use them without permission; this is a non- commercial, educational blog; posted in swamiindology.blogspot.com and tamilandvedas.com simultaneously. Average hits per day for both the blogs 12,000.

Leave a comment
by Tamil and Vedas on October 7, 2019  •  Permalink
Posted in ரிக் வேத உவமை, Medicine, Miracles, Science & Religion
Tagged , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on October 7, 2019

https://tamilandvedas.com/2019/10/07/mysterious-medicinal-properties-of-the-soma-plant-in-rig-veda-post-no-7069/

MYSTERY AND MIRACLE OF SOMA PLANT, SOMA RASA! (Post No.3959)

Anjaneya appears in Sacrificial Fire

 

Research Article Written by London Swaminathan

 

Date: 31 May 2017

 

Time uploaded in London- 18-13

 

Post No. 3959

 

Pictures are taken from various sources such as Face book, Wikipedia and newspapers; thanks.

 

contact: swami_48@yahoo.com

 

 

In my two articles about Soma rasa (please see the links below) I have given the following points:

Foreigners account about the identification of Soma plant is wrong. Had they really identified it, they would have got the patent right and exported millions of bottles of Soma rasa (Soma juice) and made billions of dollars. Even today Muslims of Afghanistan cultivate opium and send them to different parts of the world and make loads of money.

 

Now I have got more interesting details from Zend Avesta, Zoroastrians Veda, and the ninth Mandala of Rig Veda. Before giving the details let me place some more arguments:

1.We knew for sure that the Vedic Soma Yaga was done for thousands of years. Is there any culture or race in the world which has a narcotic drug like this for such a long time and survived in good health?

2.If it is really a narcotic drug, the community or the race would have had its natural death.

3.Narcotic drugs lead to depression, violence etc. Has any one used drugs and avoided such after effects? In London, every week one youth is shot dead in drug related violence. In the Vedic literature, we have never seen any violence after drinking Soma rasa against one another.

  1. Is there any community in the world who sang about a plant and its juice and preserved the hymns for such a long time?

5.If Aryans came from outside why don’t we see Swayamvara, Mahabharata type of warfare, Asvamedha/Raja suya yajnas, caste systems etc. outside India?

 

The answer is simple. Soma rasa is not a narcotic drug. It is a rare plant which gave tremendous energy and boosted one’s health and increased one’s life span. It is in Zend Avesta. Vedic Hindus were the sons of the soil. They did not come from outside. When they went out of India they spread their culture.

 

Read the interesting points given below:-

In the Haoma (Soma) Yasht (hymn), Zarathustra(Zoroaster)  seeing the Haoma (Soma) plant addresses it in these words:

“O man! who art thou? In this physical world, I find you to be best, beautiful and of eternal life” and Haoma answers,

“I am who he wards off disease, squeeze me for drinking and chant my praises”.

In another place it is mentioned those who thus squeezed it and drank the squeezed liquid and chanted its praises are blessed with the best of health and progeny”

 

The above Zend Avesta verse gives us the following points

1.Soma gives long life 2.Soma gives health 3. Soma helps to get good children and 4. Soma wars off diseases.

 

I have already given what the Tamil inscription said about it: It purified the mind. In short it gave physical, mental and spiritual benefits.

Now more interesting comes from the three Vedas:

Ninth  Mandala of the Rig Veda contains all the hymns on Pavamana Soma. Nowhere in the world we see Mantras on narcotic drug in a religious book; so it is not a narcotic drug. If it is a drug like this the seers would have condemned it. Moreover, whether they condemn or not, the race would have exterminated itself by this time. But we see a continuous religion, Santana /Eternal religion for over 5000 years without any violence. So it is not a halucinative drug.

 

The Vedic seers praised the Soma as ‘The King’, ‘the guest’ etc.

Krishna seen in Yaga Fire

 

1000 year Sacrifice

Foreigners were baffled and got confused when they saw 1000 yearlong Soma sacrifice. They couldn’t understand it. Normally it lasted for 12 years but they talked about 1000 year Yajna as well. Where in the world one drinks drug or alcohol for 12 years and survive? So it was not an intoxicating drug, but a miraculous and a rare herb brought by an “Eagle”. When we read that it was available in Iran (Zoroaster) and in Gangetic and Indus valley (Rig Veda and Yajur Veda) we are amazed at the influence of a single plant on such a vast geographical area. Taittiriya Samhita of Yajur Veda deals with Soma Yaga in Cantos 6 and 8.

 

Moreover, it is not a drug is proved from the rituals that were practised. Following is the ritual:

The first stage is buying the Soma plant with a  calf which was later snatched  away later from the seller. Because he same sellers bring them back the Soma we knew for sure it was only a ritual and they got good money.

 

If I am cheated by a business man I would not go back to him and would warn other colleagues as well. Foreigners could not explain why Soma was “brought by an eagle”. They were struggling hard and as usual wrote all the rubbish.

 

The second stage is it is placed on a cart and taken in procession like a honoured guest. Because they considered it a divine one.

 

The next stage is the pressing of Soma plant and getting the juice.

 

In the last stage they gave it to different Gods in cups that were named differently.

Any person who thinks logically knew that it was not a narcotic drug. If it is they would not name different cups and wait patiently. Riots would break out to grab the drug. Moreover, the same kick they could get from umpteen sources such as alcohol etc.

 

If it is a drug, no idiot would pour it into sacrificial fire and “waste it” for thousands of years. We knew that Soma Yajnas were conducted until very recently but with alternate plants.

If it is a hallucinate substance, 12 year long sacrifices can be 12 year long orgy of drug addicts. So all the foreign accounts are half baked write ups or deliberate propaganda against Vedic religion.

 

The soma plant increases fertility (YV 6-5-8-5) according to Yajur Veda.

Radha and Krishna appears in Vedic Fire Sacrifice

 

In the Atharva Veda

The largest number of Atharvana Vedic hymns belong to the category of material well- being which include prayers for long life (100 years), property, architecture, astronomy ,well-being of trees, creatures, animals , for timely rain, avoiding unforeseen injuries etc. This shows their positive attitude.

 

Muujavat, the mythical home of the Soma plant in the Rig Veda, is shown as a distant place in the Atharva Veda; so by the time of Athrva veda, Soma was not easily available, almost extinct.

With the use of Soma plant we hear only the positive effects. It is unfortunate that the Hindus lost it very long ago.

 

Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant | Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/2013/05/05/confusion-about-vedic-soma-plant/

5 May 2013 – Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant Soma was the famous plant used by the Vedic priests to make juice for the fire sacrifice. The whole of Ninth …

 

Madurai Temple Tunnel and Soma Plant of Vedas … – Tamil and Vedas

https://tamilandvedas.com/…/madurai-temple-tunnel-and-soma-pla…

23 Apr 2017 – Madurai Temple Tunnel and Soma Plant of Vedas (Post No. 3844) … Soma Plant. I read your “Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant” article.

 

–Subham–

2 Comments
by Tamil and Vedas on May 31, 2017  •  Permalink
Posted in Health, Miracles, Religion
Tagged , , , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on May 31, 2017

https://tamilandvedas.com/2017/05/31/mystery-and-miracle-of-soma-plant-soma-rasa-post-no-3959/

Madurai Temple Tunnel and Soma Plant of Vedas (Post No. 3844)

Written by London swaminathan

Date: 23 APRIL 2017

Time uploaded in London:- 19-35

Post No. 3844

Pictures are taken from various sources; thanks.

contact; swami_48@yahoo.com

 

 

More Q and A

 

Hi,
Sir myself xyz from Madurai. I m a B.E Graduate,

I m very MUCH interested in meenatchi amman temple .

I have a question; are there any hidden secret tunnels in meenatchi amman temple?

MY ANSWER:

Yes. There is one TUNNEL connecting the temple and the Tirumalai Nayak Palace. Now they have blocked the entrance. In my childhood days they used to show it. Even now with the modern equipment we can easily find it. We need the temple authority’s permission to do it.

(I want to do carbon dating on the dried up Kadamba tree inside the temple as well. We need temple authority’s permission; this will help us to date the temple complex.)

 

xxx

Soma Plant

 

I read your “Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant” article.

 

So, do u have any conclusion that which is soma and where we will get it ????

 

 

Dear G……….. (replied on 19th April 2017)

 

IF it is available today, they would have marketed it today like thousands of alcoholic drinks.

 

IF the foreigners accounts are true, they would have sold 1000 s of bottles of those mushrooms and plants.

 

No one knows what it is. It is EXTINCT.

 

Even in the days of Vedas, it was very difficult to get it (That is what the Vedas say)

 

In the modern days, they used alternative plants instead of Soma plant in the Yanjnas (Fire Sacrifices).

 

In short, no one has identified it yet, because it is not there or somewhere in the Himalayas it is available, but no one knows where it is.

 (Foreign frauds wrote whatever that will get them publicity; if they have identified the SOMA PLANT, they would have first got the patent  for Soma Rasa, and then only they would have published the article; in short they are not scholars; frauds with ulterior motives)

 

xxx

 

Tantra Texts

Another reader wanted more information on Tantra texts and comments.

 

Dear D. P.

 

Thanks for reading my articles.

 

I did not write much about Tantra.

I have written two articles where I have mentioned Vamacharam (Tantra)

 

There are more on the same subject:
1.Is your Husband a Leftist or a Rightist?

Research paper written by London Swaminathan
Research article No.1396; Dated 7th November 2014.

 

2.Hindu Mudras in Egyptian and Sumerian Statues

7 October 2012

3.The Wonders of Sound (Post No.3568)

23 January 2017

 

4.The Secret of Sri Yantra (Post No.3571)

24 January 2017

5.Alexey Pavlovich Kulaichev on the Secrets of Sri Yantra (Post No.3637)

15 February 2017

 

Keep Reading.

I will write more about it soon.

Dated 30 March 2017

 

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Human Sacrifice (Nara Bali)

 

Hello Swami

 

I am an anthropologist from Rome, my name is xyz, and i am very interested about traditional Indian rituals, as the:

 

Human Sacrifice (Nara Bali) in India 

 

Do you have more infos about it? or someone to contact for?

 

cheers and thank you for helping me

 

L………………………. April 1 2017

 

My Reply

 

Dear L………………….

 

Thanks for reading my blog.

 

So far I have written four articles in my blog.

I have published the same in Tamil and English.
Nothing more to add at the moment:

Following are my articles:

1.Human Sacrifice in Indus Valley and Egypt

Posted on 31 October 2012

2.Human Sacrifice (Nara Bali) in India (Post No.3244); posted on 12 October 2016 

3.Human Sacrifice practised by the Kondhs! (Post No3225); 7 October 2016

 4.Blood Thirsty Dravidians’! (Post No.3265); posted on 18 October 2016

 

Swami

 

 

xxxxx

 

100,000 Hindu Temples

 

My name is P. I am PhD student in Computer Science and enthusiast of Hindu Temples.

 

I am looking forward to creating an ambitious list of all temples in India as part of my research. I came across your blog titled ‘108,000 temples inn India’. I was curious to know how you arrived at this figure and other figures like 34,000 in Tamil nadu and 43,000 in Kerala. Any help and information will help my research greatly.
Thanks in advance,

Miss P.

 

Dear Miss P…………….

 

The lists are with the governments of the respective states. If you write to them they MAY provide you Or else you have to go to thousands of temple sites like mandirnet, templenet and gather all the details. It is a hard work. Someone has to do it. Every temple has got its own website.

 

Good Luck.

swami

 

I am answering more questions; I will publish them separately.

 

–Subham—-

Leave a comment
by Tamil and Vedas on April 23, 2017  •  Permalink
Posted in Religion, Temples & Vahanas
Tagged , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on April 23, 2017

https://tamilandvedas.com/2017/04/23/madurai-temple-tunnel-and-soma-plant-of-vedas-post-no-3844/

Wonderful and Strange Facts in Manu Smrti (Post No.3041)

manusmriti

Written by london swaminathan

Date: 6th    August 2016

Post No. 3041

Time uploaded in London :–17-15

( Thanks for the Pictures)

 

DON’T REBLOG IT AT LEAST FOR A WEEK!  DON’T USE THE PICTURES; THEY ARE COPYRIGHTED BY SOMEONE.

 

(for old articles go to tamilandvedas.com OR swamiindology.blogspot.com)

 

Manu Smrti or Manava Dharma Sastra has 2685 slokas or couplets.

Manu Smrti (MS) is the oldest law book in the world according to the internal evidence (Please see below about Soma Herb and Saraswati River).

There is no book in the world that deals with so many topics as MS.

It is older than the Hammurabi code according to the evidence in it and other scriptures like Bhagavad Gita.

It has got many strange references about women, Saraswati River, Age of man and sale of Soma etc. In this first part I will refer to some slokas with my comments.

 

1.Woman’s Mouth is always Pure:-

A woman’s mouth is always unpolluted, as is a bird that knocks down a fruit; a calf is unpolluted while the milk is flowing and the dog is unpolluted when it catches a wild animal (3-150)

 

2.Man lived for 400 years!

In the Krta Yuga (First of the Four Yugas), people are free from sickness, achieved all their goals, and have a life span of 400 years; but in the ages that began with the age of Treta yuga, their life span grows smaller foot by foot ( in other places he mentions 100 year life span during the modern era).

 

3.Origin of life in Water:-

He (God) thought deeply, for he wished to emit various sorts of creatures from his own body; first he emitted the waters, and then he emitted his semen in them; that became a golden egg, as bright as the sun with his thousand rays; Brahma himself, the grand father of all people, was born in that egg. “The waters are born of man”, so it is said, indeed the waters are the children of the primordial man (1-8 to 10).

 

4.Sumuka mystery

Manu gives a list of kings in which Sumuka is one; there is no mention of Sumuka in our scriptures, but it is in Sumerian king list (Please read my article:Sanskrit words in Sumerian Culture: Sumukan Mystery, posted on 12 May 2014)

manu2

5.Strangest treatment!

Foreigners criticised every Hindu scripture as corrupted and interpolated; they even criticised the purest and oldest scripture Rig Veda as interpolated with Khila (appendix added later) portions. But they maintain dead silence about Manu Smrti. They never talk about any interpolations, because they want to use all the interpolations as originals and bash them as hard as possible. It is the strangest fact.

My comments:

Manu Smrti has many interpolations (I will call them ‘udating’) which were added during the Brahmin rule of Sunga Vamsa around Second century BCE. Harsh slokas about Shudras were added during this period. What is the proof for interpolations? The proof comes in the form of contradictions in the book. It advocates marrying any woman if she is good, getting education from the lowest class, praising women sky-high which is not seen in any book until today. But in some other places we have contradictory statements.

In several places Manu is used in third person:- Manu said….. This shows it was compiled by someone at a later date.

 

 

6.Manu’s Age 1500 or 5000 BCE!

Lord Krishna mentioned Manu in fourth chapter of Bhagavad Gita. He says he was the predecessor of Ikshvaku (Sugarcane King); please read my articles about Manu and Sugarcane:-

Mystery of Manu: Rig Veda Mystery No.8, posted on 19 January 2015

The Sugarcane Mystery: Indus Valley and Ikshvaku Dynasty, posted on 19 November 2011

 

The internal evidence in Manu Smrti is amazing:-

The Saraswati River is mentioned by him in at least three places:-8-105, 2-17, 11-78

He says a person who killed a Brahmin may eat food fit for the oblation and walk the length of the Sarasvati river; earlier he mentioned a walk for 1000 miles reciting the Vedas to get rid of the sin.

My comments:

This means Manu lived in the period when Sarasvati river was running for 1000s of miles. Even the Mahabharata and Brahmana literature mentioned the dried Sarasvati river. That means Manu lived before the Mahabharata period. DR Mankad dated him around 5700 BCE.

 

7.Sale of Soma!

Soma plant was very rare even during late Vedic age. They were talking about alternates to Soma. Manu mentioned about Soma sale and forbidden sale etc. That means he lived in the early Vedic age.

All the dates given by western scholars are ridiculous. It is like giving a date of latest amendment to Indian constitution as the original date of the constitution. All Hindu Puranas, Smrtis and Scriptures were subjected to constant updating.

Soma plant and Soma sacrifices were mentioned in several places:-

3-87, 211, 257

4-26, 52

9-129, 11-7 to 12, 255

Sale of Soma – 3-158, 180, 10-80

 

To be continued………..

 

—Subham–

 

Leave a comment
by Tamil and Vedas on August 6, 2016  •  Permalink
Posted in Miracles, Religion, Uncategorized, Women
Tagged , , , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on August 6, 2016

https://tamilandvedas.com/2016/08/06/wonderful-and-strange-facts-in-manu-smrti-post-no-3041/

Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant

Confusion about Vedic Soma Plant

Soma  was the famous plant used by the Vedic priests to make juice for the fire sacrifice. The whole of Ninth Mandala of Rig Veda (RV) is devoted to its praise. We have more references in other Mandalas too. The seers described Soma as the King of Herbs. They attributed divinity to it.

 

Lord Krishna in Bhagavad Gita praised Soma Juice. Two thousands year old Sangam Tamil Literature praised Soma Juice. Ninth century Tamil Copper plates praised Soma Juice. But foreign scholars sowed the seeds of doubts in the Indian minds. They dubbed it as hallucinative or psychotropic drug. They were very happy to dub the Vedic seers as drug addicts and drunkards. Indian Ph.D walas felt happier when they found some stuff to grind in their Mill of Falsehood. They wanted to get their Ph.D.s by hook or crook. Now, who should we believe?

 

Have we to believe Shankara and Sayana who purified them by drinking Go Mutra (cow’s urine) on the day of their baptism? Or Have we to believe pork and beef eaters who drank wine on the day of their baptism and use whisky and brandy after their meals every day as a routine? Have we to believe a set of seers who do not know what a drug is, what alcohol is or we have to follow whose generations were floating and swimming in alcoholic drinks and piping tobacco and opium polluting the earth?

Picture of Sarcostemma

Tamils praise for Somarasam

Ninth Century Copper Plates of Pandya King Paranthaka Veera Narayanan praised Kataka Somyaji of Somasikurichi village as one who drank Soma juice and purified himself. The impression that the Tamil and Sanskrit literature left in the minds of Hindus is Soma juice is a purifier; purifier of the mind.

‘’Somapana manosudhdha Kataka Somayaji’’

The other name of Soma is Pavamana meaning of which is that which flows, that which purifies.

Avvaiyar, the grand old lady of Tamil literature, praised a Choza king on the day of successful completion of Rajasuya Yagna by the great Choza king Rajasuyam vetta Peru Narkilli (Reference: Pura Nanuru verse 367). Not only she praised the Cholza king, but also was extremely happy to see the three great Tamil kingdoms united under one banner. She saw the great Pandya and Chera kings along with the Choza king and greeted them to live longer like this. Tamils were a fighting race. They killed one another just to show heroism. But the poetess did not like war mongering kings. Rajasuyam is called Rajasuyam because the king/Raja presses the King of the Plants- Soma and drinks it. So Tamils used Soma rasam (Juice) 2000 years ago.

 

Krishna’s View on Soma plant

Krishna gave qualified support for Soma drinking. It won’t take you to your final goal of Mukti, but gives the joy of Indra Loka, says Krishna.

In Bhagavad Gita (9-20), he says,

‘Trividya mam somapah putapap……….’

Meaning : the knowers of the three Vedas who drink the Soma juice are cleansed of sin, worshipping Me with sacrifices, pray for the way to heaven they reach the holy world of Indra and enjoy the heavenly pleasures of the gods.

Sri Suktam also (verse 23) also glorified Soma Juice. ‘Let Indra drink Soma juice. Let the Devas who enjoyed drinking Soma juice give me enough wealth to do more Soma Yagas. It links Soma juice with Garuda, the eagle.

Soma is mythically reported to be brought by an eagle to the Vedic people, and even to their gods, from its place of origin:

Eagle/ Garuda reference: RV- I-80:2; 93-6; RV. III 43-7; IV 18-13, 26-4/7, 27-3/4; V-45-9; VI-20-6; VIIII-82-9; 100-8; IX 68-6, 77-2, 86-24, 87-6;X-11-4; 99-8;144-4/5.

The guardians of Soma tried to attack eagle and it escaped, according to Rig Veda(RV). Gandharvas also linked with the Soma plant in many verses. Mandalas of Kasyapa, Angirases and Bhrgus have more verses on Soma than others.

The Rig Veda and Avesta (Yasna Ceremony) agree on many points regarding Soma (Haoma plant).

Foreign scholars kept quiet about this Eagle-Soma link. They couldn’t explain it because it went against their views. Why should an eagle bring a plant? Eagle may even be a tribe’s name or their totem symbol.

Foreign scholars couldn’t explain another point as well. If it is an intoxicating drink why should they waste it by pouring it in to fire instead of fully consuming it? They did not explain why in the whole world only priests were drinking it? The herb sellers must have also used it and danced if it is an intoxicating drink.

Identification Confusion

Mr.Lassen identified it with Sarcostemma viminale or brevistigma, Mr Roth with Sarcostemma acidum, Mr George Watt with Afgan grape, Mr.Rice with sugarcane, Mr.Max Muller with a species of hop. Mr.Hillebrandt said that it was unidentifiable.

What we know from the Vedic literature is the colour of the shoots was brown, it grew on Mujavant mountain. it was purchased from the Gandharvas or hill tribes. They soaked it in water and pressed it for juice and filtered it. The Vedic seers mixed it with milk and drank it. Since it was difficult to get, they used alternate plants. If it was really an intoxicating one, they would have found many alternates. None of the ones we knew of intoxicating.

Prof.N.A.Quazilbash and Dr C.G.Kashikar Identified  Soma with Ephedra. If it is really Ephedra, lots of other plants with the chemical  Ephedrine are available even today and they would have used them as alternates. This plant is known as Uma in certain parts of the world and that is the basis for this identification!

R. Gordon Wasson identified Soma with a mushroom known as Amanita muscaria (Fly Agaric) used in Siberian Shamanism.

Whenever foreign scholars got stuck up and could not give reasonable explanation they simply hid behind something else. If they couldn’t find anything to support their theories they simply dubbed them as outside the Vedic tribes. Vedic deity Tvastr was linked with the far away areas of soma plant. Hillebrandt escaped by saying Tvastr came from outside the Vedic Tribes.

 Sura and Soma

Hieratic Soma is eulogised by Bramana literature

Alcoholic Sura is always denounced.

Satapata Brahmana remarks,” Soma is truth, prosperity and light; sura is untruth, misery or vice and darkness ( S.B. 5-1-2-1-10)

“satyam sri jyotih somah, anrtam, papma tamah sura”.

A Brahmana is enjoined not to drink Sura (wine) because it is unpropitious for him (S.B.12-8-1-5)

By drinking wine one becomes violent in temper (SB 12-7-3-20)

Tatriya Brahmana compares Soma with men and Sura with women.

Latest interpretation on Indus seals identifies the Stand in front of animals in the seals as soma juice filter.

Books for further reading: Identification of Soma by Dr.C.G Kashikar,Pune, 1990; The Rig Veda- A Historical Analysis—Shrikant G.Talageri, New Delhi, 2000; Life in Brahmana Period.

Pictures are taken from Wikipedia and other sites.Thanks.

Contact swami_48@yahoo.com

 

1 Comment
by Tamil and Vedas on May 5, 2013  •  Permalink
Posted in Nature, Religion
Tagged , , , ,

Posted by Tamil and Vedas on May 5, 2013

https://tamilandvedas.com/2013/05/05/confusion-about-vedic-soma-plant/