A New Story- Yajur Veda in Zend Avesta— Part 2 (Post .10,634)


Post No. 10,634

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Here is the story from the Aitareya Brahmana,

“The Devas and Asuras waged war in these worlds,

The Asuras made these worlds fortified places (Puras, Polis in Greek) and made them as strong and impregnable as possible; they made the earth of iron, the air of silver, and the sky of gold. Thus they transformed these worlds into fortified places. .

The Devas said, these Asuras have made these worlds fortified places; let us build other worlds in opposition to these. They then made out of her/earth a seat, out of the air a fire hearth, and out of the sky two repositories for sacrificial food. (These are called Havirdhana).

The Devas said, let us bring the ‘Upasads’. By means of a siege/upasada one may conquer a large town. When they performed the first Upasad, they drove the Asuras from this world. When they performed the second, they drove them out from the air and when they performed the third, they drove them out from the sky. Thus they drove them out from these worlds.


What is Upasad?

Upasad is a particular ceremony which is to take place immediately after the great ‘Pravargya’ ceremony, during which the priests produce for the sacrifice (Yajamana) a golden celestial body , with which alone he is permitted by the gods to enter heaven. When in this way the sacrificer is born anew he is to receive the nourishment appropriate for an infant’s body, and this is milk. The chief part of the Upasad ceremony is, that one of the priests, the ‘Adhvaryu’, presents milk to him in a large wooden spoon, which he must drink. Formerly it had to be drunk from the cow which was to be milked by the Adhvaryu. But this custom has now fallen into disuse.

(We may compare it to a miracle in the Pathrrup Pathu – Ten Decads- in 2000 year old Sangam Tamil Literature where the poet disappeared after the Tenth Yaga. The poet earlier demanded the Chera king that he may be sent to heaven in physical body. When the Tamil king asked him to suggest the way forward, the poet asked the Tamil king to perform Ten Yagas for him. Chera king obeyed and at the tenth sacrifice both the Tamil poet and his wife went to heaven in physical body. Visvamitra , earlier tried the trick with the king Trisankhu, but failed miserably for lack of penance. But Trisankhu became Southern Stars- now in the flags of Australia, New Zealand and  few other countries)

Martin Haug continues the story,

“The Asuras, thus driven out of these worlds, repaired to the Ritus/ seasons. The Devas said, let us perform Upasad. The Upasads being three, they performed each twice; that makes six in all, corresponding with the six seasons. Then they drove the Asuras out from the Ritus/ seasons.

(In European countries the seasons are four; but in the Rig Veda and Tamil Sangam literature the seasons are six, typical Hindu and Indian, a severe blow to Max Muller gang and Marxist gang)

The Asuras now repaired to the months. The Devas made twelve Upasads, and drove them out from the months. After having been defeated here also , they repaired to the half months. The Devas performed 24 Upasads and drove the Asuras out of half months . After having been defeated again, the Asuras repaired to the day and night. The Devas performed Upasads and drove them out.

Therefore the first Upasad ceremony is to be performed in the first part of the day and the other in the second part of the day. The sacrificer leaves thus only so much space to the enemy as exists between the conjunction of day and night, that is the time of twilight in the morning and evening.

(Hindus believe that time- twilight time- should be allocated to worship of gods and so they perform Sandhya Vandana 3 times everyday-  ealrly morning, mid day and early evening.)


Asura Gayatri

Thus the Asuras of the Hindu literature are being the supreme beings of the Parsis, Ahura Mazda with his arch angels, is according to these statements, hardly to be doubted. But there exists, perhaps, a still more convincing proof. Among the metres, used in the Yajur Veda , we find seven such which are marked by the epithet ‘Asuri’ such as Gayatri Asuri, Usnih Asuri, Pankti Asuri. These Asura metres, which are foreign to the whole Rigveda, are actually found in the Gatha literature in the Zend Avesta, which professedly exhibits the doctrine of Ahura religion.

The Gayatri Asuri consists of 15 syllables which metre we discover in the gatha Ahunavaiti, if we bear in the mind that the number of 16 syllables, of which it generally consists, is often reduced to 15. Compare, for instance, Yas.31-6 and the first two lines of 31-4.

The Usnih Asuri, consisting of 14 syllables, is completely extant in the Gatha Vohu- khshathra ( Yas literature) , each of which comprises 14 syllables.

The Pankti Asuri consists of 11 syllables, just as many as we found in the Gathas Ushtavaiti and Spenta- mainyu.

This coincidence can certainly not be merely accidental, but shows clearly, that the old Gatha literature of the Zend Avesta was well known to the Rishis who compiled the Yajur Veda.

Of great importance, for showing the original close relationship between the Hindu and Parsi religions, is the fact several of the Hindu gods are actually mentioned by name in the Zend Avesta, some as demons and, others as angels.

I will show them in another article.


My comments

Asuras in Zend Avesta are good and Devas are bad is not new to Hindu religion. Whenever a new prophet forms a new religion or sect, he decried the old gods and practices. The oldest schism in Vedic society was seen in the creation of the Shukla and Krishna Yajur Vedas. In the Vedic period we saw Indra and Agni were at the top position. Later Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva occupied top positions. During the times of Adi Shankara there were over 90 sects in Hinduism. Shankaracharya wiped out all the unwanted bad practices and made ‘six- god worship’ Shanmatha.

Later several reformers like Dayananda of Arya Samaj established a new sect. Very recently we saw Hare Krishna movement and its founder Bhakti Vedanta Prabhupada showed Lord Shiva as Demi god.

In Egypt, King Eka Nathan= One God, Akhnaton introduced Monotheism and revolted against the domination of the priests. This was due to Hindu influence.

Tamil Alvars and Nayanmars projected either Vishnu or Siva as the greatest god. Saints like Vallalar and Narayana guru created new practices and new temples.

In recent times Guru Nanak formed Sikh religion to control the atrocities committed by Muslim rulers.

Muslims called non Muslims as kafirs and Christians called non Christian s as pagan. Both the religions split into several sects

So schism is seen in every religion including Buddhism and Jainism. It is no wonder it happened in the oldest and longest religion.

When did happen in Hinduism during Vedic period is undecided. There are many theories. When Max Muller said Parsis migrated from India into Iran, Martin Haug said it happened the other way around. It is always debatable. No one knew even the date of the Vedas. It ranged from 6000 BCE to 1500 BCE!

Xx Subham xxx

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Why did I write Natyasastra?- Bharata Muni Story (Post No.9882)


Post No. 9882

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Atreya asked Bharata the reason for writing Natya sastra.

Bharata said,

Natyaveda was created by Brahma. Long long ago people of this world, goaded by greed and avarice, and jealousy and anger took to uncivilised ways of life.(Literally Gramya = vulgar).

The world was then inhabited by Gods, Demons, Yakshas Rakshasas, Nagas and Gandharvas . Various lords were ruling. At that time gods led by Mahendra approached Brahma and requested him to give them something which would not only teach them but be pleasing both to eyes and ears. Since Sudras are not allowed to listen to Vedas why not create a fifth Veda which would be accessible to all varnas/ castes

Brahma agreed. He dismissed the petitioners and meditated in solitude. Then he took

words from the Rigveda,

music from Sama veda,

movements and make up from Yajur veda and

emotional acting from the Atharvanaveda.

Then he called Indra and others and said,

Here is the Natyaveda. Let the Suras/Devas practise it. It requires persons who are smart, intelligent, observant and self controlled.

Indra pondered and then said that the Suras were unable to practise it since they did not have all the qualifications. Sages are self controlled and grasped with the Vedic knowledge. Then Brahma entrusted it to me.

Brahma said to me

You have a large number of sons and students and so you practise it. So I practised it with my sons and trained them in words, emotions and movements:_



Arabhati and


When I informed Brahma what I have done, he promised me to give all the materials required. I myself had seen Siva dancing with movements, gestures and emotions. When I said females were good to perform with grace, he created Apasaras. He created Narada and Gandharva to sing. He provided Swati and his disciples to play on instruments

When I reported to him all the practices were done, rehearsals over, he asked me to perform the first show in the Flag festival of Indra.

I commenced the performance with an interesting

Nandi= benedictory singing of eight sentences from the Vedas. When it was staged with fights and roars resulting in the defeat of the demons by devas Brahma and other gods were so pleased with the performance that they showered presents on the actors:-

Indra gave the flagpole ,

Brahma a crooked stick,

Varuna a gourd

Surya an umbrella

Siva a Siddhi

Vayu a fan

Vishnu a throne,

Kubera a crown

Sarasvati acoustics

And others — Yakshas, Rakshasas and Nagas suitable ones.

After the first show, defeated demons became angry and caused the director to become unconscious on the stage. Indra used his flagpole to thrash all the demons. It crushed —- jarjara— all the demons. Then they all wished that ‘jarjara’ be there for ever to protect them . Indra said So be it.


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Story of Two Ants in Ramayana (Post No.9739)


Post No. 9739

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There is an interesting story in Ramayana about two ants. Kamban, the great author , who rendered Valmiki Ramayana in Tamil, hints at it in the Ayodhya Kanda/ canto. Kamban puts the words Erumbin Kathaiyal / ‘the lady of two ants story’ in the mouth of lamenting King Dasaratha. He was the one who gave two boons to Kaikeyi, one of his three queens. Kaikeyi, using the boons sent Rama to forest and got the kingship for her own son Bharat.

In this context Dasaratha was complaining about Kaikeyi to his chief queen Kausalya. The words Erumbin Kathaiyal/ Llady of Ants brings out the background of Kaikeyi. Strangely Hindu epics dont give the birth names of Queens. They are always named after their countries or cities,

Gandhari from Kandahar/ Gandhara of Afghanistan

Kunti from the kingdom of Kunti

Kaikeyi from Kekaya kingdom in Afghanistan /Iran border

Kausalya is from Koshala

Mythili  is from the city of Mithila and so on.

Kaikeyi is from the country of Kekaya, where her father Asvapati was ruling. It happened in the life of Asvapati . One day while he was in bed with his beloved queen, he laughed wildly. The queen got annoyed and became suspicious. She asked her husband Asvapati what made him laugh at the dead of night in the bed. She added further that he was mocking at her. Asvapati pacified her and told that he listened to the talk of two ants  under his bed and burst into laughter about their conversation.

One in a billion gets the power of knowing the language of animals, Hindus believe. In Tamil Periya Purana, we know that Kazatrarivar and Aanayanar knew the language of the animals. So do the great Hindu emperor Vikramaditya.

When Asvapati explained it to his wife, the queen, she was not ready to believe him and so she insisted that he must disclose the joke that the ants exchanged. Asvapati told her that the seer who taught him the language told him that he should never disclose it to anyone. Violating the code would result in his death. Even after this, she insisted that he gives the secret conversation of two ants under the bed. He asked her for time so that he could consult the saint who gave him the power.

When he consulted him, he told Asvapati to banish the queen and that was what Asvapati did.

On the background of this old anecdote, Dasaratha condemned Kaikeyi with the words Ant Story Lady. What he meant was hereditary was more powerful than environment. Her genetics worked more than the acceptable law. According to law, the eldest , in this case Rama, should become king. Moreover she knew that Rama’s exile will shorten the life of Dasaratha , but she didn’t care like Asvapati’s wife, who was the mother of Kaikeyi.

Here we come across a scientific fact in genetics which is known to our forefathers. Another fact that animal languages are understood by humans. In fact Dirgatamas, the blind poet of the oldest book in the world the Rigveda,reveals that there are four levels of sound and humans understand only the fourth level. It is in R V 1-164. So, scientists in future may find one day what Hindus knew thousands of years before our time.

Xxx Subham xxxx

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Isavasyam Idam Sarvam Story (Post No.4752)

Date: 16 FEBRUARY 2018


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Post No. 4752


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There is a famous Upanishadic couplet saying that everything is controlled and owned by God. One should not be greedy to take other’s property.


There is a story to illustrate this point. There was a king who had some ego problem. He gave lot of gifts to the poets and bards and expected everyone to praise him as the Anna Data (Giver of Food). Once he called two of his beneficiaries and asked them who gave them money and everything. One of them was a sycophant and replied immediately,

Oh, My Lord, You are the one who helped me and without you people would have died of hunger.

The other person, who is a great scholar said, everything is given by God. Isavasyam Idam sarvam.


The king did not like this answer. He wanted to hear the praise of every one. But he did not dare to say it in public. The king wanted to teach him a lesson. He sent them home.


Later the king filled the inside of a big pumpkin  with costly gems and sent it to the person who praised the king. The scholar who praised god instead of the King was given two small coins. They were not of big price.


The person who received the pumpkin did not know what was inside and so he decided to sell the pumpkin. He was very dissatisfied with the king. At that time the scholar who got two coins was passing his house. The person with a big pumpkin told the scholar to take the pumpkin. He readily agreed and gave his two coins to him.


When the scholar went home, opened the pumpkin and found it was full of costly gems. Then he ran to the king and told that he got a treasure from a pumpkin. The person who sold the pumpkin was also there and he told the king that he sold it to him for two coins of lesser denomination.


The king realised his mistake and felt everything in the world was done by God and controlled by God. The king’s vanity was completely cured by this occurrence.

Unassisted by the hand of Providence, human endeavours are fruitless.


He remembered the famous first couplet of Isavasyopanishad:


Isavaasyamidam sarvam yathkinchajagathyaam jagath
Thena thyakthena bhunjeethaah, maa gridhah kasyaswid-dhanam

“All things of this world, the transitory, the evanescent, are enveloped by the Lord who is the real Reality of each. Therefore, they have to be used with reverent renunciation, without covetousness or greed for they belong to the Lord and not to any one person”.




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Date: 10 NOVEMBER 2017


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Post No. 4383

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This is a story about the origin of Aitareya Brahmana.

The Brahmanas are the prose works in the Vedic literature. They deal with the fire sacrifices of the Vedic Hindus. Each Veda has separate Brahmanas. In fact each ‘Shaka’ of the Veda has one Brahmana. One of the oldest Brahmanas is Aitareya Brahmana of Rig Veda.


There is a curious story about the origin of this book. Sayana, the Vedic commentator said this story. There was a sage who had many wives, and one of them was called Itara. She had a son whose name was Mahidasa. The father neglected him and loved the other sons more than Mahidasa, and at a certain sacrifice, he allowed all the other sons to sit on his lap, but refused the honour to Mahidasa.

Thereupon Itara prayed to Goddess of Earth who appeared at once and offered a divine thrown to Mahidasa and seated him on it. The goddess then made him a great scholar. To Mahidasa Aitareya, enlightened by the boon of Earth,there appeared or was revealed. One Brahmana of the Rig  Veda  (of Sakala Saka was called after his name. Itara——-A/Itareya. The aranyaka is also called Aitareya Aranyaka.


(The legend says that Aitareya was the son of Itara; itara means the other woman, probably the woman was not the legal wife of the King and so her son was neglected.)

Aitareya Brahmana is divided into eitght Panchikas (pentads), each of which has five adhyayas and so it contains forty chapters; it deals with the duties of the priests, explanations of Soma, Uktya, Shodasa, Atiratra and other sacrifices including 12 minor sacrifices


How many Brahmana Books are there?


There is one more Brahmana of Rig Veda: Kaushitaki Brahmana.

Satapata Brahmana

Of all the Brahmana books, Satapata Brahmana is the most important one. It belongs to Sukla Yajur Veda. It deals with important fire sacrifices in addition to etymology, grammar and meanings of several other things. The name itself shows that it has hundred (sata) chapters. The Krishna Yajur Veda has Taittiriya Brahmana.  Atharva Veda has Gopata Brahmana.


The Brahmanas shows the oldest stage in the development of Sanskrit prose. It is a most interesting phase in the history of Indian thought. Some of the things are said in a symbolic language and so they appear as silly stories. The seers themselves often say the gods love mysterious language. The astronomical remarks in the Brahmanas show they belong to a period between 2000 BCE and 3000 BCE. Foreigners date them around 1000 BCE. This is wrong because Max Muler gave a rough date believing that a anguage changes every 200 years. This theory is not applied to any other language and proved More over, apart from language, there is huge difference between the Upanishadic stage and Brahmana stage.


–subham —


Jealousy: Wisdom from Indian Villages


Written by London swaminathan

Date : 2 September  2015

Post No. 2118

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None has grown richer by envying

And no one has lost by not envying –Tirukkural 170

Envy destroys one’s wealth and leads one to evil deeds – 168

The Goddess of Good Fortune (Lakshmi) cannot bear the sight of envious people

Whom she will turn over to her elder sister (Alakshmi, Jyeshtadvi) — 167


There were two Brahmins, one is an illiterate and another is a learned. Both of them visited the king in the neighbouring county. The king treated them well and gave them equal respect. He gave them a gold coin every day. But the learned Brahmin was very jealous about the illiterate getting the same respect like him. When the illiterate Brahmin was gone to his room, he told the king, “Oh, King, don’t you know the proverb that says ‘give your daughter knowing the family (Gotra) and give money knowing the person (Paatra)’? Moreover that illiterate Brahmin has got two concubines. I am very learned and yet you give me the same treatment. Then he went home.

Next day both of them came to see the king. Now the king gave three gold coins to the illiterate and only one coin to the learned Brahmin. He became very angry and waited till the other person gone. He told the king, “Even after I explained to him his characterless life and his lack of knowledge in scriptures, you gave him three gold coins and only one gold coin to me. Why are you insulting the learned like this?”

The king replied, “Look, learned Brahmin! I am paying according to the needs, not according to your knowledge. You only told me that he has a larger family. I don’t want him to suffer.”

The Brahmin went home confused!