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“THE INDIA WE HAVE LOST” , EDITOR PARAMESH CHOUDHURY, NEW DELHI, 1997 IS A VALUABLE BOOK WITH LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT INDIA’S FOREIGN ADVENTURES 5000 YEARS AGO. HE IS QUOTING ALL FROM EARLY WRITERS.
Two Seals (2800 BCE) found in Ur and Kish of Mesopotamia (IRAQ) are particularly of Mohenjo-Daro type. 16 seals have been found in Ur and 14 in Kish and other places, 30 seals in all.
Besides these, there are also other indications of intercourse between India and Mesopotamia: broken portions of earthen jars, toilets sets, horns on the head of human figures, trefoil decoration on cloth, beads, covers of jars etc
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Sumerian in Rig Veda- URU , KISH
The following verses are found in the Rig Veda (RV):-
1. NE’ER doth the man repent, who, seeking profit, bringeth his gift to the far-striding Visnu.
He who adoreth him with all his spirit winneth himself so great a benefactor.
2. Thou, Visnu, constant in thy courses, gavest good-will to all men, and a hymn that lasteth,
That thou mightst move us to abundant comfort of very splendid wealth with store of horses.
3. Three times strode forth this God in all his grandeur over this earth bright with a hundred splendours.
Foremost be Visnu, stronger than the strongest: for glorious is his name who lives for ever.
4. Over this earth with mighty step strode Visnu, ready to give it for a home to Manu.
In him the humble people trust for safety: he, nobly born, hath made them spacious dwellings.
(URU+KISH= URUKSHITI-SPACIOUS DWELLINGS)
5. To-day I laud this name, O gipivista, I, skilled in rules, the name of thee the Noble.
Yea, I the poor and weak praise thee the Mighty who dwellest in the realm beyond this region.
6. What was there to be blamed in thee, O Visnu, when thou declaredst, I am Sipivista?
Hide not this form from us, nor keep it secret, since thou didst wear another shape in battle.
7. O Visnu, unto thee my lips cry Vasat! Let this mine offering, Sipivista, please thee.
May these my songs of eulogy exalt thee. Preserve us evermore, ye Gods, with blessings.
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TAMIL LITERATURE
In Tamil literature we have Uru, Urukezu used in several places and Uru means in Tamil—
Beauty – from Sanskrit Rupa (Rupa is a common name for girls from Kanyakumari to Kashmir)
Statue/figure/idol – from Sanskrit Rupa
Disease, Musical piece, Boat/ship and Big/long/Spacious
Surprisingly Sayana translated URU as ‘spacious’ as in Tamil!
(Uru Kesa= Beautiful hair in Maori according to A Kalyanaraman of Aryatarangini)
But the actual meaning is Uru and Kish are two place names where from different kings ruled. It is confirmed as place names in other RV verses:-
“Oh, Soma flow for Indra , Varuna and Vayu. Let our wealth remain intact. Let the Devas assemble in Urukshiti hearing the sound of your sacrifice “(9-84-1)
“Oh Fire , blaze in your glory and burn the Rakshasas in the houses in Uru” (RV 10-118-8)
“The dwellers of Uru worshipped you who are the most worshipful with hymns of praise” (10-118-9)
The names Ur and Kish in ancient Mesopotamia (Iraq) are clearly the corruptions of the word URU-KSHITI
Kshiti is colloquially pronounced as Kish
Uru is used in other places in Mesopotamia as Uru, Uruk, Urkashade etc.
Even modern names of ancient places of India are corrupted, some beyond recognition.
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Kishkinda in Patanjali
All Indians know about Kishkinda of Hanuman and Anjaneya of Ramayana. Scholars have identified this place with Hampi in modern Karnataka state of India.
But Patanjali mentioned another Kishkinda 2300 years ago.
Sudras outside Aryavarta lived in Kishkinda-Gabdikam, Saka- Yavanam, and Saurya- Krauncham.
All these places are outside present India.
So, Kish people might have gone to Sumeria. Sumerians clearly say that they came from East and from a mountainous area. All Sumerian scholars repeated this but identified the East and Mountainous area with different places. My research shows that they went from Himalayan area. For the same reason Valmiki also named Kishkinda for the rocky areas of South India in Ramayana.
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This is confirmed by other evidence:
“The Indus Script and the Rig Veda” by Egbert Richter Ushanas (New Delhi, 1997) gives detailed comparison of Sumerian seals and Indus seals. He interpreted all the seals on the basis of Rig Veda .
A beautiful summary is available from Aryatarangini of A Kalyanaraman (Asia Publishing House, 1969)
Here is the gist in bullet points…………..
NOTE II TO CHAPTER III
VISHNU IN MESOPOTAMIA
In the paper submitted to the All India Oriental Conference in 1964, Shri BK Chattopadhyaya makes the following points-
1.Apropos of the Indus Valley seals (dated circa 2500 BCE) found at Ur and Kish in Mesopotamia, there is mention of a place valled Uru-Kshiti, in Rig Veda 7-100-4 as below:
2.Vishnu traversed the world , in order to give lands to his worshippers! Those who worshipped him got a fixed abode . He created Uru- Kshiti
In another verse in RV 10-84-1
Oh Soma, flow for Indra, Varuna and Vayu; Let Gods assemble at Uru-Kshiti, hearing the recitation of your mantras!
Further in RV 10-118-8 occur these significant paasages-
Oh, Agni, blaze in the houses of Uru and destroy the Rakshasas; the dwellers of Uru kindled you (Agni) with hymns.
Finally in RV 8-68-12/13 the word Uru occurs in a context which suggests that it is a name of a place and not the equivalent of ‘great’ or ‘much’ as interpreted by Sayana (died in 1387 CE) .
Dr Marshall believed that Indus seals were carried to Ur and Kish by people hailing from India and settling in Mesopotamia .
Mr Chattopadhya holds that the first invasion of Sumeria by the Hindus took place in 3500 BCE.
Rudra and Shiva are not two different deities but one and the same as we find in Yajur Veda and the Indus valley people worshipped Shiva and Sakti. The religion of Mohenjo-Daro must have been Vedic, concludes B K Chattopadhyaya.
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Sayana was wrong
Urukshaya is translated as BIG HOUSE IS NOT HAPPY by Sayana who lived 600 years ago. He tried to interpret Vedas which came about in 4500 BCE. So he couldn’t have understood it fully.
From the statement that Vishnu gave Urukshit to his followers which has been explained by Sayana to mean that Vishnu took it from the Asuras and gave it to the Devas and for the fact that Indian seals of 2800 BCE have been found in Uru and Kish it is clear that the Vedic Hindus established a colony in Mesopotamia in that early date. Sumerian literature also say that they came from the East, from a mountainous area and settled in the ‘plains’.
Later Hittites (corruption of Kshatrias; even today Kshatrias call themselves Khatti in North India) and Kaassites form Kasi/Varanasi also settled there from 1900 BCE.
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Uru in other RV verses
Uru -kaksa in 6-45-3 = dwelling on the Ganges or name of a person
Uru- ksaya in 10-118-8/9
According to Ludwig translation of the RV,
A family of singers and worshippers of Agni. They are knows as Uru ksayas.
Tamil Uzavu= ploughing is in other Verses
Urvara denotes a piece of ploughland . it occurs from first mandala to tenth mandala of RV, in all ten books! In Tamil it is Uzavu (cultivation) uzavaaram- cultivated land;
Uzu – plough. English word Plough came from this Ur/Uzu/
R =L; P=U
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My Evidence
My research shows that Ur and Kish Kings have Sanskrit names:
Kish
Enmebaragesi – Kesi suffix is very common India ; even Maoris of New Zealand had Uru kesi as a name. we have Neelakesi , Rishikesi etc. he ruled kish in 2650 BCE
Agga is the next king we know of. It is Aja whom we find in Raghuvamsam of Kalidasa and puranas.
Ur nanshe ruled in 2500 BCE
Ur in Sumerian means dog as well. But here it may be his town – Ur
Tamil poets are called with their town names in Sangam literature.
Then we have Akul – shiva’s name followed by 5 names with Natum . it may be Nathan like my name swami Nathan.
Kings of Ur
First king is
Ur Nammu – 2112 BCE
Shulgi 2094 BCE
Then we have three Sanskrit names
Sin is Chandra / moon in Sumerian ; I read it as sena ; Mahabharata has many sena names
We have
Ramachandra
Kaushik Chandra and many more chanders
In Sumer we have
Amar sin – 2046 BCE
Shu sin – 2037 BCE
Ibbi sin – 2026 BCE
I gave only the kings who ruled 4000 years ago.
So there is no doubt that they were Hindus who went there and settled and ruled. Later Mitannian kings have very pure Sanskrit names from 1400 BCE.
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So far as archaeological evidence is concerned , a piece of Indian teak found in the ruins of Ur of the Chaldess at Al Muqayyar (Sayce, Hibbert Lectures, 1887, pp 18, 136-137 was the first indication of a commercial contact between India and Sumer.
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A .V. Pandya identified the Asuras in Rig Veda with Assyrians in the Middle East in his article ‘Some Ancient Cities of Iraq in Early Indian Literature’ (Ballabh Vidhyamandir Research Bulletin, Vol.I, Issue I, 1957).
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