Aryan and Dravidian Languages have a common ancestry (Post.9435)


Post No. 9435

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R Krishna, Secunderabad

July 2,1978, Organiser Weekly

I read with interest the review of the book

Dravid Maharashtra in the Organiser on June 11.

Having lived all my life in Madras and noted the amazing development there of theories about language and race I should like to draw attention to some interesting things myself! I am not ashamed of referring to mythology since that is what most people do anyway.

1.Dravida was one of Sri Krishna’s sons. Please refer to Monier William’s dictionary. 2.Dramila was the name of a Danava father of Kamsa. Kamsa himself

My comments

I have already written umpteen articles on this issue

1.I have shown 56 countries of Puranic India lists Tamil countries away from Dravida country (See Tamil Encyclopaedia of Singaravelau Mudaliyar , year 1899 (Abhidana Chinatamani)

2.Ihave shown the meaning of Panch Dravida (  5 types of Brahmins).

3.I have also shown Dravid is a suffix for Brahmins such as Cricketeer Dravid; it meant a Brahmin from South India

4. Names like Dravidacharya, Dravida Vedam all belong to Brahmins or devotional literature.

5.There is one Dravida Queen in 1300 BCE. But there the word Dravida is of doubtful origin.

6.But Puranas clearly say that the First Avatara Matya (Fish) is from South India.

tags- common ancestry, Tamil and Sanskrit, Aryan, Dravidian



Post No. 8803

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For every language speaker another language is unsweet, harsh, uncultured and uncivilized.

Vedic Hindus called the Chinese and Mongoloid people as ‘snub nosed’, ‘harsh worded’ Dasyus. Foreigners attributed it to Dravidians . But Dravidians were not in that area at all. All the skeletons discovered in Indus/Sarasvati valley have Punjabi Hindu features; none Dravidian.

Tamils called the neighbouring Telugu speakers Vadugan. It has got good and bad connotations. It meant Muttal/ Muta

 in Sanskrit. Telugus called Tamils Aravan. Noisy, boisterous lot. It has also a bad connotation- snake. So each one criticised the other.

Seth Govindadas called Tamil language in Lok Sabha as a noisy language equivalent to putting stones in a tin box and shaking. When Tamil MPs said that there is no literature in Hindi except Thick and Bulky Railway Time Table or Telephone Directory. So each one mocked at others’ languages.

This type of criticism is in every part of the world. Greeks called Turkish with a different word and Turkish used different word for the Greeks. All belittling and mocking words.

Nowadays we don’t even call a Black or Negro. In my Britain they are called a person from Afro-Caribbean community. You should not say Black. If you say Negro, you will lose your post. You will  be sacked.

Though we banned the Tamil word Pariah in Tamil Nadu, (Tamil dalit), all the English newspapers use it every day around the world to mean an ‘untouchable’. Another Tamil word with bad connotation AYYOH (alas) is also added to Oxford dictionary. Tamils must fight with them and remove both the bad words. Otherwise English newspapers will use the word Pariah for ever.

The real meaning of Arya till the Max muller gang and Caldwell gang changed it, it meant a cultured person or a civilised person or  a person equal to Himalayan saint. Kautilya used it for a man with freedom and Dasa for a slave.

Tamil Sangam poets and Devotional poets use it for saints and Lord Shiva.

Even Krishna used it in that sense in Bhagavad Gita . When Arjuna behaved like a coward Krishna did not call his attitude or his behaviour  ‘Un Kshatriya’ or ‘like a Shudra’ or ‘like a Brahman’a or ‘like a Vaisya.’

He asked him where did you get this ‘ANAARYAJUSTAM’ (B.G.2-2)?

Where did you get this ‘un Aryan attitude’?

Arya is used with brahmin, kshatriya and vaisya in Panini’s grammar.


The word  Arya meant ‘a person with courage and courtesy, nobility and straight dealing according to philosopher Dr S Radhakrishnan and others. Arya became Ajja in Prakrit and Ayyer in Tamil.

Sangam age Tamils criticised Yavanas (People from Italy and Greek) as Mlecha and harsh worded (Van Sol Yavanar); they simply copied it from Northern Sanskrit speakers. Pre Sangam age Patanjali also criticised Yavana Greeks


Greeks and Barbarians

When Kalhana used the word Mlecha in Raja Tarangini RS Pandit interpreted them as Greeks

Mlechcha , he says, literally meant the people of indistinct speech. The Greeks similarly used the word Barbarian for those  whose speech they did not understand.

The Arabs when they conquered called the highly civilised Iranians the Ajam, the dumb.

In Raja Tarangini 1-107 and 8-2763 and 2766, Kalhana used the word Mlechchas. In the 8th chapter , actually  they were the allies of Prince Bhoja .

Likewise city people mocked at villagers as uncultured, uncivilised and not mannered . in Tamil also they are called Pattikkaattan, meaning country brute.

Christians called others as Pagans and Muslims called others as Kafirs. Hindus called the entire world as one family (Vasudaiva Kutumbakam)

English always mocked at the French and the Scottish. There are English proverbs against Irish as well.

So you can always call your neighbours idiots and fools, dumb and noisy, short and ugly, but you must remember they have also got another dictionary where you are mocked at.


Were Moses and Jesus ‘Aryans’? (Part 2)

Lion gate at Bogazkoy where 1400 BC inscription with Vedic Gods was discovered


Lion Gate of Bogazkoy, Turkey where 1400 BC inscription with names of Vedic Gods was discovered.


(Please read First part of this article and continue here:London Swaminathan)

1.When white skinned people started reading our Tamil and Sanskrit scriptures and started writing in ENGLISH, that too, with Christian names like John, Hart, William, David, July, Mary, Wendy we thought all of them are ‘’SCHOLARS’’!!!

2.Then came the ‘Ph.D.wallas’ challenging all the old views. Just because they have the big title DOCTOR in front of their names, we thought they are all ‘’SCHOLARS’’!!! (Read below how one ‘scholar’ insulted Kalidasa).


3. But both these groups knew that if they say anything against the established systems and age old beliefs, all of us will join together and smash them. So they first sowed the seeds of division. It is a slow poison that will kill us all in course of time. All of you knew what Lord Macaulay openly said the reason for introducing ENGLISH education in this country (India).

4.First they introduced Aryan Dravidian Race theory. There is no basis for this in Tamil or Sanskrit literature. Slowly they introduced Munda, Tribes and aborigines in to it. They know ‘’Samsaya Atma Vinasyati’’= Doubting Thomasses are destroyed.


5.Then they confused us by giving various dates in Indian History. Rig Veda is dated between 6000 BC and 900 BC by various foreign scholars! Kalidasa is given a date between 2nd century BC and 5th century AD. One so called ‘’scholar’’ even fixed the date of Kalidasa in Gupta period and called Kalidasa a Copy Cat! Kalidasa copied a lot from Tamil poets and Prakrit gath Sapta sati, he said! Another ‘’scholar’’ said Kalidasa copied from Asvagosha! I have proved them wrong in my ten part article on Kalidasa and Tamil literature. Kalidasa became world famous because of his new similes and images and not by COPYING!


6.They told us Tamils came from the Mediterranean area and Aryans came from Central Asia. They linked Tamil with Finnish and Turkish! Turkey is full of Vedic monuments. The oldest inscription with names of Vedic Gods was discovered in Turkey-Syria (Bogazkoi) area dated around 1400 BC. The oldest Sanskrit (Mitanni) names are in Syria-Iraq area. Kanchi Shankaracharya said in one of his lectures, ‘’don’t think we went there to spread our religion. It was there all over the world. That is why we call our religion Sanatan Dharma’’.


7. Slowly, cleverly and cunningly they introduced colour skin to Hindu Gods. They said Tamil Skanda/Murugan is different from Aryan Skanda. Tamil Shiva is different from Aryan Rudra! Those who read Tamil hymns will have a good laugh at those ‘SCHOLARS’, where Murugan and Shiva are red and Vishnu is bluish black. They said all villages Gods are of local origin. But the fact of the matter is all names are in Sanskrit! Read Kanchi Paramacharya’s seven part book ‘Voice of the Divine’’ (Deivathin Kural in Tamil).


8. Slowly and cunningly they introduced the word ‘’Interpolations’’. Whenever and wherever they wanted they said ‘’it is interpolated’’. The ever changing language will have something introduced at any time in History by enthusiasts. Then they will take the latest one and date it as 5th century or ninth century AD where as the original would have belonged to 5th century BC. They did it to all our Puranas and epics.


9. They sowed a seed of doubt about Kaliyuga and challenged all our dates. They projected one Indra in the whole history of Hinduism and attributed everything to him. Indra (king) is a title like Pope, Dalai Lama and Shankaracharya. They made us believe one Indra did all the ‘bad’ things.


10. They take one or two controversial statements from a book they hate and project them as the gist of the book. Manu Dharma Shastra is a typical example. Leaving all the passages where he praised women, they projected him as Anti woman by giving one sloka. They never talk about interpolations in the scriptures of other religions!


Discovery of Mighty Saraswati river proved Aryan Dravidian Race theory wrong.


Egypt,Babylonia,Greece,China & Israel had Kings

11. They said India knew no king before the Nanda Dynasty leaving a gap for 2300 years in Indian history. Puranas and epics give a long list of kings including the kings who ruled INDUS VALLEY. The foreigners said that they are all not reliable where as Egypt, Babylonia, Greek, Chinese and Israel kings were real! Indians are stupid till this day to retain the old History books. They still think they had no kings before Maurya Chandra Gupta or the Nandas!! Rig Veda, Ramayana, Mahabharata and Puranas give a long list of kings.

12. They wrote Tamil culture is different from  ‘’Aryans’’, where as the Sangam literature praises all that is Hindu every 10th line. There is no verse or passage without a Sanskrit word or a Hindu theme. I have read all the 30,000 lines umpteen times. I can quote thousands of references about Veda, Hindu Gods Yaga/fire ceremony, Puja etc.

Tamils did not even have a word for heart. They simply used Sanskrit word Hrudaya ( This gave the English word heart and Tamil word iruthayam). Ancient Tamils never hated Sanskrit. They considered Tamil and Sanskrit as two eyes and their literature say both came from Lord Shiva. Foreigners selected the passages which suited them and hid lot of facts about Tamils. Sanskrit also borrowed Tamil words without any hesitation.


13. They made us believe that Indians were migrants where as our old literature say that Indians went to different parts of the world to spread culture and civilization (e.g 1300 year Hindu rule in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma, Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines and Indonesia). Rishis’ names are all over the world Adriatic (Atri Maharishi) sea, Caspian (Kashyapa maharishi) sea, California (Kapila Aranya)! Read my article Is California- Kapila Aranya?. I have based it on Kanchi Shankaracharya’s talk.

14. Foreigners gave credits for all the discoveries and inventions to Greeks and Babylonians contradictory to the facts in our scriptures. Even when they knew the numerals came from India, Chess came from India, they called it Arabic numerals, Persian game!! Deliberate distortions!


15. When passages of violence are in every scripture in the world, every literature in the world, they projected Vedic hymns as violent where as others as ‘Holy wars’. Look at the wordings!! Words like ‘River of blood ‘are found in all the literature. When they ate nothing but meat, they shed crocodile tears for the ‘’millions of creatures’’ sacrificed in the Yaga fire!! They even interpreted Samudra (Ocean) in Rig Veda as a pond! Durga as ‘Indus forts’!! Shiva also destroyed forts like Indra! Is HE a Dravidian or Aryan?


16. When they first excavated Harappa and Mohanjadaro  on the banks of Indus (Sindhu) river we called it Indus civilization. Now we have excavated over 200 places in Punjab, Haryana, Rajathan, Gujarat and Delhi. This is the largest of the ancient civilizations. We have explored Dwaraka under sea with artefacts dated 3000 BC. Bhaba Atomic Research Institute scientists have proved the existence of mighty river Saraswati that ran 5000 years ago.All these prove our Puranas, Epics and Vedas were right about our ancient beginnings. As long as one believes in Aryan Dravidian division, everything will be misty, confusing and mysterious.


17. On one hand they insulted, degraded and undervalued all that is Indian, but on the other hand they plundered all our artefacts including Kohinoor diamond. The best of our treasures are in London, Paris and Tehran.

18.They divided the languages of the world as they wished and showed Sanskrit as the youngest of the Indo European group. On the contrary, parents of Sanskrit speakers went to different parts of Europe and gave them languages. It is not vice versa (E.g. Zend Avesta  is far down the chronological table.)

19. They confused the Indian intellectuals by wrongly fixing the date for iron and horse. Latest discoveries around the world pushed the date of both back by 5000 to 10000 years. Ayas (Aes in Latin and Pon in Tamil) was used for many

metals including iron.

swaraka under sea


Discovery of Dwaraka under sea proved Aryan Dravidian race theory wrong.


Insult to Dravidians !

20.From the very beginning they misled the world by saying Indus valley was destroyed by the invading Aryans and Dravdians ran for life to the far south and to the hills!!! They projected Dravidians as ‘’cowards’’ and invading Aryans as ‘’Heroes’’. This is because white skinned foreign ‘’scholars’’ identified themselves with Aryans! They misled the world by saying the Indus language was Dravidian in structure sixty years ago and not a single word is deciphered till this day! Most ridiculous thing is that they have never discovered or disclosed ‘’Aryan and Dravidian skeletons’’ till this day. Now we know 1000s of cities and villages became deserted because of geological changes.

21. Our Puranas and Sangam Tamil literature  (see Purananuru Commentary) divided people in to 18 types including Devas, Asuras, Kinnaras, Siddhas, Gandharvas—not  Aryas and Dravidas! Our division was on the basis of their virtues and behaviour, not on skin colour or race.


22. If one believes in Aryan Dravidian race theory, one can’t believe in historical Ramayana and Mahabharata! They wouldn’t fit anywhere in the chronology. Aryan Race Theory created Hitler who killed millions of Hindu Gypsies and European Jews. He claimed himself Pure Aryan and used Hindu Swastika in his flags. Westerners realised that their theory was nonsense and buried it. But Indian idiots still keep this theory alive!

23. They confused us about the Vedas. Some scholars said Adharva Veda was earlier than Rig Veda and it belonged to the Dravidians. Some other scholars said it was later one. But Adharva Veda is in Sanskrit. Other scholars confused the world about Zend Avesta. They said it was written before ‘’Aryans migrated to India’’. But the latest linguistic research shows that Atharva Veda and Zend Avesta belonged to a period than Rig Veda.

24. If you are very intelligent and show the ‘’scholars’’ that Aswamedham, Rajasuyam, Soma Rasam, Fire ceremonies, Swayamvaram, caste system, Eight types of marriage, funeral ceremonies, wedding ceremonies are not the same in Indo European areas ,they will say all these were PROBABLY borrowed from Dravidians or Mundas!!! If you are more intelligent and show the ‘’Scholars’’ that certain customs exist in both the areas—from Himalayas to Kanyakumari—they will say PROBABLY they borrowed it from a common source=Pan Indian! In short, they will escape without giving a genuine answer!


Then, What is the truth? Indians went and civilized the barbaric Europeans. The first thing anyone learns will be the language of the cultured people. Without that no one can communicate. Then they grab certain aspects of the culture. India was more civilized than all parts of Europe according to Greeks. The Greeks started writing at least 800 years after the Vedic people. Another fact is mankind is one. We all had the same roots and so certain ancient beliefs and customs are common to all the people. This is known as Santana Dharma (Please read Kanchi Paramacharya’s lectures in Seven Volumes)

When we look at the development of human mind, thinking etc. we see Indians were far advanced than any race or clan. Even before the world started writing a book, we produced Upanishads with highest philosophy.This is another proof that we educated them. Whether it is composing poetry ,writing grammar, writing sex manual, preparing dictionary, solving mathematical problems, charting the stars, writing books, preparing Index, Yoga, Karate, all types of arts—name anything we were first. Babylonian, Egyptian, Sumerian, Greek and Chinese civilizations are in show cases of museum. Hindu civilization is a living civilization.


To justify what I have said above, I have written and posted already over 570 articles touching various aspects of Indus Valley Civilization and Vedic culture. Please read them to understand and appreciate my views fully.




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